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Hello everyone,
My name is Alex and I am one of the owners of Click2see.xxx, I wanted to stop in and let everyone know about our new site.
I've seen countless threads like these started in the past and watched them crash and burn.
I know that professionalism and straight forward answers and knowing your product is key, so trust you're speaking to someone that actually understands how a business works. Yes, we are new to the adult entertainment industry, however, we do run multiple successful companies in IT and financial industry.
I want to be sure that any question you may have will not go unanswered and will be responded to quickly and efficiently.
We have a great team here and we're eager to get the ball rolling. We've invested a lot of time and money on our site and advertisements.
If any of you are going to be at Sex on the Beach Expo on South Beach in Miami FL this month, we'll be there! So say hello!
As of now we have signed up a few girls (around 10 or so) and we've run the site for the past two days with traffic.
We're getting a ton of unique clicks / visits from around the globe (couple hundred every 20 minutes) so the traffic is building up.
I know most of you are already affiliated with cam sites that are already booming with traffic. However, these sites have TONS of girls and we want to keep our site limited to 100 or so girls. If you work already for a cam site, and feel like you're getting lost in a sea of endless pages of models, check us out.

- We offer a 60/40 pay split (models get 60%)
- Token value is 10-1
- No minimum payout
- Weekly payment
- Multiple payment options
- Flexible hours
- 24/7 tech support
- Ability to block countries or states
- Exclusive limited number of models and high traffic
- Models of the day and other incentives
- Open, group, private chats available
- No limits, sell personal videos or pictures, Skype chats, all allowed
- Fan pages and emails

Requirements (things you already know lol)

- 18+ years of age
- Be friendly, outgoing personality and open minded
- A scanned copy of VALID State ID or Passport
- Have PC with webcam+mic (Can be provided on payment plan)
- Highspeed internet connection
- Ability to work minimum 10-15 hour weeks
- Maintain a Twitter or FB fan page with updates

Again PLEASE let me know if you have ANY questions whatsoever, you can drop us an email
Contact@click2see.xxx or give us a call 855.422.2999 , Ill also be checking this thread periodically throughout the day.
Thanks for your time,
Click2see Team.
 
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If you're going to limit yourself to 100 or so models, will you be picking and choosing certain girls or will it be the first 100 or so that sign up?

Do you accept BBW girls? I see that you group everyone over 73 Kg (161 lbs) into one category and that's fairly limiting.

Is 15-20 hours a week a hard limit? Are there consequences if someone only maintains 8-10 hours a week? What happens if someone doesn't work at all for a week?

Are there chargebacks/refunds for members? Will that money be taken back from the model even if she's provided the service she's been paid to do? What about if someone tips a dollar for her to do something she already said she won't do? Penalties for that?
 
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I'm obviously not a camgirl (or aren't I?...) but I am intrigued about the 100 girl limit. How will that work? Will you stick to that limit? What happens if a model isn't making much money? Will she be replaced by another who might? What happens when you get more members? Not every guy likes the same type of girl, by limiting yourself to 100 girls (many of whom will be offline at any one time), do you feel you might be alienating a decent sized chunk of your market?
 
AllisonWilder said:
If you're going to limit yourself to 100 or so models, will you be picking and choosing certain girls or will it be the first 100 or so that sign up?

Do you accept BBW girls? I see that you group everyone over 73 Kg (161 lbs) into one category and that's fairly limiting.

Is 15-20 hours a week a hard limit? Are there consequences if someone only maintains 8-10 hours a week? What happens if someone doesn't work at all for a week?

Are there chargebacks/refunds for members? Will that money be taken back from the model even if she's provided the service she's been paid to do? What about if someone tips a dollar for her to do something she already said she won't do? Penalties for that?
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Hey thanks for the questions,
We accept all girls, we don't discriminate. And for now the first 100 sign ups are going to be it. From there we'll see if we want to open the registration up again. Essentially we want to have as many USERS though. In regards to the grouping of the models by weight, we are debating weather or not to even use that as part of the grouping, and if we do it will be scaled out differently.
The 15-20 hour weeks are really more a suggestion than a requirement, whatever amount of time you want to work is up to you.
If you don't log on for a week or a month it wont affect anything.
In regards to chargebacks and refunds, our merchant has certain checks and balances in order to detect fraud (obviously) and in the event of a chargeback and investigation will be had to determine if the fraud was real or fake. Chat logs and such also help. If a performer is providing the service, she will not be asked to return tokens.
In the case of someone tipping for something you're not willing to do, it is clearly stated in our terms of service that every user must read, that once a token is tipped to a model, it can no longer be returned, no exceptions.
Hopefully this answers your questions :hello2:
 
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I am also interested in how it would work to staff your site with only 100 models. Are they going to be given shifts so one model will always be online?

I am also curious when you say "Token value is 10-1". Is 10-1 a comparison or a unit of money? Is it ten cents to a dollar or ten cents to one cent?
 
mynameisbob84 said:
I'm obviously not a camgirl (or aren't I?...) but I am intrigued about the 100 girl limit. How will that work? Will you stick to that limit? What happens if a model isn't making much money? Will she be replaced by another who might? What happens when you get more members? Not every guy likes the same type of girl, by limiting yourself to 100 girls (many of whom will be offline at any one time), do you feel you might be alienating a decent sized chunk of your market?
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Our 100 performer limit is something we want to stick to. However, we are considering upsizing a bit more if we do meet that number quickly if there is a large interest. BUT NOT BY MUCH.
If a model isn't making much money then thats ok, ultimately you will tell us if you want to be part of our site, if you're not happy or just simply are better off where you already perform then in that case we can replace this person. Its all up to you.
If we don't hear from you or see you log in at least once a month we will reach out to you and we'll go from there.
I think 100 girls which, only 10-20 max will be online at a time, is more than enough for someone to choose from.
In reality I don't feel like limiting us to 100 performers will alienate us in an industry that has more than enough USERS to go around.
We're not trying to bust the cam world wide open and try to take out the bigger fish, we're just creating a small exclusive site.
It might not make sense at this time, but we have a vision for the site.
I appreciate the questions please keep them coming!
 
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Evvie said:
I am also interested in how it would work to staff your site with only 100 models. Are they going to be given shifts so one model will always be online?

I am also curious when you say "Token value is 10-1". Is 10-1 a comparison or a unit of money? Is it ten cents to a dollar or ten cents to one cent?
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Sorry, it is meant as .10cents per token.
Yes, we're taking availability from the girls and scheduling them accordingly, so we're flexible.
We're still in testing stages right now, we expect to be completely operational in the next week.
Thanks for the questions!
 
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Click2See said:
AllisonWilder said:
What are your payout options?
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We offer ACH, CCBill, Payoneer and were working on two others as I type. :dance:
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Then you might want to amend where it says that you don't have payout minimums because Payoneer has a $20 minimum. And thanks for the prompt answers! :thumbleft:
 
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AllisonWilder said:
Click2See said:
AllisonWilder said:
What are your payout options?
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We offer ACH, CCBill, Payoneer and were working on two others as I type. :dance:
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Then you might want to amend where it says that you don't have payout minimums because Payoneer has a $20 minimum. And thanks for the prompt answers! :thumbleft:
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Yes I'm sorry I should have stated that some payment options offer no minimum payout***
Thanks
 
As a Canadian gal myself I was wondering if my provincial driver's licence can be used as ID. I don't have a passport, and some sites won't allow me to use them because of that.

Also, any chance of direct deposit for Canadians? Or the more likely option, how much will you charge for wire transfers?
 
ShelterLight said:
As a Canadian gal myself I was wondering if my provincial driver's licence can be used as ID. I don't have a passport, and some sites won't allow me to use them because of that.

Also, any chance of direct deposit for Canadians? Or the more likely option, how much will you charge for wire transfers?
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It can vary by the bank you use. If you have Chase Bank its free. Or you can sign up for a free chase quick pay account and we can instantly pay you like that. If not wires can vary from $20-$45.
In regards to your provisional license, if it has your picture and your birthdate on the card, it should be no problem. However, seeing as I've never actually seen a canadian drivers license Im not entirely sure.
Thanks! :hello2:
 
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Click2See said:
I think 100 girls which, only 10-20 max will be online at a time, is more than enough for someone to choose from.
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I have seen seven or eight hundred models online on MFC and left bored. Good luck, but that is a really small number of models to have.
 
I feel you should start with a model cap of around 250-300, as you can expect at least 10% of your models to be online at any given time, maybe at peak hours 25-30% of them, it will give users a much wider variety of models to chose from.

I can honestly say having 10-15 models online to chose from will severely limit your member base as Shaun has pointed out, MFC has hundreds, sometimes up to 1,700 models online at a time and members leave because they can't find someone who peaks their fancy.

All in all, I'm sure you have thought this idea out quite a bit and I wish you the best of luck. I'll check your site out in a few months to see how it's going :thumbleft:
 
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Shaun__ said:
Click2See said:
I think 100 girls which, only 10-20 max will be online at a time, is more than enough for someone to choose from.
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I have seen seven or eight hundred models online on MFC and left bored. Good luck, but that is a really small number of models to have.
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MFC and other top sites have literally thousands upon thousands of registered models, but I've never even seen two thousand on at a time on MFC. If you only have 100 models registered it's more likely your site could spend most of it's time with between one or two models on line at a time. :twocents-02cents:
 
TheFluffsta said:
Shaun__ said:
Click2See said:
I think 100 girls which, only 10-20 max will be online at a time, is more than enough for someone to choose from.
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I have seen seven or eight hundred models online on MFC and left bored. Good luck, but that is a really small number of models to have.
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MFC and other top sites have literally thousands upon thousands of registered models, but I've never even seen two thousand on at a time on MFC. If you only have 100 models registered it's more likely your site could spend most of it's time with between one or two models on line at a time. :twocents-02cents:
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Crazysysy was joking one night around the 29th of the month when she hadn't logged on one time the whole month about being ranked 17,500 or something insane like that. I'm assuming she had a few offline tips during that month span of not logging onto MFC, so the amount of actual registered models has to be around 20,000-30,000.
 
If there are 1,700 performers online and you can't find ONE that tickles your fancy then YOU might have a problem lol :mrgreen:

Thanks for all the positive feedback guys.
Again the 100 model limit is something we're sticking with for now.
We want to avoid the endless pages of models that keep updating every minute.
Again, we are NOT trying to be like our competitors, they are great sites and do what they do very well.
We just want a piece of the pie, whether big or small, so this is an invitation to become part of a smaller company that will treat you as an individual and not dollar signs. The fact that we have a toll free number that you can reach us at any time should show that.
Keep the questions rolling! :thumbleft:
 
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Will there be guest/basic/premium then scaling tiers of premium membership like MFC? Or will it be more like Streammate where it's just guest or member?

If it's an MFC style of layout, will models be able to ban guests from their rooms? I know a lot of models seem to hate having hundreds/thousands of guests piling in their rooms with no intent to ever pay for a show or contribute in the slightest. If not, will there be a trial membership for guests/basics which limit the amount of time they can spend in a model's room before being prompted to sign up as a real, paying member?
 
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I would ask how many models you expect to see online at any given time if you have just 100? Once you do that, then work out how many hours that requires each model to do per day in order to maintain that coverage. I would then point out that going to a site that occasionally has models online is not going to be something members bother with - irrespective of how they make it "exclusive" by having limited numbers available.

Also, model churn. Models leave, go inactive. If you aren't going to sign more on, what point do you cut them off? Otherwise I would imagine within a month you'll have few active models... and given there are likely to be periods with no models online or only a few at the start - members won't hang around and models will not come back as it's inactive. You may get just 5% active.

Lastly, I'd also point out that MFC definitely has more than 80,000 models on their books. The offline model list alone lists 3000+ models who have been online within the last 3 days. It is ordered by camscore and rarely features a model below a camscore of 1,000 - so I think it's safe to say that you can guess perhaps 20,000 models online per week.

Right now there are 100 models with the "new" tag on the site. Extrapolate that upwards to work out how many sign a month. There are also 1400 models online.
 
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Weirdtimmy said:
Will there be guest/basic/premium then scaling tiers of premium membership like MFC? Or will it be more like Streammate where it's just guest or member?

If it's an MFC style of layout, will models be able to ban guests from their rooms? I know a lot of models seem to hate having hundreds/thousands of guests piling in their rooms with no intent to ever pay for a show or contribute in the slightest. If not, will there be a trial membership for guests/basics which limit the amount of time they can spend in a model's room before being prompted to sign up as a real, paying member?
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So far we have Guests, and members. No difference really besides you have to be a registered user (member) to buy tokens. Models can certainly ban users from their rooms, they can also opt to have only paying members allowed to join their room, or they can choose the free chat option. Guests and members that have not bought tokens can only view models streaming in free chat and for a limited amount of time. We also support HD streaming, and our system allows you to play music to the users while you dance and act all cute :-D
Thanks for the questions! :hello2:
 
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I would ask how many models you expect to see online at any given time if you have just 100? Once you do that, then work out how many hours that requires each model to do per day in order to maintain that coverage. I would then point out that going to a site that occasionally has models online is not going to be something members bother with - irrespective of how they make it "exclusive" by having limited numbers available.

Also, model churn. Models leave, go inactive. If you aren't going to sign more on, what point do you cut them off? Otherwise I would imagine within a month you'll have few active models... and given there are likely to be periods with no models online or only a few at the start - members won't hang around and models will not come back as it's inactive. You may get just 5% active.

Lastly, I'd also point out that MFC definitely has more than 80,000 models on their books. The offline model list alone lists 3000+ models who have been online within the last 3 days. It is ordered by camscore and rarely features a model below a camscore of 1,000 - so I think it's safe to say that you can guess perhaps 20,000 models online per week.

Right now there are 100 models with the "new" tag on the site. Extrapolate that upwards to work out how many sign a month. There are also 1400 models online.
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Wow, great deal of information here!
Thanks for the response, I will try to answer this to the best of my ability.
We're shooting for around 20 or so girls in rotations of 5 throughout the day/night. That's ultimately the goal.
We have a few girls from out of the US in different time zones as well, so that should help with the odd hours.
Considering we have traffic hitting the site from around the globe, we're working with girls all over.
We also have a few girls that will be working in the near future locally at our location.

As for the inactive models when do we cut them off deal. Its pretty simple to figure that one out, its a two way street. If you really want to be part of Click2see, you'll frequent the site ATLEAST once a week maybe once every two weeks. We'll keep in constant contact with you, so you know we're here. If you decide to not visit after a month, well reach out again and see if this is a good place for you. If not then we'll proceed with replacing you.
I understand that our competitors have a lot of performers signed up and hundreds upon thousands online at a time, however we feel that in this industry, there are always performers looking to work or begin working and ultimately they decide where to go, its all about preference. I understand that traffic and users are a big part of that, but we do have tons of traffic and every hit is a potential customer. I really enjoyed answering your questions and appreciate your opinion and insight.
Thanks and please keep them coming! :clap:
 
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Well I would like to congratulate you for actually seeing a decent and professional proposal for once.

Funnily enough I have just posted in another thread why someone else's recruiting new models thread wasn't going to be taken seriously, and all my points I think you've got covered. You are clearly taking this and us seriously and I appreciate that.

I like the layout of your site so far, although having no online models isn't great (but you've just started and at least the site is up and running). I also think having a smaller site with less models could work. But if it were me running it I'd work out the kind of members your site is going to attract and what kind of girls they want, and once you've got about 50-100 girls and girls are still applying I'd then recruit more carefully so you have the best girls in each category. I mean say you end up with all girls with large breasts and you get loads of guys with small breast fetishes, you'll end up losing out.

I also don't particularly like the idea of doing shift work. What I like about camming is that I can come online any time of the day, and if it's slow, I can go offline again!

It sounds like you have done your research, and obviously the site is only just starting to get up and running, but if I were to sign up for your site and start working, how much are you hoping/expecting a models payout will average out to? I earn aprox a $50- $75 minimum per hour at Myfreecams after they takes their share and I'm an above average but not high camscore model. I will be honest, I wouldn't consider working on another site unless I had a good chance for that average to rise considerably. One of the risks is handing over ID. If the wrong person gets hold of that info then my life and livelihood could be in danger. To sign up for a new cam site is a big risk however professional it sounds.

Is it possible to get some of the info of your IT and financial companies? It would be nice to see how you run businesses and also so we know it's all legit.
 
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Like Isabella, I'm actually impressed that this thread didn't look like a half-assed attempt to get models to join a half-assed site.

Now, for some questions from a member's point of view:

Will there be archives for the members, either chat/PM or video archives of their private shows? This is one thing I love about MFC; I can go back to my first day and find chat/PM archives and re-vist all of my privates if I am broke or just want to relive a memorable private.

I suppose to go with the above, will there be PM options? Sometimes it is nice to talk to a model in PM about what the member and model want from a private show, to make sure both will end up satisfied before hitting the private button.

Will models be able to view member cams (if members can broadcast their cams, that is) even when not in a private show with them? This may be more of the social aspect of MFC, but some models after they get to know some members just like to see them on cam, even when the model is in public chat. In my case, they like to watch me sleep. :lol: But you get the idea. I have quite a few model friends who tell me to turn my cam on while they are online just to have someone to see while they're on cam.

Will there be a friends list option? It helps to make it easier to know if a favorite model is on when the member is.

Emotes? While we don't necessarily want the eleventy-bajillion emotes MFC seems to have, there are some emotes that are fun and/or cute to see or use. Hell, I find myself wanting to use some of them in other programs like Skype, Yahoo IM, Google Talk, Etc., I've just grown so used to them.

Token/credit packages; IE how will they be structured? Will all available packages be listed, or will higher packages becomes visible and available the more one spends in time or money? Also, the price for each package, will it seem beneficial for members to want to use the higher amounts (like "bonus tokens/credit" for higher than minimum purchase), or just stick to the lowest amount? MFC likes to show that the price per token goes down with the higher packages, for example, but it levels out fairly quickly.

Going with the tokens/credit; will members have the ability to review past tips/groups/private spending?

I'll have to think on other questions.
 
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UncleThursday said:
Like Isabella, I'm actually impressed that this thread didn't look like a half-assed attempt to get models to join a half-assed site.

Now, for some questions from a member's point of view:

Will there be archives for the members, either chat/PM or video archives of their private shows? This is one thing I love about MFC; I can go back to my first day and find chat/PM archives and re-vist all of my privates if I am broke or just want to relive a memorable private.

I suppose to go with the above, will there be PM options? Sometimes it is nice to talk to a model in PM about what the member and model want from a private show, to make sure both will end up satisfied before hitting the private button.

Will models be able to view member cams (if members can broadcast their cams, that is) even when not in a private show with them? This may be more of the social aspect of MFC, but some models after they get to know some members just like to see them on cam, even when the model is in public chat. In my case, they like to watch me sleep. :lol: But you get the idea. I have quite a few model friends who tell me to turn my cam on while they are online just to have someone to see while they're on cam.

Will there be a friends list option? It helps to make it easier to know if a favorite model is on when the member is.

Emotes? While we don't necessarily want the eleventy-bajillion emotes MFC seems to have, there are some emotes that are fun and/or cute to see or use. Hell, I find myself wanting to use some of them in other programs like Skype, Yahoo IM, Google Talk, Etc., I've just grown so used to them.

Token/credit packages; IE how will they be structured? Will all available packages be listed, or will higher packages becomes visible and available the more one spends in time or money? Also, the price for each package, will it seem beneficial for members to want to use the higher amounts (like "bonus tokens/credit" for higher than minimum purchase), or just stick to the lowest amount? MFC likes to show that the price per token goes down with the higher packages, for example, but it levels out fairly quickly.

Going with the tokens/credit; will members have the ability to review past tips/groups/private spending?

I'll have to think on other questions.
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Will there be archives for the members, that is a great question and im glad you brought it up. Im not 100% entirely sure on this, but I do think it is possible with our system. I will have to ask our software engineer about this, I will get back to you with a better response as soon as I get the 411.
Private Messages we DO have and that is something you can use as much as you'd like.
As for broadcasting of USER cams, you can do this but only during a private chat.
We do have a "Favorites" option so you can have your favorite performers shown.
Performers also have the option to send "Newsletters" to their "favorites" letting know when they'll be on or what special events they are planning. Emoticons / smilies we have the standard 10 or so, however we can load more in the future.
As for tokens and token packs, the three options are available and visible to any member, and there is also a price break on tokens the more you buy. Example, $20 usd - 125 tokens, $40 usd - 225 tokens + 50 bonus tokens, $50 usd - 325 tokens + 67 bonus tokens.
Members will have the ability to see each tip / spending they've made in the past.
Great questions and thanks for your insight!
 
Isabella_deL said:
I also forgot to add, will there be any prizes? Like on mfcs with have miss mfcs?
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Yes we will have a "performer of the day" type deal that rotates evenly.
We're working on other incentives to offer in the future, and in regards to a rating system,
we're not sure if we want to implement the "cam score" type of thing on our site but its still up for
debate.
 
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Example, $20 usd - 125 tokens, $40 usd - 225 tokens + 50 bonus tokens, $50 usd - 325 tokens + 67 bonus tokens.
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Not to be the guy who picks at things, but if it's $20 for 125 tokens, shouldn't you be getting at least 250 tokens for $40, even before any bonus points are taken into account?
 
mynameisbob84 said:
Click2See said:
Example, $20 usd - 125 tokens, $40 usd - 225 tokens + 50 bonus tokens, $50 usd - 325 tokens + 67 bonus tokens.
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Not to be the guy who picks at things, but if it's $20 for 125 tokens, shouldn't you be getting at least 250 tokens for $40, even before any bonus points are taken into account?
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You are correct I made a mistake there, its 250 tokens for $40 us + 25 bonus. Excuse me for that.
:oops:
 
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