AmberCutie's Forum
An adult community for cam models and members to discuss all the things!

17 yr old, Rehtaeh Parsons *Trigger Warning*

  • ** WARNING - ACF CONTAINS ADULT CONTENT **
    Only persons aged 18 or over may read or post to the forums, without regard to whether an adult actually owns the registration or parental/guardian permission. AmberCutie's Forum (ACF) is for use by adults only and contains adult content. By continuing to use this site you are confirming that you are at least 18 years of age.
Status
Not open for further replies.

NikkiBlossom

I haven't posted recently, hopefully will be back soon!
Inactive Cam Model
Nov 3, 2012
593
3,137
31
Rehtaeh Parsons, a 17-year-old from Halifax, Nova Scotia, hung herself in her family's bathroom last week after photos of her gang rape were distributed online by classmates. She fell into a coma. Her family pulled her off life support on Sunday.

Full story here >> http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/outrage-erupts-online-over-17-year-old-girls-suicide-after-h


How are people who raped, recorded then harassed this poor girl with her rape, still not imprisoned???? I feel like some sort of action needs to be taken!
 
NikkiBlossom said:
Rehtaeh Parsons, a 17-year-old from Halifax, Nova Scotia, hung herself in her family's bathroom last week after photos of her gang rape were distributed online by classmates. She fell into a coma. Her family pulled her off life support on Sunday.

Full story here >> http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/outrage-erupts-online-over-17-year-old-girls-suicide-after-h


How are people who raped, recorded then harassed this poor girl with her rape, still not imprisoned???? I feel like some sort of action needs to be taken!

haha. dangit. We started up a new thread at the same time. :lol:
 
  • Like
Reactions: NikkiBlossom
If there was video evidence circulating around her school, surely that's enough for a conviction? What were the teachers doing? Her parents knew, so it stands to reason the school did too. And what the fuck is wrong with people?? Her female classmates allegedly sent her texts branding her a slut. Are kids really that fucking moronic these days?
I've just read the article so this is obviously me being reactionary but it shouldn't matter that the rapists were 15 when it happened. If you're old enough to rape someone, you're old enough to be chemically castrated and locked up for 30 years.
 
NikkiBlossom said:
JerryBoBerry said:
haha. dangit. We started up a new thread at the same time. :lol:

That just means that this is a topic that truly shouldn't be ignored! :-D

Seems it can. Somehow the thread I started got deleted. :think:
 
  • Like
Reactions: emptiedglass
JerryBoBerry said:
NikkiBlossom said:
JerryBoBerry said:
haha. dangit. We started up a new thread at the same time. :lol:

That just means that this is a topic that truly shouldn't be ignored! :-D

Seems it can. Somehow the thread I started got deleted. :think:

Probably only because it was a duplicate. There's no point in discussing the same stuff in multiple threads.
 
WOW! What a beautiful young girl. Unfortunately some kids are just that stoopid today. These kinds of things are becoming more and more prevelent in the news and it makes me sick. It seems that taking someones life is not a big deal anymore. Count me in when we want to vote in an 'eye for an eye' punishment again. My prayers are out for Rehtaeh Parsons and her family!
 
:angry4: and :crybaby:

When these pictures got out, I wonder who saw them and just didn't want to get involved. I wonder if one person even reached out to her to see how she was doing.

Guys, if you ever know something terrible happened to someone you know, reach out to them, please. Even if they seem fine, you never know how they are dealing with it. Talk to them about anything. It does't have to be, "How you holdin' up tiger?" You can talk about work, you can talk about the weather, you can talk about anything. Make sure to let them know that there *is* someone out there who is there for them. Make sure they know that you care. Because if they know one person cares, that can be enough to save their life.

ETA: I didn't realize she was dealing with this for the last two years. In the article it seems like she really had nobody. It seems like she was dealing with this all alone, aside from her mother. Sometimes, though, you want someone else to talk to besides your mom. Why did other girls call her a slut, when she was in desperate need for a hand? And don't even get me started on the school administrators who had to have picked up on this. What is wrong with this world we live in?

ETA2:
emptiedglass said:
Those guys don't even deserve to share our air anymore.
I hope they're made to pay for their crimes.
Corporal punishment should be legal in cases like this.

Hm, we can let them breathe our air, but let's just remove all the oxygen first, okay?
 
  • Like
Reactions: emptiedglass
poeple fucking suck.

but, i asked an associate of mine why there was no prosecution. (hes RCMP) he said that the photos didnt show faces of the assailants. they are building a case against the one who sent the pics ( he wouldnt say how many there were) on distributing kiddie porn since the victim was underage, but he doesnt think theyll get a conviction. supposedly the images dont show enough of her to count under canadian statutes.

i take it with a grain of salt since im both american, and a civilian so he neither can nor would give much detail beyond what is available in press releases anyway and hes not on the case. but that is the official reason as far as i can gather.
 
Anonymous posted this today

Operation Justice for Rehtaeh:

4/11 Statement:

Since yesterday morning several teams of investigators have been working to dissect the events surrounding the rape, harassment and suicide of Rehtaeh Parsons.

What we have learned is certainly appalling, but it wasn't the act of rape that shocked us. It was the behavior of the adults in Rehtaeh's life that we found most disturbing. Let's set aside for a moment the compassion they should have shown as human beings and just focus on the responsibilities they had as professionals. We're talking about the school teachers, administrators, the police and prosecutors, those who should have been role models in the late Rehtaeh's life.

To begin, Ross Landry's reversal of his decision not investigate this case after a media blitz is clearly an indication that his sudden interest is purely an act of public relations damage-control. You should be really ashamed of yourself. In contrast to your statements your actions are not genuine and your patronizing attention is unappreciated. Ross, you have zero class. We encourage you to get it together.

Now, it took us only a few hours to identify the boys that assaulted Rehtaeh. This wasn't some high-tech operation that involved extracting private messages from someone's Facebook account. Dozens of e-mails were sent to us by kids and adults alike, most of whom had personal relationships with the rapists. Many recalled confessions made by these boys blatantly in public where they detailed the rape of an inebriated 15-year-old girl. Recent statements by police and prosecutors that there simply wasn't enough evidence to make a single arrest should be viewed solely as an admission of incompetence on their part. This wasn't “he said, she said.” He said he did it and he said it to everyone while showing them a photo of him doing it. Every officer that signed off on this “no evidence” conclusion should be guarding the entrance to a petting zoo for the remainder of their careers. We're afraid to ask if anyone even bothered to check the EXIF data on the rape/child pornography being openly shared by hundreds of students throughout your community.

The way the story is told, time and time again, these sad little boys had no fear whatsoever about admitting publicly their crimes and even spreading photographic evidence of it. Why were they unafraid? They believed no one was ever going to do anything to stop them and they were right. For this we point our fingers at the Cole Harbour school system. It is truly disturbing that this level of bullying could happen in one of your schools without you noticing. Worse, child porn was apparently viral in your halls and you had no clue. That was the excuse your staff repeated on the news yesterday wasn't it, that you didn't know. Well, it's your job to know. If the administration of that school had any honor they would all resign for failing to meet the terms of their employment.

All of you have created a mess and instead of taking responsibility and cleaning it up, the first thing you did yesterday morning was get on television and defend your jobs. You have taught the young men in your community a terrible lesson: rape is easy.

And just to clear things up once and for all for the young men in Nova Scotia who are unlikely to hear this from any of their role models: vomiting drunk girls are not capable of giving you consent to have sex with them. That kind of sex is called rape. It isn't really sex at all. If that's the only way you can laid, you are pathetic and should stick to quietly sobbing while fondling yourselves in the dark until hopefully the day comes when some woman you probably don't deserve pities you enough to teach you how to act like a real man.

At this time we can honestly say we're confident we know the identities of the people involved in Rehtaeh's rape. It would probably take us a lot longer to come up with a list of the people responsible for her death. We hope you all find some way to sleep at night.

See you Sunday.

- Anonymous.

http://pastebin.com/Q8VWUy7a
 
Why did she have to die for it to become a big deal? God. People are disgusting. I'm so fed up with this attitude that a girl sleeps with people she deserves to be verbally attacked by loads of people for it. And jesus christ, this wasn't even consented sex, it was rape!

Problem is, when people say kids are cruel, they're right. But the unfortunate fact is, people are cruel. It's just usually people learn how to conceal things, and learn what other people don't like seeing. Gang rape in itself could ruin someones life, let alone being fucking bullied about it!

I just cannot believe that they're walking free and people stood up for it! In my town a girl who was friends with my best friend got raped when she was unconscious and the guy filmed it, it got out because him and the girls best friend watched the video whilst having sex and both admitted to it. My best friend who was a total psycho at the time beat the living daylights out of them. If it were my friend that that'd happened to I'd have done the same.

What I don't understand though is if there were a group of classmates who were willing to perform that kind of rape and were so guilt free that they posted photos of it, surely they'd have done it again? If you feel no guilt and get away with something like that and they obviously seemed to feel some kind of pleasure from it, then maybe she wasn't the only victim.
 
The rapists need to be brought to justice. I'm okay with whatever happens to them.

However, it's not the rapists who killed her. It was the bullies, and the police who didn't talk with the rapists until 10 months after the event and the school which failed to offer her the help she needed. You don't need to be a rape victim to become a victim of bullies or indifference.
 
I'm just waiting for 'anonymous' to reveal the names of the rapists so CNN can start talking about what promising futures they have.
 
No need for me to repeat how horrible this is, or that the kids involved should be brought to justice, tried as adults to give a necessary amount of weight to a horrible crime like gang-rape and an inquiry into why charges weren't laid in the first place if the evidence really is that clear.

The very first thing they should do if they haven't already is remove local police from the investigation entirely and have the rape and bullying charges, as well as the review of the original investigation taken over by someone outside the local police chain of command.

I feel conflicted about Anonymous getting involved. While obviously here and in Steubenville there's a need for it, because Anonymous is anonymous and not held to any sort of standard of evidence or ethics, it doesn't take a great leap to imagine how easily innocent people could be accidentally or maliciously named without having had the benefit of a trial etc, and have their lives ruined too.

I hope what authorities learn from this is that they need to change their procedures regarding rape investigation, or else Anonymous will.
 
Jupiter551 said:
I feel conflicted about Anonymous getting involved. While obviously here and in Steubenville there's a need for it, because Anonymous is anonymous and not held to any sort of standard of evidence or ethics, it doesn't take a great leap to imagine how easily innocent people could be accidentally or maliciously named without having had the benefit of a trial etc, and have their lives ruined too.

I pretty much feel the same way. Hopefully Anonymous won't have to release the identities of the rapists themselves as hopefully the relevant authorities will do their job this time around. If it does come to Anonymous taking further action, then - on the one hand, the rapists will pay for what they've done (and will get no sympathy from me regardless of how they pay or by whose hand); but on the other, it sets an incredibly dangerous precedent.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LadyLuna
mynameisbob84 said:
Jupiter551 wrote:
I feel conflicted about Anonymous getting involved. While obviously here and in Steubenville there's a need for it, because Anonymous is anonymous and not held to any sort of standard of evidence or ethics, it doesn't take a great leap to imagine how easily innocent people could be accidentally or maliciously named without having had the benefit of a trial etc, and have their lives ruined too.


I pretty much feel the same way. Hopefully Anonymous won't have to release the identities of the rapists themselves as hopefully the relevant authorities will do their job this time around. If it does come to Anonymous taking further action, then - on the one hand, the rapists will pay for what they've done (and will get no sympathy from me regardless of how they pay or by whose hand); but on the other, it sets an incredibly dangerous precedent.

Agree on this.

I think an appropriate punishment would be for each of those boys to be gang raped by 4 men bigger than they are and then deal with name calling, bullying and harassment. So I think prison would be the best option for them. Mob mentality can get very warped to the point that people are doing something totally different to the criminals making them victims of a different crime. As much as I feel they deserve what they get, I also feel that it should be equal to the damage they caused.

I personally have never understood bullying or bullies. About a year ago I had a terrible flatmate who I had to kick out. She had been warned, she'd broken all the rules and damaged the property, yet still for 6 months afterwards she's get her friends to make nasty prank calls and shout stuff at me on the street, mostly they'd call me a slut/slag as she knew about my job. Now this to me just seems like the most ridiculous thing, she moved in, she broke all the rules, made living with her horrific so she got kicked out, to me that'd be end of story. Unfortunately her and her friends are nasty people who haven't grown up and have very little lives and generally wallow in self pity. Essentially though, they're little twats, but I don't think they were truly thinking. They don't connect the dots that they could make someone so scared and miserable that they might commit suicide, I'm a pretty strong person but I was always nervous of passing them, or of going out and bumping into them, it did really effect my life, and that wasn't even a particularly bad situation.
Thing is with bullies, is they don't really consider what they're doing as bullying. They're so self absorbed that they don't understand or take responsibility for their actions. I mean all they did is made a phone call. Or shouted something rude behind someones back. I remember with these particular kids they'd always walk past me, and then once I'd walked a bit down the road they'd shout something. They would never say anything to my actual face or when I was close. Several times the person shouting would be someone I've never met before. Why on earth would someone scream at someone who they've never met because someone else tells them to?

Bullying is probably worse than the actual thing. I'd rather be forced into sex/beaten up one time than have to spend every day in fear of verbal abuse. I will assume that the photos did not look like rape, and rather looked like she was fucking them. They were pictures rather than a video, unless they'd physically beaten her up I would imagine it would be difficult to distinguish whether she'd consented or not. Kids are sick/twisted, but they're not that twisted.
 
Sevrin said:
However, it's not the rapists who killed her. It was the bullies, and the police [...]


Suicide is never the fault of anyone except the one who commits it.

Certainly rape is a terrible crime, and bullying someone about getting raped is pretty despicable. But life is not perfect, and bad things happen to good people. You can't just give up as soon as the going gets rough. You have to keep your chin up, and move on with life. There's always an alternative to suicide, even if you're afraid of what the alternative might bring.

Rehtaeh was a coward, and is the only person responsible for her own death.
 
bawksy said:
Suicide is never the fault of anyone except the one who commits it.

Certainly rape is a terrible crime, and bullying someone about getting raped is pretty despicable. But life is not perfect, and bad things happen to good people. You can't just give up as soon as the going gets rough. You have to keep your chin up, and move on with life. There's always an alternative to suicide, even if you're afraid of what the alternative might bring.

Rehtaeh was a coward, and is the only person responsible for her own death.
That is way WAAAAY harsh. She wasn't a coward she was an abused child :(

Bawksy no one would suggest anyone else is DIRECTLY responsible for her death, but there is ZERO DOUBT that the rape and subsequent bullying made her life unbearable in a way most of us will thankfully not experience.

No, this isn't a perfect world and things aren't black and white. For instance someone can be responsible for helping to cause a situation without actually physically performing an action.

The logic of only the person committing a deed being responsible fails repeatedly when you look at almost any complex crime/situation. 9/11 for example. World War II.
 
I agree with you Jupiter. This is not like my 3 AA friends I have lost to suicide, this is an abused child. As the father of a 17 year old boy I am both deeply saddened and angered by this. I am sad because this poor girl did not get the proper justice or help she deserved. I am angry at both the punks that raped her, the ones that bullied her, and all of their parents! Our son would not do that period! We made sure of it by the way we raised him. If he ever did anything like that I would take him out personally!
:angry4:

Yes, I am blaming their parents too. Other then the rare instance where a child is actually born evil they are raised that way. It is not an inherent trait. My wife is a social worker who has dealt in foster care for years now. For 7 years she dealt only with violently, sexually abused children so I have heard all the stories. In all her time she only met one child she felt was born evil. The rest were most often a product of their upbringing. She had one 11 year old boy kill himself. She had not had a chance to work with him much as she had just received the case. It turned out that his crack head mom had been pimping him out for years. Even had a menu with prices on it. Sorry, but I just can't blame a child for killing themselves under those type of circumstances. I blame us parents and adults because we failed the child, not the other way around.
:icon-cry:
 
bawksy said:
Sevrin said:
However, it's not the rapists who killed her. It was the bullies, and the police [...]


Suicide is never the fault of anyone except the one who commits it.

Certainly rape is a terrible crime, and bullying someone about getting raped is pretty despicable. But life is not perfect, and bad things happen to good people. You can't just give up as soon as the going gets rough. You have to keep your chin up, and move on with life. There's always an alternative to suicide, even if you're afraid of what the alternative might bring.

Rehtaeh was a coward, and is the only person responsible for her own death.

There's a thing called mental and psychological abuse. It's a lot worse than having someone beat you up physically. People understand how someone could die from physical abuse, same is for the other kind. Just because you can't see the bruises doesn't mean they aren't there.

Also this story made me shed a tear or two. I doubt there will ever be justice since no one can bring her back, but the way the police and the school dealt with it makes me angry.
 
bawksy said:
Sevrin said:
However, it's not the rapists who killed her. It was the bullies, and the police [...]


Suicide is never the fault of anyone except the one who commits it.

Certainly rape is a terrible crime, and bullying someone about getting raped is pretty despicable. But life is not perfect, and bad things happen to good people. You can't just give up as soon as the going gets rough. You have to keep your chin up, and move on with life. There's always an alternative to suicide, even if you're afraid of what the alternative might bring.

Rehtaeh was a coward, and is the only person responsible for her own death.
Normally I would agree with this stance, if it was an adult. In this case I don't because she was a child who didn't have the skills or knowledge to cope with this situation. She was failed by every single adult in her life. Even though I think suicide is an extremely selfish act, in this case I wouldn't put any of the blame on her. I'd point fingers at all of the adults in her life and tell them they should feel responsible for the death of this child and the behaviors of the other children who caused this.

Yes she could have probably tried to reach out to other adults, but considering we aren't/weren't inside her mind we can't know that she didn't try. I distinctly remember trying to reach out to multiple adults in my early teenage years because I needed guidance and either was flat out ignored or swept under the rug like I was a nuisance. If she was met with that kind of rejection, then I can understand why she thought suicide was the best option.

*I still don't think suicide was her best option, but I'm not in her shoes so it's not fair of me to try and say she should have tried harder.*
 
I can't "blame" anyone for suicide. It is an act of finality, it goes against all of our basic self-survival instincts; it is NOT something that anyone does on a whim. When depression and sadness and who knows what else reaches a level where one would take their own life, especially when young and healthy...blame isn't even in the equation...call it ad hoc insanity, or whatever you please, but whatever it is, it's not a billboard calling on us to belittle them--they've suffered THAT much.

Oh, and yes, I DO blame anyone that would push someone over that horrible edge...in this case both the assailants, the ignorant rapists, AND those who used that horrible act by the rapists to bully and hurt the victim.

They can go to hell.
 
Jupiter551 said:
bawksy said:
Suicide is never the fault of anyone except the one who commits it.

Certainly rape is a terrible crime, and bullying someone about getting raped is pretty despicable. But life is not perfect, and bad things happen to good people. You can't just give up as soon as the going gets rough. You have to keep your chin up, and move on with life. There's always an alternative to suicide, even if you're afraid of what the alternative might bring.

Rehtaeh was a coward, and is the only person responsible for her own death.
That is way WAAAAY harsh. She wasn't a coward she was an abused child :(

Bawksy no one would suggest anyone else is DIRECTLY responsible for her death, but there is ZERO DOUBT that the rape and subsequent bullying made her life unbearable in a way most of us will thankfully not experience.

No, this isn't a perfect world and things aren't black and white. For instance someone can be responsible for helping to cause a situation without actually physically performing an action.

The logic of only the person committing a deed being responsible fails repeatedly when you look at almost any complex crime/situation. 9/11 for example. World War II.

Why can't I find this original post by bawksy? Was it deleted?

Although I do agree that suicide IS the fault of the person who is trying to find a permanent solution to a temporary problem, applying it to FUCKING GANG RAPE is really not cool. We aren't talking about someone's house burning down, your girlfriend breaking up with you, or a loved one dying. ITS RAPE.

Have you been raped? So why are you giving your opinion on it? Do you know what it feels like?

The emotions that go through a victims head after something like this, is like they are dead already. They feel like it's their fault. They feel disgusted and violated. They feel like they deserved it. Not to mention the traumatic incident alone isnt enough, on top of that now the entire world knows about it. The entire world got to see her raped. If she was still around, that memory will never leave her. Ever. No amount of therapy or "alternative to suicide" is going to change that. She may have had the chance to get better, but probably would never be 100% again.


Not to mention this is a child. She does not possess the rationality or logic of an adult. And adult may see something bad that happens to them as something to move on from and gain strength from. But a teenager sometimes does not. It wasn't that long ago for me when I was 17 and I remember how it felt. The hormones, the lack of logic, the one track mind. Something bad happened to me and it was the end of the world, I saw no "chin up and moving on with my life".

Those men are cowards. This girl is not a coward for wanting to remove her pain.
You really should think before posting on a forum that is full of women on a subject you really know nothing about. No offense to you personally, that post just pissed me the fuck off.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.