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[Tiagrl]

Hi, I am a current cam model seriously trying to get into it on a full time basis, somewhat. I tend to show everything on cam right when I start my broadcast, since I tried the tip menu and not showing anything without a tip, did not bring any tips in at all. Seems that guys just do not respect cam models very much anymore. Most of my room is filled iwth freeloaders, I usually have around 100 guys in my room everyday and over 1,000 followers. I get a few tips once in awhile from a few regulars, but not much. I barely earn $5.00 a day, way less than minumum wage. I am not a young girl either, up their in age, so I have that going too. I tend to work 6-8 hours a day on cam during the daytime, not able to afford good llighting, so have to rely on the lamp I have and natural lighting from outside., I am disabled and on a limited income. Is there anything I can do to attract tippers? I do interact with everyone in my room, so that is no problem. I heard that the best time to broadcast is at night from 10:00pm-2:00am or later, is this true? Like I said though, I just show it all when I start my broadcast, I am on a token site and find that better than a pay per minute site. When I show everything, my room fills up quickly, which is what I want, right? The more followers you have the better chance of earning more money? Maybe?

Tia

 

[MrsCookie]

Hi,

I tried looking for you on CB. Search does not turn up Tiagrl. Are you on CB? I am a good tipper.

 

[Sansa]

Lighting is one of those things that can really make a big difference. You don't need super expensive equipment, but if you can manage to get (a lot) of cheaper lamps from others for free if they're moving/getting rid of stuff or from things like yard sales/craigs list it could help a lot. Also camming during the day can help if you really can't afford more lighting right now. Just make sure that the light is on you and not behind you.

Clips and phone sites might also help with supplementary income. Clips4Sale and Niteflirt are both known for being decent. If you film clips during the day, again it will help with the lighting issue. Niteflirt is mostly phone, so you wouldn't even have to deal with the issue of being on cam.

 

[Mila_]

You are better off with a small room with 1 or 2 members intrigued enough to tip than baring it all for 100s of randoms. Consider doing less.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

You are better off with a small room with 1 or 2 members intrigued enough to tip than baring it all for 100s of randoms. Consider doing less.

What @Mila_ said. Just because you have a lot of viewers doesn't necessarily translate into tippers. Also, from my experience as a tipping member, certain things become expected. Such as why tip when it's given for free? Or, why should people tip when they know someone else will most likely tip (usually a "white knight")?

 

[Nigerian Prince]

Sometimes I just do a ticket show if I have a lot of viewers but no one is tipping, and usually I can squeeze a few tokens out of that. You have to condition regulars to know that they don't get to see the good stuff without tips.

 

[Diana_Devil]

Hi,

I tried looking for you on CB. Search does not turn up Tiagrl. Are you on CB? I am a good tipper.

Yes Jon please support her a bit if you can .

 

[Tiagrl]

Thank you for your suggestions. I did start my shows by covering up now and not showing anything unless they tip according to my tip menu, a dramatic shift in room mmebers too, less than 20 memebers in my room for the entire 8 hours I am online and rarely anyone is tipping. I even put up goals, such as a cum show at 1000 tokens, never meet my goal. I am a petite woman and have small breasts, so maybe that is against me, I don't know. Taking a break right now from my stream, will be going back on shortly though. Here is my tip menu, am I charging too much? How does the All In One Bot work on Chatturbate too? Because I launched it and no one can see my tip menu when they type in /tipmenu.

Tip Menu:
Blow Kiss--10 tkns
Flash tities--40tkns
Flash ass--50tkns
Flash pussy --100tkns
Finger pussy--200tkns
Finger ass--210tkns

 

[Mila_]

Thank you for your suggestions. I did start my shows by covering up now and not showing anything unless they tip according to my tip menu, a dramatic shift in room mmebers too, less than 20 memebers in my room for the entire 8 hours I am online and rarely anyone is tipping. I even put up goals, such as a cum show at 1000 tokens, never meet my goal. I am a petite woman and have small breasts, so maybe that is against me, I don't know. Taking a break right now from my stream, will be going back on shortly though. Here is my tip menu, am I charging too much? How does the All In One Bot work on Chatturbate too? Because I launched it and no one can see my tip menu when they type in /tipmenu.

Tip Menu:
Blow Kiss--10 tkns
Flash tities--40tkns
Flash ass--50tkns
Flash pussy --100tkns
Finger pussy--200tkns
Finger ass--210tkns

Several things:

1) you have cultivated an audience who knows you show them everything for free and don’t see a reason to tip for nudity. You will struggle at first until they forget you used to bare it all like that and until you find new members who don’t know you used to do that.

2) it’s not an “all or nothing” game either. Keep some things hidden.. show others.. don’t offer to show all in flashes in a tip menu for 40, you are still telling them unveiling the mystery is easy and cheap so they assume a sucker will come along and cough up the 40 tokens which doesn’t make anyone step up to the challenge. You need to make goals that are attainable but require some team work on the part of the viewers. Camming is a subtle art.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

I am a petite woman and have small breasts, so maybe that is against me, I don't know.

Nothing wrong with small breasted women at all. A couple of models I used to follow were petite, and small breasted. Never bothered me at all, as it's not just the size that matters.

Changing up your show a bit will take some time to reset. @Mila_ gave some reasons why. As it's rebuilding, think of other ways to attract and entice people to tip. This can be more communication and talking, if you can get people to respond to you. Something else to consider is seduction. Dancing, teasing, slightly burlesque and risque. Figure out a way to make them want to see more of you.

Something that kind of bothered me about some models is they just sit there, maybe chat very little and don't really do much to entice tipping. It's almost as if they feel entitled and people should just tip them for sitting there. I see more models doing this now, and it's something that keeps me out of a model's room. I understand that after a while, there's only so much one can do if there's no one in the room, or people are not responding.

 

[AudriTwo]

Im barely an A cup, and I'm a popular model on my site.


You don't need boobs to make money.

 

[Tiagrl]

Several things:

1) you have cultivated an audience who knows you show them everything for free and don’t see a reason to tip for nudity. You will struggle at first until they forget you used to bare it all like that and until you find new members who don’t know you used to do that.

2) it’s not an “all or nothing” game either. Keep some things hidden.. show others.. don’t offer to show all in flashes in a tip menu for 40, you are still telling them unveiling the mystery is easy and cheap so they assume a sucker will come along and cough up the 40 tokens which doesn’t make anyone step up to the challenge. You need to make goals that are attainable but require some team work on the part of the viewers. Camming is a subtle art.

I understand that I may struggle for awhile by not showing all. As with number 2, instead of showing both breasts for 40, maybe just one? I don't know, so far I have not had anyone tip 40 yet to show them. I just tease now by keeping everyting on, I will sometimes give them a quick peak but that is all. The damn bots are not working properly on my computer, so I only have one bot running, which is a goal bot for a show, have not met that goal yet, it is set for 1000 tokens for a butt show. I do get up and move around, dance a little, interact with everyone.

So...should I change my tip menu to something else? Any examples that I might be able to get a good idea? The all in one bot is not working at all on my broadcast stream. No one can see my tip menu, unless they look at my profile. PM me if you would like.

 

[Nigerian Prince]

I understand that I may struggle for awhile by not showing all. As with number 2, instead of showing both breasts for 40, maybe just one? I don't know, so far I have not had anyone tip 40 yet to show them. I just tease now by keeping everyting on, I will sometimes give them a quick peak but that is all. The damn bots are not working properly on my computer, so I only have one bot running, which is a goal bot for a show, have not met that goal yet, it is set for 1000 tokens for a butt show. I do get up and move around, dance a little, interact with everyone.

So...should I change my tip menu to something else? Any examples that I might be able to get a good idea? The all in one bot is not working at all on my broadcast stream. No one can see my tip menu, unless they look at my profile. PM me if you would like.

You can try using smaller goals to remove items of clothing while working up to a larger goal

 

[Tiagrl]

Thank you Nigerian Prince I was just thinking about that earlier today. My next question is, what is the best time to stream?

 

[Deleted member 46887]

I would recommend smaller tip menu amounts. Instant gratification is the game here and I get more 4x as many flash boobs at 25 than I did at 50, so I’m making 2x the amount. My tip menu is mostly under 100 tkns. My goals are incremental, leading up to a cum show. My goals are different from my tip menu, so that while we are working toward a goal, there are a lot of teasing flashes. Also, a lot of viewers like games. So i alternate between dice games, lucky number, and others. I recently was able to successfully switch from being naked 99% of the time to about 10% by changing my goals and menu items gradually. I hope this helps!

 

[Tiagrl]

Thank you dirty_therapy

 

[Ladyraini]

Lighting helps and so does teasing members, i personally get a bit annoyed at models that show everything for free, because why would a member come into a room and tip, when he can go elsewhere and see everything for free? It kinda spoils it for everyone else

Make then pay, because they will, i keep goals low-ish or do club shows fee they need to pay to see you naked

 

[Mila_]

Lighting helps and so does teasing members, i personally get a bit annoyed at models that show everything for free, because why would a member come into a room and tip, when he can go elsewhere and see everything for free? It kinda spoils it for everyone else

Make then pay, because they will, i keep goals low-ish or do club shows fee they need to pay to see you naked

Actually... you should be thankful of hardcore models because they are the ones who bring and hook new members to the site so they can later spend in your room and mine. Camming is an ecosystem and tease rooms only thrive when the camsite has established a regular clientele thanks to the more hardcore models. Be grateful for their work.

 

[SaffronBurke]

Lighting helps and so does teasing members, i personally get a bit annoyed at models that show everything for free, because why would a member come into a room and tip, when he can go elsewhere and see everything for free? It kinda spoils it for everyone else

Make then pay, because they will, i keep goals low-ish or do club shows fee they need to pay to see you naked

Some models find that they do better logging on nude and starting their countdowns for shows from there. They're not hurting anyone, each model is different and is going to draw a different crowd. My customer base likes fat chicks in glasses, so the skinny girl who's already nude and working toward her "insert butt plug" goal isn't going to hurt my income stream. Dudes who like a little tease and mystery are also not going to hang out in her room, they're going to find someone with clothes on and tip for what they want.

 

[Ladyraini]

Actually... you should be thankful of hardcore models because they are the ones who bring and hook new members to the site so they can later spend in your room and mine. Camming is an ecosystem and tease rooms only thrive when the camsite has established a regular clientele thanks to the more hardcore models. Be grateful for their work.

Sorry but I stand by what I said, each to their own though, cam sites would be boring if everyone is the same but I do believe that members are less like to tip a model if they can jack off for free elsewhere,

 

[Ladyraini]

Sorry but I stand by what I said, each to their own though, cam sites would be boring if everyone is the same but I do believe that members are less like to tip a model if they can jack off for free elsewhere,

Also I'm totally grateful to the hard core models, but I don't think they give the goods away for free, I've seen new models log on nude and start anal shows with no countdowns or goals first, again why are people going to pay when they can get it for free

 

[Nigerian Prince]

Sorry but I stand by what I said, each to their own though, cam sites would be boring if everyone is the same but I do believe that members are less like to tip a model if they can jack off for free elsewhere,

If they are in your room it already means they are more interested in you than some other hardcore model doing stuff they can see for free

 

[Ladyraini]

If they are in your room it already means they are more interested in you than some other hardcore model doing stuff they can see for free

Fair point! I am not intentional trying to be argumentive btw, it's just how I feel about it, I'm interested in why people feel it's better to log on nude

 

[Diana_Devil]

Fair point! I am not intentional trying to be argumentive btw, it's just how I feel about it, I'm interested in why people feel it's better to log on nude

Simple .. because if i log on nude my rooms fill fast and i make 5 times more money if i stay dressed , and without making hardcore shows . Thats how works for me. If i start dressed i need to stare at my screen for 4-5 hours and pray all the saints to catch a good tipper to make my minimum daily , aand for that money i have to shove my pussy until burns.
If i stay dressed i get requests for hardcore shows for 2-300tks , if i stay naked i start my final big show after 5000-6000 tokens , if i do not get them i do not make the show but people do not get mad. Instead when i stay dressed IF they tip to take me naked ( witch very very rarely happend ) they wait right away a hardcore show for the same money they paid to get me naked.

Even in the days when i am putting some clothes on i always let some of my principal parts open to wiew otherwise i eat onions( if i can afford them too) and i pay my bills with compliments.

But here its how it works for me ... for others works diffrently i saw . So i think depends a lot of how the members see you or feel you. In my case they do not consider that i worth money to get naked so i updated my tactic and now i am happy i did.

 

[Mila_]

Sorry but I stand by what I said, each to their own though, cam sites would be boring if everyone is the same but I do believe that members are less like to tip a model if they can jack off for free elsewhere,

Why go to a camsite when Pornhub is full of hardcore videos for free? Everyone can jack off for free on the internet, that isn’t the point.

 

[Diana_Devil]

Many models do not understand that a show has to be according with your personality.
If you are a teaser in real life you will do the best money from your tease shows, if you are a raw model then go for nude comunication shows, if you are a hardcore lover or domme or whatever thats what you need to sell.
Members can spot the real you and they want that. thats why they come on cam sites to watch and masturbate with real natural people.Thats why they like and love cam models even if there are tons of free videos , they want the real person not a puppet on the screen. And thats why some models make money as naked , some dressed , teasing and etc.

 

[AmberCutie]

Actually... you should be thankful of hardcore models because they are the ones who bring and hook new members to the site so they can later spend in your room and mine. Camming is an ecosystem and tease rooms only thrive when the camsite has established a regular clientele thanks to the more hardcore models. Be grateful for their work.

You can think all you want about showing stuff for free, but this statement is correct. Cam sites get their traffic from the models that do nude shows in public chat. And most of us models who do naked stuff in public chat are by far NOT doing "for free" but allowing people to see it when other tippers have chipped in for us, which I think you understand.

You have to have a large enough, loyal enough, following of members to do this and be profitable from it regardless of if you get naked in public chat or you do it behind a cam site's paywall. New models that come on and judge the book by its cover are at a heavy disadvantage toward making their own successful room.

 

[Beawaresweety]

I sincerely second Mila's, Natural_Pussy's and AmberCutie's posts. Traffic comes from models that do offer nude or even hardcore public shows.

It doesn't mean they discourage newbies on a site to tip you or any other model. To each their own, and every model has got her own audience. It depends on so many aspects.

What's the worst thing that might happen to you because of these "free" public shows? You'll be asked to do it too. Perhaps, members will expect you to show something in the public chat (if you're a pvt based model) or to show something cheaper or even for free if you're a public based model but with higher prices for flashes and for anything else.

But guess what? You aren't obligated to do ANYTHING you've been asked to do if it doesn't fit you, just because other models do show that "for free" or "cheaper" or start broadcasting fully naked. And you have the right to set your prices as high as you find reasonable. Your room, your rules. You're the boss. And your audience will find you, sooner or later, if you're an interesting cam-girl who has got something exciting to offer (as in, social and sexual aspects altogether).

I understand that it may be tiresome and exhausting to get the same requests 100 times a day and that's an unpleasant thing to figure out that some members expect you to do something you aren't gonna offer for less than a certain amount/you aren't comfortable with. But it's how cam-world works.
You set your prices and your boundaries on your own.
Other models have nothing to do with that.
Even if they aren't helpful (which is debatable because of the main source of traffic, again), they definitely don't affect your business in a negative way.

P.S. I'm a cam-girl who has been around for 3 years, I don't offer explicit public shows and I haven't noticed any impact on my business from models that offer these shows. Yeah, I've started getting a little more specific requests, and some members expect more than I want to offer but I completely ignore all this stuff because I've got my own hustle and someone else's expectations aren't my problem.

 

[AudriTwo]

Someone last week got really salty of me being topless in freechat for free. They are my boobs. I can show them when I feel like it.

When I'm topless on cam without someone tipping me now it's different than when I was new. I have built up an audience who knows I am probably gonna start a countdown soon because I finished a show and I want to keep my horniess going or I'm being a fucking tease and giving them some nips for a few minutes to maybe entice someone to do a show. It fills my room up quickly regardless what the outcome is.

Don't be upset at other girls "giving it away for free" because majority of them were paid, or apart of their hustle. Also if they attracting non paying members, isn't that a good thing? They are soaking up all the freeloaders while the actual members who want a different experience are left to go elsewhere.

 

[Natalie_Lavender]

Don’t put too much weight on your follower count. While it’s nice to see that number get bigger, unless they mark those CB emails as “not spam”, that’s where they end up. Basically pointless.

I’m creeping up to 30,000 followers now, but I’ve had GREAT nights when there are only 50 users or less in my room. There are still crappy nights too. I stream from about 9p-11p MST, because I have a full time vanilla job, so it’s the only time I can. But that’s the time period I’ve been on since I started camming, almost 2 years ago. That time works for me because I’m consistent with it. Hopping around too much and being inconsistent will limit you from establishing good tipping regulars. Or just regulars in general. I have switched it up and surprised everyone with a daytime show once in a great while & have done well during those too. But those are rare treats for me to do, just because of my vanilla schedule.

In regards to appearances...there is always someone for everyone. That’s what’s great about these sites. A wide variety for users to choose to view from. I’ll be 39 soon, curvy, stretch marks & loads of tattoos. Am I everyone’s type? Nope. And that’s wonderful actually. Do my looks get users to enter my room? Yes. But my personality will keep them coming back. Or just my ass. Lol

I switch my shows up. Sometimes I start completely nude, horny & wanting to have an orgasm at goal. Or because it’s too damn hot in my room. Lol. Other times it’s a strip show, or games. Heck, the other night I was literally just streaming to troubleshoot a bitrate issue. No box lights on, mic muted, no makeup, fully clothed, no goals or tip menu, no hashtags, room subject just said “Troubleshooting”...and made more tips that night than the night before when I did a nude show. I had 150 users in my room when I signed off after just an hour. Don’t get me wrong, my nude shows do well too. But you just never know from one day to the next, who’s going to click on your room & drop some tokens.