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But it’s true, it’s happening to me, but now I know how to deal with it, now I know how to face it, bravely, as it always has in my life, I believe all camgirls are very brave girls and we should never have to face the discrimination.

If you’re a guy you’re probably thinking that I’m facing another kind of discrimination, not what you’re thinking, in this world there are very different preferences and tastes so there’s always space for models who are chubby, skinnier, darker, no boobs, big butts, redheads, I mean there is literally an audience for all different girls and that’s amazing, I love it even though I know I’m like the girl next door, I’m happy for these girls! But no, this is not discrimination I’m being victimized, to be honest, with users I’ve never felt discriminated, usually they go straight to the type of girls they like and if you don’t like my body or something you jump to the next model and everything is fine.
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The discrimination that me and tons of girls are feeling is stupid like a price tag that this site added on us oh but they did it, they added a price tag on EU girls, the price is 0$ while american girls are 10$, resuming we are trash and american girls are gold, and in fact, they want to make us feel that way. I’ve seen so many things wrong, girls working with different rules on the same site, some of them can show all the nudity they want but for us we get banned easily with a little distraction, lately we are getting banned even for not being responsible for reporting scammers, so , the 30% we took includes the work they were supposed to do for us.

I’m talking about this not for camgirls to hear, but this time to get guys’ attention, EU girls are facing discrimination, our profiles are being hidden from viewers and payers and you have no idea why that girl didn’t even show up on the site for y’all in months while US girls earn 300$ in a day same latin girls don’t make 50$ in a day, and you ask “what’s the problem with EU girls?” Exactly, I want to ask the same question.

Ironically, this text was written by me, as you can see I am a latin girl who speaks English, and like me there are many more girls in Europe who speak good English, well not as a native, of course, the native will always be better than us, but I’ve been working since I was 16 in tourist places where I speak English 99% of the time and no one has ever complained lol, so I’m trying to figure out the core issue of this mess: if I speak English, why am I hiding from english countries speaking? Interesting.

So, regarding this situation, a few months ago I decided to start contacting the support of the website that I was broadcasting, with the naive hope that they would listen to me, I can say that so far I have reached all the members of the team that are just a few as far as I could understand, and
every time i talked to them it was always the same empty answers or sometimes i wasn’t getting answers at all. My arguments have always been the same and I will organize them in a few topics:

. Why have I been hidden from English speaking spectators when it’s the only language I can speak here? I don’t want to speak Portuguese? Portugal is blocked, right?! And I have the right to geo-block the country where I live right? It’s my privacy! So, let me get this straight, do you offer psychological counseling to the girls here, hypocritically say you care about us but advise us not to block the place where we live knowing the risks we run in doing it!?

.Have I lost the right to my privacy since I don’t want to be recognized in Portugal and to stream in Portugal, because I don’t feel comfortable speaking my native language with people I have many chances to meet in person?

.Let me enlighten you and ask you ironically if English is a world language that everyone learns all over the world. Because to me it seems a very rude thing to push models away from English-speaking countries when you know that they prefer to speak their second language, thus avoiding speaking their native language and being recognized, because as you know Spain, Malta, Greece, Gibraltar, Portugal and Italy do not have each one the same large demographics that English-speaking countries have and in Brazil the medium salary is the equivalent of 238 dolar, so do you believe they will pay what for a show?! If they just come here to the website is a luck!You are fun!

.Why do i earn 30% only when USA girls earn 35%?! Are they superior to EU girls?!

.Why there are girls using fuck machines on public chats and as i read on the rules nudity is just allowed from the waist up?

.Did i read sleeping on cam was not allowed? Lol, check your girls.

And now, you can prepare your cheeks and laugh about all situation, all the team members was replying me always the same :

.USA girls have USA flag because they come from USA. (I am asking about the traffic loves, i dont care about the flag, but talking about that, i am able to change my flag from anywhere on the world on any website i am!, you are special for sure)

.You have 45% viewers from the US and the other percentage from Italy (at that time I was showing the Italian flag) to which I reply “yes, and that 45% is saving my life, because Italians don’t speak English and I don’t speak Italian!”
So I think it’s weird, I’m lying anyway about my country origin and customers notice because I don’t speak Italian, if customers were English they would never notice, but you guys created this situation. So, wouldn’t it be smarter to let the girls choose the languages they speak and on that basis organize their traffic?!! And they say “oh but you already have good traffic”, and I said “no I don’t, if I charge more than 1.99$ minute my traffic goes to zero and I’ll do it to show you once again !! (Even when im pretty sure you already know that). I remember when i was chatting with american girls on forums and not knowing i was from europe they advised me the minimum fees i should charge should be 4.99$ minute so to check if they were being honest i created a customer account and i was checking what american girls charge and that was true, the very low i saw was 4.99$ for private and 5.99$ for exclusive, but usually girls charged 10.99$ for every minute and i was shocked when i decided to take a look at latin or European girls, they could be the prettiest girl you ever seen, they wouldn’t charge more than 2.99$!! So going back to the point where I tried for a few days between tears, I charged 4.99$, what happened? Zero traffic, no privates, no exclusives, no golds, I even lost regular customers that day and had 2 privates in 2 days, when I thought I was broadcasting long enough to have enough evidence to shut the site members up, I emailed them again and guess what? The respect I got back from my sweat and tears was zero, no response when I asked “so my traffic is good?! While a US girl can charge 4.99$ minimum and always have spectators my room is a ghost town when i do the same, why?”

When they get to a point with no return they just finished that conversation When they reach a point of no return and they’ve exhausted all the answers, they just finished the conversation with no answers, I had a girl on the staff saying they care about me lol I think they probably can’t assume they’re discriminating in written words or I could use it in a lawsuit, but she doesn’t care, otherwise she wouldn’t answer me saying:

. They changed the traffic and the flag to protect the spectators, they said (what a LOL), they explained to me that some spectators in the past were complaining about the girls hiding their true nationality (what a silly answer)! All the girls still hide the true information about them LOL, they do it to protect themselves but we camgirls are not dumb, i won’t say i’m from masachusets if i don’t know anything about masachusets i’ll create a compelling story about where i come from, sometimes with a few glimpses with true of course, what i do for a living, if i have kids or a husband, we don’t give the GPS coordinates of our house to the viewers! Sure! So, if there were girls with the US flag not even speaking English, as i was told, their problem was with the language, not exactly with the lie, but of course when some unethical companies do a mess, they won’t take over, they will not treat you like a human because they’re arrogant and they will not admit the guilt or lack of ethic, especially if you’re a girl in the adult industry. The most shocking thing is that the team i spoke with was made up of girls, so when i asked how absolutely non sense their answers were and how incredibly rude they were when they couldn’t take a stand on our situation, especially when they’re women, they had no answers for me. But the funniest thing of all was, the lie didn’t end here, think about it girls, who are they protecting? I had complaints everyday from Italian guys asking why i had the Italian flag if i don’t speak Italian, and when i explained to them of course not telling the whole truth, feeling afraid of a permanent SM ban, they understood , but try to imagine how upsetting it can be to have to apologize all the time for a situation you can’t really control (at that time i was saying sorry about 40 times a day, i was ending days crying with stress and saturation of course). So i tried Spain, it was the same, Malta (which no one nor i knew where it was) was the same, Greece i won’t even try because im sure as hell i don’t speak Greek, i have tried every country that was available to me even not making any sense that random options, i ended up deleting my geoblock and adding the flag of Gibraltar, as no one knew where it was and some people got curious and came to my room. I was still without traffic but at least, as Gibraltar is a place that nobody knows and very small, nobody complained that i didn’t speak the language because nobody really lived there! Lol, this has gotten to this point!

So, they said in their oun words theyre protecting customers, but how they protect a model with all these differences?

Lets put it like this:

I have lights (softboxes), decoration all over my room (bed, pillows, teddy bears, flowers, lamps, mirrors, curtains, leds, all in colors mostly pink, white and light blue), I have logitech c920, a great quality microphone (I don’t use the camera microphone), I have tripods for the camera to use at different angles, the best and appropriate computer for streaming, a bluetooth keyboard, a bluetooth mouse, lovense, a lot of sexy toys and clothes and different, an internet deco to have a better connection, a speaker with immense quality to have ambient music.
About me, I exercise, I’m like the “girl next door” , good makeup, long brown hair, shiny and hydrated skin, tanned skin, my attitude is always smiling, fun and playful, I’m open-minded, I’m not shy, I speak a great English and all my ratings and comments are good. Quality for me is important so if I’m having a bad day I won’t broadcast to look bored on camera, I’d rather skip that day but… I’ve seen US camgirls with bad decor, bad lighting and no attitude getting money faster and charging 15$ per minute, and I’ve seen European girls with a stunning beauty, good decor, good camera, good attitude, to the point of almost crying on camera, to be honest and shameless, it happened to me, i can admit i cried on camera not showing my face of course, just trying to hide showing my body and teasing and avoiding crying for a lot of times, i felt humiliated, sad and lost, my tears flowed, you can’t imagine how frustrating it is to know that you have what it takes to be successful, to know that you’re doing everything to be successful, but a bunch of bad people decided to steal your right as a woman and humiliate you just because you’re not American.

How hypocritical are they being when they have a supposed "Pineapple Support" when the main reason for the models: stress, degradation and sadness, is their empty and meaningless decisions? How hypocritical are they about having a FOSTA to report serious issues that could happen with a model, when they are probably committing a serious mistake like DISCRIMINATION? Lol This is serious guys. I wouldn’t even care about the 30% we get, well i mean 35% because there’s no valid reason to treat people differently or give them a different percentage based on their country of origin, that’s another pretty cruel and pointless point. But can how can i get conformed with that 30% i earn if i don’t get a reply for a fair question with honesty and respect from this site?

This is like you having a normal job and getting disrespected when you’re a foreign, well, because you’re a foreign! Justice is not in abundance on the world but that shouldnt even be an excuse for making it happen with you with no consequences, we should have our income agreeding with the time we dedicate to our jobs, the effort and quality, we should never feel humiliated because we have a certain origin.

And just to finish my thought, how do you believe these people who manage streamate are ethical when right in the middle of a pandemic 1 year ago they decided to make this change and make some models lose what they believed to be their dream job for many years suddenly? In the middle of the pandemic?! Seriously? Is this pure selfishness, unbridled greed or just meanness?

Meanwhile, all camgirls have supported European camgirls in this case with some advice, obviously in the middle of this vents and in this fight we found some really xenophobic people, I leave you the most shocking things I’ve heard in the last few months, to make you think a little about what we still living on the XXI century:

.European girls are lazy and don’t work as hard as American girls.

.Europeans are not so smart.

.American women have more personality than European women who are boring.

English speaking countries have more money because people work there more while in Ukraine or Portugal people are lazy.

.Conclusion: we don’t need to be protected, customers do, we deal with sexism, drunk men, arrogant men and threats from possible stalkers every week but we don’t need protection, we are mere sources of money for prejudiced and malicious people. Only that​
 

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I'm sorry, I haven't read your whole post because it's very long and I struggle with attention span (ADHD) haha. But I get the gist and you're saying there's an unfair bias towards "Western" native English speaking girls. And I agree 100%, can't imagine how shit that must feel in your position.

I don't know if I agree with you that it's the sites' fault though. Sure, I agree it's highly unethical of them but at the end of the day they're just after the most money they can get. The real blame surely should be on members (reflecting society's attitudes as a whole) because they are the ones choosing to only support native-English-speaking models and models from their own countries.

I guess it's a positive feedback loop but at the start of that loop is members preferring UK/US models > site realises they can get even more money by treating those models better > members begin to only really see UK/US models and therefore end up tipping them more > site profits more than they would if they made it fair.

I truly don't understand WHY members have these preferences though aside from blatant racism/xenophobia. It's really shitty.
 
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I'm sorry, I haven't read your whole post because it's very long and I struggle with attention span (ADHD) haha. But I get the gist and you're saying there's an unfair bias towards "Western" native English speaking girls. And I agree 100%, can't imagine how shit that must feel in your position.

I don't know if I agree with you that it's the sites' fault though. Sure, I agree it's highly unethical of them but at the end of the day they're just after the most money they can get. The real blame surely should be on members (reflecting society's attitudes as a whole) because they are the ones choosing to only support native-English-speaking models and models from their own countries.

I guess it's a positive feedback loop but at the start of that loop is members preferring UK/US models > site realises they can get even more money by treating those models better > members begin to only really see UK/US models and therefore end up tipping them more > site profits more than they would if they made it fair.

I truly don't understand WHY members have these preferences though aside from blatant racism/xenophobia. It's really shitty.


Hey Sasha. First thank for being so polite on your reply, since i am experienced not always this empathy :)

I dont believe it is about the customers options or them being a little racist, i tell you, i was an escort for 1 year and i know that customers likes to vary and that means they like to vary the type of show you give or the girl type, they like to experience different ethnicities and of course like we girls they have for sure their preferences, i am European and i never dated an European guy just because i have a certain tendency to feel atracted for latin guys and with guys happens the same, they for sure have their own tendencies for blondes or ebony girls, well we know... But thats not the question at all, i have been on the top of pages on certain websites, that doesnt work with flags and i observed that the traffic that comes for you depends on your placement on the website. So Streamate is hidding deliberately all europeans and latins from english speaking countries, forgeting that english is the most speaked language on the world so on that way taking all the options models had to have a normal conversation wen ith a customer taking him for a private. Is true some girls told me they have a really accentuated accent and felt some discrimination about it, but well thats a different story, most of girls who are complaining speaks a perfect english and like me never had a single complaint about it, so if they would organize their traffic with languages we are willing to speak on our shows would be much more fair. But, even with all that i am waiting for months to hear whats their excuse for paying an higher percentage to american girls while they just pay us 30%, a girl told me "oh, we have more expenses" oh really? lol, i have family on Masachusets and on a few places of America and i can ensure the expenses are very similar, i had that work, compare bills, went that crazy :D. But anyway that is crazy and i hope SM never have that arrogance to say, "oh we pay more to americans because they deserve more" because on this mess thats whats missing to make me go away from them.

I just wanted to laugh when they spoked about Brasil, brasilian people are really poor, lovely people but really poor, they earn around 240 dolars monthly and one rent is about 350$ dolars, yes i know, is an impossible math but happens there, there are lawyers migrating to make cleanings and earn more on USA countries for example, so... So far thill now their excuses just made me sick and angry.

But honestly, what is really messing me up lately is feel the big lack of empathy or even finding the racist side on some people, like put all europeans in the same bag and say for reasons i dont know that we are lazy, closed mentality and dumb, this is another level of xenophobia and discrimination, i am struggling working on long shifts on webcam, studying at university and paying my bills all alone, so i know that my struggles doesnt matter but is unfair to say that one culture is in a certain way when thats a big, big lie. This is just the same like saying all brasilians are criminals and like to be poor like ive heard before, and is crazy.
 
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But thats not the question at all, i have been on the top of pages on certain websites, that doesnt work with flags and i observed that the traffic that comes for you depends on your placement on the website.
Actually now that you say that, I get what you mean - SM might be one of the only "big name" camsites that does the flags/filter by country thing. Definitely when I was on MFC, you couldn't tell unless you entered a girl's room which country she was from and that certainly seems more fair!
i am waiting for months to hear whats their excuse for paying an higher percentage to american girls while they just pay us 30% a girl told me "oh, we have more expenses"
I had no idea about this and would love to know what SM if they ever get back to you. In the UK they pay us 35%, I wonder if every country is different or just English speaking vs. all others? That definitely seems wrong of them... maybe it could be something to do with how they have to pay/declare/deal with tax and legalities in different countries though? Otherwise yep, exactly it's totally fucked up! You can't just say the average GDP in country A is higher than country B so we'll pay them more. Everyone's situation is different. Some people have only themselves to look after, some have entire families to support. Some live in cheap areas of the country, others expensive. Some are privileged with a good education, others aren't 🙄
But honestly, what is really messing me up lately is feel the big lack of empathy or even finding the racist side on some people, like put all europeans in the same bag and say for reasons i dont know that we are lazy, closed mentality and dumb, this is another level of xenophobia and discrimination, i am struggling working on long shifts on webcam, studying at university and paying my bills all alone, so i know that my struggles doesnt matter but is unfair to say that one culture is in a certain way when thats a big, big lie. This is just the same like saying all brasilians are criminals and like to be poor like ive heard before, and is crazy.
That really sucks some people aren't sympathetic, I guess it's easy to defend a system that's biased against others as long as it benefits you! Sorry to hear you're struggling and respect to you for speaking up and trying to fight the unfairness. But also you gotta do what's best for you so if it's getting you down, find a site that'll treat you better, there must be good options out there!
 
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Actually now that you say that, I get what you mean - SM might be one of the only "big name" camsites that does the flags/filter by country thing. Definitely when I was on MFC, you couldn't tell unless you entered a girl's room which country she was from and that certainly seems more fair!

I had no idea about this and would love to know what SM if they ever get back to you. In the UK they pay us 35%, I wonder if every country is different or just English speaking vs. all others? That definitely seems wrong of them... maybe it could be something to do with how they have to pay/declare/deal with tax and legalities in different countries though? Otherwise yep, exactly it's totally fucked up! You can't just say the average GDP in country A is higher than country B so we'll pay them more. Everyone's situation is different. Some people have only themselves to look after, some have entire families to support. Some live in cheap areas of the country, others expensive. Some are privileged with a good education, others aren't 🙄

That really sucks some people aren't sympathetic, I guess it's easy to defend a system that's biased against others as long as it benefits you! Sorry to hear you're struggling and respect to you for speaking up and trying to fight the unfairness. But also you gotta do what's best for you so if it's getting you down, find a site that'll treat you better, there must be good options out there!
I am doing that already, i am not streaming on streamate anymore but as i have 30 dolars there and dont want to loose them i am waiting to reach the minimum amount maybe with video selling to close my account there. Didnt just did it before because is an hard decision when you built regulars, comments, reviews and fans and then you realise just doesnt wworth your time :/

And youre right, cost living is something very personal, i know some lucky people who pay so low for a rent here, where i am, but that is rare and the same could happen on each country around the world, they will never be able to adjust the percentage compensation with the cost living models as a basis because all live in different circunstances.

About the taxes, maybe but would be far give an honest reply for that question i made, they didnt had a reply to give me, what make me think that they problably dont have a reason as they tried to give me empty answers for all the rest. Anyway, i just wanted to post this because sometimes i take a look and i see girls from EU or Latin countries struggling hard like i was and i feel so pissed off with that, they are one of the most popular websites and i know, i know by all the conversations i had before american girls can make a lot $$ there, i feel trully happy for them,SM problably would be a good site for everyone like they was before they did this massive change, but look at the example they're giving for adult industry, if everybody would follow these kind of xenophobic guide lines we Europens and latins would be screwed, is possible to say that camming would end for us quickly if all websites decide to controul our traffics with a flag.
 
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I'm sorry, I haven't read your whole post because it's very long and I struggle with attention span (ADHD) haha. But I get the gist and you're saying there's an unfair bias towards "Western" native English speaking girls. And I agree 100%, can't imagine how shit that must feel in your position.

I don't know if I agree with you that it's the sites' fault though. Sure, I agree it's highly unethical of them but at the end of the day they're just after the most money they can get. The real blame surely should be on members (reflecting society's attitudes as a whole) because they are the ones choosing to only support native-English-speaking models and models from their own countries.

I guess it's a positive feedback loop but at the start of that loop is members preferring UK/US models > site realises they can get even more money by treating those models better > members begin to only really see UK/US models and therefore end up tipping them more > site profits more than they would if they made it fair.

I truly don't understand WHY members have these preferences though aside from blatant racism/xenophobia. It's really shitty.
I was with you until the last sentence. I don't think it's fair to say that because a customer has preferences for certain types of models it's always due to racism or xenophobia. Preferences are exactly that, preferences. Why do some people get off on feet? Why are some people into bondage? Why are some people into anal? None of those things appeal to me at all but I don't assume the reason they like them is negative. Sexual preferences frequently have no logical basis, they're emotional and are often not concious choices. Yes there are customers that are racist or xenophobic but you are painting with a very broad brush.
 
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I never worked on this site but for sure what they are doing isnt fair . If they really care about their customers to have english speakers models on the site , then they should make a selection by the language level, not by the country you are from. Like in school. good students getting good grades(comission here ;), bad studest low grades ..:) Used to see this on a french site like 12 y ago, every model who joined had an online interview with admin, they check the level of the model language, if they decided was good model was getting 50% , if not so good 35% if not french at all u coudnt join de site .. anyway there are so manny options for models this days dunno why to stop at one who doesnt apreciate you , anyway livejasmin, chaturbate and big sites created an empire with european models power .... american models are not that manny and guys like also variety .
 
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Sexual preferences frequently have no logical basis, they're emotional and are often not concious choices. Yes there are customers that are racist or xenophobic but you are painting with a very broad brush.
Actually yeah you're completely right, it's much more nuanced than that. I do think that the physical preferences (as opposed to feet fetishes etc) do come from systemic issues though. And they're not necessarily conscious choices but the way society treats race and other factors definitely gets reflected in cam settings
 
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my mom hates that i do this and called it whoreish lol well..... i have a number of mental health disorders and need to make a little more cash i cant handle a normal job and the disability cash i get it not always enough guess i am a little greedy. (sorry) i think most people who do this do have some kinda mental illness at-least this is what one of my viewers said to me....
 
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my mom hates that i do this and called it whoreish lol well..... i have a number of mental health disorders and need to make a little more cash i cant handle a normal job and the disability cash i get it not always enough guess i am a little greedy.
I'm sure my parents would say the same if they found out, I'd say 90% of people see it that way, even the customers. Who gives a shit though? We're earning good money for it.
(sorry) i think most people who do this do have some kinda mental illness at-least this is what one of my viewers said to me....
I don't know if that's fair to say. I think we're just people who see the world a bit differently.
 
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maybe...... however i honestly do have multiple mental health disorders and it sucks sometimes. just saying
I do get what you mean...Not really a mental illness but I have ADHD and am very much a walking cliche of it. Impulsive, dopamine-seeking, reckless... don't doubt that it's to blame for me deciding to get into this. But the way you said it in your first post makes it sound like a bad thing and I really don't see it that way? If anything I'm proud of myself, you should be too. Takes guts, initiative and fucking hard work to do what we do
 
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sorry i am mildly autistic sometimes i don't use the right words... im sorry :(
Lol no worries I just meant it sounded like this customer saying that to you upset you, but if you enjoy camming then fuck his opinion!
 
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I never worked on this site but for sure what they are doing isnt fair . If they really care about their customers to have english speakers models on the site , then they should make a selection by the language level, not by the country you are from. Like in school. good students getting good grades(comission here ;), bad studest low grades ..:) Used to see this on a french site like 12 y ago, every model who joined had an online interview with admin, they check the level of the model language, if they decided was good model was getting 50% , if not so good 35% if not french at all u coudnt join de site .. anyway there are so manny options for models this days dunno why to stop at one who doesnt apreciate you , anyway livejasmin, chaturbate and big sites created an empire with european models power .... american models are not that manny and guys like also variety .
Exactly, you're so right, well im waiting only to cashout the money i still have there to close my account but i guess sometimes and because i just have been this for a year i got scared when i realised all this, feeling afraid that this would be the only chance to make money lol, i know
 
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Totally agree with you, on the "normal" jobs i had i had many, many coleagues with stress, anxiety, depression thanks to the shity bosses i had, yelling and treating you like nothing lol, mental illness is everywhere nowadays, but for me this is more about being open minded and like all people said to me, im a free soul, i think problably all of us who are doing is are a little
 
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my mom hates that i do this and called it whoreish lol well..... i have a number of mental health disorders and need to make a little more cash i cant handle a normal job and the disability cash i get it not always enough guess i am a little greedy. (sorry) i think most people who do this do have some kinda mental illness at-least this is what one of my viewers said to me....
The vast majority of people honestly have no idea of what real mental illness is. Their definition is anyone that is different from them is mentally ill.
You're on a cam site because you're confident enough in yourself to do it. The vast majority of your customers don't have the confidence to even consider it. One on one C2C is as much as they can handle. Since they see themselves as normal and couldn't even imagine exposing themselves emotionally or sexually to hundreds of people many cop out saying you have a mental illness. Otherwise they would have to look at their own insecurities and feelings of inadequacy.
It takes a lot of mental strength and belief in yourself to be a webcam model, you should always be proud of what you do.
 
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Diana_Devil

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That's not true. Everyone gets 35% except Eastern Europe, they get 30%. No, it's not fair but it's not just Americans getting 35%.

Germany , Italy , Switzerland , Spain , Portugal are not in East Europe , are in West Europe and they still take 30 % . Only UK takes 35 % . The rest of us take 30% .
 
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OMG it's not fair! Not only the 5% difference, the overall low cut is bullshit. Please tell me it's not true and there is some catch. Because I had never worked there and it sounds bizarre to me.

The vast majority of people honestly have no idea of what real mental illness is. Their definition is anyone that is different from them is mentally ill.
You're on a cam site because you're confident enough in yourself to do it. The vast majority of your customers don't have the confidence to even consider it. One on one C2C is as much as they can handle. Since they see themselves as normal and couldn't even imagine exposing themselves emotionally or sexually to hundreds of people many cop out saying you have a mental illness. Otherwise they would have to look at their own insecurities and feelings of inadequacy.
It takes a lot of mental strength and belief in yourself to be a webcam model, you should always be proud of what you do.
Exactly, most of the time our typical viewers/customers could not imagine how it really is. Smiley faces and boobs in the camera — only things they see. I've had meltdowns sometimes, especially when I just started camming, and I made a mistake when I didn't turn off the camera immediately and some of my kings saw me crying on camera. Only these few people who saw my true nature got a glance of understanding how it can be. :(
 
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OMG it's not fair! Not only the 5% difference, the overall low cut is bullshit. Please tell me it's not true and there is some catch. Because I had never worked there and it sounds bizarre to me.


Exactly, most of the time our typical viewers/customers could not imagine how it really is. Smiley faces and boobs in the camera — only things they see. I've had meltdowns sometimes, especially when I just started camming, and I made a mistake when I didn't turn off the camera immediately and some of my kings saw me crying on camera. Only these few people who saw my true nature got a glance of understanding how it can be. :(
Its true sweet, ive streamed there for almost 1 year and i can confirm all that, but theres worst, as they can deal with my questions from 1 month till now, i sell videos on many platforms also and ive uploaded there just to check if i get the minimum amount to close my account there and guess what, since i was complaining with them suddenly my pics gots rejected and videos also for excuses that doesnt make any sense, for example? Today i had a video rejected because i had an watermark, but my oldest videos approved there have the same watermark lol! And yesterday they said "another voices detected on your stream" i had my tv on but was very far from where i was recording bathroom, well but that one i could accept that interfers with quality, anyway i am having very normal pictures getting rejected all the time and is curious i have some subscribers on my fanclub and i never receive the monthly subscription amount. Lol.

Well is sad but is true, honestly lately i dont have what is necessary to stream since the war started i have closest and very important people for me in ukraine and i cant sleep or think or have patience to stream but this is my full time job and have to comeback soon and i believe specially now with this happening on Europe they should feel so ashamed about their very xenophobic polices, this is something really primivite and out of date but this is it, some people defends them saying if they earn more on this way they should look for their own interestes, yes, absolutely right but they was online for years and years without this polices and still was one of the biggest camming sites, this is just arrogance and lack of ethic because money is good, all of us love money but there are limits, i believe soon theylll fit the consequences, their bad reputation is growing and the staff is just rude and no helpful.
 
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Lilly_____

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Being a brazilian, this is literally the reason why I left SM. We are worse than trash there. We don't stand a chance.
 
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Wow- I’m a german Model and I’m glad I never worked on this site. I only work on sites where everyone has the same opportunity and above all everyone gets the same share of their earnings. I've had a lot of American customers on Stripchat, many who even thought my accent was really cute or who were even turned on by the fact that I'm german and they encourage me to do dirty talk in german ^^. When times were better (i.e. before inflation), I could easily make $2,000 a week, a lot from foreign clients too. It's a shame that there are still sites that despise us european models and treat us so badly. But I don't think these sites are doing themselves any favors by doing so.
 
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Another one that I'll never work with again is Cam models directory, they're so proud of their All American Girls and that's fair enough but more than one member when asking me for my rate told me it was "too high for a latina", so it's obvious that other nationalities are expected to be cheaper? Fuck them.

Editing to add - one day, god knows why, there must have been a bug and there was an American flag on my profile instead of a Brazilian one. That lasted like a week. During that period, I went from page 12 to page one and made FIVE TIMES the money I used to. So yes, how much money you make there really depends on where you were born, not on how hard you try. I'm not saying American models aren't great - I know that you are! But we don't even have the chance to show that we are too.

That's why as stressful as it may be, I think factors like camscore are so much better. Fair to everyone.
 
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