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    Who are you voting for?

    It's not like I don't already know any of this or consider this is my point. "HAHAHAHHA SO DEEPLY MISLED" is a bit unnecessary. I've never said anything to give the impression of that. I've repeatedly talked about US foreign involvement and poor strategies in like.. every topic related. But I...
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    Who are you voting for?

    Uh huh. because I don't know anyone that ever helped rebuild anything in a foreign country alongside our allies. Give me a break. I also don't forget about good people dying when Obama blows up a hospital in afghanistan by accident. Temporarily Removing myself due to personal involvement and...
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    Who are you voting for?

    Everyone can agree there is a place for welfare, everyone can also agree that it's intended to be a temporary thing and that you have to work more towards eliminating the need for it than making it a permanent state.
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    Who are you voting for?

    I know... I went off about stuff, but what I'm trying to point out is it's all related. And it's all the same point. It's not directed at anyone in particular. But it's all the same thing. Because the hypothetical suburban connecticut "liberal" that I'm talking about... is the same person who'll...
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    Who are you voting for?

    The difference is people send people to help people over there to rebuild their own countries. We already send our soldiers over there to die supposedly helping good guys fight the bad guys. So now we stop doing that... let the bad guys have all of Iraq for example, fuggit,... and just invite...
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    Who are you voting for?

    Ok but we haven't. I haven't. Detroit hasn't. Michigan hasn't. SO I'll worry about the people already still here first. That is my point. But someone in suburban connecticut might tell me I don't care about the refugees or I'm Islamaphobic and I'm going to lose my shit lol. Because it's not...
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    Who are you voting for?

    I did not even mention Trump. But I am being realistic in terms of policy.. Europe wasn't taking in too many people at first either... But this also applies to when I say things don't always come from a place of bigotry. Do I think the little arab american kids shooting their toy guns at me...
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    Who are you voting for?

    It sounds nice in theory, but it's consequentially dangerous. If you do not repair a stagnating economy, that is still stuck under pre-recession levels, and propose mass influx of homeless penniless people, (to greater numbers than currently, the amount of people displaced, are in the...
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    Who are you voting for?

    Just to add to my other post. People like me would rather be able to get someone hired by making more real jobs so that they don't die selling drugs or something instead. In history this is proven more successful at changing things for the better than bigger government programs. So by being more...
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    Who are you voting for?

    Sort of. But also most people become "tougher" or whatever a result of being too sensitive. It's like clashing with conservative parents thinking they must be horrible people or something "Because they just don't care!!" and then realizing they overcame many obstacles you(meaning me.. or anyone)...
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    Who are you voting for?

    The difference is simple as this. (And I count myself as one of the people that's always been good at toeing the line, I don't think either group is an idiot and I can tell why both think certain things because I thought them too) I will look at the difference between someone who makes it "out...
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    Who are you voting for?

    It does have to come from within. You have to feel a reason to want or be invested in your own community... which many Americans just don't anymore. For a multitude of reasons. But if you feel like getting depressed about Detroit... "what do you see as the main problem right now?" "killing"...
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    Who are you voting for?

    Exactly that is what is so evil about it. Because on the surface if you don't think about it critically he's painting himself as this big humanitarian!! Like broken city! lost refugees! BOOM! I saved the world! Go me! No.... no Bill, you're just a dick.
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    Who are you voting for?

    I understand this is Bill... not Hillary.... and they are two different people... but let's keep it real. They share politics. Start the vid somewhere around 8 minutes up until 11 min. This is the warped logic that I cannot wrap my head around... Ok... he talks about how in some places in the...
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    Who are you voting for?

    Yes I understand it, I disagree with it. It's better to have people want to be where they are then just end up anywhere else by default.
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    Who are you voting for?

    But I forgot... I'm from the magical happy places where no one ever sacrificed or worked hard to get out from under bad circumstances or fought to accomplish great goals... they all must just get "lucky" and win the lotto or something. /s ok I think I've gotten all of that out of my system. :D
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    Who are you voting for?

    But here's the shocker that doesn't often make the news... some of them like Trump. :wideyed: Some of them are Muslim and don't want terrorism to sneak in either... some of them are Mexican and want America to get a better control drug trafficking... etc etc.
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    Who are you voting for?

    I also like the concept of running America like a business... maybe the program before is like a "quit America" severance package, or a better get into America interview process... ponders ponders... EDIT: "something something ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for...
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    Who are you voting for?

    Of course, but that's the idea behind a vetting process...It's almost as simple as being like so... where do you want to go? America? Canada? France? if the answer is "I don't effing care just please get me out of here!!" It's like.... Oh... *side eye* you know?
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    Who are you voting for?

    But also it wasn't just Immigrants, it was Americans from other parts of the country that are a bit easier to live in. Or pursue this American Dream. Also figure that was dated 2009, immediately after the banking crisis, where I know for example, my own company at the time had a hiring freeze...
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