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Most models that are in the forum Amber working in my free cams.
But I know that some models mfc work for other sites ...
What site better than my free cams? For models and members?
 
I might get a lot of shit for this, but Streamate. I recently tried it out and had a long time reg who had a private idea so I gave him a discount on there. Was awesome for him and I.


Streamate:
-you can buy 15 all the way to 60 minute "block sessions" with a model and get a discount (from the site)
-they recently added tipping
-the model can set her price
-the model do make less % wise, but most are so busy half the time it makes up for it

I'm sure there might be more awesome things (or shitty things) that I don't know about yet. Still pretty new to it, but enjoyed it as much as MFC for the most part.


/end accidental sales pitch
 
There's also sinistercamslive.com, which features alternative girls (piercing, tattoos). JadeRox cams on there from time to time and FrankieChemical used to. :sad10: Now my credits will rot in my wallet on that site forever.
 
Streamate has been very good to me!!
 
Adultwork, it's mainly for brits and you really do need to focus on the Directcam functions but it's so worth it, I made about £60 in an hour. Yay :)
 
the only down side for me when i was active on streamates is the paper check vs direct deposit.. dunno if they changed it now tho

like the new tipping feature

but i like how you can raffle on mfc and promote vids etc streamates didnt allow off site contact such as messengers or wishlists or your personal website
 
I just started working for Video Secrets on flirt4free and all those networks... does anyone know about how they are money wise?
 
I have worked on Video Secrets, from my personal experience you wont make as much money as you can with MFC. Unless they changed it, you can not have any music playing, can not wear name brand clothes if it shows the names, have to hide your drink labels, etc... I have made more on MFC in a Week than I did with VS in a month, not saying you will be the same way but it just didnt work for me. I do wish you the best of luck and you will have to repost to keep us updated how your doing on there.
 
flirt4ree has been a big failure for me...
as candy mentioned they have crazy strict rules that dont really make much sense.. (to me)
it was my first webcam job and it made me have a 6 months break because i disliked the site so much..

its a highly controlling site.. and if youre used to mfc you will go crazy on f4f
also the studio thing isnt my thing at all...

they fine people too easily.. and have no manners..
i left because they closed my account and never replied to the 10 mails i send to them

even my studio manager couldnt do nothing.. all he got as a reply was the mails i send them...
if you hit the succes button you are good at flirt.. but if not its not worth the time and effort...

streammate is good.. just less constant traffic then mfc..
but there are alot less free loaders there...
also you have a phone option which i find pretty cool.. you wont get the members number and they wont get yours

camsathome can be good if you fall into the taste of certain members... (alot less members there compared to mfc)
but the limits for freeloaders are pretty low.. you can send free members a massage every half hour with a message to upgrade their wallet (gets very anoying and makes them either leave or upgrade their wallet)
just as easy to set up as mfc btw...

only f4f and mfc have extern software.. which i like alot better then logging in a webpage...

i tried some other sites too but their not worth mentioning lol...
 
Nikki Ford said:
I just started working for Video Secrets on flirt4free and all those networks... does anyone know about how they are money wise?

they have a 25 % standard payout.. but it can go up or down depending on how well you do... (low % payout because of all the people in between you, and the company, studio managers, promotors etc...)
also please be carefull on there... they fine very easily and it can cost you half your payout...
 
I was told that F4F used to be managed by the same group that manages Playboy sites. This might explain the strict rules about music and labels. You know, because they were using brand names that don't belong to Playboy corp. Maybe a lawsuit. Stupid, but can happen.

Sweetsam said:
Wow I am glad I never worked on F4F. Geez. I had someone ask me to go on F4F when I started on Naked.com. But the guy was kind of annoying about it, so I didn't sign up. Glad I didn't those rules seem a little ridiculous.
I think it was here that someone said that Naked.com only work with studios, therefore models need to sign up through a studio account. Can you confirm this?
 
LilyPink said:
Adultwork, it's mainly for brits and you really do need to focus on the Directcam functions but it's so worth it, I made about £60 in an hour. Yay :)




YES, AdultWork is awesome. :)
 
The_Brown_Fox said:
YES, AdultWork is awesome. :)
I don't know how AdultWork is for the girls, but I don't like the site. The interface is too busy with a lot of options and for 2 months now its servers have become really slow. However, they have some good features and the models can offer many services.



Just_mark__ said:
Does anyone have any user experience of those sites?
Quickly... the sites mentioned in this thread:

Streamate
They are much better than 2-3 years ago. The chat window had some improvements, supporting now smiles and the text seems better to read. The categories list on the sidebar is a handy tool. Streamte has also improved the bandwith and the average stream is faster and clean now. Even those girls broadcating with HD webcam.

F4F
The chat window is huge and gives you more space to the text. Many girls are now broadcasting in High Quality and the stream is really good. However, the VOD, that has a huge collection of videos, seems to have some compression and the videos are not as good as live stream.

Naked.com
Never tried a private there. They don't have many models online. The chat window has a basic interface, but seems to do the job.
 
Nikki Ford said:
I just started working for Video Secrets on flirt4free and all those networks... does anyone know about how they are money wise?

I started working on VS/F4F but moved on after 6 weeks, even after getting model of the week status, and I'll tell you why...they record every single private you have and make it available as a VOD (Video On Demand) for people to purchase, unlike MFC where the private is only archived for the people who are in the private. Although you can set the price for the VOD and make residual income on them, once you become "inactive" on the site you no longer receive the VOD revenue. So, they continue making money off you long after you are gone. I can check my stats on the site and see how much money I "would" have made has I remained active and it just makes me sick.

After VS/F4F I moved to Streamate and while I don't love everything about the site structure, it is absolutely awesome. I won't repeat everything that has already been mentioned by other posters but I will say that their customer service and video quality are unbeatable (HD baby!). Also, there is POTENTIAL to make more than what you make on MFC based on the pay structure (message me if you want details). Even if they don't get as much traffic as MFC (not sure if that's true...I'm assuming they don't), there is definitely a higher conversion rate...meaning I spend more time in private on Streamate than I do on MFC. That being said, after 2 hours I have to log off and give my body a break...lol
 
If I can expand on Kitty's point about F4F recording privates:

A couple of months ago, F4F started a site where everyone could view parts of private shows for free. It doesn't show the entire show, but it shows enough that someone could fap to it and see a lot of hot stuff.

It comes to mind because Kitty has one video on there (but it's very hard to find, I only remember seeing it from watching something else there one time) and one other model who is signed up on the forums has almost 20 videos on there.

The website is www.bigcamtube.com

Models who worked on F4F- if you want to see what's up there from you; after the .com type /models/(model name with a dash between 1st and last name).
 
Mikeythegeek said:
If I can expand on Kitty's point about F4F recording privates:

A couple of months ago, F4F started a site where everyone could view parts of private shows for free. It doesn't show the entire show, but it shows enough that someone could fap to it and see a lot of hot stuff.

It comes to mind because Kitty has one video on there (but it's very hard to find, I only remember seeing it from watching something else there one time) and one other model who is signed up on the forums has almost 20 videos on there.

The website is www.bigcamtube.com

Models who worked on F4F- if you want to see what's up there from you; after the .com type /models/(model name with a dash between 1st and last name).

the only thing they did well with the tube channel is that the models had all control over it.. so if your video is out there.. you put it there yourself.. or your studiomanager did...
so there wont be unexpected video's there for most girls...
mine have been deleted 2 or 3 months after they booted me from there..
i still think no other site will beat the asshole behavier video secrets show their girls.. mfc's model support doesnt even come close!
i would highly recommend any girl to stay away from there.. its not worth your time
 
As KittyWilde mentioned this and she seems to be - let's say - disappointed with how F4F works, I think it is relevant to say that other sites do the same but in different ways.

Cams.com
Records every single private and members can watch for $0.99/min or join the fan club for $15 and have access to all the videos. Models get % of the fan club members, but I don't know about the videos watched.

LiveJasmin
Videos will be available only if the member opt to make his private chat available. If this happen, it is 2.99 credits/min. Discount to Fan club members if the model has a fan club available. Seems LJ wants to pay the models for this, but as it is new and they are testing few things, models don't earn anything from this yet.

Streamate
Not every private chat is available and models seems to have the option to exclude videos. Many models have no video, although they had performed hundreds of private shows. Don't know if models make money with this.

Webcams.com
Seems the site picks the best videos and make them available as promo - about 4 or 5 minutes long. Promo videos, so no income to models. I have seen a few models with pic/video galleries for sale there. I don't know how this works.

ImLive
Only if the model wants. Seems that after each private the system asks if she wants to make the last session available. Price is set by the model.

CamWorld
They have some videos that members can watch for a price. But I'm not sure how this works and if the model can exclude videos.

MyFreeCams
Every private is recorded (or at least they want to record), but only the member who started the private can watch the video.

Flirt 4 Free
Already mentioned. Short promo videos on tube sites and full length videos available for members. And the price is set by the model.

Naked.com
Members can pay to watch recorded videos, but I don't know if models earn something from this and if they can remove videos.

WebCamClub
The default is to record all privates and make them available for members ($0.49/min). But models can choose to not have videos.

CamSpot
Some private shows are available. $2.99 for each video.

Notice that all the sites where you work/worked, including those I didn't mention here, have the right to use your image as they want. To sell or to share for free. The important is to know how each site exercises this right.
 
The_Brown_Fox said:
LilyPink said:
Adultwork, it's mainly for brits and you really do need to focus on the Directcam functions but it's so worth it, I made about £60 in an hour. Yay :)




YES, AdultWork is awesome. :)

I make the majority of my income from Adultwork, the fact that you can set your own price for private and group is a major bonus. The only downside is that because there are a lot of escorts advertising on the site, every other guy who comes into my room asks 'do u escort bb?' and I am sooooooooo bored of saying no to be told that i 'should' and that 'shame, if u did u would b rich'. As if I hadn't worked that out myself and made my decision based on personal feelings and informed opinion lol. Adultwork = awesome for private. MFC = awesome for hanging out with your friends in public chat and getting creative...
 
MyCamgirl said:
I think it was here that someone said that Naked.com only work with studios, therefore models need to sign up through a studio account. Can you confirm this?

Naked.com can be done individually or through a studio. That's actually where I got my camming start. Naked.com is $5/min for members for privates, they can also do a voyeur mode for some models which is cheaper, watch group shows (not very common), and buy videos, models make about 20% of what members pay. Members may NOT talk to models off the site, models may not get naked in public chat, and the model support isn't as great as MFC. There are also a lot fewer models and there are FAR fewer customers (I would have 10-15 ppl in my room at a time, which is low, but I also was one of the top models in the studio I worked at....). If models made more (like we do on MFC), it would be a viable website to work for, but since we don't, I made the choice to switch to MFC.
 
Kittycatpurr said:
The_Brown_Fox said:
LilyPink said:
Adultwork, it's mainly for brits and you really do need to focus on the Directcam functions but it's so worth it, I made about £60 in an hour. Yay :)




YES, AdultWork is awesome. :)

I make the majority of my income from Adultwork, the fact that you can set your own price for private and group is a major bonus. The only downside is that because there are a lot of escorts advertising on the site, every other guy who comes into my room asks 'do u escort bb?' and I am sooooooooo bored of saying no to be told that i 'should' and that 'shame, if u did u would b rich'. As if I hadn't worked that out myself and made my decision based on personal feelings and informed opinion lol. Adultwork = awesome for private. MFC = awesome for hanging out with your friends in public chat and getting creative...


Do they ask you about escorting whilst paying per minute? I always string them along if they ask me about it, that may sound mean, but they should have read my profile and known I'm not an escort. So I take ages to answer and say things like hmmm maybe, and let them try and convince me haha.
 
Ohh boy, so many sites.

After my failure with MFC (I must recognize my patience was missing though the next day I logged in) I choosed F4F. Indeed, as girls are saying, people there are very rude sometimes and demanding, but I'm used to it already as I'm drowning them in their own sauce.
True, no VOD's on tube site if model doesn't accept it and sad because party chat doesn't work at all. I don't know why they are so mean sometimes. Now, as a member, you cannot even see snapshots from every VOD, like it used to be. So buh bye to annoying beggers.
But... F4F it's not that alive as MFC.
 
Camwithher.com / ICGirls.com / Nudeadultcams.com

- Some of the highest prices per min in the industry - girls can set their own price
- You can turn live streaming on or off and just have text chat - I leave it off so I can get on with other things like school work and it turns on when I accept shows.
- very high percentage - it depends on how many hrs you do and whether you are an exclusive model or not but it's up to 70%
- Great community, steady earnings once you're established, fanclub options available, friendly boss and great team of mods for tech support.
- They cut a deal with naked.com so you can make a naked account through their software with them as studio. You actually earn a higher % payout through the nudeadultcams studio than you do directly through naked.com! But you need to turn free streaming on in order to use naked because they are like MFC that way.
 
MyCamgirl said:
Streamate
Not every private chat is available and models seems to have the option to exclude videos. Many models have no video, although they had performed hundreds of private shows. Don't know if models make money with this.


A few months after I started on Streamate, a guest mentioned that he'd just bought my video. I wasn't aware I had any, and couldn't find evidence of revenue, so I assumed he was just BS'ing me. Eventually one of my regs said the same thing, so I wrote to streamate asking where, when and how I would get paid. Here's the answer I got.

"Currently, the video gallery is not optional and is actually automated.
The videos are short clips (teasers) of chathost live sessions.

The purpose of these videos is to let the members know what to expect in
the chathosts' live sessions and also to promote their image better.
Members join Streamate for LIVE performances, so you shouldn't feel
threatened by the video feature. Also, this feature increases the quality
of the site and keeps members loyal to Streamate, which is to your
advantage.

The cost to produce and store the videos is barely covered by the
earnings they generate. This feature was not introduced for profit, but
for quality improvement. "


I can't say I'm ecstatic about this. I'd appreciate some control over it. The option to have this extra promo, and control over what videos they show. But the least they could do, the VERY LEAST, is to make it clear that models don't get paid when they watch them. Naturally they expect us to be grateful, in the same way they do when they tip us a dollar and have no idea that we only get 35 cents. But that's another issue.
 
other than mfc, i do camwhores. for me it's awesome. it's not a super huge payout, but it's definitely worth it. i have yet to meet anyone even remotely jerky on there. i'm looking at possibly doing another camming site, but i've yet to find one that will fit me.
 
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