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Holy hell this woman is fucking crazy! I saw her on dr phil the other day and on the news.The poor kid if he lies or gets a pink slip he is punished brutally by having to hold hot sauce in his mouth for I think atleast 2 mins then after that a freezing cold shower! This bitch is crazy I hope she gets more than a year for her having treated her child that way!
 
I saw that episode a while ago. I cried A LOT during it. I ended up shutting it off because I felt sick to my stomach. If I remember correctly it was an adopted child and she said that he had behavior problems. All I could think was he is NOT the one with the problems. She is. How sick.
 
I watched the whole thing with shivers going up and down my spine and jaw dropped as I watched her do this to him and his screaming was painful to me. I mean children are frustrating fuck yea they are.All a misbehaving child needs ais a 1 swift spank to the bum and a stern talking to to get through them.Some need a softer approach to the talking part buy yea not hot sauce or cold showers. The only time to give a child a cold shower is when his fever is bad just to get it down a little more (an awesome trick I learn from my mom and it makes them feel awesome, made me feel awesome).

But yea this bitch is crazy.
 
Lydia_Deetz said:
I read about her! I think she was generally a bit mentally ill to begin with. Kids are tough to raise and parent but yeah hot sauce is not the answer!
She claimed she was on her last straw,that nothing worked with the little boy he still lied and got into fights. Well you know I know it isn't a good behaviour but kids fight. I am not saying she should sdo nothing about that but not hot sauce and ice cold shower man not cool.She also claimed she was so fustrated with him. Ugh!
 
yeah that episode of doctor phil churned my stomach a bit... no child deserves that type of punishment...even as naughty or whatever disorder that russian kid had...
 
JerMajesty said:
yeah that episode of doctor phil churned my stomach a bit... no child deserves that type of punishment...even as naughty or whatever disorder that russian kid had...
No shit if he has special needs she needs to get him checked out and learn how to deal with him a child with special needs does not need to be abused.
 
That severe of a punishment is too far out of line, as was said before, a swat to the posterior and a stern talking to is all that really needs to happen. On a side note, my kids love hot sauce as much as I do, so that would be more of a treat to them. I have to buy Frank's Red Hot sauce by the gallon, and that's a purchase that I make at least once a month.
 
sxycherrypie said:
I watched the whole thing with shivers going up and down my spine and jaw dropped as I watched her do this to him and his screaming was painful to me.
And what sicko is holding a camera instead helping the kid?!?!?
 
Traditio said:
sxycherrypie said:
I watched the whole thing with shivers going up and down my spine and jaw dropped as I watched her do this to him and his screaming was painful to me.
And what sicko is holding a camera instead helping the kid?!?!?


it was another kid..hot sauces moms daughter that was holding the camera and filming...

if it was the doctor phil crew that was filming that hot sauce thing, they wouldve stopped....
 
I watched (or tried to watch) this episode & I can't really say I've ever been pushed that far with my kid and she's a fucking handful. :? I hope she gets some help & that kid gets some damn therapy.
 
GreatDane said:
That severe of a punishment is too far out of line, as was said before, a swat to the posterior and a stern talking to is all that really needs to happen. On a side note, my kids love hot sauce as much as I do, so that would be more of a treat to them. I have to buy Frank's Red Hot sauce by the gallon, and that's a purchase that I make at least once a month.

My kid loves wasabi lol. He put his hand on my food then licked his hand he screamed lol and then he wanted some more haha.
 
Frankie said:
I watched (or tried to watch) this episode & I can't really say I've ever been pushed that far with my kid and she's a fucking handful. :? I hope she gets some help & that kid gets some damn therapy.
Me to me to Frankie.. Iam worried for that little boy.I just think the kids need to be removed and be found a new mother that willtake care of them.
 
From what I've seen of the foster system, I don't think it would be better if the child was taken away. The mother needs to get her shit figured out/get help & be heavily monitored while taking care of her children though to make sure something like that NEVER happens again.

Also, I'm wondering: where is the dad or other family members in all this? Usually if the father isn't in the picture a grandparent or sibling steps up to help out & surely would have noticed/reported this behavior.
 
The child doesn't need top be raised with someone constantly hovering over the mothers shoulders.After the mother gets help and she doesn't improve iam sure there is a good mother out there that will take this child in.I thought the dad said on Dr phil that he came up with the hot sauce idea and that he filmed it all.
 
sxycherrypie said:
The child doesn't need to be raised with someone constantly hovering over the mothers shoulders. After the mother gets help and she doesn't improve iam sure there is a good mother out there that will take this child in.I thought the dad said on Dr phil that he came up with the hot sauce idea and that he filmed it all.

My mother was a Juvenal probation officer for 38 years. For the last 10 or 12 years of that time she was in charge of both foster care and group home placement for our county. Most of the kids on her caseload were 12-15 years old, but there were some as young as 8 or 9.

I remember after dinner one night, when I was about 12 years old, a conversation my mother had with my father. What I remember most vividly was the distress my mother seemed to be in as she explained the circumstances of an eight year old boy she was going to have to place. The child's mother was psychotic in spells, and had more bad days than good. A condition today, that would probably be diagnosed as bipolar disorder. The child had been running away and in and out of the Juvenal hall since he was six.

My mother had been assigned to his case and had been working with the mother and courts for over a year I think. One of the abusive acts the mother was pron to, was beating the boy with a section of hot wheels track. The final straw that had forced my mother to recommend placement in a foster home was the boy's mother burning him in numerous places with a lite cigarette.

What I remember most of all about that night was how bewildered I was at my mothers apparent misgivings about having this child put in a foster home. She explained that placement in foster care or a group home was always the last thing one should do. If a relative or anyone who already had a relationship with the child could be found that would take custody it was not so bad. But it was her belief that the trauma of removing a child of that age was often as bad or worse than the abuse they suffered at home.

That in its self sounds crazy, but you have to think about the bond that exist between mother and child, even an abusive mother. It is easy as a grown adult to understand how much better off the kid would be, in even the often sub standard care, of a foster parent. But the emotional maturity of a young child is much different than the understanding of an adult.

The point I am trying to make, is that the situations depicted on the Dr. Phill show and others like it are very simplified. Although 100% true stories, they are scripted to fit in an hour or a half hour long T.V. show, and to emotionally pull at our heart strings.

Any one not feeling sympathy, and compassion for a child in a situation such as this, would be as crazy as the mother. But things are often much more complicated than what can be put in the space of one Dr. Phill show. And If there is some hope that the mother can be fixed, or some other family member can step in, it is most surely better than removing the child from his home.

Also being sure there is a good mother out there that will take in a kid in this instances, I think might be overly hopeful.


nurture and propagate kindness and expose and refuse to tolerate that which is not kind.
sirwanksabit.
 
camstory said:
sxycherrypie said:
The child doesn't need to be raised with someone constantly hovering over the mothers shoulders. After the mother gets help and she doesn't improve iam sure there is a good mother out there that will take this child in.I thought the dad said on Dr phil that he came up with the hot sauce idea and that he filmed it all.

My mother was a Juvenal probation officer for 38 years. For the last 10 or 12 years of that time she was in charge of both foster care and group home placement for our county. Most of the kids on her caseload were 12-15 years old, but there were some as young as 8 or 9.

I remember after dinner one night, when I was about 12 years old, a conversation my mother had with my father. What I remember most vividly was the distress my mother seemed to be in as she explained the circumstances of an eight year old boy she was going to have to place. The child's mother was psychotic in spells, and had more bad days than good. A condition today, that would probably be diagnosed as bipolar disorder. The child had been running away and in and out of the Juvenal hall since he was six.

My mother had been assigned to his case and had been working with the mother and courts for over a year I think. One of the abusive acts the mother was pron to, was beating the boy with a section of hot wheels track. The final straw that had forced my mother to recommend placement in a foster home was the boy's mother burning him in numerous places with a lite cigarette.

What I remember most of all about that night was how bewildered I was at my mothers apparent misgivings about having this child put in a foster home. She explained that placement in foster care or a group home was always the last thing one should do. If a relative or anyone who already had a relationship with the child could be found that would take custody it was not so bad. But it was her belief that the trauma of removing a child of that age was often as bad or worse than the abuse they suffered at home.

That in its self sounds crazy, but you have to think about the bond that exist between mother and child, even an abusive mother. It is easy as a grown adult to understand how much better off the kid would be, in even the often sub standard care, of a foster parent. But the emotional maturity of a young child is much different than the understanding of an adult.

The point I am trying to make, is that the situations depicted on the Dr. Phill show and others like it are very simplified. Although 100% true stories, they are scripted to fit in an hour or a half hour long T.V. show, and to emotionally pull at our heart strings.

Any one not feeling sympathy, and compassion for a child in a situation such as this, would be as crazy as the mother. But things are often much more complicated than what can be put in the space of one Dr. Phill show. And If there is some hope that the mother can be fixed, or some other family member can step in, it is most surely better than removing the child from his home.

Also being sure there is a good mother out there that will take in a kid in this instances, I think might be overly hopeful.


nurture and propagate kindness and expose and refuse to tolerate that which is not kind.
sirwanksabit.
This is well said.But if the mother seeks help and it doesn't work and she's still doing this I would have that child removed immidiatly and be given to some nice person who will love and cherish the boy.And I feel for the biy your mom had to pull away form his mother but he is better off =D well said bro well said. :clap:
 
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I think the point everyone is trying to make is that this mom does indeed suck. The naivety of thinking that taking him away to go live with some fictional cookie baking fairy godmother is inaccurate.

Many children placed in foster care are abused and neglected as well. I have a little bit of real world experience with this (I wont go into detail) and I think this situation just sucks all around. :icon-cry:
 
Lydia_Deetz said:
I think the point everyone is trying to make is that this mom does indeed suck. The naivety of thinking that taking him away to go live with some fictional cookie baking fairy godmother is inaccurate.

Many children placed in foster care are abused and neglected as well. I have a little bit of real world experience with this (I wont go into detail) and I think this situation just sucks all around. :icon-cry:
Agreed it is true.Wish there weren't so many crooked people out there. My logic is hey if you don't want a baby ever keep your legs close and it is also called a condom and other birth control. Hell wiat till your 21 and txes come in to get your shit removed.
And I am not saying he will go to a perfect cookie baking family just some where a woman whom will be his new mother will treat him as if he was her own ya know.But yea the overall situation just sucks ass.And haha the bitch is going to jail for a year!!!
 
sxycherrypie said:
Lydia_Deetz said:
I think the point everyone is trying to make is that this mom does indeed suck. The naivety of thinking that taking him away to go live with some fictional cookie baking fairy godmother is inaccurate.

Many children placed in foster care are abused and neglected as well. I have a little bit of real world experience with this (I wont go into detail) and I think this situation just sucks all around. :icon-cry:
Agreed it is true.Wish there weren't so many crooked people out there. My logic is hey if you don't want a baby ever keep your legs close and it is also called a condom and other birth control. Hell wiat till your 21 and txes come in to get your shit removed.
And I am not saying he will go to a perfect cookie baking family just some where a woman whom will be his new mother will treat him as if he was her own ya know.But yea the overall situation just sucks ass.And haha the bitch is going to jail for a year!!!
The sad fact tho is that the foster care system is flooded with children that need placed, but not enough are wanting to step up and help take care of those children.
 
GreatDane said:
sxycherrypie said:
Lydia_Deetz said:
I think the point everyone is trying to make is that this mom does indeed suck. The naivety of thinking that taking him away to go live with some fictional cookie baking fairy godmother is inaccurate.

Many children placed in foster care are abused and neglected as well. I have a little bit of real world experience with this (I wont go into detail) and I think this situation just sucks all around. :icon-cry:
Agreed it is true.Wish there weren't so many crooked people out there. My logic is hey if you don't want a baby ever keep your legs close and it is also called a condom and other birth control. Hell wiat till your 21 and txes come in to get your shit removed.
And I am not saying he will go to a perfect cookie baking family just some where a woman whom will be his new mother will treat him as if he was her own ya know.But yea the overall situation just sucks ass.And haha the bitch is going to jail for a year!!!
The sad fact tho is that the foster care system is flooded with children that need placed, but not enough are wanting to step up and help take care of those children.
Sadly. sometimes I wish there was a law out there that if you wanted to have a baby or something you need to be mentally and emotionally evaluated to make sure you are fit to have a child.
 
sxycherrypie said:
Sadly. sometimes I wish there was a law out there that if you wanted to have a baby or something you need to be mentally and emotionally evaluated to make sure you are fit to have a child.

Part of me agrees with this. Part of me knows that if such a law existed in 1984, I would not. Which is better- that I not exist to go through the shit I did, or that I became the person I did because of the shit and have gone on to make many men very happy for a little while?

We do the best we can, but whether to take the child out of the house is a very tough choice indeed. Not wanting to hijack the thread, I will simply say anyone interested in my story can find it fairly easily.
 
Just a couple of points that I don't believe have been mentioned:

The child was adopted from a Russian orphanage.

The mother inflicted this punishment and did so on video in order to get on Dr. Phil's show.
 
Sevrin said:
The mother inflicted this punishment and did so on video in order to get on Dr. Phil's show.
If that is true then in my point of view the Dr.Phil-Show maker are partly guilty too.
If inhumanity to get some kind of sicko publicity leads to exactly that publicity it will repeat.
Give idiots a platform and you will find a lot more idiots...
 
Traditio said:
Sevrin said:
The mother inflicted this punishment and did so on video in order to get on Dr. Phil's show.
If that is true

The Beagleys adopted the boy in the video and his brother when they were 5 years old.

Beagley emailed the "Dr. Phil" show a year later, in 2009, in an effort to appear on a segment titled "Angry Moms," the prosecution said. More than a year later, the producers replied and encouraged her to send video. Beagley did, but the producers asked her to send additional video of her doling out punishment, Franklin said.

The show promoted the resulting Nov. 17 "Mommy Confessions" segment with clips of the boy screaming, Beagley saying she felt "out of control" and images of audience members in tears.

"Can this stressed-out mom get the guidance she needs to control her temper and reform her discipline techniques?" asked the show's website, teasing the episode. "Can she establish a bond with her son? And, do her actions constitute child abuse? ... It's an intense Dr. Phil you don't want to miss!"
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