Hey Stripchat, why can't you match Chaturbate's token prices?

[vivo]

I see that quite a few Chaturbate models split-stream to Stripchat, yet their tip menus and private show costs are often the same between both platforms. Obviously the canny shopper will go for Chaturbate.

 

[Ozzie_]

All sites have varying values for token packages. I am not sure that SC needs you or any user to coach them on such a basic operational issue.

Persaonlly given how CB seems to treat models and also just the (IMO) hideous interface they have, I will never use CB.

 

[xChloe]

I see that quite a few Chaturbate models split-stream to Stripchat, yet their tip menus and private show costs are often the same between both platforms. Obviously the canny shopper will go for Chaturbate.

That's an interesting comment; thank you.

Please PM me an example of when a purchase by the same payment method for the same amount is more profitable on CB; I will forward this information to my colleagues if there is a significant difference.

 

[vivo]

All sites have varying values for token packages

If you compare CB's and SC's various packages you'll see that CB is generally around 20% cheaper overall. Models who split-stream on both sites don't seem to be aware of this, and (from my experience at least) set their prices the same at each site.

I would prefer to fling my goo at SC rooms like you, but given that the economy is about to go for a long-term swim down Faeces Creek I'm looking after my shekels.

 

[xChloe]

Models who split-stream on both sites don't seem to be aware of this, and (from my experience at least) set their prices the same at each site.

The token cost is fixed for the models on Stripchat (and probably on CB, too).

That helps models not think of how many tokens and how exactly the user bought.

 

[Ozzie_]

If you compare CB's and SC's various packages you'll see that CB is generally around 20% cheaper overall. Models who split-stream on both sites don't seem to be aware of this, and (from my experience at least) set their prices the same at each site.

I would prefer to fling my goo at SC rooms like you, but given that the economy is about to go for a long-term swim down Faeces Creek I'm looking after my shekels.

if SC were to reduce what they charge us users, then they woudl have to reduce what they pay the models. Is that what you want?

 

[vivo]

Sorry Oz, you seem to be missing my point.

If you have the same model who split-streams at both SC and CB, and who prices their services at both sites at the same amount of tokens, which site do you think the average goo-flinger would choose if one site's tokens are cheaper to purchase than the other?

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

And yet, there are people spending money on both. Seems to be working out fine. While getting the most tokens per dollar is your most important criteria when choosing a platform to spend on, that is not every potential member's highest concern.

 

[norcalmd]

It sort of depends on how many tokens you purchase at a time. For example, the $50 packages are almost identical (540 tokens on Stripchat vs 550 tokens on CB). Stripchat also offers discounted packages (around 50% off) a couple of times a year.

 

[AmberCutie]

And yet, there are people spending money on both. Seems to be working out fine. While getting the most tokens per dollar is your most important criteria when choosing a platform to spend on, that is not every potential member's highest concern.

It sort of depends on how many tokens you purchase at a time. For example, the $50 packages are almost identical (540 tokens on Stripchat vs 550 tokens on CB). Stripchat also offers discounted packages (around 50% off) a couple of times a year.

A few cents here and there can be sacrificed for a better platform experience! If you're one of the folks to squabble over a few pennies per transaction... well I don't even know what to tell ya.

I'm the kind of person who pays a bit extra for convenience or a better experience.

 

[Ozzie_]

A few cents here and there can be sacrificed for a better platform experience! If you're one of the folks to squabble over a few pennies per transaction... well I don't even know what to tell ya.

I'm the kind of person who pays a bit extra for convenience or a better experience.

Yes, but clearly you are *not* the "average goo-flinger"

 

[AmberCutie]

goo-flinger

I'm not sure I even wanna embrace this term

 

[vivo]

I'm the kind of person who pays a bit extra for convenience or a better experience.

With respect, it seems you are also missing my point. The same model showing the same stream at two websites for two different ultimate costs to the consumer fails to convey to me either "convenience" or "a better experience".

 

[AmberCutie]

With respect, it seems you are also missing my point. The same model showing the same stream at two websites for two different ultimate costs to the consumer fails to convey to me either "convenience" or "a better experience".

You are also missing mine.

 

[vivo]

Touche+!

 

[mika_kedi]

With respect, it seems you are also missing my point. The same model showing the same stream at two websites for two different ultimate costs to the consumer fails to convey to me either "convenience" or "a better experience".

If you compare CB's and SC's various packages you'll see that CB is generally around 20% cheaper overall. Models who split-stream on both sites don't seem to be aware of this, and (from my experience at least) set their prices the same at each site.

Dude, I don't understand why you keep bringing up model prices over and over again like we're somehow supposed to adjust them for you???

You seem to not be aware of some things, so I will explain them to you.

I am a model and I'm aware that different token packages have different prices, but the thing is I don't give a flying fuck how much you spent on your tokens or how much exactly the site has made on your purchase. I care about how much I earn and as Chloe said it's a fixed amount on Stripchat. I can confirm it is also the same fixed amount of $0,05 per token on CB. I'm an independent contractor who only gets paid in tips that are worth the same to me on all sites I split stream to. I don't get a salary from any of these sites, so I really don't care which site you choose to spend your money on. If you prefer to do it on CB then go there, it doesn't affect me.

Also, since there are so many different token packages on both sites with so many different values per token for member depending on package size and payment method etc. I can't imagine how would that price adjusting to make it "fair" for you work. Am I supposed to ask every member what token package he bought, how much he spent and based on that calculate if I should charge him 49, 50, or 51 tokens for a flash? Lol

 

[Bella-White]

I do not think that the only criteria of a user is the price of the tokens, for example they are 2 completely different platforms in terms of user experience. I suppose it is your personal case and it is totally acceptable but it cannot be generalized

 

[MoonAndStars]

With respect, it seems you are also missing my point. The same model showing the same stream at two websites for two different ultimate costs to the consumer fails to convey to me either "convenience" or "a better experience".

There's more to experience than just the user. If you read through the forums on here, it's not hard to have an opinion that SC treats models better than CB does. In other words, a better model experience is part of what you're paying for. I would think where most users spend their money would encourage models to spend more time and effort on that platform. Also, personally I think the interface on CB looks like it was designed many years ago without an update since then.

As to the pricing itself, as others have said, this is really just quibbling. 540 tokens for $49.99 (USD) vs 550 tokens for the same price. So this is about 10 tokens? (Using $50 as kind of a standard package to buy since most token sites offer it.) Sure, eventually you might see some kind of real savings, but there seem to be other, often better, ways to save money.

 

[NotYou]

If you're like me and not some rich guy or have lots of cash to throw, (and I think maybe "the average" is the same (or similar?), then we probably buy the 200 or 540/550 package the most.
CB + SC = both have 200 tokens for $21, and as also mentioned, the 540 and 550 packages are $50 - yes above that is a saving in comparison across platforms, BUT...

Anyone who can buy more than those probably doesn't care so much about the few $ they can save from one platform to the other, especially since, like it is already mentioned, StripChat is such a better and happier experience. They have NO ADS across the website, so if they need to charge an extra $1 or $2 on token packages, then so be it for me. Would you rather they clutter the site with lots of ads and have popup ads (cam4, not sure what else that one is, but they are stupid).

As also mentioned, SC offers seasonal promotions for everyone, which is fantastic for both the user and the model.

 

[yummybrownfox]

Price matching? What you think this is…Walmart?

Stripchat doesn’t have to try to be like Chaturbate. SC definitely has better support, and treats models better…that’s for sure. I also don’t understand why some members feel like they have to be following/tipping a model on every platform she’s on. You do realize you can just stick to one preferred site, right? If you think Chaturbate is so great, just stay over there? This thread is weird.

All these people on here lately joining the forum to dump on Stripchat, and you still get calm, professional responses from SC Support willing to listen and come to an understanding with you. Props to them for that.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

I think this is a really interesting look at different types of customers.

For the OP, Price is the driving factor for him and he assumes, this will also be the driving factor for everyone else.
Amber would rather pay a little more for tokens if she has a better experience overall on the platform (this could be a number of things, better customer support, better streaming quality, trust in privacy, ease of payment options, etc)
Other types of buyers will be more inclined to purchase based on other factors.

When you buy tokens on one site vs another the experience will not be identical even if there is a split stream. So the tokens are not the same product priced differently. They are actually different products, giving different experiences.

I had someone pitch me an adult site idea recently and the wording they used was "What does every porn buyer want? A discount! What does every model want? More customers!"
While there's certainly an argument to be made that there are customers that are incredibly price conscious so that they'll platform hop for discounts, my first thought was those are NOT the customers I want to attract. I want more customers certainly but the type that will switch sites to save a small amount of $$$ are also the type that are likely to be the type of customers that drain my resources and don't result in the $$. I want a variety of customers, but primarily I want mid range folks and higher tippers. The person that switches platforms to save $10-$20 is never going to be a significant source of income for me.

That said, I am aware of the differences in pricing on tokens and I do make an effort with my clip stores to price match them to what the consumer pays vs my payout. That's because my clips are often the most entry-level products I sell so they're the products that DO attract the penny pinchers. I also don't need to interact with those people. They buy, the clip arrives - very low interaction. The only clip stores I don't adjust for this with is clip stores where I'm very much only maintaining a presence there and I'd rather folks bought elsewhere. They can pay a little extra for using those platforms because I'm not a fan of the platform for whatever reason.

I dunno this is a bit of a ramble but it's interesting. It can be difficult for models to price match clip sites because of VAT/Taxes. Some sites add these, some dont and it depends on the users country. For example I believe MV as a canadian company charges differently for canadians vs people from elsewhere. And C4S I see vastly differing amounts on what people pay in taxes on top of their purchase. Many sites don't tell us what tax or fees (or even $$) the customer spent on the product they've bought.

 

[Nienna]

FWIW, my friend charges 12tk for pvt in CB, and 8tk in SC. These rates are apparently set by her admins, so the studios are aware of the value disparity. She also sets a surcharge for nudity which she sets herself, which is also more expensive in CB.
I visit her in SC, at her request. Although she gets much more traffic in CB, she prefers to interact with her favorite members in SC, which is very telling.
She also has the option of Exclusive Private in SC, where she can charge a bit more. This is the option I use, because, well she is just worth it and I want to support her.
And as a shameless plug for SC, it is a wonderful site and my personal favorite. They go out of their way to help and protect the models, and it is a great experience for members too.

 

[Diana_Devil]

I don't give a flying fuck how much you spent on your tokens or how much exactly the site has made on your purchase. I care about how much I earn and as Chloe said it's a fixed amount on Stripchat.

ABSOLUTELLY THIS !!!

 

[Diana_Devil]

I will forward this information to my colleagues if there is a significant difference.

Please do not refere , there are enought wippe asses on stripchat . let the stripchat how it is , a more selective place !

He sounds like the typical costumer going to a 5 stars restaurant complaining why the same stake cost 5 times more comparing with the local small bar where the flyes are flying over your food and where the waiter ( if any ) looks like encountered a vulcano eruption , after wressled in the pigstry farm ......... in this case not even worth to explain or refere something further

 

[BlackWizard]

A few cents here and there can be sacrificed for a better platform experience! If you're one of the folks to squabble over a few pennies per transaction... well I don't even know what to tell ya.

I'm the kind of person who pays a bit extra for convenience or a better experience.

respect ! I love what u wrote!

 

[NotYou]

Please do not refere , there are enought wippe asses on stripchat . let the stripchat how it is , a more selective place !

He sounds like the typical costumer going to a 5 stars restaurant complaining why the same stake cost 5 times more comparing with the local small bar where the flyes are flying over your food and where the waiter ( if any ) looks like encountered a vulcano eruption , after wressled in the pigstry farm ......... in this case not even worth to explain or refere something further

This is a very good analogy and example, and you can take this same idea and place it across other places too, even the simple things like supermarkets and a pint/litre/gallon of milk.
I am in a very small town here and we have less than 20,000 population, yet we have multiple supermarkets, and each one has milk, bread, and other various essentials at different prices, even though the product comes from the exact same factories and farmers etc.

Your one is definitely better with a steak and restaurant though, as that would also be paying "more" for the top-notch (or at least better) experience.

 

[dau69]

I started visiting Stripchat 6 months ago because they have VR. My favorite model there hates SC for whatever reason and eventually got me to start visiting her mostly on her CB page instead. I resisted at first until I saw that there were cheaper token prices. She told me she made the same whether I visited her on CB or SC so to me it was a no brainer. I do follow some models on both platforms which makes it convienent if I am out of tokens on one site but not the other.