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thickNchunky

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Vomit...seriously. I've seen so many cam girls get their accounts banned for providing this show, so they are forced to perform the show off-site or risk being banned. I vaguely recall an article stating that camsites prohibit these activities to appease payment processors like VISA, Mastercard? Then there are sites like fansly and justforfans that do allow dirty content but they use, if I am not mistaken, the same payment methods. How true is this and do you think this policy could change?
 
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Vomit...seriously. I've seen so many cam girls get their accounts banned for providing this show, so they are forced to perform the show off-site or risk being banned. I vaguely recall an article stating that camsites prohibit these activities to appease payment processors like VISA, Mastercard? Then there are sites like fansly and justforfans that do allow dirty content but they use, if I am not mistaken, the same payment methods. How true is this and do you think this policy could change?
I don't do that kind of show. Many clients record model shows without consent. And to see a video of me vomiting or pooping somewhere. Well, I'd rather go through the channels with shame.
 
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Because it's harmful to the performer.

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"Frequent self-induced vomiting causes dehydration, which can influence blood pressure and alter heart rate, specifically contributing to low blood pressure (hypotension) and causing a slower pulse rate (bradycardia) or an irregular heart rate (arrhythmia). In addition, self-induced vomiting contributes to electrolyte imbalances. The loss of stomach acid while vomiting contributes to abnormally low potassium levels in the blood (hypokalemia). Stomach acid can also contribute to dental cavities by eroding tooth enamel, lead to frequent heartburn, and abdominal pain or nausea. Frequent vomiting may cause a tear in the lining of the esophagus close to the stomach (a Mallory-Weiss tear) that may produce blood in vomit (hematemesis). The use of instruments or fingers to trigger gagging can lead to tears in the back of the throat, sore throat and frequent infections, and calluses may form on the back of the hand and knuckles (Russell’s sign) used to trigger gagging from frequent scraping against upper teeth. Patients who use self-induced vomiting can also experience more frequent upper respiratory infections if they accidentally inhale vomitus. Patients who vomit after taking medication, such as antidepressants, may not achieve therapeutic doses. The repeated use of self-induced vomiting can weaken the muscle at the base of the esophagus and contribute to the development of gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) as a complication. Finally, some patients develop swelling around their cheeks and jawline due to swelling of salivary glands (parotid glands). Taken together, vomiting can lead to a vicious cycle in which its physical consequences (“chipmunk cheeks,” abdominal bloating, and weakened muscles at the base of the esophagus) contribute to more frequent vomiting which increase severity of medical consequences."
 

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Then there are sites like fansly and justforfans that do allow dirty content

Vomit and excrement is against their TOS. But like with any content that goes against TOS, there’s still going to be people who either don’t read the TOS for the site they’re on and don’t know any better or they know and just don’t care, so they post content that is against the site’s rules.

do you think this policy could change?

No.
 

thickNchunky

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I will never understand these kind of fetishes. Just why?
different strokes for different folks?. Maybe it is the choking, the gag reflex or I've associated it with blowjobs etc...I can't explain why it gets me hard, but it definitely gets me hard :)

Y'all really think it is against TOS to protect models from harm? I think you are giving too much credit to these camsites. You are implying that fansly etc don't consider the safety of their members?...which could be true idk. Anyways thanks for the feedback, maybe I am just way off base
 

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I will never understand these kind of fetishes. Just why?

I know extreme bjs where the performer vomits are somewhat popular. I've seen clips like that slip through the cracks on some clip sites, and they normally shoot to the top of the top clips list/have tons of views. I think for some people it's the extreme nature of it, for others it's the fact that it can be pretty degrading to the performer.

I'm personally glad that sites don't allow this kind of content. The fact that when they do pop up (before they hopefully get taken down) they obviously sell well can encourage more naïve creators to try to replicate that, which can lead to some serious health issues and in some cases can even be fatal.

Plus, I personally don't want to see someone with their face covered in vomit (which has popped up a few times throughout the years when I've browsed clip sites) and I doubt the majority of clip site members want to see that either.
 
Y'all really think it is against TOS to protect models from harm?
Certainly it helps protect the platforms from financial harm, removing some responsibility if someone breaks TOS and something bad happens as a result. I know they are concerned with that aspect, if not the more ethical concerns raised by banned behaviors.
 

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You are implying that fansly etc don't consider the safety of their members?

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Screenshot from fansly.com/tos under prohibited uses.

They don’t allow that kind of content. Like I said before, the people who post that content either haven’t read the TOS or they just don’t care. I think most models know stuff of that nature isn’t allowed on essentially any mainstream clip/cam/subscription site. I can think of one site that allowed stuff of that nature. I’m actually not even sure if it’s still around, since they seemed to always have issues with paying models out.
 

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I know extreme bjs where the performer vomits are somewhat popular. I've seen clips like that slip through the cracks on some clip sites, and they normally shoot to the top of the top clips list/have tons of views. I think for some people it's the extreme nature of it, for others it's the fact that it can be pretty degrading to the performer.
i do lots of extreme deepthroat shows, and it is frequently requested/encouraged. im not surprised. those eat weird shit and vomit youtube videos are hella popular.

different strokes for different folks?. Maybe it is the choking, the gag reflex or I've associated it with blowjobs etc...I can't explain why it gets me hard, but it definitely gets me hard :)
choking and gagging sure, but i'm in the belief if your kink/fetish is known for long-term causing bodily harm maybe it's time to go speak to a therapist about it. especially if that kink/fetish includes other people performing the said kink/fetish.
 

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choking and gagging sure
I'm totally fine with people enjoying that sort of visual stimulation. Vomit and poop on the otherhand, I don't apologize for kink-shaming about. It's disgusting and has no place on legal cam sites or content sites.

maybe it's time to go speak to a therapist about it
if you're into that sort of stuff... ^^this
 

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When it comes to the safety issues associated with vomiting, I would wager to guess there is probably a way to mitigate some of the long-term risks, I haven't done much research or a medical professional. Sure if a model is constantly puking for 8 hours a day, I'd bet there would be damage to some extent.

For the kink-shaming, I couldn't care less, you're entitled to your own opinion. I've heard anecdotes and forum accounts of emetophobes turning into emetophiles, there is a fine line between disgust and lust.
 

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I think one thing i didnt realize when i startwd camming was the difference between doing things that are risky as an occasional thing vs as your job. Example: bdsm folks who like spanking with heavy bruising. Its harmful .. but its something you're doing sometimes then healing from. But when this is your job day in and day out, its not healthy to offer that om the regular. And because vomit is taboo if you offer it you're going to be inundated with requests. And doing it regularly is not good.

In terms of why sites dont allow it , paent processors restrict sites from anything remotely harmful. My main niche right now is hypnosis and sites ban even roleplay hypno. So if they're banning that them they are of course banning more extreme stuff like vomit.


The clients who like vomit and scat are so often boundry pushers who enjoy hurting or seeing us in distress. It sucks.
 

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The clients who like vomit and scat are so often boundry pushers who enjoy hurting or seeing us in distress. It sucks.
also this.

I can't help but think people who ask for those things are harmful to us in general
 

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And because vomit is taboo if you offer it you're going to be inundated with requests. And doing it regularly is not good.

This ^^

When it comes to the safety issues associated with vomiting, I would wager to guess there is probably a way to mitigate some of the long-term risks

The best way to mitigate those risks is to not do it. @AudriTwo ’s post highlighted all the risks. Just think about how serious of an illness bulimia is. Or even when someone gets a bad stomach virus. Dehydration is a short term risk, but still incredibly dangerous. If someone is doing it daily it can lead to lifelong heart problems. If someone accidentally inhales it they can choke or it can cause a lung infection which can be deadly if not treated.

There’s way too much risk involved to the performer, and someone who is new or in desperate need of money may not see those risks at the time if they’re getting a ton of requests for those kinds of shows.

It’s definitely a good thing it’s banned.
 

thickNchunky

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This ^^



The best way to mitigate those risks is to not do it. @AudriTwo ’s post highlighted all the risks. Just think about how serious of an illness bulimia is. Or even when someone gets a bad stomach virus. Dehydration is a short term risk, but still incredibly dangerous. If someone is doing it daily it can lead to lifelong heart problems. If someone accidentally inhales it they can choke or it can cause a lung infection which can be deadly if not treated.

There’s way too much risk involved to the performer, and someone who is new or in desperate need of money may not see those risks at the time if they’re getting a ton of requests for those kinds of shows.

It’s definitely a good thing it’s banned.
sure, the best way to eliminate any risk is to not engage in the risky activity. Heart problems? A quick google search says that is due to a loss of electrolytes, so perhaps drink a gatorade after...? Probably best to speak to a doctor or even an experienced performer on how best to proceed.
 
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Lol dude i have chronic nausea and vomiting from an autoimmune disease. It gave me heart issues from less than a year of dealing with those symptoms. My doctor had to put me on medication so i wouldnt die. My blood pressure is fucked up.

You arent going to convince anyone frequently throwing up is totes alright because you did a poor google search.
 

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As someone who had issues with ED especially bulimia, fuck off. The idea of someone getting off on a serious self harm act is revolting. Those with bulimia are already struggling with a ton of deep issues and don't need some prick who tells us to "just drink some Gatorade" so he can wank his puny dick over our pain.

It's against TOS. End of story.
 
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As someone who had issues with ED especially bulimia, fuck off. The idea of someone getting off on a serious self harm act is revolting. Those with bulimia are already struggling with a ton of deep issues and don't need some prick who tells us to "just drink some Gatorade" so he can wank his puny dick over our pain.

It's against TOS. End of story.
This is one of my responses - talk to someone who has or had bulimia. The effects on the body are real both immediate and long term,vomiting is an emergency response not intended to be repeated on a regular basis.
 

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sure, the best way to eliminate any risk is to not engage in the risky activity. Heart problems? A quick google search says that is due to a loss of electrolytes, so perhaps drink a gatorade after...? Probably best to speak to a doctor or even an experienced performer on how best to proceed.


well if you think so then vomit yourself and register it , and then masturbate on your own body distruction ! dont make other people destroy their bodys for your sick fetish !
 
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sure, the best way to eliminate any risk is to not engage in the risky activity. Heart problems? A quick google search says that is due to a loss of electrolytes, so perhaps drink a gatorade after...? Probably best to speak to a doctor or even an experienced performer on how best to proceed.
Did your search mention Barrett's Aesophagus?
 

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As someone who had issues with ED especially bulimia, fuck off. The idea of someone getting off on a serious self harm act is revolting. Those with bulimia are already struggling with a ton of deep issues and don't need some prick who tells us to "just drink some Gatorade" so he can wank his puny dick over our pain.

It's against TOS. End of story.
?? Your attention-seeking behavior is cringe, get a bf/gf. I am sure you're a nice lady when you are not triggered.

For the rest of the replies, I am not trying to discount the effects of bulimia etc, I can acknowledge it. What is also true is that there are pornstars/models that vomit and have been doing it for an extended period of time. Both are true, so I think it is best to speak to an experienced performer or preferably a doctor before engaging in said activity.
 

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For the rest of the replies, I am not trying to discount the effects of bulimia etc, I can acknowledge it. What is also true is that there are pornstars/models that vomit and have been doing it for an extended period of time. Both are true, so I think it is best to speak to an experienced performer or preferably a doctor before engaging in said activity.
Whether it's bulimia or pornstars doing it for work, vomitting frequently is vomitting frequently. Different cause, same result.

Are you seriously suggesting that a cam model go to a doctor and ask "I want to intentionally vomit multiple times a week for the next few years, can I get the all clear?"? You reckon that's gonna be a "yes, go ahead"?

There is no difference between this kind of self harm and any other. There are fetishes for knife use: would you consider that OK for models to be doing on the regular? Just check with an experienced cam model or doctor first?