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[Jansoloper89]

Hello, i'm a paying user on Stremate, but since I ve growned a strong friendship with a model, i feel bad to directly "sexualize" her, so I use two accounts, on the main i chat with her on free chat and do "soft" tips, with the other account i take her to private and i play with her.

The question is: does she know my region and understand that it's still me but with two different accounts? (My nationality isnt that common and her room doesnt have so much traffic, so i guess im the only one from my country).

 

[droopla]

I don;t really know steamate but it very unlikely she can see your region but she will notice it
everyone got his own way of talking
And don't feel bad about "sexualizeing" , it is a sex site
it's also just as normal relations , you can be very nice to each other but sometimes you just want to ........

 

[Vixxen81]

Are you sexualizing her or are you objectifying her, cause there is a huge difference.

 

[AudriTwo]

No she has no idea its you on a separate account. Unless she recognizes your text speech.


Good on you for tipping her when you are in your talking mode. So many dudes take advantage of our freechat time by yapping or catch an attitude if we ask to respect it.

 

[ts_cammer98]

Hello, i'm a paying user on Stremate, but since I ve growned a strong friendship with a model, i feel bad to directly "sexualize" her, so I use two accounts, on the main i chat with her on free chat and do "soft" tips, with the other account i take her to private and i play with her.

The question is: does she know my region and understand that it's still me but with two different accounts? (My nationality isnt that common and her room doesnt have so much traffic, so i guess im the only one from my country).

I feel like if you felt bad, you just wouldn't do it. The two accounts thing is more like a "keeping up on your facade" kind of thing to me and I would find that.... not creepy, but controlling.... controlling your image with said model. and for a genuine friendship, a huge red flag.

friendship can be real on the camsites... but not like what you might be implying... you know you tend to "make friends" with whatever staff for whatever service you may come back for at some place but you are not in their "circle"

 

[LilyLaughing]

She is there working to be sexualized. Your time as a “friend” is no more or less the same valuable than your time as a sex show client. Time = attention = tips.

I prefer clients who pay for the service I’m offering, whether sexual or just boosting confidence for a “friend”. Spending time on cam damages my actual IRL friendships, I don’t understand what you are hoping for? My IRL friends take me on picnics, vacays, we trade gifts and laughs and never insert ourselves into the other’s work time.

What does friendship mean to you? And what is “soft” tipping? (New phrase to me!)

 

[Vixxen81]

And what is “soft” tipping? (New phrase to me!)

One token at a time or only for non-sexy stuff on the menu. That's guess anyway.

Good to see you again!

 

[Jansoloper89]

Thank you for all the replies!

Im into Camsites since 3/4 years and honestly happened only with her and another model in the past that I grow intimate (99% of times I just pay and fap).
As almost the models she doesnt love her job, but the payout, you know, is kinda worth.
We speak also offsite (in the limits of both privacies) and I tend to send also offsite gifts, as you would do to a dear friend.
I know she has a boyfriend and this help me on not growing any stupid or useless feeling, but hey, i love her as you would with a sister/best friend and I owe her a lot because she helped me going through a dark period.
The fact is that my "brotherly part" feels bad to ask her sexual things, but the " fap user part" is addicted to her shows , that's why i decided to separate the two things with 2 differents "users", and I really dont want that she find out that I am that "pervert".

Any advice would be appreciated, even the most "brutal", i appreciate the sincerity the most .

 

[stormythunder]

Thank you for all the replies!

Im into Camsites since 3/4 years and honestly happened only with her and another model in the past that I grow intimate (99% of times I just pay and fap).
As almost the models she doesnt love her job, but the payout, you know, is kinda worth.
We speak also offsite (in the limits of both privacies) and I tend to send also offsite gifts, as you would do to a dear friend.
I know she has a boyfriend and this help me on not growing any stupid or useless feeling, but hey, i love her as you would with a sister/best friend and I owe her a lot because she helped me going through a dark period.
The fact is that my "brotherly part" feels bad to ask her sexual things, but the " fap user part" is addicted to her shows , that's why i decided to separate the two things with 2 differents "users", and I really dont want that she find out that I am that "pervert".

Any advice would be appreciated, even the most "brutal", i appreciate the sincerity the most .

The fact that you're talking to her on a cam site in the first place will give her the same impression of you regardless of how you interact with her. You're a person who paid money to engage with live adult actresses. Basically- since you've met on an adult entertainment site it's kind of an unspoken understanding that you're all capable of being perverted in some way.

 

[Vixxen81]

Friends don't deceive each other and play mind games like this.

Just jerk off to her, pay her well, and keep the therapy bits to your actual therapist.

 

[yummybrownfox]

I agree with Vixxen. And I would be weirded out and annoyed if a guy I'd become cam site "friends" with felt the need to make a second account to try to hide his identity from me...tricking me into believing he's a new member to my room. I don't like that sneaky shit. It's so unnecessary. Married men looking to sneak around/cheat on their wives do sneaky shit like make (dating) profiles, hoping the woman never finds out. Lol.

And you guys wonder why women don't trust you...

 

[Vixxen81]

I agree with Vixxen. And I would be weirded out and annoyed if a guy I'd become cam site "friends" with felt the need to make a second account to try to hide his identity from me...tricking me into believing he's a new member to my room. I don't like that sneaky shit. It's so unnecessary. Married men looking to sneak around/cheat on their wives do sneaky shit like make (dating) profiles, hoping the woman never finds out. Lol.

And you guys wonder why women don't trust you...

Also giving off a real Madonna/Whore Complex vibe, too. Like you can't be friends with someone you want to fap to? That's some bullshit right there and why I try to hide my intelligence from 99% of the people I interact with in my room.

 

[Slapstick]

Hello, i'm a paying user on Stremate, but since I ve growned a strong friendship with a model, i feel bad to directly "sexualize" her, so I use two accounts, on the main i chat with her on free chat and do "soft" tips, with the other account i take her to private and i play with her.

I'm not even a model and I find that kind of creepy. While she may not have any way of directly knowing it's you, she knows, or at least strongly suspects, it is you. Your turn of phrase, the adjectives you use, the things you complement, and the way you complement them are all giveaways.

Having said that, I totally understand where you are coming from; it can feel completely wrong to sexualize someone that you have grown fond of. But as the models here have pointed out, that is what she is there for. I am sure she would be happy to be your cute "girlfriend" in public chat and then be your sex toy in private.

What you are feeling is a you problem not a her problem. Unfortunately you now have yourself in the position of explaining that you've been lying to her all this time.

 

[Vixxen81]

your sex toy in private.

Nope, this is what I meant between the difference of sexualization and objectification of a model. We are not sex toys. We are masturbation partners.

 

[Slapstick]

We are not sex toys. We are masturbation partners.

Yes, that was a poor choice of words on my part.

 

[AudriTwo]

I'm not even a model and I find that kind of creepy. While she may not have any way of directly knowing it's you, she knows, or at least strongly suspects, it is you. Your turn of phrase, the adjectives you use, the things you complement, and the way you complement them are all giveaways.

Yep. Even punctuation and grammar mistakes can give regular users away. I dont usually call it out/deal with unless they are ban evading. Agree what OP is doing strange but nothing nefarious.

I know i personally wouldn't care if a member has an account for chit chat if they were tipping me for my time and not upset if i accept privates or do gold shows while. I do get pissed at someone who constantly visits and enjoys my company without tipping me. Its more annoying and ban worthy when users don't respect that camming is a job not a social experience. But thats me

 

[MarieElise]

OP my experience and assumption on SM has been, and is, that most guys have at least 2 accounts there. She cannot see your nationality.
We are there for sexy shows.
As long as you tip on both accounts, and don't waste time; I doubt she'd care anyway. It's odd, but guys always act odd, like that, there.
So it's in no way uniquely odd. They, pretty much, all do that over there.
Especially if they get a giant crush on you.
Just don't let your crush have you emotionally exhausting her, acting toxic, mind-gaming, detracting from her ability to earn from everyone else, pouting, sabotaging, or breaking rules trying to meet up.
All should be fine if you stay within those parameters imho.

 

[Vixxen81]

@MarieElise how does banning on SM work -- when a model gets irritated and yeets someone into the sun, does it ban all known accounts for that person or no?

I ask because on Chaturbate, it can be a dangerous game to play. When I ban someone it takes all of their other accounts with it.

Which is how I found out a fan club member at the time was trying to test me on a different name unfamiliar to me. He had to message me on OF to find out why he was banned and I never banned the name I knew him under. He claimed he was hacked. LOL No, buddy, that's not how that works. And probably why I have such a deep dislike for the behavior.

 

[Jansoloper89]

Plot twist.

I just discovered through the alt account that she hates to speak with me but she does it only because im a good tipper..

I feel like everything is collapsing on me but maybe its time to just fap on her and stop. But it still hurts..

Is it stupid to think of having a friendship with a model? All of you just want to get paid and objectified?

 

[LilyLaughing]

All of you just want to get paid and objectified?

I can’t speak for ALL and I find the way you asked this offensive and insulting but I get that you are feeling butthurt right now. Cam models are on cam sites to work and earn money, and it’s obnoxious to be upset by this.

For me, I:
1. Want to get paid, that’s what I’m on a cam site for
2. Don’t care if I’m objectified. Men are going to do this anyway.
3. Maintain happily friendly relationships with long term regulars

I think you need to recalibrate what you consider “friendship” - cam sites are not the place to find long term platonic friends and it is invasive and rude for any viewer to expect this, and especially to get annoyed that we expect tips for sharing our time and attention in a pay-to-play situation.

Please remember many of us are already paid good money for non sexual chat/companionship without the extra expectations of offline friendship let alone the deception of alt accounts.

 

[NotYou]

I think it's funny that you want to be a friend yet act like an idiot and play games. I don't even do this with models I don't want to be friends with, and certainly would never do this BS with the models I have been a regular of for a while and become friends with. I also understand the friendship isn't going to be "real" in the sense we are going to meet, have coffee, buy each other christmas cards or you know, the other stuff friends do for one another in real life, but then I do understand and respect the virtual friendship we have.

You can't be playing games using multiple accounts trying to catch a model out and still pretend to be a good guy just wanting to be her friend. Just like you can't force a friendship with anyone virtually or real life, and I really think not with models who are doing this as a job.

If you genuinely want a friendship of any kind with models then be respectful and decent. Find 1 or 2 you like and get on with and have fun with, tip them when you can, respect they can't/won't give you all their attention when you're not able to tip, and let the friendship form naturally.

 

[stormythunder]

Plot twist.

I just discovered through the alt account that she hates to speak with me but she does it only because im a good tipper..

I feel like everything is collapsing on me but maybe its time to just fap on her and stop. But it still hurts..

Is it stupid to think of having a friendship with a model? All of you just want to get paid and objectified?

You used your alt account to ask her about her opinion of your main account? I'm a little surprised she didn't clock the manipulation going on but yeah, I can see why you may be difficult to talk to if your main concern is playing mind games...

 

[smoker919]

Nope, this is what I meant between the difference of sexualization and objectification of a model. We are not sex toys. We are masturbation partners.

Probably the most important comment for any viewer on a streaming site to comprehend.

 

[LilyLaughing]

I really dont want that she find out that I am that "pervert".

This is a pity; I do try to do some good in the world even as a camgirl, and I think the best thing I can do for most is to help them enjoy their kinks and fantasies and accept them.

You might also simply enjoy the drama that comes with thinking your relationship was more than it is or that there is a “plot twist” or … even a plot at all. I don’t know, and don’t judge if that’s the case, I like a of drama too. But if so, it’s good to look inward to know if that’s true of yourself.

You used your alt account to ask her about her opinion of your main account? I'm a little surprised she didn't clock the manipulation going on but yeah, I can see why you may be difficult to talk to if your main concern is playing mind games...

This is also what I’m clocking when I speak of drama.

Hopefully none of this drama matters to the model (tipped appropriately) and OP can consider the input and reflect on how he wishes to present and enjoy online time. It is supposed to be fun!