What the Hell do I Know?

[RogueWarrior]

I have noticed over my time here on ACF that quite a few questions appear in the public section of the forums concerning what models can do to increase their camscore/room count/token intake/whatever.

While all questions are valid and are likely to get an honest response, the fact remains that no one can give a magic formula.

Personally, I could click across the to three rows of MFC at any given time and find maybe two models that I have an interest in. I could also do the same with page two.

What works for one, will not necessarily work for another. And vice versa.

There are certain things that are universal, but really, how much do the top models have in common? Other than they have tons of regs. How did they get those? For each is different.

I could give you a blueprint of what MY ultimate camgirl would be, as could every other member. There would consensus on some things, but for the most part it would be a mishmash. Other models can tell you what works for them, but it is because it fits their personality.

From being a member of this forum, one thing I've have come to realize is that camming is not easy. It takes a lot of work for it to be successful. While the good ones make it look easy, there is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes that not many are aware of.

And I'm going to end on a downer. Maybe, just maybe, camming is not right for you. Not everyone can be a hit. If that were the case, everyone would be doing it.

 

[AmberCutie]

And I'm going to end on a downer. Maybe, just maybe, camming is not right for you. Not everyone can be a hit. If that were the case, everyone would be doing it.

It may sound harsh, but it has to be said. There have definitely been times I wanted to point this out, but... it isn't a piece of truth that a girl takes well.

Last episode of Mad Men, this line was said.

“Not every little girl gets to do what they want, the world cannot support that many ballerinas.”

It's very true.

 

[Evvie]

I'm with you on this one, Rogue. We might see 20 new models logged in on MFC at any one time. For ever new model, are there 20 new paying members that are going to sign up and support her?

I would be very surprised if a model who signed up on two or three camsites, worked on Camwhores, C4S, ELM and/or MGF, and put 8 hours a day in to camming could not make a living wage.

However, I think there are too many models who see top models on MFC, sign up, and believe that with the right "formula" they can start earning two or three hundred dollars an hour.

There's only so much research will do for you. I do not think every woman born on this earth has the skill set it takes to be a cam model. There also seems to be a large number of models who only want to work on MFC and not try out other sites. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course - but many models who fail on MFC would do perfectly well on a different site.

Nobody wants to say it, but everyone isn't cut out for everything. :dontknow:

 

[stu2]

Thanks to OP for clarifying some of my thoughts about these issues, as being fairly new to MFC I have been puzzled at times when I visit a models room after doing a filtered search and reach for next model button with a sense of unease. At times I have thought oh but all the parts are there very attractive model (for my taste) good cam, good sound, model was being interactive with room and most of the time I would shrug and think oh maybe bad day/night/hour for her or who knows what happened in room 5 minutes before I entered? But yes I am sure some of that unease comes from just sensing that model is just not comfortable doing what she is doing. A sense I could just not put my finger on before.

Suppose cam life is like real life, if your at a party and chat with someone and get the feeling the person does not really want to be there, is not comfortable there, not interested in being there you make polite conversation and move on.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I'm pretty much with you Rogue there is no magic formula that will get me to notice or tip you. Much less convince the 95%+ of the guys who spend less money than I or no money to become premium.

On the other hand when I when I look at girl with a low cam score at least 75% of the time I can tell after 10 minutes in the room why their cam score are low, and more often than not, how hot the girl is relatively minor factor. I imagine this has been discussed a lot so I won't bother repeating all of the things not do while camming, but it is worth reviewing them and perhaps having a model, or some ACF member check your room out to give you some honest feedback, on any bad habits you have or have developed.

I read this advice on another model forum. The model had this quote printed out and stuck on her computer and on the refrig.

If I don't log on I won't make money

Yes I realize there are exception and in the case of MFC and if you are making no money you are probably better to log off. Never the less I am sure you all have had horrible nights turn around with the addition of one or two awesome new tippers. I think it is virtually impossible to predict when these guys will enter your room, but if you aren't online, I can confidently predict they won't enter.

 

[schlmoe]

And I'm going to end on a downer. Maybe, just maybe, camming is not right for you. Not everyone can be a hit. If that were the case, everyone would be doing it.

It may sound harsh, but it has to be said. There have definitely been times I wanted to point this out, but... it isn't a piece of truth that a girl takes well.

Last episode of Mad Men, this line was said.

“Not every little girl gets to do what they want, the world cannot support that many ballerinas.”

It's very true.

This is also true for other fields. Look at acting. To be successful, it takes a combination of looks, personality, hard work and luck (sound familiar ). In the US, there are tens of thousands of men and women who consider themselves "actors", but have barely made a dime out of it. And a number of them have kept at it for 10-20 years of more, still looking for their "big break".

That quote from Mad Men made me laugh and think of my nephew. He just laid out $50k to a online degree mill via student loans. Its a 2-year program leading to a basket-weaving degree. He is convinced that when he completes the program, he will be immediately launched into the realm of riches. On the other hand, I am convinced that he will be paying the loans off with his social security checks (if that still exists in 40+ years) and eating cat food.

So let me adjust this for real life: "Not every little boy or girl gets to do what they want, the world cannot support that many basket-weavers"

Old school version: Just because you have an avocation, there is no guarantee (or right) that it will be your vocation.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

And I'm going to end on a downer. Maybe, just maybe, camming is not right for you. Not everyone can be a hit. If that were the case, everyone would be doing it.

It may sound harsh, but it has to be said. There have definitely been times I wanted to point this out, but... it isn't a piece of truth that a girl takes well.

Last episode of Mad Men, this line was said.

“Not every little girl gets to do what they want, the world cannot support that many ballerinas.”

It's very true.

Agreed. Though I am one of the "low score models". I've done several things to improve my numbers. However, I don't just sit around waiting, looking bored, and getting pissed off and begging when I haven't started a show after an hour. Personality, is the main thing. You have to draw them in and make them want to tip you. Unfortunately, there isn't any real "training program" for cam girls, and we not to like changing things up. If you're scores has been low for months, not getting any higher, and you don't have a bigger crowd...camming might not be right for you. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Evvie]

Suppose cam life is like real life, if your at a party and chat with someone and get the feeling the person does not really want to be there, is not comfortable there, not interested in being there you make polite conversation and move on.

I don't think it's necessarily that some models don't want to be there or aren't comfortable camming. Sometimes it really is just a case that the model doesn't know what she's doing or is unwilling to do those things that might help her cause. Other times, models really just don't understand MFC or "get it" when it comes to talking to members, getting shows and finishing count-downs. If every model who wanted to be on MFC was successful, there would be a massive increase in the number of successful models around.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

Suppose cam life is like real life, if your at a party and chat with someone and get the feeling the person does not really want to be there, is not comfortable there, not interested in being there you make polite conversation and move on.

I don't think it's necessarily that some models don't want to be there or aren't comfortable camming. Sometimes it really is just a case that the model doesn't know what she's doing or is unwilling to do those things that might help her cause. Other times, models really just don't understand MFC or "get it" when it comes to talking to members, getting shows and finishing count-downs. If every model who wanted to be on MFC was successful, there would be a massive increase in the number of successful models around.

Now that right there is definitely the truth...hell I was drunk off my ass my first 2 weeks of camming just to "get used to things", and I'm betting that probably was one of the main factors as to why my camscore dropped so low. I'd know for sure, but I barely remember anything from those extremely saturated-liver days. :lol:

 

[JickyJuly]

Too bad Rogue's post couldn't magically just pop up whenever a new girl signs up and types "I'm new! Help!" as a topic title. It's polite and succinctly written. :thumbleft:

The ballerina quote gave me a good giggle. I had a friend all through school who began ballet at age 3, and was very devoted in her craft. Around 6th grade, her boobs went from non-existent to double Ds overnight. She was devastated when her Mom and coach had to conference and explain to her that her ballet days were over. Sometimes things just aren't meant to be.

 

[LindseyDoll]

Too bad Rogue's post couldn't magically just pop up whenever a new girl signs up and types "I'm new! Help!" as a topic title. It's polite and succinctly written. :thumbleft:

It should also pop up ever time a new member on here wants to tell us how to be more successful by being exactly the kind of girl that they like.

 

[CallMeWilliam]

On the other hand, I am convinced that he will be paying the loans off with his social security checks (if that still exists in 40+ years) and eating cat food.

More likely all taxpayers will be paying them off.

 

[Evvie]

On the other hand, I am convinced that he will be paying the loans off with his social security checks (if that still exists in 40+ years) and eating cat food.

More likely all taxpayers will be paying them off.

Yes. That is definitely the point of this thread.