A question on custom videos (very law-related) - manyvids/clips4sale etc.

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So there's a model I met on streamate who is pretty fun playing with and I found out she has a manyvids account. Naturally, recording live/private sessions is not allowed so I was delighted to see that she had a manyvids store. Manyvids allows you to commission a custom video for a certain fixed rate decided by the model. But my question is this, if I were to ask a model on that site to do a custom video would that make me a producer under 18 U.S.C Section 2257? If so, I don't think it's worth the trouble. I think Section 2257A defines a producer as someone who "directs" as well even if I had no hand in taping/recording, etc. But this seems strange to me; I'm sure there are thousands on sites like c4s and manyvids who have paid for custom videos, are they all required to maintain records as a result of the model they commissioned, since they're technically producers under section 2257? Sorry, this might seem like a really dumb question but I'm a very cautious person and have never paid for a custom on sites like c4s or manyvids so im a bit nervous. And I know how convoluted our legal code is at times and would prefer not to ruin my life over something so menial. Thanks for any help.
 

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But my question is this, if I were to ask a model on that site to do a custom video would that make me a producer under 18 U.S.C Section 2257?
It makes you a customer.
 
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You are in no way producing porn by requesting a custom.
See that's what I thought but then I read this interesting little clause:


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“producing” means producing, directing, manufacturing, issuing, publishing, or advertising; [18 U.S. Code Sec. 2256]

Wouldn't I technically be directing if I tell a model what to do in a custom video? By the way, thanks for the responses.
 

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See that's what I thought but then I read this interesting little clause:


(3)
“producing” means producing, directing, manufacturing, issuing, publishing, or advertising; [18 U.S. Code Sec. 2256]

Wouldn't I technically be directing if I tell a model what to do in a custom video? By the way, thanks for the responses.
Requesting =/= directing.

You're fine. Buy a custom. :)
 
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Requesting =/= directing.

You're fine. Buy a custom. :)
lol thanks you've helped mollify my oh so fragile temperament. But I just imagine some officious little prick of a lawyer painting someone as a director if there were a case. And I know I must sound like an annoying little troll but I really am this much of a hopeless panic case.
 

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Being a porn producer would be so fun, I would make all kinds of money losing artistic porn if I was rich.
 
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well thanks for the help all. Just gonna wait till this law gets sorted out which is currently being penned as unconstitutional. I guess I could wait a while till some small revisions are made to it.
 

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But I just imagine some officious little prick of a lawyer painting someone as a director if there were a case. And I know I must sound like an annoying little troll but I really am this much of a hopeless panic case.
You don't sound like an annoying troll so much as a paranoid dude with some kind of guilty conscience. If you feel you're being watched by people who would call up a lawyer to try to start a scuffle with you about some innocent porn purchases, I guess you got bigger fish to fry.
 

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You walk into a diner and request a half roast beef half turkey sandwich with provolone cheese. You want lettuce, tomato, onion, and hot peppers on it. The bun needs to be gluten free whole wheat lightly spread with pesto sauce and then vinaigrette drizzled all over. Be sure to Panini press the whole thing and serve with a nice Greek salad. Dressing on the side please.

You just ordered a custom lunch. It doesn't mean you're the cook.
 
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You don't sound like an annoying troll so much as a paranoid dude with some kind of guilty conscience. If you feel you're being watched by people who would call up a lawyer to try to start a scuffle with you about some innocent porn purchases, I guess you got bigger fish to fry.
Nah my uncle was a lawyer (when he was still around) and he used to always warn me about keeping my nose clean. And no real guilt, I've signed up for numerous porn sites like Brazzers, NA, Realitykings, etc., but have never used sites like c4s or manyvids so naturally i was hesitant.
 

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It's smart to be cautious. However, we have been doing this a long time. I love making customs and made over half my income off customs last month. I think it's safe to say we understand the legalities of this. Every girl in this thread has been in this business for years and I truly promise you that you are going to be fine. We get requests and customs all the time, we still produce and direct everything we create. Anything that is out of line legally falls on us.

Based on your paranoia, I'm not sure how you'd feel but there is another option and that is finding this girl's contact email or Twitter and seeing if she does custom videos in exchange for Amazon gift cards, 90% of us do. You wouldn't have done it through a site that way. Not sure if that's something you'd be an interested in but it is an option.
 
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It's smart to be cautious. However, we have been doing this a long time. I love making customs and made over half my income off customs last month. I think it's safe to say we understand the legalities of this. Every girl in this thread has been in this business for years and I truly promise you that you are going to be fine. We get requests and customs all the time, we still produce and direct everything we create. Anything that is out of line legally falls on us.

Based on your paranoia, I'm not sure how you'd feel but there is another option and that is finding this girl's contact email or Twitter and seeing if she does custom videos in exchange for Amazon gift cards, 90% of us do. You wouldn't have done it through a site that way. Not sure if that's something you'd be an interested in but it is an option.
No worries you probably know more about this stuff than I do hehe
 
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You walk into a diner and request a half roast beef half turkey sandwich with provolone cheese. You want lettuce, tomato, onion, and hot peppers on it. The bun needs to be gluten free whole wheat lightly spread with pesto sauce and then vinaigrette drizzled all over. Be sure to Panini press the whole thing and serve with a nice Greek salad. Dressing on the side please.

You just ordered a custom lunch. It doesn't mean you're the cook.
That imagery....screw the vids, i want a sandwich XD
 
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