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Show-It is a new platform that wants to keep models just as satisfied as the members are. We believe that if the models are happy with what they do and how they do it, the quality of their shows will exceed all expectations. And that’s great for everyone. The members will be happy and they will stay on the platform, and the business will be booming. Because we want to show appreciation for all the work of the models, we launched a daily payout option so that you can get all earnings instantly. We also practice the lowest commission out of all the platforms out there. Our models earn, on average 75% more than they do on the platforms of our competitors. And money can be made easy. Our top-quality affiliates are directing unique traffic to us every single day. All that traffic means that your chat room will be packed with members requesting live shows and tipping your performances.
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Marceline

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We also offer a mobile app for Android and IOS that will help you keep your profile updated, withdraw money or answers to the messages of your fans anywhere you are.

How exactly do you guys have an app on the Apple App Store and Google Play store when neither allow apps that are primarily adult content themed?

Also, after checking out your Twitter and Instagram pages it looks like you guys are more than likely using stolen pictures that you found online to promote your website. I'm too lazy to do a reverse image search to confirm, but it's fairly obvious. If a site was legit, they would be paying models to do legitimate advertisement/photoshoots for them in the beginning stages.

There's also 40 users on the website at this very moment. I think it's a little ambitious deceptive to tell people that they can give up all their other sites, because their room will be packed and they will be able to meet all of their money goals on this site. You cannot guarantee this. No site can guarantee this.

Perhaps it's just me, but I'm seeing a ton of red flags, and I don't think I'd personally want a site with all these red flags having my personal legal information.
 
Oct 22, 2019
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Hey Marceline!


If you accuse us of using photos that are stolen, please provide data where you have gathered this information from.

but it's fairly obvious. If a site was legit, they would be paying models to do legitimate advertisement/photoshoots for them in the beginning stages.

If you'd like, you can always create your own website and follow your own business plan where you will pay models to "legitimate advertisment/photoshoots". Meanwhile we pay people doing shoots as profession. You could follow our twitter a little bit more and check models tweeting about us, and their opinions. If our High Quality posts made you think that we are not legit website, you're totally wrong.

There's also 40 users on the website at this very moment. I think it's a little ambitious deceptive to tell people that they can give up all their other sites, because their room will be packed and they will be able to meet all of their money goals on this site. You cannot guarantee this. No site can guarantee this.

I actually think it's a little deceptive to say your opinion loud, while saying first thoughs that came to your mind. Content we are posting is 100% licensed to us and we are totally allowed to post it. Thank you for your opinion.

Kind regards,
Patryk.
 

Marceline

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You forgot to answer how you have an app for an adult camming website on the app store, which is blatantly against their tos.

If you accuse us of using photos that are stolen, please provide data where you have gathered this information from.

Your Image

Stock Image

Your Image

Stock Image

I'm not doing any more. Although, I did do a reverse image search on another one and funnily enough the same picture was on some liposuction ad. Now, you could very well have paid a dollar or so to actually buy these images from a stock image site or that you bought a standard license which would allow you to legally use these photos without fear of a DMCA report getting thrown at you. However, the instagram photos I linked have your show-it logo on it, and it's deceptive to pretend as if these women are actually a part of your site when they clearly are not. Also, while I understand that the models are aware that their images are put on stock image sites (at least one would hope so), these models have no clue and are not consenting to having their image associated with an adult website. Imagine if someone from their personal life saw this and they got some backlash from it, which most sex workers tend to get, when they aren't even sex workers or aware of what is going on.

I actually think it's a little deceptive to say your opinion loud, while saying first thoughs that came to your mind. Content we are posting is 100% licensed to us and we are totally allowed to post it. Thank you for your opinion.

Lololol, what? It's deceptive to voice an opinion? Getouttaheaaaa. When someone comes here, or to any forum, posting about a new website, there's going to be questions. Your site and social media threw up red flags. When you have to give a site all of your legal information you should know exactly what sort of site you are giving it to, that means being aware of any red flags or warning signals involved.

Who do you consider your competitors to be?

Showup, goshow, chaturbate? These are things of the past

Straight from their homepage. I've never even heard of the first two sites, but Chaturbate a thing of the past? Yeah, okay.


Alsooooo, there's an image of Paypal on their homepage. I cannot find a page that details how much token packages are for members and what payment options they accept, but I really hope they're not actually using Paypal, because if so yikes.
 
Oct 22, 2019
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Hey July!
Who do you consider your competitors to be?
We consider chaturbate as our main competitor.

Hey Marceline!

That's really smart of you, congratulations!
Stock adobe is the place where we get our images from. Try to download it without being a legal licensee.
Now, you could very well have paid a dollar or so to actually buy these images from a stock image site or that you bought a standard license which would allow you to legally use these photos without fear of a DMCA report getting thrown at you.
I think its a moment we should already stop our discussion as you're accusing us of something without any idea of what's going on.
models have no clue and are not consenting to having their image associated with an adult website. Imagine if someone from their personal life saw this and they got some backlash from it, which most sex workers tend to get, when they aren't even sex workers or aware of what is going on.
It's not our part if friends or family of these people will see campaign, they're posting images on stock and totally agree with all its terms and rules.
Lololol, what? It's deceptive to voice an opinion? Getouttaheaaaa. When someone comes here, or to any forum, posting about a new website, there's going to be questions. Your site and social media threw up red flags. When you have to give a site all of your legal information you should know exactly what sort of site you are giving it to, that means being aware of any red flags or warning signals involved.
No, its totally not wrong to say your opinions loud, i think its wrong to say opinions loud while you didnt even take a serious look. You're saying that if someone comes here, there will be questions. You didn't ask any question, you have just said that we are not legit website. That's not a question mark.
Showup, goshow, chaturbate? These are things of the past

Straight from their homepage. I've never even heard of the first two sites, but Chaturbate a thing of the past? Yeah, okay.
That's SEO, Marcelina.
Alsooooo, there's an image of Paypal on their homepage. I cannot find a page that details how much token packages are for members and what payment options they accept, but I really hope they're not actually using Paypal, because if so yikes.
Yes, we do use paypal for money withdrawal, we do not allow paypal deposits yet untill we find 3rd company that will hold chargebacks, so our models are totally safe.
You forgot to answer how you have an app for an adult camming website on the app store, which is blatantly against their tos.
We do not allow our users to download app through appstore or google play yet, buuuuut soon..... :)
We also offer a mobile app for Android and IOS that will help you keep your profile updated, withdraw money or answers to the messages of your fans anywhere you are.


Kind regards,
Patryk.
 
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AmberCutie

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Stock adobe is the place where we get our images from. Try to download it without being a legal licensee.
I imagine if you had just said that to begin with instead of
Meanwhile we pay people doing shoots as profession.
you wouldn't have been questioned about it. Nothing wrong with using paid stock photos for a website. There was probably fine print somewhere letting you know if it's ok or not to use them on a site with adult content.

I HIGHLY advise you to reply to people, even if their tone is accusatory, with more proper professionalism. Your posts are coming off snotty, which isn't good PR for an up and coming site trying to build their rep. Especially if
We consider chaturbate as our main competitor.
That's some hefty competition, so you've really got to play your cards right.
 

Marceline

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That's really smart of you, congratulations!
Stock adobe is the place where we get our images from. Try to download it without being a legal licensee.


Check out section 4.1 d and e.

You are violating Adobe stock's TOS by using their stock images for a pornographic site. Sooooo

It's not our part if friends or family of these people will see campaign, they're posting images on stock and totally agree with all its terms and rules.

Not only is that an incredibly shitty thing to say, but it is also completely incorrect. Again, these stock models did not consent to have their images associated with a pornographic site.
 

AmberCutie

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AudriTwo

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We consider chaturbate as our main competitor.

 
Oct 22, 2019
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Hello Marcelina and AmberCutie,

I HIGHLY advise you to reply to people, even if their tone is accusatory, with more proper professionalism. Your posts are coming off snotty, which isn't good PR for an up and coming site trying to build their rep.
I'm really sorry if anyone could get offended with anything i have posted here, English is not my native language and i could offend someone while i never meant to.
Not only is that an incredibly shitty thing to say, but it is also completely incorrect. Again, these stock models did not consent to have their images associated with a pornographic site.
Our instagram is totally SFW, i don't see any reason why these models couldnt be posted here. Our instagram is not connected or associated in any way with our platform as its against their rules.
Haha, i laughed with this one:rofl:. I know, we're like small fish dropped to pool with sharks:haha:

I am more than happy to answer any questions you've got for me, thanks.

Kind regards,
Patryk.
 

Marceline

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Our instagram is totally SFW, i don't see any reason why these models couldnt be posted here. Our instagram is not connected or associated in any way with our platform as its against their rules.

LOL WHAT?! So, you're trying to say that your Instagram, which has your site's name on it, which has your logo plastered on women's butts, is not associated or connected to you? That is the most inane thing I have heard all day. Let me put it simply, though I doubt you are going to grasp what I'm about to say. There is a stigma around sex work. Legitimate sex workers have had their lives destroyed by their choice to be in this industry. It's terrible and screwed up. But, at least these women knew that this was always a sad possibility. The women who you are posting to your Instagram account, which is promoting your adult site, did not get to make that choice. It is indeed associated with your site, whether the pictures are safe for work or not. The fact that you legit said it's not your problem what happens to these girls is beyond fucked up. It is your problem because you are taking away their choice to be in this industry.

I'm so sick and tired of people coming into this industry trying to make a quick buck off sex workers when they clearly don't give a shit about the workers or women in general. What you are doing is exploitative, plain and simple. And you think that people should trust you with their legal information? If you're willing to exploit women who don't even work for you, what would stop you from being even more exploitative towards women who actually do work on the site? Shit, you can't even be arsed to check the terms of service on the sites/services you are using. Either that or you are blatantly ignoring them. I made points about the app store thing, which you said you offered but then backtracked on it. I'm not even sure what you meant about the Paypal thing being used to withdraw money, but anyone who has been in the industry for even a minute should know to steer clear of Paypal like it's the plague since they are extremely anti-sw. You couldn't even find legit sex workers and commission photos from them to advertise your site and instead violated the terms of service on the stock site, which you are still adamantly defending your "right" to have done so. If you don't care that much about all that, what other legal corners are you guys cutting that isn't as obvious?
 
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LOL WHAT?! So, you're trying to say that your Instagram, which has your site's name on it, which has your logo plastered on women's butts, is not associated or connected to you? That is the most inane thing I have heard all day. Let me put it simply, though I doubt you are going to grasp what I'm about to say. There is a stigma around sex work. Legitimate sex workers have had their lives destroyed by their choice to be in this industry. It's terrible and screwed up. But, at least these women knew that this was always a sad possibility. The women who you are posting to your Instagram account, which is promoting your adult site, did not get to make that choice. It is indeed associated with your site, whether the pictures are safe for work or not. The fact that you legit said it's not your problem what happens to these girls is beyond fucked up. It is your problem because you are taking away their choice to be in this industry.
Hey Marcelina,

I'm not really sure how to explain it to you, but our instagram is just a magazine. It's not associated with our website or porn in any way, otherwise Instagram would take it down. I hope you understand this. I'm really sad and i feel anger inside, because of what you're saying here. There is alot of hate and anger in what you're saying and i have no clue where it comes from, but usually it has psychological aspect in past. I felt really bad while reading all this anger without any facts covering all the judgement, you're saying:
I'm so sick and tired of people coming into this industry trying to make a quick buck off sex workers when they clearly don't give a shit about the workers or women in general.
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. "
while you know totally nothing about me, my team and our platform. We launched two days ago, you probably didnt hear about us before, but we've been here. Talking with models, affilate managers, studio owners and listen carefully, Marcelina. We're creating whole platform 100% based on what user's say, design, interface and all the improvements are always forced just to make life of streamer/user simplier and better. You can't really see all the pros of our platform yet, but maybe you will be able to take a closer look once we get bigger. We aim to create most community-friendly platform ever, listening carefully to needs of Models and of course visitors. Our website is in BETA stage (visible at our logo) which means we are missing really lot of functions which will be implemented as fast as possible, maybe thats the reason where all of you bad thoughs came from. I can clearly understand your point of view, you're scared with depositing your information to a website, which could seem for you at first "not legit" i just dont understand where from comes all the judgement about our company, like not giving a shit about workers or women or exploiting their legal info. First of all im not here to tell you "GO TO SHOW-IT.TV AND REGISTER" and i never did this, nobody ever told you to enter our platform and leave your DATA here, its always only and only your own decision and choice. if you do not trust us, you do not have to enter website at all, ever.
I'm so sick and tired of people coming into this industry trying to make a quick buck off sex workers when they clearly don't give a shit about the workers or women in general.
I'm really not sure whats your experience with cam platforms, you could actually experience something really bad where someone did what you're writing about but please, do not speak about people and their projects in general, like every human was same. I'm here only to answer questions and announce our platform, which as i said, we make only for you, and with you.

#edit


I'll answer this one once again, cuz i think that was not understood. I dont see where we said that we offer it on google play or app store.
#edit

Thank you for reply. Marcelina.

Kind regards,
Patryk.
 
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Marceline

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I'm not really sure how to explain it to you, but our instagram is just a magazine. It's not associated with our website or porn in any way, otherwise Instagram would take it down. I hope you understand this. I'm really sad and i feel anger inside, because of what you're saying here. There is alot of hate and anger in what you're saying and i have no clue where it comes from, but usually it has psychological aspect in past.

I spelled it out for you clearly. Your name, your logo, is on these girls bodies. The name of your porn site. It is associated with you. If this was your personal account and you were just posting pictures of hot girls it would be different. If someone who knew these women were to see a picture of them with a logo for a porn site on their ass they would naturally make the connection that these girls worked, at some point, on or for this site. If you cannot see how that is wrong, then you have a problem. It'd be like if a strip club posted pictures of hot chicks in bikinis to their social media account. People would assume, rightfully so, that the girl had a connection to the club. You're either willfully ignoring this or you're incredibly daft if you think this is in any way okay.

Nice touch with the attempt at gaslighting, btw. I am annoyed with you because you keep trying to justify your shitty behavior. You keep sidestepping legitimate points of concern. You could have very easily have been like "You know what, you got a point." Instead of steadfastly defending exploitation. This has nothing to do with my past, but everything to do with the current climate of this industry and how sex workers and the industry as a whole is treated by outsiders. Websites that exploit us just give the general public even further reason to demonize this entire industry, which is terrible because there are legitimate good companies out there who actually care about the women working for them. You're not the first person to come here trying to sell us on some bs.

Anyway, I'm done here. Trying to explain this, along with every other point I brought up, to you is like talking to a brick wall. Good luck with your crap site and maybe learn some decent public relation skills and how not to insult someone for the future.

PS. Also, learn basic reading comprehension. It's Marceline, boo.
 
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Are you purposefully being that obtuse dude?

Legit questions and inquiries are being asked here and you have some sexist nerve to mention periods when you're challenged in any way--very mature sounds like the type of site people would love to use! (Not). People signing up for sites WILL ask you questions so be prepared to actually answer them instead of gaslighting or hire someone to answer questions if you can't help but be a jerk.

 

NerdyZoey

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So you can’t follow the terms of service with other sites like stock photos. But we are supposed to trust you have better judgement with your own site?

and then you claim your competition is one of the largest sites in the industry.... but then talk to cammodels like you know more than us all....

sorry I don’t listen to or support a site that cannot follow the basic premise of a terms of service contract with other people and businesses

The purpose of a logo is to associate a picture with a business so you don’t have to say it’s related. By placing a porn sites logo on a models ass you are not only falsely advertising she is a model on your site but are in fact associating her with a porn site it’s literally the purpose of a logo

PPS
I really suggest when trying to start a business mostly full of women when they ask you questions you don’t like I wouldn’t blame it on their periods....
 

KingMarti

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kingmarti.com
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Our instagram is totally SFW, i don't see any reason why these models couldnt be posted here. Our instagram is not connected or associated in any way with our platform as its against their rules.

You cant say that the instagram isnt associated with the site when they share the same name and branding, the entire point of branding is for people to associate your product with your brand.
 
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Are you purposefully being that obtuse dude?

Legit questions and inquiries are being asked here and you have some sexist nerve to mention periods when you're challenged in any way--very mature sounds like the type of site people would love to use! (Not). People signing up for sites WILL ask you questions so be prepared to actually answer them instead of gaslighting or hire someone to answer questions if you can't help but be a jerk.

Also, after checking out your Twitter and Instagram pages it looks like you guys are more than likely using stolen pictures that you found online to promote your website. I'm too lazy to do a reverse image search to confirm, but it's fairly obvious. If a site was legit, they would be paying models to do legitimate advertisement/photoshoots for them in the beginning stages.

Doesnt look like an question for me, it's JUDGEMENT and that makes really big difference for me. We've been judged as not legit website with stolen photos in first post then got insulted many various times (and offended). If normal discussion for you looks like this, i feel like i shouldnt continue it anymore. Have a nice day, thank you.

Kind regards,
Patryk.
 

AlexaCrush

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Bahaha wow. You want chicks to work for your site but then use one of the most annoying sexist jokes known to humankind ("hurdur, she's so cranky, must be on her period") when someone contradicts you? Hahha, yeah, sign me the fuck up. You're on the fast track to makin' the big bucks, man.
 
Doesnt look like an question for me, it's JUDGEMENT and that makes really big difference for me. We've been judged as not legit website with stolen photos in first post then got insulted many various times (and offended). If normal discussion for you looks like this, i feel like i shouldnt continue it anymore. Have a nice day, thank you.

Kind regards,
Patryk.

You deserve judgement though lol. That's the point. People signing up on a site can be a hell of a lot more difficult to deal with then a few cam models on a forum. That is assuming anyone signs up. ANY new site is going to be met with a lot of scrutiny. We are an extremely high risk industry. Both for models, payment processors etc--be prepared that people are going to want to know every nook and cranny of what you're trying to hustle. If you can't handle criticism or questions while maintaining professionalism you WILL have a lot of unhappy models. People want to feel safe on these sites and feel like they can ask questions. Even chaturbate with the mess of banning that goes on and people freaking out on here you don't see their representatives being rude or resorting to personal attacks.
 

paige_orion

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I have to agree with Marceline.

I don't understand your statement that your instagram is not associated with your website/service at all. You share the exact same name and logo, which means, by definition, you are associated. You may not have a link to your website, but you are trying to get people to notice your brand and follow it to your website. This means they are very much intertwined and associated with one another, even if you must keep your website link on the down-low in order to abide by Instagram's rules. Cam models do this all of the time - promoting their name, even if they cannot promote the links to their services, in hopes that fans will google them for more information. They are absolutely united and tied under a single brand name, as your Instagram and Services are. If they were not associated together in any way, they would have two separate names, logos, businesses, etc.

You emphasized that you and your company spent a lot of time listening to models and concerns, but when Merceline showed concern for models being advertised on porn-service sites without their consent... You did not listen at all. You accused her of not listening, accused her of being on her period, accused her of being closed minded, accused her of only being upset because of past experiences. This is the exact opposite of listening or seeming to have the well-being of your models at the fore-front of your mind.

As models, we don't HAVE to be open minded about where a company is coming from on a personal level. We ARE going to judge a website before we entrust them with all of our personal information, because it is a huge risk for us to hand over our identification, our personal location, the numbers to our bank accounts. Which means any cam-site wanting to build a relationship should LISTEN to our concerns, answer our questions, conduct themselves in a professional manner, and not come across as exploitative as the HUNDREDS of other businesses trying to make money off of our work. You are asking us to give up our other websites, or at least, spend a deal of our free time driving traffic to YOUR business, as well as entrust with you incredible amounts of personal information about ourselves. Which means you should EXPECT us to be critical, expect us to be wary, and take steps to remain professional in the face of that.

If you've done any research into building a SWer business, you should understand the huge numbers of people trying to take advantage of our work, the stigmas we must face on a constant basis, the vast amount of people who want our money without having any experience in this industry - and you would expect to answer our questions and EARN our trust and respect and business. We judge new businesses because this is how we protect ourselves from untrustworthy people or companies who have zero experience industry. Especially when every week, we are faced with a dozen new start-up businesses striving for a slice of our income. We're seasoned veterans at spotting red flags in new businesses, and by asking questions or raising concerns, we are actually giving these businesses a chance to correct any problems or face any short-comings, which can help you find the models you are seeking. Constructive critique and expressing concerns can strengthen a business who chooses to LISTEN, instead of those who act as if the critiques are unfair and simply spoken out of cruelty.

So in the future, instead of taking legitimate concerns and dismissing them or growing defensive, I hope YOU take the time to understand where WE are coming from. Take our criticisms constructively and use them to make your service better. That is the ONLY way your business has a chance of growing. Because dismissing our concerns and acting as if we are being cruel or irrational by voicing these concerns... That is not going to be a very professional look for a business we are supposed to trust with all of our information.
 

KingMarti

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kingmarti.com
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There's a big piece of information you missed and it's truly the main thing models really care about... At the moment your site has no models and no traffic, to get models to sign up you need to get traffic, given the stock photo issue and not understanding how using stock images in a way that is against the licencing agreement for those images, it comes across that you dont have the attention to detail that it will require to effectively advertise an adult site. The adult industry is one of the hardest industries to enter not because of competition but because of the amount of red tape around things like advertising your site and or services. So the main question that no one has asked and you havnt provided information on is: How are you planning on getting members onto the platform?

I don't understand your statement that your instagram is not associated with your website/service at all. You share the exact same name and logo, which means, by definition, you are associated. You may not have a link to your website

Their instagram may not link to the website but the website does link to the instagram, so they do know that the instagram page is associated with the website, otherwise the link wouldnt be on the site because they have nothing to do with each other right?
 
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So you can’t follow the terms of service with other sites like stock photos. But we are supposed to trust you have better judgement with your own site?
and then you claim your competition is one of the largest sites in the industry.... but then talk to cammodels like you know more than us all....
Hey Zoey,
We totally follow ToS of adobe stock and if we would do anything against it, our account would be suspended. For instagram we do use expert team which decided we'll use adobe stock as image's resource. Just trying to explain you our point of view. I didn't understand Marceline's point of view at the beggining while she said that Models have life ruined by moves like this and i have just focused on judgement about our platform being SCAM. So, what i meant was our instagram is 100% correct with Law's and ToS of each of these services...... BUT there comes Marceline's vision, where our instagram is NOT okay with Models when it comes to their private life.. i understand this, i can totally agree that model may have life ruined, i'm sorry for not mentioning this before. I can clearly understand this now and our instagram will have content changed. Thank you.


I don't understand your statement that your instagram is not associated with your website/service at all. You share the exact same name and logo, which means, by definition, you are associated. You may not have a link to your website, but you are trying to get people to notice your brand and follow it to your website. This means they are very much intertwined and associated with one another, even if you must keep your website link on the down-low in order to abide by Instagram's rules. Cam models do this all of the time - promoting their name, even if they cannot promote the links to their services, in hopes that fans will google them for more information. They are absolutely united and tied under a single brand name, as your Instagram and Services are. If they were not associated together in any way, they would have two separate names, logos, businesses, etc.

Hey Paige,

I hope i have answered this while answering Zoey. In the front, our instagram and platform are not associated, maybe only with devil's logo. On the backend, yes - our company runs the instagram, we do need brand awareness from instagram, but we have to follow ToS.

You emphasized that you and your company spent a lot of time listening to models and concerns, but when Merceline showed concern for models being advertised on porn-service sites without their consent... You did not listen at all. You accused her of not listening, accused her of being on her period, accused her of being closed minded, accused her of only being upset because of past experiences. This is the exact opposite of listening or seeming to have the well-being of your models at the fore-front of your mind.
Was blind by judgement saying that we are SCAM while we are really trying hard to make sure every of our model's is more than happy after choosing our platform. I didn't ever accuse her of being closed-minded, i was just trying to explain my point of view while i totally forgot about understanding the person i am talking to, i dont wanna defend myself but low amount of sleep and lot of work because of launch-time could make me think less while responding. I am really sorry once again, if you felt offended with anything i've wrote, Marceline.
As models, we don't HAVE to be open minded about where a company is coming from on a personal level. We ARE going to judge a website before we entrust them with all of our personal information, because it is a huge risk for us to hand over our identification, our personal location, the numbers to our bank accounts. Which means any cam-site wanting to build a relationship should LISTEN to our concerns, answer our questions, conduct themselves in a professional manner, and not come across as exploitative as the HUNDREDS of other businesses trying to make money off of our work. You are asking us to give up our other websites, or at least, spend a deal of our free time driving traffic to YOUR business, as well as entrust with you incredible amounts of personal information about ourselves. Which means you should EXPECT us to be critical, expect us to be wary, and take steps to remain professional in the face of that.

If you've done any research into building a SWer business, you should understand the huge numbers of people trying to take advantage of our work, the stigmas we must face on a constant basis, the vast amount of people who want our money without having any experience in this industry - and you would expect to answer our questions and EARN our trust and respect and business. We judge new businesses because this is how we protect ourselves from untrustworthy people or companies who have zero experience industry. Especially when every week, we are faced with a dozen new start-up businesses striving for a slice of our income. We're seasoned veterans at spotting red flags in new businesses, and by asking questions or raising concerns, we are actually giving these businesses a chance to correct any problems or face any short-comings, which can help you find the models you are seeking. Constructive critique and expressing concerns can strengthen a business who chooses to LISTEN, instead of those who act as if the critiques are unfair and simply spoken out of cruelty.

So in the future, instead of taking legitimate concerns and dismissing them or growing defensive, I hope YOU take the time to understand where WE are coming from. Take our criticisms constructively and use them to make your service better. That is the ONLY way your business has a chance of growing. Because dismissing our concerns and acting as if we are being cruel or irrational by voicing these concerns... That is not going to be a very professional look for a business we are supposed to trust with all of our information.

Thank you for really detailed perspective. thats reply i was seeking for. Most of the people i worked with untill now (from porn industry, many models) werent judgeing us or our platform, if they had questions, they asked but they never "yelled" that we're scammers. We have models that trusted us already with their data and they can be sure that it will never become compromised. What i meant since beggining was Marceline shouldnt judge(I'm atheist, but bible says to not judge) and shout us instantly as a scammers without facts provided. We really care about people, showit is not just another wordpress website created with 40$ layout that is searching top optimized ways to earn on models, probably not even paying up at the end. Untill now we've been developing our platform for almost 2 years fulltime (still beta), that should a little bit show you our effort and care. Im here to collect opinions and criticisms so we may constantly improve our platform at user's wish, you're right. I'd be more than happy to explain anything else.

How are you planning on getting members onto the platform?
If it comes to Models, we already have some ultra talented and enthusiastic freelancers (Models without studio), beside that we're connected with two studios ready and full of really proffessional Models. If we're talking about traffic(users, viewers), we already have some affilate managers ready to start promoting our platform (we offer 30% revshare with affilate code), beside that we already have budget ready and enough deep to handle links and SEO traffic, aswell as many other awareness opportunities. For example, at December you will be able to see show-it.tv at XBIZ magazine:)

Thanks,
Patryk.
 
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hahahaha you just seriously tried to use a bible verse about not judging someone when you’re judging . The hypocrisy is at so many levels now. Pretty sure the Bible is the last thing you should quote on a cam site
Please, show me where i judged someone.
 

Danigirl

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Jan 16, 2019
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Please, show me where i judged someone.
Probably where you assumed a model was on her period because she dared to voice legitimate concerns about your shady business practices and you were a douche nozzle. I mean a woman couldn’t actually have a point against you now could she.

And yes. I’m judging you because models have to be smart about where they put their time and effort. You’re seriously lacking in every category that counts. Zero professionalism, no traffic, shady business practices.
 

NerdyZoey

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Hey Zoey,
We totally follow ToS of adobe stock and if we would do anything against it, our account would be suspended. For instagram we do use expert team which decided we'll use adobe stock as image's resource. Just trying to explain you our point of view. I didn't understand Marceline's point of view at the beggining while she said that Models have life ruined by moves like this and i have just focused on judgement about our platform being SCAM. So, what i meant was our instagram is 100% correct with Law's and ToS of each of these services...... BUT there comes Marceline's vision, where our instagram is NOT okay with Models when it comes to their private life.. i understand this, i can totally agree that model may have life ruined, i'm sorry for not mentioning this before. I can clearly understand this now and our instagram will have content changed. Thank you.




Hey Paige,

I hope i have answered this while answering Zoey. In the front, our instagram and platform are not associated, maybe only with devil's logo. On the backend, yes - our company runs the instagram, we do need brand awareness from instagram, but we have to follow ToS.


Was blind by judgement saying that we are SCAM while we are really trying hard to make sure every of our model's is more than happy after choosing our platform. I didn't ever accuse her of being closed-minded, i was just trying to explain my point of view while i totally forgot about understanding the person i am talking to, i dont wanna defend myself but low amount of sleep and lot of work because of launch-time could make me think less while responding. I am really sorry once again, if you felt offended with anything i've wrote, Marceline.


Thank you for really detailed perspective. thats reply i was seeking for. Most of the people i worked with untill now (from porn industry, many models) werent judgeing us or our platform, if they had questions, they asked but they never "yelled" that we're scammers. We have models that trusted us already with their data and they can be sure that it will never become compromised. What i meant since beggining was Marceline shouldnt judge(I'm atheist, but bible says to not judge) and shout us instantly as a scammers without facts provided. We really care about people, showit is not just another wordpress website created with 40$ layout that is searching top optimized ways to earn on models, probably not even paying up at the end. Untill now we've been developing our platform for almost 2 years fulltime (still beta), that should a little bit show you our effort and care. Im here to collect opinions and criticisms so we may constantly improve our platform at user's wish, you're right. I'd be more than happy to explain anything else.


If it comes to Models, we already have some ultra talented and enthusiastic freelancers (Models without studio), beside that we're connected with two studios ready and full of really proffessional Models. If we're talking about traffic(users, viewers), we already have some affilate managers ready to start promoting our platform (we offer 30% revshare with affilate code), beside that we already have budget ready and enough deep to handle links and SEO traffic, aswell as many other awareness opportunities. For example, at December you will be able to see show-it.tv at XBIZ magazine:)

Thanks,
Patryk.
Please email adobe about the stock photos being used on your Instagram, Twitter. Twitter straight up has links and they all have porn logos across on them. And are on a page with the same name as porn site.... not to mention the ones on your site. Explain how you also have links to these “non porn” social media pages ont the porn site as well. If they respond telling you it’s fine post it here. Plenty of customer service emails get posted in the forum as proof.
Just because they haven’t shut your account down yet doesn’t mean it’s ok.... it just means you haven’t gotten caught yet....
 
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