Looking at a tipper's junk on cam - thoughts?

[zoober]

Chatting to cam girl I've known ages, guy entered room who'd recently become a relatively big tipper. He'd been getting pissy past few times, wanting more direct attention , but now was on cam himself and told her to check his junk out, which she did. Like I said, I known her ages, so know her routine; the tipper's schlong was variously delicious, oh so big, so hard, she wanted to ride it etc., The usual.

After, the cam girl described it as 'the worst part of 'camming'. What are other folks thoughts?

More generally, what's with guys wanting folks to look at their junk for free or for tokens - and does this mean before the internet there was a shit ton of frustrated flashers too scared to wave their todgers at women in case they got arrested?

Personally, strikes me as all about unresolved maternal issues and insecurity, but mebbe that's just me?

 

[Emberblaze]

I'm quite content to do c2c during a show. But outside of a show it's the absolute worst thing.

No dudes I don't want to look at your dick for free or next to nothing and give you tons of attention that I should be pointing elsewhere so that I can actually make money.

I work on SM now and not MFC now and even there people who have zero intention of ever paying for my services send me dick pics and I don't open the files ever.

 

[Smores]

Chatting to cam girl I've known ages, guy entered room who'd recently become a relatively big tipper. He'd been getting pissy past few times, wanting more direct attention , but now was on cam himself and told her to check his junk out, which she did. Like I said, I known her ages, so know her routine; the tipper's schlong was variously delicious, oh so big, so hard, she wanted to ride it etc., The usual.

After, the cam girl described it as 'the worst part of 'camming'. What are other folks thoughts?

More generally, what's with guys wanting folks to look at their junk for free or for tokens - and does this mean before the internet there was a shit ton of frustrated flashers too scared to wave their todgers at women in case they got arrested?

Personally, strikes me as all about unresolved maternal issues and insecurity, but mebbe that's just me?

According to this study, about 11.5% of men are voyeurs and 3.9% of women are voyeurs. So let's call that about 5% of women. Assuming those statistics hold to cam girls, I think what that implies is maybe 5% of cam girls enjoy watching guys on cam. The other 95% of cam girls do not like the activity. You can generally assume that if a cam girl from that 95% starts to watch a male cam during her show, she is secretly uncomfortable and not having a good time.

What is it with guys who want to show their junk to women they do not know at all? Why is this a thing? Why do so many stupid guys believe that this will improve their chances with women? I actually find the whole thing really strange and mysterious.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

Honestly, everyone has insecurities and everyone likes hearing compliments about their body. For men, these insecurities seem to revolve around their dick

Also, being an exhibitionist is a common turn on. I get turned on by knowing that lots of strangers are watching me - I used to post nudes on line and get on cam long before I became a camgirl. I liked the attention, i liked the strangers eyes on me... i liked the thrill of being looked at in a way that i didn't get every day. It was an ego boost, a turn on and when women do it we are not shamed for this kink so why are men?

I suspect the men who like to show off on cam are looking for some or all of the same things as I do.

I'll admit though - I always wanted to make sure that people viewing my cam WANTED to see me. SO I don't understand pushy behavior and sending unsolicited dick pics etc.

 

[Shutterbuck]

While I don't figure it will improve my chances with the ladies, I do like to show off my junk. So I'll leave you all with a picture of my junk... Feel free to rate it.

 

[Smores]

I'll admit though - I always wanted to make sure that people viewing my cam WANTED to see me. SO I don't understand pushy behavior and sending unsolicited dick pics etc.

That! Obviously all of the broadcasters on these sites are exhibitionists. And that is fine, because no one is pushing anyone to go view their room. People who enter by choice are entering into something consensual.

What makes the whole "dick pic" phenomena so bizarre to me is that it has a very confrontational element to it. Typically these men surprise women - who never consented - to their photos. There is almost a "rapey" feel to it, like the man is trying to force the woman into something without getting proper consent.

 

[zoober]

the whole "dick pic" phenomena so bizarre to me is that it has a very confrontational element to it. Typically these men surprise women - who never consented - to their photos. There is almost a "rapey" feel to it, like the man is trying to force the woman into something without getting proper consent

Nicely put, there does seem to be a whole - here is my strong mutton dagger, bow down before it and open your vagina to taste it's mighty wrath - vibe to it all, with the guy tipping so the cam girl don't tell him the reality which is he look hella gay and her boyfriend is way hotter.

Personally, I get asked to get my johnson out on cam a lot during privates, but figure its the cam girl wanting to make sure I got my hands on my dick and not typing out freak nasty demands. So I say nuh uh and make the freak nasty demands

 

[SMuser69]

That! Obviously all of the broadcasters on these sites are exhibitionists. And that is fine, because no one is pushing anyone to go view their room. People who enter by choice are entering into something consensual.

What makes the whole "dick pic" phenomena so bizarre to me is that it has a very confrontational element to it. Typically these men surprise women - who never consented - to their photos. There is almost a "rapey" feel to it, like the man is trying to force the woman into something without getting proper consent.

Ok I didn't want to say anything but I feel someone needs to.

Every one of your post you go out of your way to put down or ridicule something you aren't into. I don't know if you are aware that you go out of your way to kink shame in EVERY post you make but you should be aware that you do.

People are going to have kinks and fetish you WILL NOT understand that doesn't make them dumb, stupid or psychopaths. You also apply your bias heavy to things to try to make your points.

According to this study, about 11.5% of men are voyeurs and 3.9% of women are voyeurs. So let's call that about 5% of women. Assuming those statistics hold to cam girls, I think what that implies is maybe 5% of cam girls enjoy watching guys on cam. The other 95% of cam girls do not like the activity.

This means 95% of people range from not caring to not liking it's not a positive or negative thing.

You make every effort to vilify and put down what you're not into and it screams insecurity. Don't understand gay? They must be stupid people. Don't understand foot fetish they must be psychopaths.

Not understanding WHY people send 'dick pics' is fine. You're going to find a lot of people that don't understand why it turns people on but everyone here is an adult not crazy. They aren't perverts for liking something that they are PAYING for and that the model is ACCEPTING payment for. Models don't HAVE to accept these pictures but they also know they are turning down money when they do. That's their choice they aren't victims of member's fetishes they being paid to entertain those fetishes.

tl:dr stop kink shaming, it makes you look intolerant.

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

^^ I can't comment on his kink shaming tendencies, but I thought the quoted post was a reference to guys that do it to "civilian" women, which happens quite a bit, and is generally an unwanted surprise. Also applicable if you DM a dick pic to a cam girl who doesn't know you and whom you have never paid, or similar variations.

I agree that being an exhibitionist isn't a reason to shame someone. However, if you have a kink of any kind and thrust it upon non-consenting people, that's inappropriate.

 

[zoober]

Rather than targeting any one person making helpful and insightful comments, I hoped this was more an opportunity to reflect on men being more visual than women when it came to being sexually aroused (see for example the global fucking pornography industry) and women not being as open to or honest with themselves about the importance of the visual to their sexual; arousal, due to inherited notions of the feminine, with the internet kinda fucking that up by enabling guys to send dick pics and women to go into shock at getting dick pics with neither reflecting upon it all

 

[zoober]

Additionally, the fuck is a dude asking a cam girl to look at his johnson for? The fuck is going on in his mind?

 

[Carmita Bonita]

I've noticed I get a lot of guys who cam2cam with me on streamate asking me how big I thought it was/what was the biggest one I've ever seen and how their cock compares to the others etc. There isn't always emphasis on "Oh baby look at this cock I wanna fuck you with it!" as much as it is "Tell me my cock is big".

I think men are the biggest size queens of them all in a way. Maybe it's rooted in insecurity from the whole 'bigger is better' thing. I spend more time talking about cock/other men's cocks on cam than I talk about my own pussy lol.

 

[Smores]

Ok I didn't want to say anything but I feel someone needs to.

Every one of your post you go out of your way to put down or ridicule something you aren't into. I don't know if you are aware that you go out of your way to kink shame in EVERY post you make but you should be aware that you do.

People are going to have kinks and fetish you WILL NOT understand that doesn't make them dumb, stupid or psychopaths. You also apply your bias heavy to things to try to make your points.

That isn't the right way to read my post.

Some people are exhibitionists. That is fine. No shame. As long as no one is forced without consent to view you, there is no kink shaming.

Some people are voyeurs. Again, that is fine. No shame.

Some people are both exhibitionist and voyeur. Great.

But, some people are exhibitionist and NOT voyeur. If you force an exhibitionist who is not a voyeur to look at your naked body, you are violating her right to consent. Why am I being put down for defending a woman's right to consent to what she does and does not want to look at? I really don't think that point should be controversial.

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

Chatting to cam girl I've known ages, guy entered room who'd recently become a relatively big tipper. He'd been getting pissy past few times, wanting more direct attention , but now was on cam himself and told her to check his junk out, which she did. Like I said, I known her ages, so know her routine; the tipper's schlong was variously delicious, oh so big, so hard, she wanted to ride it etc., The usual.

After, the cam girl described it as 'the worst part of 'camming'. What are other folks thoughts?

I don't think seeing junk on c2c is the worst part. It's way better than the infamous tonguing at the camera! Actually, I kind of like c2c. I'm usually pleasantly surprised by at least one aspect of the guy on cam. Sometimes I think he's way too hot for the likes of me. Sometimes they have a surprisingly attractive cock. Occasionally, you might wind up with an older, hairy, rotund, average-dicked guy, but he cums SO profusely that you have to marvel at it. I've rarely been on c2c with a guy that didn't have SOME attribute that I found attractive or interesting.

What might *actually* be the worst part of the job is if this guy had been getting possessive and possibly grating on her last nerve, and she still feels like she needs to tell him how great his dick is. Great guys usually have great cocks, but if you're an asshole, you could have a solid gold dick that exploded with mango nectar, and complimenting your junk would still taste bad.

More generally, what's with guys wanting folks to look at their junk for free or for tokens - and does this mean before the internet there was a shit ton of frustrated flashers too scared to wave their todgers at women in case they got arrested?

I've wondered about this, too! The irl equivalent to a dick pic would be to walk into a coffee shop, pick a random stranger, whip your dick out, rub it to some level of turgidity, and slap it on the table in front of your chosen target. I can't imagine that that was a frequent occurrence in modern, pre-internet times. Maybe most guys don't feel compelled to flash, so they would be fine without the internet, but now they happen to have a dick, a camera, and internet access, so... YTF not?

Personally, strikes me as all about unresolved maternal issues and insecurity, but mebbe that's just me?

I'm not sure if you're serious about this bit, but if so, I'd be curious about your reasoning.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

I'm an exhibitionist, but I do my kink in a consensual manner. People who go onto a camsite only see what I offer to show after payment. I'm not into shock appeal. When I've done exhibitionism, I've done it in a manner where I wouldn't be bothering anyone, or getting in trouble. I don't get why some seem to think that women can only be attracted to dick.

Personally I enjoy viewing cams, but more for the facial reactions of pleasure more than anything. If I can't feel a dick it does nothing for me, but the reactions of the individual do. Maybe I'm way off base, but it feels a lot like catcalling. I mean both are pretty delusional even if they think of it as simply funny. They seem to think I should take this free picture of their manhood saluting me as a compliment, and I guess return the favor with nudes (?) Try again with money next time...

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

According to this study, about 11.5% of men are voyeurs and 3.9% of women are voyeurs. So let's call that about 5% of women. Assuming those statistics hold to cam girls, I think what that implies is maybe 5% of cam girls enjoy watching guys on cam. The other 95% of cam girls do not like the activity. You can generally assume that if a cam girl from that 95% starts to watch a male cam during her show, she is secretly uncomfortable and not having a good time.

What is it with guys who want to show their junk to women they do not know at all? Why is this a thing? Why do so many stupid guys believe that this will improve their chances with women? I actually find the whole thing really strange and mysterious.

I don't think it is appropriate to treat guys sending dick pics as an exhibitionist. Some are but there is a fundamental difference between flashing on a street corner and sending a sexy picture to someone you are interested in. With posting pictures on your genitals on the internet somewhere in between. I've been honestly surprised how few camgirls are like MissLollipop and genuine exhibitionists.
There is a much simpler explanation. People believe that other people are like them. In the case of guys, virtually all heterosexual guys would respond favorably to a note from an attractive girl saying something like "wow you are total hunk, I get wet thinking about having sex with you" accompanied by a nude photo of her. Now, a lot of guys wouldn't respond because the girls who do this are almost always scammers, but the possibility it was genuine would make most guys day.

So the logical conclusion for guys is if I'm happy if get a naked picture of a girl expressing interest in me. Therefore if I send a naked picture of myself this will make the girl happy. Even if you tell the guys that girls don't get aroused by male nudity, they think that girls are lying. "Girls are just saying that because they have to pretend to not want to have sex in order to be good girls."
Now, this certainly doesn't explain all the reasons guys send dick pics, there are also exhibitionists, trolls, and even those who read the porn actress tweets saying send me dick pics and extend it to all sex workers. But for a lot of men, they simply don't comprehend why girls don't want to get pictures of naked guys.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

Additionally, the fuck is a dude asking a cam girl to look at his johnson for? The fuck is going on in his mind?

... i literally answered this for you.




This thread is kind of gong down the toilet but just a reminder that if a camgirl consents to look at a guy on cam.. whether she actually enjoys watching or not, whether its done to keep a big tipper happy or paid for upfront.. this is a consensual exchange and there is nothing wrong with it. There is nothing wrong with enjoying people consensually looking at your junk.

Then theres another discussion going on about univited dick pick sending and the like. I don't know what motivates that. Maybe power over another person. Maybe an over inflated ego that thinks it will be welcome. Obviously this is shitty and never ok.

I just think that some comments here have been unnecessarily judgemental about ppl who like this.

If you like girls looking at your junk, for whatever reason.. paying camgirls to do it is a great way to indulge this perfectly normal thing that u like. If it is because you assume that the girl is like you.. happy to see naked pics, then ask her for her honest preferences.

 

[AudriTwo]

I honestly don't care. Don't bug me.

 

[Luckyfoxxy]

Yes, I am forever tainted by unsolicitated pictures of male genitalia.
I'd take staring at 100 dongs over staring at a silent chat in an empty room tbh.

 

[dilligaf0]

The women I've been with IRL have never complained.
I think that's what really matters.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

While I don't figure it will improve my chances with the ladies, I do like to show off my junk. So I'll leave you all with a picture of my junk... Feel free to rate it. View attachment 71582

I see your junk, and I'll raise you by mine...

 

[JustWantToSeeThePictures]

Additionally, the fuck is a dude asking a cam girl to look at his johnson for? The fuck is going on in his mind?

Maybe it's to do with virility, or maybe you just don't understand because your dick's not pretty.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

What might *actually* be the worst part of the job is if this guy had been getting possessive and possibly grating on her last nerve, and she still feels like she needs to tell him how great his dick is.

I would think this is right up there as being one of the worst parts of he job for you models. I know I shouldn't be surprised by anything. But, it still catches me by surprise every once in a while with how possessive, rude and pushy some people are towards models.

The irl equivalent to a dick pic would be to walk into a coffee shop, pick a random stranger, whip your dick out, rub it to some level of turgidity, and slap it on the table in front of your chosen target. I can't imagine that that was a frequent occurrence in modern, pre-internet times.

Maybe most guys don't feel compelled to flash, so they would be fine without the internet, but now they happen to have a dick, a camera, and internet access, so... YTF not?

Hell, I'm not even comfortable sending a dick pic to someone who requests it. Have had a couple of privates where the model has asked to see. But, I'm not at that level..

 

[SaffronBurke]

Maybe it's to do with virility, or maybe you just don't understand because your dick's not pretty.

It's a common agreement of many people I have met that no dicks are pretty.

 

[bud9752]

Before the internet you had to be satisfied by the guys in trench coats that would flash you

 

[curvyredhead]

I thought this thread was going to be about tippers messy houses.

 

[snowwolf87]

I thought this thread was going to be about tippers messy houses.

For 200 tokens, I'll let you see my garage.

 

[AwesomeKate]

The reason that I like watching a member's cam is because I believe (perhaps falsely) that a boner is indicative of sexual arousal. I enjoy my time on cam when I know that I am turning people on. A boner is visual proof that it is working. It sorta feels like I have accomplished my duty and I can feel good about my earning money and getting attention. The words on my screen are often not enough to convince me that I am actually desired.

The downside of this is when the person starts losing his boner mid-show. I usually take this as a sign that I should switch up what I am saying or doing. I think the arousal-->orgasm experience works on a macro scale better when you focus on the micro. In other words, the majority of men are turned on by the same things and you can learn from one how to please almost all. Each person watching can (mostly) get off to you while you are working hard to make one specific person cum and using their cam footage as a visual cue. Seems like a helpful and efficient way to handle many people's sexuality and desires all at once.

But... it is not for everyone.

 

[curvyredhead]

For 200 tokens, I'll let you see my garage.

For 201 tokens I'll pretend to enjoy your garage and tell you how big it is.

 

[DejaElectra]

Well I'm a Domme so when I do c2c they are never looking for me to grovel over how sexy their dick is (it's usually quite the opposite) and they are normally obeying my commands. I do enjoy watching them doing exactly as I say and I am frequently entertained by what I see.
I don't mind guys paying for me to look at their junk, but since I'm a Domme I can say whatever I want and they know that's what they are getting. I do have a lot of fun with it.

I did used to vanilla cam and I will say that grovelling over how "huge and sexy" an average cock, in a very poorly lit room, on a low quality webcam was did suck. Maybe it's because I'm a Domme and it just didn't come naturally to me, but I absolutely hated trying to think of new ways to compliment a sub-par dick. Not my thing. With the quality most guys are working with for webcams/lighting even if you did have the best cock in the world it would still look awful. I wouldn't say it's actually the worst part of the job, it's annoying and makes you feel a bit ridiculous but I can think of way more annoying things that come with the job. Dealing with dumb boners is part of what I signed up for.

I don't think there's anything wrong with guys who want to consensually show their junk online and I know there's tons of reasons why they might want to do it. This kind of behaviour has always been around, the internet has just made it easier, guys used to take dick pics on film and get it developed for godsake! That sounds like it takes way more thought and effort than just pulling it out on cam. Maybe they need a lot of validation to get off or maybe they are an exhibitionist and get a huge rush by showing off. In the D/s sense there can be a lot of venerability that comes with exposing yourself and that venerable feeling is what gets some people off. If the guy wants to be humiliated it can feel more real when the Domme can actually see the sub. Personally I don't judge anyone's reasoning as long as they are doing it consensually.

Guys who show you their dicks with no payment/warning/consent are a totally different story. In my work life I'm pretty numb to it, I just ignore it or robotically block them and move on like I never saw it. But when it happens with people I know personally that feels straight up violating...but this is a different discussion for a different time.