My cam was hacked by a bot on Chaturbate! On multiple outside websites!!

[KatyJ]

Please help I was hacked on chaturbate! I’m so fucking pissed. I’ve only been camming for a week and I thought I had taken all precautions to prevent this. I use google chrome and have mcafee and another firewall security blocker running?! What can I do to have content removed and to block anonymous users in my room / prevent this from happening any more?!!

 

[AmberCutie]

Being recorded and those vids posted to other sites is not you being "hacked". Has nothing to do with your firewall or virus detection.

 

[SaffronBurke]

You weren't hacked, you were recorded. There's literally no way to stop it.

 

[Rhiannon Reye]

Everyone gets recorded by bots. It isn’t a hack. As others have said, there’s no way to completely stop it. It comes with the territory of being on cam. Sure you can report it but many sites don’t respond to DMCA takedown requests so...you either recognize that it WILL happen, or stop camming if it’s that big of a risk.

 

[itsfaye]

I just started camming and I'm fine with all the risks, but out of curiosity, how did you find out you're on other sites?

 

[Deleted member 43650]

Everyone gets recorded by bots. It isn’t a hack. As others have said, there’s no way to completely stop it. It comes with the territory of being on cam. Sure you can report it but many sites don’t respond to DMCA takedown requests so...you either recognize that it WILL happen, or stop camming if it’s that big of a risk.

This. It's a reality of camming and part of what we all sign up for. I'm on like 50 different pay-sites (that I have NO affiliation with) and I only cammed for a few months. The consolation is the footage is shitty quality and these sites are usually a huge mess to navigate anyway. Most of them are based overseas and won't care about a DMCA notice, so don't even bother. They have multiple mirrors set up anyway, so one video gets taken down, another one goes right back up.

The way some of these sites work is by an aggregation of ad-funding and affiliate contracts. Some guy will set up a domain, hosting service, and a server or three and go around recording cam-shows to post on his new site. He'll sit back and collect the ad revenue. Other sites (more common now with cam-rips) will charge a membership fee on TOP of the ad revenue.

Yes, it sucks, but you have to just let it go. The people who run these sites are shunned in the industry and highly frowned upon. If you're worried about privacy, I always note the "doctrine of mutually-assured destruction": if someone finds you on a porn site, saying anything about it will reveal that they were looking at porn (presumably) to begin with.

 

[ElaySmith]

I just started camming and I'm fine with all the risks, but out of curiosity, how did you find out you're on other sites?

Google your model name.

 

[DMCA-fr]

You could probably try our services. We are pretty new on the market, but we have also invested in new methods to fight piracy and recording of camshows.
We too can not guarantee that we get all content removed but we try our best to accomplish our missions.

We know how important it is to keep at least a minimum of privacy.
Visit us at https://www.dmca-fr.com and give it a try

 

[KatyJ]

You weren't hacked, you were recorded. There's literally no way to stop it.

Even if I block anonymous users? Or the block people or aren’t chatting? I mean I know it won’t block all but maybe help? Do you have experience with take downs and what company to use?

 

[DMCA-fr]

Hey Katy, look at my profile and you will find my site.
I was warned because my last post was considered as spam, and I don't want to break site rules. So I do not post the links to my site

But what I can tell you is, that you should consider using OBS to add some prominent watermarking, especially when going private. Here you can place the name of your guest on a prominent place so it can't be removed without destroying the video. At least you will find the infringer. Another thing is the problem that you can block anonymous users, but that doesn't help, because the recorders use active accounts and log in with their recording software. So you have no idea if a user who is logged in is a recorder or just a normal guest.

In some cases they even start to spy on private shows to record your stream.

So there is nothing what really works to stop recording!

The only thing you can do, is being fast and get on first hand all Google links and pictures removed ... then try to get the recordings taken down.

How many links does Google list if youe search for your performer name(s)??

And if you want to try to take down the pirated streams, never ever reveal your real identity to those infringers ... or better use a professional agent who does the work with the right tools!

 

[SMuser69]

Even if I block anonymous users? Or the block people or aren’t chatting? I mean I know it won’t block all but maybe help? Do you have experience with take downs and what company to use?

They are pulling the video feed directly from the cam site server usually so they don't even have to be in the room to capture the video. Directing paranoia toward your room members isn't advisable. You can reduce risk keep your naked behind paywalls however that's not usually an option on public cam sites. And even that you still will occasionally get people that will pay then rip the video anyway (people post SM gold shows for example).

 

[Alyssa Taylor]

If you decide to stick it out with camming and get model verified on here, there's a lot of info about DMCA in the Models Only section. There's even threads about how you can do DMCA yourself without paying a 3rd party

ETA: I also wanna echo everyone else in here, there's not much you can do to prevent being recorded, no matter what site you're on. Sometimes on more sites than others, but it'll always happen.

 

[DMCA-fr]

If you decide to stick it out with camming and get model verified on here, there's a lot of info about DMCA in the Models Only section. There's even threads about how you can do DMCA yourself without paying a 3rd party

ETA: I also wanna echo everyone else in here, there's not much you can do to prevent being recorded, no matter what site you're on. Sometimes on more sites than others, but it'll always happen.

Yes anybody can do that takedown job by themselves ... and yess there are many tutorials around the internet.
But do you want to spend the time of a fulltime job to get all the obstacles like sites hiding behind CloudFlare or anonymized email accounts or non-working dmca links solved by yourself?

I think it is better to do a wonderful job as a webcam model and enjoy the guests of your shows!
I'm neither beautiful nor sexy, but I know my business ...

So lets everybody do the work they perform best ... LOL ... you the sexy stuff and the takedown experts the fight against dmca issues

 

[JustATease69]

I remember after my first few shows I googled my username and nearly had a heart attack lol. Like everyone else has said really nothing you can do to prevent it, I submitted a few of the takedown requests before I realized it was just taking up to much of my time lol.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

Yes anybody can do that takedown job by themselves ... and yess there are many tutorials around the internet.
But do you want to spend the time of a fulltime job to get all the obstacles like sites hiding behind CloudFlare or anonymized email accounts or non-working dmca links solved by yourself?

I think it is better to do a wonderful job as a webcam model and enjoy the guests of your shows!
I'm neither beautiful nor sexy, but I know my business ...

So lets everybody do the work they perform best ... LOL ... you the sexy stuff and the takedown experts the fight against dmca issues

How incredibly patronizing.

I also run a service (nothing to do with copyright) for models. I've never felt the need to tell them what they should or shouldn't do themselves. They're perfectly capable of assessing if their time is better spent doing it themselves or using a service to do it for them.



To the OP: before you decide what to do take a breath and decide why it matters to you if you're posted other places.

It may be due to you wanting to keep a low profile, privacy issues etc or maybe you feel like you're losing money. I personally don't think recorded public chats lose me too much $ compared to what I'd spend (time or money) chasing them down but every model is different and it may be worth it to you.

Your site will offer some dcma services but you will need to find the links yourself to send them.

The advice to watermark your feed is very good. At the very least it will direct traffic to you and help establish that your feed belongs to you.

 

[DMCA-fr]

Your site will offer some dcma services but you will need to find the links yourself to send them.

Depending on the subscription there is no need to find links by the webcam model. We offer automated searches by our crawlers and the takedown process is completely monitored. We have a huge and constantly growing database of infringer sites, with recipes specialized for each site and country they reside.

But you are right with your opinion, that anybody has to make his/her own decisions.

And my post was not meant to be patronizing ... it was simply my honest opinion ...

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

Depending on the subscription there is no need to find links by the webcam model. We offer automated searches by our crawlers and the takedown process is completely monitored. We have a huge and constantly growing database of infringer sites, with recipes specialized for each site and country they reside.

But you are right with your opinion, that anybody has to make his/her own decisions.

I was referring to using camsites for dmca takedown. Most major camsites offer a take down service if we report links to them.


The tone of your post came across very condescending when I read it but I appreciate that you didn't mean it that way. Just maybe avoid laughing at us while you tell us to get back to the "sexy" stuff and let the real experts handle this. Your honest opinion is fine but how you phrase it is everything.


**Editing to add** I have idea why my phone keeps turning dmca to dcma but I just noticed it

 

[JoleneBrody]

Depending on the subscription there is no need to find links by the webcam model. We offer automated searches by our crawlers and the takedown process is completely monitored. We have a huge and constantly growing database of infringer sites, with recipes specialized for each site and country they reside.

But you are right with your opinion, that anybody has to make his/her own decisions.

And my post was not meant to be patronizing ... it was simply my honest opinion ...

You’re getting a little pushy/spammy now.

 

[DMCA-fr]

Lol ... I am never condescending when it comes to adult business and sex work ...

I really love it what you all do and I am proud to be a guest from time to time. I know that business, because I started my own business because a good friend asked me for help.

You can read the whole story in this post:
https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/posts/957896/

 

[DMCA-fr]

You’re getting a little pushy/spammy now.

Ok ... stopped

 

[DMCA-fr]

The tone of your post came across very condescending when I read it but I appreciate that you didn't mean it that way. Just maybe avoid laughing at us while you tell us to get back to the "sexy" stuff and let the real experts handle this. Your honest opinion is fine but how you phrase it is everything.

Ok one last reply to make things a bit clearer: I'm no native English speaker ... so some of my posts may sound a bit strange ... lol
I do my best to be honest and polite, because I really respect all sex workers!

And the laughing was meant self-ironic because I have not the skills nor the beauty to be a webcam model, to be honest, I'm a 58 y/o grandpa who wears glasses, is too slim and sometimes too chatty ... I simply love one of your colleagues and support her in any way possible.

Sorry for the wrong impression.

 

[briandf255]

As a customer, for me the most fun part of a cam show is the interaction with the model, not the show itself. Recorded cam shows are missing that element and frankly, they are boring. I doubt many paying customers watch recordings, because it's just not the same. A recording of a cam show can't replace an interactive live performance. I suspect recorded shows only do it for people who just want to see "porn" and those are the people that would happily sit in a chat room without paying anyways, because there is no reason for them to pay it they don't want the model to acknowledge them or to do their requests.

So if you're worried about lost customers or lost income, I don't think being recorded does as much damage as you'd think. On the other hand, if your concern is privacy and being discovered by people you know in real life, then it's something you have to think about and decide whether you should keep on camming or not.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

Ok one last reply to make things a bit clearer: I'm no native English speaker ... so some of my posts may sound a bit strange ... lol
I do my best to be honest and polite, because I really respect all sex workers!

And the laughing was meant self-ironic because I have not the skills nor the beauty to be a webcam model, to be honest, I'm a 58 y/o grandpa who wears glasses, is too slim and sometimes too chatty ... I simply love one of your colleagues and support her in any way possible.

Sorry for the wrong impression.

Thanks for explaining. English as a second language is tough. No harm done!

 

[Mintx]

You are going to be recorded.

You are probably going to be found out by friends and family.

There's no way around it.