Looking at a tipper's junk on cam - thoughts?

[BiancaBaker]

I love watching, I have a lot of fetish's and I love everything from femdom c2c to fetish c2c to vanilla c2c. Whatever floats your boat is fine with me. I personally love watching someone else have a great time. Whether they are doing CBT stuff or they are stroking and cumming; to me it's the enjoyment and pleasure. I have many kinks and I love to share myself so I don't care or mind when a dude wants to show me how great of a job I'm doing.

I don't like unsolicited dick pics or anything like that obviously but for c2c purposes ; yes please put on your cam

 

[AmberCutie]

The reason that I like watching a member's cam is because I believe (perhaps falsely) that a boner is indicative of sexual arousal. I enjoy my time on cam when I know that I am turning people on. A boner is visual proof that it is working.

When I used to to private shows, this is a reason I'd ask if they had a cam as well. And it's nice to see when they finish so you aren't surprised if they end the private moments later.

 

[KarlaKaress]

i actually like watching people jack off. when i have a sexy caller at my house, i like to masturbate w them. it's a good way to find out what your partner likes. i guess i'm that 5% who actually enjoys it, according to that study.

unsolicited or unpaid tho? nah. keep it. this is my job, after all.

 

[zoober]

This thread is kind of gong down the toilet

Disagree violently and wonder why that comment was posted. Don;t know the politics or egos of this forum and don't wanna neither. . Kinda boiling down to why do guys want women to look at their junk - which seems a reasonable enough question to ask in c2c land

 

[Lucid1]

My own perspective on this:

When I started interacting with cam girls, over 10 years ago now, it was pretty much a private, one-on-one encounter where the model would always initiate asking to see my cam. Usually, it was as mundane as "can I see you also?". They weren't asking to "see my junk" so much as they were asking to have another element to work with during the show. They could see me, they could judge my excitement levels to determine if what they were doing was working or not. You can learn a lot about someone by watching them and seeing if their words matches their reactions, facial expressions, body language..etc, and it can seriously enhance an encounter in so many positive ways. But so many of today's sites have such a poor implementation of C2C interfacing that things like this are bound to occur. One would think that when someone is going private, there could be a dialogue box that would appear beforehand which would allow the model to initiate with a check box or something if she wanted to see the members cam, and it would then be up to the member to also check his/her box to allow the model to see said cam. That, in my mind, would be the epitome of consensual reciprocation in that regard.

 

[TokenGesture]

Don't look now! Or do! Or whatever!

On a slight but not unrelated tangent, a certain member on here has very recently posted his junk* in the random media section.



* he's not calling it his junk but his "9 inch money maker".

 

[AmberCutie]

Don't look now! Or do! Or whatever!

On a slight but not unrelated tangent, a certain member on here has very recently posted his junk* in the random media section.



* he's not calling it his junk but his "9 inch money maker".

lol that guy was also recently banned for being an asshole.

any relation to the subject matter?

edit: added a laughey smiley so hopefully people see the attempt at a joke...

 

[TokenGesture]

any relation to the subject matter?

Then theres another discussion going on about univited dick pick sending and the like.

As Miss_Lollipop mentioned quite a number of the thread's posts reference unsolicited dick pictures. The momentum of this tangential theme within the thread just got the better of me, resulting in my silly post alluding to dick pictures popping up in unexpected places. If I'd just stayed out of Random Media this would never have happened.

 

[AudriTwo]

Gonna expand from my experience...

I think it's best not to judge other people and how they masturbate if they aren't harming anyone. If a model doesn't want to look at peens, she can decide not/to, ignore it, enjoy it, or complain about it.

Normal vanilla, fine. I don't care. I also don't do cock worship, because it doesn't excite me. I am just looking at a dick, it doesn't trigger anything sexual for me. My libido don't work like that, and I communicate with members who maybe looking for a model who does. What I do focus on is how much they want me and what I am doing to them. I will use c2c as a gauge if anything. When I do c2c sph shows, I refuse to let members turn on their cam for an extended amount of time unless they pay a small dick tax.

Idk, I get a better response. I get guys coming back begging me to to beg and worship their dick while they are swinging it around on cam. I get sph guys wanting me to close out their c2c while yelling at them. I get guys who will never turn on their cam, because they aren't comfortable. And I get guys who just turn on their cam and just want me to look at it.

 

[AmberCutie]

As Miss_Lollipop mentioned quite a number of the thread's posts reference unsolicited dick pictures. The momentum of this tangential theme within the thread just got the better of me, resulting in my silly post alluding to dick pictures popping up in unexpected places. If I'd just stayed out of Random Media this would never have happened.

I was trying to make a joke about how the guy was an asshole, and was also the sort of person who pushes the image of his wiener into others without request.

Bluntly, people who send unsolicited dick pics are assholes.

I'm sorry you thought I was questioning the validity of your post.

 

[JustWantToSeeThePictures]

It's a common agreement of many people I have met that no dicks are pretty.

That still leaves room for people who like the look of them, but I was mostly joking. I have seen guys disappear with women after talking up their cocks, but there's usually already some sexual tension there, so maybe consensual dick-looking is like sarcasm in that it doesn't translate well to the Internet.

I was serious about the virility, though. You don't have to look far to find evidence of the concept that a man's penis the the physical embodiment of his masculinity, or that masculinity is what gives a man worth as a human being. It's not for me, but I can see why a guy would get off on having an attractive woman praise his genitals, particularly when that sort of dialogue is so common in certain areas of pornography.

 

[n_i_c_u]

I have always wondered if models actually venture on to the MFC part of the site region called "Member Webcams"? I've looked at it before just to check it out, and I think it is rare to find females (I did see a few). I'm not exactly sure who the target audience is. Is there money to be made there? But, if you want to see some junk and not pay for it that is a good place. Those people seem to want people to look at their awesomeness and you don't even have to pay or say who you are, they just show their stuffs for everyone to enjoy for free (and, no, I am not on there). Not sure what a chaturbate show is with guys, but any guys doing chaturbate have some stiff competition on mfc there. I would think it is the personality that helps out the chaturbate guys as opposed to just the sexual stuff.

 

[paige_orion]

If a man pays my fee, I don't mind watching cams, and honestly, I am a mixture of both voyeur and exhibitionist, so that aspect doesn't bother me. I like watching them get off to me. I like seeing the effect I have on them as I tease and laugh. I like making sure that men are following my instructions, and since I'm a domme, there is a lot of amusement to be had there for me - I can make them do all sorts of things for my entertainment. I'm not there to worship their cocks, though - it's almost always for humiliation purposes. And that's okay. They ask, they pay, and then I'll watch. Everyone consents and a good-time is had by all - and I do genuinely enjoy this aspect.

To me, when men request cam2cam, it isn't a sign of insecurity. It's a way to make the experience feel a little more real and personal. It's two people actually seeing each other in a sexual setting, which probably makes it a little more enjoyable for the dude than being just a random username on the interwebs. They actually get to be seeeeen by their model of choice, and that does make things a little more intimate/personal than just typing. I mean, the client gets to see a lot of the model's body and sexuality, so getting to be seen in return could probably make them feel more like a participant in the sexual performance than just a random viewer. It doesn't matter that the model has already seen a dozen cocks that day - right now, she's looking at his and praising his and noticing him, and who doesn't like being complimented during sexy times? I sure as hell like to be worshiped and adored, so I can't really judge anyone for liking the same! ^_^ It makes a lot of sense to me.

I also understand why some models aren't comfortable with that. Sometimes, it is easier to interact with a random username or not put a face/dick to the name of someone they've been performing for. I mean, sometimes, it's hard not to laugh when guys do that weird tongue-waggle thing or pretend to kiss the camera - and it's hard to be sexy when you're trying to choke back your snickers (unless you're a femdomme because then you can laugh as much as you want). Some people hate the sound of a stranger's moans, and they think that's a turn-off. And that's okay too.

I don't think it's wrong or weird for a man to want to be seen - as long as he gets the model's consent and permission first, and is willing to pay the price for the extra attention. And is respectful and understanding should a model turn him down.

If someone sends me an unsolicited dick pick, though, it is infuriating, and I'll kink-shame anyone who thinks it's okay to show their genitals to another human without consent. I mean... It isn't okay for a dude to whip out his dick in a public setting and wave it around in a woman's face... That's how you get arrested and labeled as a sexual predator. So it's hard for me when so many guys think it's acceptable behavior on the internet. I just don't get it.

Also, it bums me out on a personal level. I used to think dicks are pretty. All of my male partners had pretty dicks and I enjoyed them. But those unsolicited dick pics that we get sent? With their horrible lighting and weird close-up angle - and they aren't pretty dicks at all. Like... I have NEVER seen a pretty un-solicited dick pic. I've seen more ugly dicks than any one person should ever have to experience - and all without my consent. It's hard to enjoy cocks when strangers are constantly trying to shove them in your face - even in vanilla, personal world. Now... I'm kinda convinced that pretty dicks are much more of a rarity. So... Thanks, unsolicited dick-pic senders! You pretty much ruined most cocks for me. >.<

 

[zoober]

always wondered if models actually venture on to the MFC part of the site region called "Member Webcams"

Try skimming the exhibitionist section on chaturbate for a wide world of WTF ??!!??&?!?

98% male and of the 2% female 2 are waiting to get registered to take tokens, 1 goofed up her application and the other is mebbe for real.

 

[snowwolf87]

If someone sends me an unsolicited dick pick, though, it is infuriating, and I'll kink-shame anyone who thinks it's okay to show their genitals to another human without consent. I mean... It isn't okay for a dude to whip out his dick in a public setting and wave it around in a woman's face... That's how you get arrested and labeled as a sexual predator. So it's hard for me when so many guys think it's acceptable behavior on the internet. I just don't get it.

So what's the consensus of models sending unsolicited videos? I'll tip "just because" or for a count or a game or something and will get all kinds of links for videos. I don't want videos. I'll tell the model I don't want videos and, sometimes, she'll continue to send them. How is this different from unsolicited dick pics?

 

[AudriTwo]

So what's the consensus of models sending unsolicited videos? I'll tip "just because" or for a count or a game or something and will get all kinds of links for videos. I don't want videos. I'll tell the model I don't want videos and, sometimes, she'll continue to send them. How is this different from unsolicited dick pics?

you make a fair point. i would try to mark the people who say no thank you to those when i sold vids. but sometimes i would forget and send everyone who qualified for vids after my shift. if i start doing vids again, i will make sure to take that into count. consent goes both ways!

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

So what's the consensus of models sending unsolicited videos? I'll tip "just because" or for a count or a game or something and will get all kinds of links for videos. I don't want videos. I'll tell the model I don't want videos and, sometimes, she'll continue to send them. How is this different from unsolicited dick pics?

It's not a great practice, but there are a couple differences. First of all, the model probably had some indication that tipping during the game or countdown = videos, so at least you got some warning and there's a logical rationale behind why she's sending you this stuff. Yeah, you asked her not to send it, so she should have tried to make a note and not send them, but it's not completely out of the blue like dick pics tend to be.

Secondly, it's links to videos, hopefully not something that automatically loads when you open your messages. You can choose not to follow the links, especially since you may have a pretty good idea of what they are. In many messenger formats, a dick pic or an identifiable thumbnail loads whether we want it to or not.

Perhaps you just need to ask how many tokens to NOT show vids, bb...

 

[snowwolf87]

It's not a great practice, but there are a couple differences. First of all, the model probably had some indication that tipping during the game or countdown = videos, so at least you got some warning and there's a logical rationale behind why she's sending you this stuff. Yeah, you asked her not to send it, so she should have tried to make a note and not send them, but it's not completely out of the blue like dick pics tend to be.

Secondly, it's links to videos, hopefully not something that automatically loads when you open your messages. You can choose not to follow the links, especially since you may have a pretty good idea of what they are. In many messenger formats, a dick pic or an identifiable thumbnail loads whether we want it to or not.

Perhaps you just need to ask how many tokens to NOT show vids, bb...

Yeah. It's not as in your face as a pic that loads automatically.

I'm not complaining about the "tips = videos" stuff, but the videos out of the blue.

But, mainly, it's a minor pet peeve and this looked like an appropriate place to whine about it. I've got cheese here to go with my whine, so all is good.

 

[rstanton]

Additionally, the fuck is a dude asking a cam girl to look at his johnson for? The fuck is going on in his mind?

You've never jerked off with a woman? It's not sex, but it can be lots of fun.

 

[zoober]

You've never jerked off with a woman? It's not sex, but it can be lots of fun

ah hell yeah, it surely is. never asked someone to look at my junk tho.

 

[dilligaf0]

Here's a random pic of my wiener.

 

[rstanton]

ah hell yeah, it surely is. never asked someone to look at my junk tho.

You just assumed they wanted to look at it?

 

[zoober]

consent goes both ways!

really? you think guys and gals respond the same to unsolicited nudes? You, well not you, but other folks live and learn

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

really? you think guys and gals respond the same to unsolicited nudes? You, well not you, but other folks live and learn

It's not a question of how a given person responds, but rather the idea that EVERYONE should have the choice in whether or not they see the content in the first place. Basic consent.

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

On the main topic, I appreciate working on sites where I have to accept the dude's request to show his cam, rather than him just having the option to flip it on whether or not I want him to. I don't mind, I find it helpful in my sessions, but I would hate to not have the option to decline. And I do get a bit annoyed when dudes just send a c2c request immediately once they've entered the session, without so much as a "hi can u watch my cam bb?"

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

Disagree violently and wonder why that comment was posted. Don;t know the politics or egos of this forum and don't wanna neither. . Kinda boiling down to why do guys want women to look at their junk - which seems a reasonable enough question to ask in c2c land

violently huh? No need for violence I posted it because there were people throwing dirt around at each other.. and making judgemental comments about peoples consensual sexual preferences. It's nothing to do with politics in the forum, just about how i like to see people treated kindly when they're not hurting anyone.

Why do guys want women to look at their junk is a perfectly cool discussion (and im glad to see it got back on track) my issue was with nasty comments about preferences, and with the confusion between CONSENSUALLY sharing our genitals vs UNSOLICITED/NON CONSENSUAL. I'm glad to see later posts are being much more clear about the differences!

Glad things are back on track! We can totally be puzzled or interested by others preferences without needing to be unkind.

 

[zoober]

It's not a question of how a given person responds, but rather the idea that EVERYONE should have the choice in whether or not they see the content in the first place. Basic consent.

I'd say kinda yes/no. Sure, sure there's the consent issue, but I;'d argue the bigger thing is the difference between male and female sexuality where men are AND, because of cultural norms, are more able to admit to being sexually aroused by the visual, that being what the bulk of the global pornography industry caters to be it straight or gay porn aimed at men

To put it a different way - a chick sends me an unsolicited pic of her lady garden - RESULT !!! but if I send a chick an unsolicited pic of my cock and balls - not so good

 

[Gen]

To put it a different way - a chick sends me an unsolicited pic of her lady garden - RESULT !!! but if I send a chick an unsolicited pic of my cock and balls - not so good

Would you feel the same if she was really unattractive to you? I'm not asking in a snarky way but often these kind of discussions are like "hell YES we dudes wanna see nudes" but is it the same if she's just really unappealing to you personally? Genuine question for the gentlemen.

 

[NoelleBright]

Would you feel the same if she was really unattractive to you? I'm not asking in a snarky way but often these kind of discussions are like "hell YES we dudes wanna see nudes" but is it the same if she's just really unappealing to you personally? Genuine question for the gentlemen.

I don't think I personally know any man who would want to receive a random poorly lit closeup photo of a spread vulva with no idea what kind of person it was attached to.
This is the equivalent to what most unsolicited dick pics are.

 

[paige_orion]

I'd say kinda yes/no. Sure, sure there's the consent issue, but I;'d argue the bigger thing is the difference between male and female sexuality where men are AND, because of cultural norms, are more able to admit to being sexually aroused by the visual, that being what the bulk of the global pornography industry caters to be it straight or gay porn aimed at men

To put it a different way - a chick sends me an unsolicited pic of her lady garden - RESULT !!! but if I send a chick an unsolicited pic of my cock and balls - not so good

I do think the differences between male and female sexuality is a fascinating discussion to have, and I think it would be pretty neat to discuss this too. But I don't think it is the bigger issue? Maybe it was the wrong choice of words, but it almost sounds like the differences between male and female sexuality is more important than consent? Or perhaps I am just reading that wrong.

Consent is always more important than one person's sexual responses. I mean, I hear women speak up ALL THE TIME about how much they hate unsolicited nude pictures, and there's always guy that always chimes in with how much they like nude pictures. As if that is enough to invalidate the women who are speaking up about the dicks they have to see. As if that makes it okay, when it really doesn't. If a man knows how much it bothers women and continues to do it, then it isn't really a difference in sexuality. It just means the dude is an asshole.

One person's consent doesn't overpower the non-consent of another.

Just because a few dudes don't mind unsolicited nudity, it doesn't give them a right to force their sexuality on another person without their consent. I thought Snowwolf raised a good point about models sending unsolicited videos or photos, and it was an interesting query that certainly made me think, because I do see it happen a lot, and it is the same principal.

I mean, I totally understand wanting to show off your body and get compliments. There is nothing wrong with that desire. But it's not really hard to message someone and be like, "Hey. Wanna see a pic of my dick/vulva/breasts/booty?" And then act according to whichever response you get. That way, everyone wins. Those who want to see can see, while those who aren't interested can simply opt out. I wish that were the standard instead of opening a message to see some random strangerdude's dick picture filling my screen.