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LenaSexton

Cam Model
May 4, 2016
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@Lena_Buttafly
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LovelyLena
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LenaSexton
For those of you guys who are subscribed to OnlyFans, what are some things that bug the crap out of you that you see content creators on OF do? The reason I am asking is because I am in the process of starting and have been doing research from both sides. I have read several threads here and on other platforms from the content creator's perspective, but not so many from the subscribers perspective. To be the most successful in any new endeavor, I think it is important to research and speak with subscribers.
There is a group on a particular platform that reviews OF content creators. Personally, I think that a lot of their reviews are slanted because they feel the content creator should have a TON of content and full length videos with no paywalls if the subscriber already is already paying for a monthly subscription.... WTF? What experienced adult content creator would do that knowing full well how rampant piracy is?!?
In my research, I joined some groups on other platforms that I thought were promo groups for OF only to find out that they were actually trading OF content. I will not reveal the platform as I am not one to encourage piracy. If any content creators here want to know PM me.
However, this OF reviews group did have some valid gripes. Some of them were the following:
  • OF content creators that have way too many ads for other content creators, especially when there is more ads for others than the actual content creator's content.
  • Overpromising and underdelivering (for example)
    • promising content, specifically videos everyday and not posting content every day.
    • promoting having a 100+ videos, but then all the videos are mini clips that are at most a 15 sec-minute long.
  • More transparency about what the content creator offers for to potential subscribers.
  • Sending too many videos behind a paywall via DM.
  • Lack of engagement with subscribers.
  • Misleading/Deceptive verbiage in posts/DMs. For example promising nude pics behind a paywall that are not nudes.
  • Lack of transparency on pricing.
  • Posting same content on OF that they could have gotten from the content creator on IG.
  • Being sold the same exact content twice due to content creator either describing it as a different video or not being transparent in the description of the video.
  • Low subscriptions fees only to find that everything is behind a paywall.
  • Overly filtered/photoshopped content.
OF subscribers, I would love to hear from you first as far as this list is concerned plus any additional gripes that you may have. Not only will this help me as I am creating my own page, but it may help other OF content creators as well. OF content creators feel free to chime in. If it is one thing that I will definitely be doing is making sure that I'm 100% transparent in what I offer before potential subscribers even subscribe.
 
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There's been a few threads where subscribers have commented on some gripes. Some of mine have been as follows:

  • Lack of preview of the creator (This is an OF thing, not necessarily the creator's fault)
  • Lack of browsing other subscribers other than the little list on the right (Again, an OF thing)
  • Lack of preview for PPV content (again, an OF thing)
  • High subscription prices, along with high priced PPV content
  • Not following through on content/not meeting given expectations
  • Frequently promoting other models
  • PPV content cross-posted on other sites (MFCShare for example). I got burned by this once, and gives me pause on tipping for PPV again

There's other minor gripes. But, those are my biggest. It's understandable that not going to post every day, even if stated due to life/vacation/illness/etc. Also, I'm one who doesn't expect content to always be sexy. I enjoy the periodic pic that the creator thought was nice (nature scene, architecture,), or even just a "day in the life" shot. Those tend to be insightful and gives a little bit of who the creator is beyond just the sexy stuff.

As to PPV, it's a little mixed. If it's a free to subscribe account, I'm more open to tipping for PPV than I would be if it's a paid subscription. While I do tip for PPV, it's rare for me to do so. I'm one who tips more for the posts on the wall than PPV. One model I subscribe to sends content via PM to the subscribers as a "reward" for staying subscribed. I appreciate this, and have tipped for some of these as I would a regular wall post.

I'm sure more will come up as others chime in. I've posted more than a few times on some of my gripes about OF.
 

AmberCutie

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  • Lack of preview for PPV content (again, an OF thing)
We do have an option to include a preview on paid DMs. I haven't experimented with it since the option was new and a bit glitchy, but I know it exists.
 

AmberCutie

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  • PPV content cross-posted on other sites (MFCShare for example). I got burned by this once, and gives me pause on tipping for PPV again
Can you elaborate on this one? Though I think we might have discussed it before. If a model has it for sale both on Share and on OF, what's wrong with that? You have the choice to purchase it at either place?
 
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We do have an option to include a preview on paid DMs. I haven't experimented with it since the option was new and a bit glitchy, but I know it exists.

If this is possible, I think this shouldn't be an option and would like to see OF switch to something like what MFC and others do where it's a still shot of a vid, lead pic, etc. If I'm going to purchase content, I'd at least like a small preview of what i'm spending my money on.

Can you elaborate on this one? Though I think we might have discussed it before. If a model has it for sale both on Share and on OF, what's wrong with that? You have the choice to purchase it at either place?

I don't mind if it's for sale across multiple platforms, so long as it's known or we can see it. This ties into needing a preview of PPV content on OF. One model I follow on both MFC and OF. The purchase I mentioned did not have a clear description, only a very short teaser and of course no preview pic. It isn't unusual for her to create multiple content in the same location such as shower shows, kitchen, etc. So, I tipped for the PPV only to realize it was the same content I purchased on MFCShare a month prior.

Another issue I have with content on OF is one of the gripes @LenaSexton listed about content on OF being available on IG, Twitter, etc. If it's a paid subscription, then I view it as said content should not be posted on free sites. The exception to that is if it's a single picture that's marked up such as an ad print saying it's available on OF. That being said, I don't mind if there's the occasional "Throwback" pic that was posted on IG/Twitter or part of an MFCShare collection.
 

PrettyInPink1

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Nov 30, 2020
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I think you and Force have covered most, if not all, the main gripes. My personal worst peeves are:
  • LQ content (10-15 second clips or heavily filtered pics).
  • so-called exclusive content that is simply taken from their Twitter/Instagram.
  • posting too many of almost-identical clips. If you've seen one, you've seen them all.
  • creator only talking to you after you've posted a tip, otherwise he/she just ignores your casual pm's altogether.
I've had to unsub from a few people this month for the above. They bored me too much.

I can understand if you're an introvert and pm-chatting or creating diverse content is not really your thing. But again, if you're an introvert you shouldn't be making OF if you can't keep up with it.
 
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  • Getting called babe, baby, or some other pet name.
  • Having models write to me and make small talk and then they expect me to pay for having them take up my time.
  • Getting followed by models when I am no longer subscribed so they can send unsolicited nudes, lewds and pay to view content.
  • Overpriced low-quality content, a $15 subscription for a couple of phone camera pictures each month is hardly worth the price when you can get a porn magazine for the same price.
  • Getting treated like a walking wallet, it is dehumanizing.
 

ava1992

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May 6, 2020
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chaturbate.com
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prettyartist1992
Thank you guys for sharing this, as a lot of the advice applies to Chaturbate fan clubs too.
I really want my fans to feel valued and enjoy my content.

I am a solo, nude, but non-explicit model.
After reading the mentioned review forum, and this,
I realized I may need to be more clear about what type of content I create.

A lot of the reviewers seemed really disappointed that the model didn't offer content with other models,
or explicit content, which I can understand. I am trying my best to work around that and create more interesting solo content.

I also lowered my prices as much as possibly I can
while still being fair to myself and my time.
The last thing I want would be for anybody to feel like they got ripped off.

Part of why models do price their content higher may be because they feel
"it took me a lot of time to make/edit this, I should charge based on that time."
(art is similar with pricing sometimes so that was my thought process.)
I don't take cell phone photos or videos. I put a lot of effort and thought into my content, even if it's non-explicit.

The photos and videos took me literally hours, sometimes all day to film. I use a DSLR camera,
Logitech Brio webcam, and photographic lighting. I don't use filters.

I also know a lot about photography, videography, and styling.



Also, I never leak uncensored content on Twitter, that wouldn't be fair to those who are paying for it.
I do post censored previews of nudes
(usually censored video screenshots that look way more 'low res' than the real thing so they can't get stolen.)
and special "safe for Twitter" photos such as feet for those that subscribe.

Do you guys think it would be a problem if a model charges a lot for nudes/lingerie as a solo creator,
BUT has a disclaimer so viewers know what they're getting?


I added a disclaimer to my page:

"Please note:
*
I do solo content only. I do not plan on changing that.
*
My videos are not long, but more longer videos coming soon. If you're a fan and have an idea for a video, please let me know!
*
Photos and videos include lingerie and nudes but mostly non explicit. Most photos don't show pussy. //// (they actually do but it's not a 'spread' or close up so I don't want people to feel mislead.)
*
You will NOT see pussy close-ups, anal, or dildos in my videos/photos that I upload for fan club. I just want to be honest about that."
//// (there is actually one video for fans that is slightly more explicit but I didn't want to advertise it so people don't feel disappointed.)


Also, how could a mostly non-explicit model justify a higher priced subscription? I price my fan club at the
lowest possible price that I personally feel ok with (it also includes free PM and cam watching.)

I don't want to lower my price any more, so I want to add value instead. If anybody has
suggestions, please let me know! I am trying my best to update more frequently as well. My eventual goal is to be able to update every day.


Best,
Ava
 
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Thank you guys for sharing this, as a lot of the advice applies to Chaturbate fan clubs too.
I really want my fans to feel valued and enjoy my content.

I am a solo, nude, but non-explicit model.
After reading the mentioned review forum, and this,
I realized I may need to be more clear about what type of content I create.

A lot of the reviewers seemed really disappointed that the model didn't offer content with other models,
or explicit content, which I can understand. I am trying my best to work around that and create more interesting solo content.

I also lowered my prices as much as possibly I can
while still being fair to myself and my time.
The last thing I want would be for anybody to feel like they got ripped off.

Part of why models do price their content higher may be because they feel
"it took me a lot of time to make/edit this, I should charge based on that time."
(art is similar with pricing sometimes so that was my thought process.)
I don't take cell phone photos or videos. I put a lot of effort and thought into my content, even if it's non-explicit.

The photos and videos took me literally hours, sometimes all day to film. I use a DSLR camera,
Logitech Brio webcam, and photographic lighting. I don't use filters.

I also know a lot about photography, videography, and styling.



Also, I never leak uncensored content on Twitter, that wouldn't be fair to those who are paying for it.
I do post censored previews of nudes
(usually censored video screenshots that look way more 'low res' than the real thing so they can't get stolen.)
and special "safe for Twitter" photos such as feet for those that subscribe.

Do you guys think it would be a problem if a model charges a lot for nudes/lingerie as a solo creator,
BUT has a disclaimer so viewers know what they're getting?


I added a disclaimer to my page:

"Please note:
*
I do solo content only. I do not plan on changing that.
*
My videos are not long, but more longer videos coming soon. If you're a fan and have an idea for a video, please let me know!
*
Photos and videos include lingerie and nudes but mostly non explicit. Most photos don't show pussy. //// (they actually do but it's not a 'spread' or close up so I don't want people to feel mislead.)
*
You will NOT see pussy close-ups, anal, or dildos in my videos/photos that I upload for fan club. I just want to be honest about that."
//// (there is actually one video for fans that is slightly more explicit but I didn't want to advertise it so people don't feel disappointed.)


Also, how could a mostly non-explicit model justify a higher priced subscription? I price my fan club at the
lowest possible price that I personally feel ok with (it also includes free PM and cam watching.)

I don't want to lower my price any more, so I want to add value instead. If anybody has
suggestions, please let me know! I am trying my best to update more frequently as well. My eventual goal is to be able to update every day.


Best,
Ava

Hi Ava,
I'm not familiar with CB's fan clubs, so can't give a good answer based off what is offered in terms of cam experience. But, I have no issues with models who are topless only, non-explicit, or don't do pussy shots. One model I follow is non-nude, even in privates. Another is nude, but always angles her camera so you never get a direct view of her labia or anus. Though, she will do closeups while in panties or shorts (not see through).

From a camming perspective, it's more about the personality and how engaging the model is with the room than being explicit. There's so many ways a model can run her room that I think it's more about what you want to do and finding the crowd who'll follow you for what you provide.

When it comes to photo sets, it's more about the artistic appeal. Regardless of the level of the models undress, what catches my eye? Things like contrasting colours, focus of the lens, lighting, resolution, how the model places her in the photo, etc. are more likely to interest me than just a low quality explicit shot. Porn's available anywhere for free. If I'm paying for content, I'm looking for quality work. Even the "daily life" photos can be done well if just a bit of thought it given to how one might take a quick picture with a modern cell phone. I don't expect a model to use a DSLR for every photo, but it's nice to have clear photos. The exception is if the model intends to do a specific shoot themed in a way such as old time photos, or sensual low-light. But, these should be the exception and not the norm.

As to pricing, that's a very debated topic depending on the person. There's always those looking for the cheapest possible, and free isn't low enough for them. I would say most people are expecting a model to not undervalue herself. I'm more willing to pay a higher price when it's a model I know/follow, have an understanding of her work, puts thought and applies an artistic view as mentioned above. You're right in that it does take time to prepare for photos, any props that need to be purchased, equipment, etc. While I'm aware of these expenses, I generally don't think of them, as I already expect all of that to be a part of the cost of the photo shoot. But, I'm looking at a photoset as a potential purchase I look at quantity, quality of work, subject/model and make a decision based off of that.

In regards to OF, or others who try to sell something without a preview, think of it this way: You're in a store, and you see a plain brown box on the shelf. It's very unassuming, but because it's in a section of the store you enjoy you might be interested in it. But, you can't pick it up to feel how heavy it is, or shake it to see if there's anything in it because it's behind glass. You can't find someone to give you any idea what it is, and the price tag that's in front of it seems a bit high priced because you have no idea what's in it.

We all want value. We want to feel valued in what we do, and we want value in what we purchase. What that value is, depends on the individual. Price what you feel is fair to you, and how you think it'll sell. Adjust accordingly based on how people purchase. Some will always buy simply because it's you, while others will be a bit more particular and buy some. While others will pass.

Hope this answers your questions.
 

ava1992

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@ava1992_
Chaturbate Username
prettyartist1992
Thank you so much, ForceTen! :D!!
I feel so much better hearing your perspective on things
and appreciate you for taking the time to write that.
I love the box analogy and think it fits really well.

I think I way, way over-reacted to the onlyfans review page- I'm not even on onlyfans yet.
Even reading my post above, I'm thinking "wow I sound crazy." lol.


Upon thinking about it again, I realized that it's literally impossible to please everybody.
With EVERYTHING - restaurants, stores, etc...there will always be somebody who doesn't like it.
As long as a model isn't scamming people
then we can all choose to post what we want and for how much.

Best and seriously thank you. :)

Ava

PS.

(To models - please try to not do what I did and sit there scrolling freaking out thinking "will they review me next." lol.
Even if they do, NOBODY can please everybody. I have to remind myself of that all the time. It's the internet. There will
always be somebody who has something to say.)
 
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We do have an option to include a preview on paid DMs. I haven't experimented with it since the option was new and a bit glitchy, but I know it exists.


Be careful with any previews because one model I follow on OnlyFans, she meant to put photos as a preview and a video to purchase but somehow did it the other way around, so everyone on her subscriber list got a free 20 minute video. She didn't realise, but I did immediately message her to ask "are you sure this was how it should be" (because she was charging $XX for 3 photos and gave the video free, it made no sense). However, I didn't see the message for about 3 hrs after she had sent it, so obviously many would have seen it before she could retract it.

"Frequently promoting other models" - this for me is frustrating. I get it, but I have an entire feed of this shit, it's frustrating. Or I have it constantly in DMs, I have had to mute notifications to 2 women I subscribe to because they spam this shit in DM every day, 1 different model per day, that is too excessive.
With this same thing, I originally would "hide from feed" for individual ones promoting other models, but because there were so many (i am only following 4 or 5 models), I have also had to mute their entire feed from showing because of it.

That combined with excess amounts of DM selling product X Y and Z, is too much. I was getting push notifications so I would check, and it's just another promo.
 

AmberCutie

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Be careful with any previews because one model I follow on OnlyFans, she meant to put photos as a preview and a video to purchase but somehow did it the other way around, so everyone on her subscriber list got a free 20 minute video.
Yep it is kind of confusing how it works, you have to get both the video and the preview in the message then click the little arrows for each to get them where they go. Example: this took me like 10 clicks to get it right lol:
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Yep it is kind of confusing how it works, you have to get both the video and the preview in the message then click the little arrows for each to get them where they go. Example: this took me like 10 clicks to get it right lol:
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This is why I think previews should be a mandatory thing. If enough people are forced to do it, and it's a shitshow to get it to work, enough complaints will force it to be simpler. I don't know how MFC does it when it comes to the preview on videos, not sure if it's a random screencap or if it's something the model can do. But, it's one thing I do like in that it gives us potential buyers a preview of what we're getting.
 

AmberCutie

ACF Owner & Admin. (I don't work for CB.)
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This is why I think previews should be a mandatory thing. If enough people are forced to do it, and it's a shitshow to get it to work, enough complaints will force it to be simpler. I don't know how MFC does it when it comes to the preview on videos, not sure if it's a random screencap or if it's something the model can do. But, it's one thing I do like in that it gives us potential buyers a preview of what we're getting.
On MFC it generates a thumbnail automatically but you can change it once it's done.

I do wish OF would just put the screencap we've chosen on the video instead of making it a grey box of mystery. Life would be easier. I don't trust myself to do the manual preview thing right, so I post a screencap of the video on my timeline and refer to that in the paid DM text if they wish to see more details. (I also provide the link to the Share page for it on the timeline in case they want to buy it there instead, or to check if they already have it.**)
 

Brit

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I think you and Force have covered most, if not all, the main gripes. My personal worst peeves are:
  • creator only talking to you after you've posted a tip, otherwise he/she just ignores your casual pm's altogether.
I can understand if you're an introvert and pm-chatting or creating diverse content is not really your thing. But again, if you're an introvert you shouldn't be making OF if you can't keep up with it.

You can be an introvert and have a successful OF. I am a huge introvert. Probably most content creators are. I didn't spend all day every day chatting in private messages with people. My OF was successful. You should not feel like you have to chat with everyone all day every day. People should not expect this of you, unless you say that this is something people should expect from you. If someone writes you a message "hey bb, the weather outside is frightful, but thoughts of you are so delightful" you should not feel obligated to respond to this unless you want to! Casual messaging with people who do not tip you will eat up your time - time that could be put to better use elsewhere, such as making content. If people are not paying for your time, do not feel like you have to accommodate unless you have set expectations that you will or you really want to.
 

AmberCutie

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  • creator only talking to you after you've posted a tip, otherwise he/she just ignores your casual pm's altogether.

I can understand if you're an introvert and pm-chatting or creating diverse content is not really your thing. But again, if you're an introvert you shouldn't be making OF if you can't keep up with it.
You can be an introvert and have a successful OF. I am a huge introvert. Probably most content creators are. I didn't spend all day every day chatting in private messages with people. My OF was successful. You should not feel like you have to chat with everyone all day every day. People should not expect this of you, unless you say that this is something people should expect from you.
This. I do not list OF as a "chatting app" so it should not be expected. I'll reply to people's first few messages when they're new, or after they've sent a tip, but outside of that there's no way I'd be able to just sit on the site and chat to everyone all day if they treated it like a chat app.

It's a content sharing site. You sub to see daily content.

I'm pretty introverted, maybe less so in digital terms, but I do just fine on OF. Top 1%, around 750 fans at $12 sub price.
 

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Thank you guys for sharing this, as a lot of the advice applies to Chaturbate fan clubs too.
I really want my fans to feel valued and enjoy my content.

I am a solo, nude, but non-explicit model.
After reading the mentioned review forum, and this,
I realized I may need to be more clear about what type of content I create.

A lot of the reviewers seemed really disappointed that the model didn't offer content with other models,
or explicit content, which I can understand. I am trying my best to work around that and create more interesting solo content.

I also lowered my prices as much as possibly I can
while still being fair to myself and my time.
The last thing I want would be for anybody to feel like they got ripped off.

Part of why models do price their content higher may be because they feel
"it took me a lot of time to make/edit this, I should charge based on that time."
(art is similar with pricing sometimes so that was my thought process.)
I don't take cell phone photos or videos. I put a lot of effort and thought into my content, even if it's non-explicit.

The photos and videos took me literally hours, sometimes all day to film. I use a DSLR camera,
Logitech Brio webcam, and photographic lighting. I don't use filters.

I also know a lot about photography, videography, and styling.



Also, I never leak uncensored content on Twitter, that wouldn't be fair to those who are paying for it.
I do post censored previews of nudes
(usually censored video screenshots that look way more 'low res' than the real thing so they can't get stolen.)
and special "safe for Twitter" photos such as feet for those that subscribe.

Do you guys think it would be a problem if a model charges a lot for nudes/lingerie as a solo creator,
BUT has a disclaimer so viewers know what they're getting?


I added a disclaimer to my page:

"Please note:
*
I do solo content only. I do not plan on changing that.
*
My videos are not long, but more longer videos coming soon. If you're a fan and have an idea for a video, please let me know!
*
Photos and videos include lingerie and nudes but mostly non explicit. Most photos don't show pussy. //// (they actually do but it's not a 'spread' or close up so I don't want people to feel mislead.)
*
You will NOT see pussy close-ups, anal, or dildos in my videos/photos that I upload for fan club. I just want to be honest about that."
//// (there is actually one video for fans that is slightly more explicit but I didn't want to advertise it so people don't feel disappointed.)


Also, how could a mostly non-explicit model justify a higher priced subscription? I price my fan club at the
lowest possible price that I personally feel ok with (it also includes free PM and cam watching.)

I don't want to lower my price any more, so I want to add value instead. If anybody has
suggestions, please let me know! I am trying my best to update more frequently as well. My eventual goal is to be able to update every day.


Best,
Ava
Being up front with people about what they're getting is anyways good long term business strategy. But your disclaimer focusses on all the ways you percieve your content "lacks " rather than all the things it has to offer. Did you know there are members that prefer solo models? That prefer less hardcore content? When i watch cams for pleasure im looking for tease models personally.

From what you've written you seem to view what you do as something you can offer to a market kf people who want more explicit but maybe like you enough to deal with your boundries. Consider: the hardcore explicit content market is not your market. The dudes looking for hardcore anal can come get that from a model like me. There is an entirely separate market out there for what you're offering. One that wants EXACTLY what you're doing.

You asked about justifying higher pricing for doing less explicit. Again you're viewing explicitness as a scale that goes up in value the more explicit the item is. In fact its often the other way around. Hardcore content is often priced cheaper. You're selling to the masses. The strategy is sell 100 videos for $10 a pop. Tease, non explicit, artistic models OFTEN do far better with a higher price tag. They may sell 10 videos for $100. They occupy a niche that says "my stuff is high class, high quality, high value". People who buy non explicit content often are motivated by the idea that they are purchasing something of a higher caliber or class than every day stuff. The higher price tag will drive sales to people who want to feel that way when they buy.

The biggest tip i ever sent a girl $200 was to see the edge of her areola. It was worth it too. She was an incredible tease!!


You mentioned not telling members there's a small amount of more explicit content because you don't want to let them down. Consider that a member who is in your target market may feel surprised/mislead and not want to see explicit content. If i buy a non nude lingerie set from a girl... and she's nude... i learn that she didn't clearly advertise, and i also am sad i didn't get the tease i wanted...


Instead of a disclaimer, try sharing it as simple advertising info. Here's an example that covers the same info, no misleading expectations... with a very different tone.

In my club you will find
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I am a sexy solo creator. I share myself with you this way because it feels the most authentic. All my content is high quality video and pics, no crappy cell phone pics here!
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My club is filled with yummy bite sized videos to get you going. You won't want to miss some of the longer videos coming soon. If you're a fan and have an idea for a video, please let me know!
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I love showing off my body in ways that highlight my sensual sexual side. Inside you'll find artistic nudes and my sexiest lingerie. Softcore, sensual with a few little racier surprises in there.
*
 
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This. I do not list OF as a "chatting app" so it should not be expected. I'll reply to people's first few messages when they're new, or after they've sent a tip, but outside of that there's no way I'd be able to just sit on the site and chat to everyone all day if they treated it like a chat app.

Definitely. Models would be inundated with messages all day long if they were to respond to every one they get. I appreciate the time I spend with models, and I tip on the site where this happens. If it's a model that I follow on OF and MFC, it's usually whatever is relevant to where the discussion is going on.

The downside to OF though, is that they do market it as interacting with models when you subscribe. So, it's kind of a mixed message.
 

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Instead of a disclaimer, try sharing it as simple advertising info. Here's an example that covers the same info, no misleading expectations... with a very different tone.

In my club you will find
*
I am a sexy solo creator. I share myself with you this way because it feels the most authentic. All my content is high quality video and pics, no crappy cell phone pics here!
*
My club is filled with yummy bite sized videos to get you going. You won't want to miss some of the longer videos coming soon. If you're a fan and have an idea for a video, please let me know!
*
I love showing off my body in ways that highlight my sensual sexual side. Inside you'll find artistic nudes and my sexiest lingerie. Softcore, sensual with a few little racier surprises in there.
*
Hi Miss_Lollipop,

Thank you so much! :D

I feel a lot better now &
I think I am going to take the disclaimer down,
though I love the wording of this!! :) really nice and well-written!

I realized Chaturbate is different than Onlyfans in the sense that subscribers already have somewhat of an idea of your style.
So they know based on my shows that the fan club photos/videos will probably not be much different.

I apologize if my first post sounded really off. I wish I could delete it lol.

TBH I was just in a really anxious mood when I wrote that
and re-reading it , completely agree that the disclaimer sounds negative.
I wanted to prevent bad reviews...which is impossible.

I am taking today off to refocus- it was just an off day for me altogether.

It is helpful to think about it from a target audience perspective for sure. That helped!

I'm actually not even sure if I described my own style correctly as far as explicitness which can be a grey area.
And you are right that it goes both ways as far as misleading - I didn't think about the other way around admittedly.

My initial post came out of anxiety from reading the onlyfans reviews. I'm planning to join the site and have been doing research.

I saw that review page (couldn't help but search it out of curiousity ) &
thought "oh no, all these beautiful models with really low prices
are getting bad reviews, it's only a matter of time before they tell everybody
I'm a ripoff too." And that's just not true. Even if they did, I know it's just part of life.

Thank you again, I really do appreciate everything! With camming, even having been in it since April, there's still a lot I'm figuring out.
Best,
Ava
 
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But your disclaimer focusses on all the ways you percieve your content "lacks " rather than all the things it has to offer. Did you know there are members that prefer solo models? That prefer less hardcore content? When i watch cams for pleasure im looking for tease models personally.


Me. I am one of those.
The "Main 2" models I am subscribed to (and will continue to for as long as I can - one I purchased 12 months in advance for) are primarily solo. They do the occasional BG/GG/BBG etc but for me personally, I enjoy their solo content more. Any videos I have purchased are of solo scenes. I think you get to concentrate better on the model/woman when she is doing solo but of course, sometimes you do what a little different, so enjoy watching them do a couples scene.
 
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Me. I am one of those.
The "Main 2" models I am subscribed to (and will continue to for as long as I can - one I purchased 12 months in advance for) are primarily solo. They do the occasional BG/GG/BBG etc but for me personally, I enjoy their solo content more. Any videos I have purchased are of solo scenes. I think you get to concentrate better on the model/woman when she is doing solo but of course, sometimes you do what a little different, so enjoy watching them do a couples scene.

Similar, and is what I was referring to in my post above. I really enjoy a good tease, and the more sensual the better. A model does not have to be undressed, or even in lingerie, to be sensual as it's all about the seduction of the mind.

I primarily prefer solo content over G/G, and that more than I do B/G. But, every once in a while it is nice to mix it up. But, I'm also very selective on my G/G and B/G content.

Also should be noted that I am one who is willing to pay a higher price for quality work as @Miss_Lollipop mentioned. That is the value/bargain I was referring to. Though, even that has limits for me.
 
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Yep it is kind of confusing how it works, you have to get both the video and the preview in the message then click the little arrows for each to get them where they go. Example: this took me like 10 clicks to get it right lol:
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This was so confusing to me the other day, I don't understand why they couldn't make it a little more intuitive
 
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Yep it is kind of confusing how it works, you have to get both the video and the preview in the message then click the little arrows for each to get them where they go. Example: this took me like 10 clicks to get it right lol:
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They should simplify it and say:

Upload the preview first
Then browse again and upload your content to sell.

Surely it can't be that difficult can it?
 
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Can you elaborate on this one? Though I think we might have discussed it before. If a model has it for sale both on Share and on OF, what's wrong with that? You have the choice to purchase it at either place?

This. If I'm doing all of that work taking photos and recording videos, you'd better believe I'm posting them for sale on as many sites I'm on as I can. I don't make photos or vids exclusive to one site only.
 
Be careful with any previews because one model I follow on OnlyFans, she meant to put photos as a preview and a video to purchase but somehow did it the other way around, so everyone on her subscriber list got a free 20 minute video.

THIS is what I'm afraid of accidentally doing. So what I do is post the video for sale (with its price) first. And then right after that, I make a new post (can be viewed for free) that shows a screenshot from the video. And I make sure the screenshot NEVER shows tits/ass/pussy, because those are the goodies I feel one should be PAYING to see in the video (or pic set). If it's an ass clapping video, I'm making sure that screenshot is a shot of when the panties are still on.
 

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This. If I'm doing all of that work taking photos and recording videos, you'd better believe I'm posting them for sale on as many sites I'm on as I can. I don't make photos or vids exclusive to one site only.
That's another aspect that I don't think subscribers understand.
You have girls on OF that are doing online SW for the first time and you have women who have been are VETERANS in online SW and mastered the business aspect of it and are not "fucking for free". I'm subscribed (free and paid) to several OF content creators and you can tell who has done online SW before and who hasn't. No tea no shade. Even I still consider myself to still be a rookie and I've been at it off and on since 2016.
In my case, I never really sold content so whatever I put out will be OF exclusive. I will be putting out content from my phone and my webcam, but I know how to video edit in a way where it still looks good. Not only that, but a percentage of my earnings ALWAYS goes back into investing in my brand. I want my supporters to see my growth.
Today, it may be a webcam or phone pics, but next week or next month it may be 48MP pics and 4K HD video instead of 1080 HD video and 13-16MP pics with outstanding lighting I might add (I have 3 ring lights in my arsenal and a softbox light).
Plus, I do engage with my guys as much as I can.
What some of us may see as business strategy and would make sense for any business, some of these subscribers feel like they are being scammed. I would hope that the main takeaway from this post is to have a 2way dialogue between subscribers and content creators, so that they understand why we move the way we move.
Personally, I would never want a full length explicit video on my page without a paywall, but that's just me.



THIS is what I'm afraid of accidentally doing. So what I do is post the video for sale (with its price) first. And then right after that, I make a new post (can be viewed for free) that shows a screenshot from the video. And I make sure the screenshot NEVER shows tits/ass/pussy, because those are the goodies I feel one should be PAYING to see in the video (or pic set). If it's an ass clapping video, I'm making sure that screenshot is a shot of when the panties are still on.
 
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Yep it is kind of confusing how it works, you have to get both the video and the preview in the message then click the little arrows for each to get them where they go. Example: this took me like 10 clicks to get it right lol:
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I still haven't figured it out. I hate the posting interface.
 
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THIS is what I'm afraid of accidentally doing. So what I do is post the video for sale (with its price) first. And then right after that, I make a new post (can be viewed for free) that shows a screenshot from the video. And I make sure the screenshot NEVER shows tits/ass/pussy, because those are the goodies I feel one should be PAYING to see in the video (or pic set). If it's an ass clapping video, I'm making sure that screenshot is a shot of when the panties are still on.

That's what I had to do with my first 2 photo sets. If I tried to add a preview image it would make everything show for free!!!
 
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I still haven't figured it out. I hate the posting interface.

Yes. And I'm still having the issue where I'll post new pics or vids, and it will say "Your media is currently processing" for a good while. I have to reload the page to see that it actually did post. Also having that same issue with AVN Stars, except it seems to be worse for me on AVN Stars. I click the button to submit the post, and it won't budge (Like it's not registering). I have to reload the page to see that it did post. Weird.
 
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This is weird and annoying.
I mentioned previously that I had to mute 2 models because they constantly spam inbox with promotions for content and for other models. Yet, it still gives me push notifications for these 2 models. It's frustrating - i clearly shows they are muted. I don't want to turn off notifications as there are 2 models/women I love to see when they send new content or tag me.