A bus driver in Gothenburg, western Sweden swerved to avoid a squirrel and then crashed into a grove of trees leaving six of his 40 passengers requiring hospital treatment for minor injuries. What would you have done? Link
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You joke about this, but there are many people who have died trying to avoid a 100 pound deer by swerving into a tree. Sometimes the best option is to maintain current heading but to brake hard. A squirrel isn't dangerous to hit. A deer can be dangerous, sometimes, but usually not. Certainly hitting a deer is less dangerous than hitting a tree or an oncoming 18 wheeler. Now, a moose will fuck you up. You're almost better off hitting a tree than a moose.
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I am curious to see what HarmlessSquirrel has to say about this. :mrgreen:
My dad was a long haul truck driver (in Canada and retired now) and often drove through the Canadian Rockies, Over the years he has hit his share of wildlife, the biggest was a bull moose, hit it straight on with no time to brake (it came out of thick brush right onto the road). It crushed the front hood to bits and pushed the front steel bumper (older Mack truck before fibreglass coverings) in 6 inches. Luckily there was light traffic and on a fairly straight part of the road so it never caused a pileup. He always says that was the only accident he was in where the truck had to be towed.bawksy said:
I remember getting almost the exact same warning out at yellowstone from park rangers about the Bison. You may just think you're in a hurry to get past some of the open prairie boring spots of the park, but an 1800 pound animal charging your car at 30 mph can correct that attitude really fast. :lol:bawksy said:
What if it was your squirrel? :lol:
But seriously. I would think it would be difficult not to try and swerve and miss a squirrel in many circumstances. It is a natural reaction in most of us to try to avoid running over things in the road. I would hope the training and requirements for driving other people would include not trying to avoid things in the road at the cost of the safety of your passengers.
The crazy thing thing is there is a, higher than I thought, percentage of people that will go out of their way to hit things in the road:
But seriously. I would think it would be difficult not to try and swerve and miss a squirrel in many circumstances. It is a natural reaction in most of us to try to avoid running over things in the road. I would hope the training and requirements for driving other people would include not trying to avoid things in the road at the cost of the safety of your passengers.
The crazy thing thing is there is a, higher than I thought, percentage of people that will go out of their way to hit things in the road:
I remember reading somewhere that if a deer crosses your path unexpectedly, the worse thing to do is to try and swerve or brake....that the best thing to do is just plow right into it. Drive through the obstacle so to speak. So one day I am driving my van to the mountain (it is a curvy dark isolated hwy) and I am cruising along following the turns the road makes and was surprised by a family of deer right in the middle of the road practically. It was a 45 mph or so curve and the biggest one (prob the mama) was right in front of me and I almost stepped on the brake but then I guess I remembered what I read in that split second and I gripped the steering wheel HARD and punched the gas instead. I was hitting the deer no matter what, and there was NO WAY I could swerve or I would have tumbled right off the mountain and crashed into a bunch of trees on the way. I think I hit the big one in the shoulder area, but I didn't really feel it as hard as I thought I would. I pulled over at the next little town and called the chp to report that I hit it cuz there was no way I could stop to see what happened to the damn deer and her poor family (it was late at night and no moon at all, creepy and dangerous place to stop). I felt terrible but I guess my instincts were right on that occasion and it could have been A LOT worse.bawksy said:
Of course when I got to the mountain and told my Charliebb and our friend about what happened, all I heard for weeks was how I probably killed Bambi's mom....talk about a guilt trip!
Well, if you're a bus driver, your responsibility is the safety of the passengers. That said, most of the time a squirrel will run out of the way. They're panicky little fuckers. Deer will just stand there because they're hypnotized by your headlights. Moose will just stand there because they are the dumbest fucking creatures on Earth.
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If I can't swerve for a small animal in the road, then I'll attempt to straddle it so it doesn't die and I don't have to wash my car
My friend ran over a dead deer while he was texting. Fucked up his car. Don't text and drive kids!
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Growing up my mom hit a deer in our lincoln town car and killed it. Called the game warden and he came out and saw that it wasn't on purpose, so we had the option of paying the $12 hunting license fee and taking the deer home with us. She had one person give her a bad time about killing a poor deer. She invited him over for a steak dinner.
I have hit one deer, but my mother hits them at least once a year it seems. Deer are one of the more annoying things about living away from the city, if you drive around when the sun is still down at least.
Let's face it. Squirrels is tasty...and they make nice little thump thump sounds.RogueWarrior said:
Another good tip maybe? Turn off the lights for a moment and that eliminates the headlight hypnosis and gives the animals a chance to regain their wits and get the fuck out of there...
Living in Canada you tend to see alot of wildlife on the roads at night in most western provinces, especially back roads. This tip has saved my and many other lives, if you see an animal on the road, immediately TURN OFF YOUR LIGHTS.
This only has to be for brief moment as it will break the hypnotizing effects of the lights. This advice has allowed me to miss more than a few deer and a family of mountain goats in Banff National Park.
Once the lights go out all they hear is a big thing rushing towards them and they scatter. Now of course nothing is 100% but after telling a friend about this trick, I was awoken on one trip as she slammed on the brakes, just to see her turn the lights back on and 5 little goat butts running off the road. We passed them still going about 80 KM/h but they were already on the side of the road tearing through the ditch on their way to safety.
Hopefully this can help save some deer.
http://everything2.com/title/What+to+do+if+a+deer+jumps+out+in+front+of+your+car
As others have said, since a bus driver is responsible for the safety of all their passengers, I'd definitely have to just hit the squirrel. I would then have to pull over at the earliest safe convenience to sob.
When I was living in *very* northern Ontario where moose were a major hazard on the road, most people used "moose whistles" on their vehicles; when the vehicle is in motion, the air rushes through the whistles to create a sound that alerts moose, deer, and other such creatures to your presence. They will then (usually) freeze on the side of the road instead of running into it.
When I was living in *very* northern Ontario where moose were a major hazard on the road, most people used "moose whistles" on their vehicles; when the vehicle is in motion, the air rushes through the whistles to create a sound that alerts moose, deer, and other such creatures to your presence. They will then (usually) freeze on the side of the road instead of running into it.
The only thing I've hit with my car is an old lady who stepped out into the road in front of me. Wet road, driving at 35mph with pretty much know breaking distance.
I managed to run over her twice though. I'd only been driving a few months, and in my panic I got out of my car and called an ambulance. Realised my front nearside wheel was on her leg, so got myself back in the car. Except I'd forgotten to put the car in neutral in my rush to get out. Turn on the ignition, and the car jerks forward going over her again...
Not my finest moment.
I managed to run over her twice though. I'd only been driving a few months, and in my panic I got out of my car and called an ambulance. Realised my front nearside wheel was on her leg, so got myself back in the car. Except I'd forgotten to put the car in neutral in my rush to get out. Turn on the ignition, and the car jerks forward going over her again...
Not my finest moment.
Would you mind saying what town you live in? I don't want to stalk you, i just want to avoid your driving area. :shock:Misono said:
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