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I'm surprised there seems to be some offence taken by Mavs description of the kind of girl he is seeking

Surely you're allowed to discriminate when it comes to your own sexual partners?

Obviously he could of worded some things better, the post was quintessential "man" lol

As a professional (we assume, given that he presented himself as an established model with experience) model, one knows that first impressions and selling yourself are pretty damn important. It's possible to recover from a flubbed sales pitch but it takes a bit of work.

I, for one, tried to assist in the only aspect I could salvage from his true intentions since it was only clearly conveyed that he did not seek monetary profit or business assistance; merely a "practice" partner to hopefully aid his Adult Film aspirations in the long run. This is not inherently a bad thing, but it's essentially just looking to get laid, if we're being honest. So in that essence, yes, one can absolutely discriminate in sexual partners, but overtly lying about intent when trying to lure in young women (including teenagers) is just flat out disgusting. Business is business - consenting adults performing, certain personalities and/or looks working together, some matches work, some don't. Any other intentions... kinda gets a bit sketchy.


If we could just drop the "quintessential 'man'" stereotype, just as a culture, I think we would get a lot fewer misinterpretations like this. It's not manly to obfuscate one's intentions - it's either sexual predation or just bad advertising. Unfortunately, neither of those options are really preferable...


I don't want to keep dwelling on all this or keep poking a hornet's nest, I just think it's very important to learn from what went wrong here and why. Misconceptions, misinterpreted intentions, all that kinda stuff and the fallout following it can easily be avoided by just... communicating a little bit clearer. But hindsight's 20/20, right?
 
As a professional (we assume, given that he presented himself as an established model with experience) model, one knows that first impressions and selling yourself are pretty damn important.

Don't you think in a way, the post was (maybe unintentionally) very honest about who he is?

That's good isn't it, he isn't misleading anyone by pretending, he is who he is and if you don't like his post then you wouldn't suit camming with him.
 
@MFCGod - I see what you're getting at. As I said, my qualms all along have been with deceit and contradictory intentions. You are absolutely right that if this is who he truly is (as we're talking about him behind his back as if he's not here), he is probably not a top-notch gentleman you want to bring home to Mum... My pursuits following my attempts to help have been genuinely out of concern for the safety of models who might actually buy into this, which really just feels like a scam. Camming is a business and this aspect of the business (behind the scenes, where the members rarely see), is and should be treated professionally. A public lack of professionalism like this, when left unchecked, kinda affirms this behavior and makes it... socially acceptable-ish behavior for males, as addressed earlier. I think we agree this is not acceptable and is potentially risky behavior, so I think we've kinda covered all bases.
 
Anybody else see Mav's pic and read his initial post and immediately think of The Todd from Scrubs?

Also, @DeezNA, god love ya man, but you gotta relax sometimes. Men and women are equals, abso-fucking-lutely. But they're also very different, and it's okay to joke about those differences. Some generalizations about men and women are true more often than not, and sometimes they can be funny. The world isn't gonna end if we laugh. @MFCGod was just making a funny. Nothing wrong with that.

@mynameisbob84 I don't know whether it was the one-liner or the fact that you used an Arrested Development gif, but I wanna make sweet passionate man-love to ya.

@msbiancabaker The jury is back; deliberations took less than a minute. You were convicted of being smoking hot at any age. And the judge (that's me) agrees that hot comes in many ages, shapes and sizes.
 
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All I know is this thread has finally given me confidence to throw my Logitech C310 into the ring and announce The Jerry is ready to make the sexy boing boing videos with some ladies of the camming world. Only hot 24 to 28 year olds with atomic turquoise hair need apply. Others may apply as well, but those meeting that criteria need to apply. All interested candidates will be entered into a raffle drawing where I assure you everyone will be a winner.

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Some generalizations about men and women are true more often than not, and sometimes they can be funny. The world isn't gonna end if we laugh. @MFCGod was just making a funny. Nothing wrong with that.

True, the world isn't going to end if we laugh at it generalizations like that. Then again, if all we do with harmful stereotypes is shrug them off as a joke, we won't make a lot of progress as far as equality goes, you know?

shrugs* Just my two cents. I'll get back in the kitchen now.
 
Mav man. You wasted a good opportunity at learning here. You could have asked questions of how not to come off so egotistical and maybe even redeemed yourself right off the bat. Instead you just basically threw a semi fit and said bye....why? This is the sex industry and with that many things go but what stays is still professionalism. So when you act less than that of course you're not going to be met well by your peers who do act professional and with decorum. That's in any job. Even fun ones. And when asking someone to work with you in any work place setting no one is gonna wanna when you come off as judgey or better than. Make sense?

It's absolutely fine to have an idea of what will work on cam with yourself. We all do. Even when looking for another girl a lot will mention wanting someone similar in body type or style of camming. Nothing wrong with that but it is how you say it that takes it from preference to a bit offensive and singling out. One is professional and one is not. No girl in her right mind is gonna open her legs on cam to someone who can't take criticism online, or shows a lack of respect in a post where he has all the time to think before he types. As someone who has done couples camming I can tell you your ad would make me never go near you.

And "Deepthroaters:eyebrows: and cock worshipers go straight to the top of the list"?? Really? This just shows your complete lack of fully understanding the difference of camming and porn.
 
True, the world isn't going to end if we laugh at it generalizations like that. Then again, if all we do with harmful stereotypes is shrug them off as a joke, we won't make a lot of progress as far as equality goes, you know?

shrugs* Just my two cents. I'll get back in the kitchen now.

Lol...if you took what I said to mean in any way that you need to "get back in the kitchen" then that was you reading what you wanted to into it, not what I actually said.

Laughing about some of the common behaviors of men and women - like a dude being kind of clueless - is not perpetuating "harmful stereotypes." Perpetuating a harmful stereotype is automatically assuming that a man believes women belong in the kitchen.

If this is how you feel, I suggest you never, ever watch a stand-up comic.
 
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Lol...if you took what I said to mean in any way that you need to "get back in the kitchen" then that was you reading what you wanted to into it, not what I actually said.

Laughing about some of the common behaviors of men and women - like a dude being kind of clueless - is not perpetuating "harmful stereotypes." Perpetuating a harmful stereotype is automatically assuming that a man believes women belong in the kitchen.

If this is how you feel, I suggest you never, ever watch a stand-up comic.
Dude pretty sure she was making a joke with that.... No need to poop on her for it.
 
Dude pretty sure she was making a joke with that.... No need to poop on her for it.

But...but...there's no joking allowed when it comes to men and women.
 
But...but...there's no joking allowed when it comes to men and women.
That's not what she said though. Just saying and I can't speak for her.
 
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