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Advice for new models

Discussion in 'General Cam Chat' started by Evvie, Aug 8, 2013.

  1. Evvie

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    I am seeing more and more often lately that ladies who do not have verified model status are coming to ACF looking for help. While there are guides and resources in the model's section totalling hundreds of thousands of words, this isn't very useful for someone who has to wait a few days to see them. In an industry where many newcomers are hoping to make cash in just a day or two, this is hardly helpful. So I thought I would put together a new guide in the public section with some handy info!

    There are a lot of links in this post to model's only posts for further reference, but hopefully it will still be helpful to people without MO status.

    If any of you ladies ever get verified model status, there is a lot of new info to comb through. If you want to expand your cam knowledge, I believe these are the best threads to start with, in order of importance:

    New Model Mistakes (a thread where models share their past mistakes)
    Camgirl Success Troubleshooting (help with everything from getting members to come to your room to pre-cam anxiety, earning tokens, doing better privates, and more; a great place to start)
    MFC Camscore Info (if you want to cam on MFC, you need to read this)
    Coming up with show ideas (a crash-course guide in thinking up show ideas, mostly for ladies on MFC but useful on any site)

    As this is a public forum, I am going to predict that in the comments, there will be a lot of people who disagree with a lot of what I share. From the rules that are enforced to how hard a model has to work to make good money, people are going to disagree and cite proof to the contrary (whether or not they have cammed a day in their lives :p). However, it would be silly to try and write a guide to the exceptions of commonality. I believe that this guide is accurate for the majority of new models.

    For new MFC models:

    If you are planning on camming on MFC, you NEED to understand how the camscore system works. I do not believe MFC is a good site for beginner models, which I argue in this post. If you are interested in camming as a career and want to take a more serious approach, I would highly recommend you get experience on a website like Chaturbate before you make the switch to MFC.

    MyFreeCams FAQ:

    What is the camscore and why is it important?
    Camscore is the default ranking system for all models on MFC. In the webcam sex industry, default ranking is extremely important. It does not guarantee minimum earnings, but it is a great predictor of how much traffic a model will get - which she can then translate in to earnings (read the model's only stickied post on "being realistic about what a high camscore will get you"). Basically, camscore is how many you tokens you earn per hour, over a sixty day average. The more tokens you earn per hour, the higher your camscore will be. What other models on the website make influences how many tokens per hour you need to maintain a camscore of 1000. Nothing else contributes to your camscore. Ratings/admires do not count. Friends list adds do not count. Small tips do not lower your camscore. Offline tips do not help your camscore "more" except by improving your token/hour ratio.

    How long does New Model status last and why is it important?
    New Model status (NMS) is a short period of time where new models on MFC are listed with a bright yellow tag on their avatars. Typically, new models receive a great deal more traffic than they normally would. It is commonly considered that NMS is critical to make or break your camming career, and if you waste that time, you will have a more difficult experience on MFC. Many models are surprised and upset when their NMS wears off and suddenly, instead of 100 people in their room they are seeing 5.

    New Model status on MFC used to last for ten broadcasting hours. Now, members choose how long they see models as being new (3, 7, 14, 30, 60, and 90 days). At the time of this post, members being able to rank new models as they choose is a new feature and it is yet unseen if this will make new model status less important or not.

    Which rules are okay to break?
    MFC very infamously does not enforce the majority of its rules. This can lead to confusion about which rules are "okay" to break and which are not. I started a thread in the MO section to get input from other models, and this is the culmination of those thoughts [link to that thread: here].

    In general, these rules are fairly strictly enforced and breaking them will most likely result in getting a warning or your account being banned:
    ♥ Men on camera for any reason.
    ♥ Sexual relations with men, even off-camera (in the same room while camming).
    ♥ Minors, children, babies; may not be on camera or in the same room.
    ♥ Bestiality, or animals/pets on camera in a sexual or provocative context.
    ♥ Illegal drugs, or drugs that may be perceived as illegal in other locations. (Pot does not seem to be a bannable offense)
    ♥ Rape (most host websites like MFC, C4S, and others, will not allow simulation of rape to be displayed)
    ♥ Incest (sexual relations involving family members). [This includes incest role-play and fetish grey areas such as Daddy dynamics]
    ♥ Violence, blood, torture, pain, erotic asphyxiation, or any actions associated with bringing harm to yourself in any way (many models engage in, and totally get away with, mild to moderate sadomasochism, without blood play)

    The following rules are sometimes enforced and sometimes not enforced, but you should probably play it on the safe side:
    ♥ Menstrual bleeding.
    ♥ Breastfeeding or lactation.
    ♥ Unauthorized persons (persons for whom we do not have proper name and ID on file.) - I have had female friends on cam with me for hours with no issue; other models have had their accounts suspended almost immediately for someone briefly coming on screen.
    ♥ Sleeping, "passing out". (I can't remember the last time I heard of someone getting in trouble for this)
    Hypnosis (lol wut?)
    ♥ Discussing or arranging prostitution or escort services. (you can probably get away with it)
    ♥ Urination, defecation, "going to the bathroom", enema play, vomiting. (on the riskier side)
    ♥ Penetration of the vagina or anus with items not meant for sexual stimulation (e.g. bottles, baseball bats).
    ♥ Fisting.

    The following rules are almost never enforced or are literally never enforced:
    ♥ Excessive consumption of alcohol or other legal or prescribed medicines or narcotics.
    ♥ Illegal or unsafe activity of any kind.
    ♥ Actions that may be deemed obscene in your community.
    ♥ Masturbation, penetration, using sexual toys or devices, cunnilingus, or other hardcore sexually explicit activity (in public chat).

    A grey area:
    ♥ Public shows (shows where you are in a public location such as a library). Even though they involve illegal activity and often have strangers, including men, on cam, they do not seem to be in the red zone.

    MFC requires a lot of personal legal info to sign up. Can I trust them?
    In short, yes, you can. Hundreds of thousands of models have signed up with MFC and I have never even heard a rumor of MFC leaking or spreading the info of models. It may make you uncomfortable, but remember that if MFC was not a legit site, they would not require so much information to verify you :)

    How much are tokens worth?
    Every token is worth $0.05 USD. If you earn 20 tokens, you earn $1 USD. If you earn 2000 tokens, you earn $100 USD.

    Members pay at least $0.0675 per token, and usually as much as $0.08 cents.

    How much money can I expect to earn on MFC?
    This entirely depends on you. Some models make very good money from the get-go ($100+ a day), while many others never seem to do well. It has been estimated that the highest earners on MFC make at least five digits (USD, not tokens) a month. There is more discussion about actual number amounts on this thread.

    I have estimated, and never heard an argument to the contrary, that the majority of webcam models earn around $10 or less per hour. On MFC, the vast majority of models make less than $20 per hour. For many women, this is not enough to offset the inherent dangers of the job.

    WHERE IS MY MONEY?!
    ♥ If you get paid by check: It can take up for 3 weeks for your check to arrive in the mail. This is, IMO, the worst payment option to select.
    ♥ If you get paid by direct deposit: It takes 2-4 days (usually 3) for most models to receive direct deposit payment. Remember that if the 1st or the 16th of the month lands on a weekend or holiday, your bank will take extra time to process the payment. Therefore, sometimes it can take up to 5-6 days for your entire payment to process.


    Making money: why should anyone give you money?

    This may sound a little mean, but don't take it personally.

    Why should anyone give you money?

    Women are not deserving of money just because they have tits and a vagina.

    You are not going to be the hottest woman on whatever site you join. You are not going to be the most interesting or have the best body. You are not going to fill a niche market that nobody has thought of before. There are going to be twenty models online at any given time who are better looking than you and who will give it away more cheaply than you.

    If you think you are going to join a camsite and succeed just because you were the prettiest girl in high school, I'll see you when you quit three months from now.

    Models who are the most successful and make the most money are the ones that work the hardest. They work hard to make it look like what they are doing on cam is effortless. On MFC, they are the ones who have 14 hour work days and never take days off or have vacations. (Although I know of more than one model who works so many hours a day, it is interesting that many members do not believe this is true)

    If your plan is to join a camsite and earn $50 or so a day; yes. You can do that with not a whole lot of effort, and probably not a lot of hours! But if you are hoping to make hundreds a day, then get ready for long months of tears and sweat. The simple fact is that the only thing which will differentiate you from the crowd is how hard you are willing to work. I have only heard of one model, ever, who made very good money without putting hard work in - and this was a second hand story :) Here is another way to look at it: I have been part of ACF for about 18 months at the time of this post. I have spent many hours of my life reading the stories and daily thoughts of other models. I have never ever in that time ever heard any model ever say, "it is so great that I make so much money with so little effort!". Ever. Yes, models who work hard do often enjoy periods of ease where their online shifts seem to flow easily and they don't have to "hustle" as hard, but that is always broken up by periods of hard work and difficulty. It may not be the hardest job in the world (I certainly do not believe it is), but you still have to work hard at it.

    If you don't want to work hard, you can still make money. But you won't be making amazing money or even especially good money.

    Advice to new career cam models:

    I started another thread in the model's only section and got a lot of responses for the top advice veteran models would give to newbies. Before I put in their responses, here is my best advice:

    Think about how you want to cam when you are successful. What do you want to be doing?
    Do that starting on your first day on cam.


    If you envision yourself as being the perfect non-nude model, then don't start off doing public cumshows because you don't know how else to increase your room counts. Likewise, if you envision yourself being a posh and exclusive model, don't sell your shows and content for ultracheap. If you want to be an easy-going low-key model, don't build up a posh and exclusive room and then expect everyone to be okay with it when you suddenly change your style.

    Start camming with your eyes on your endgame. It's the best way to avoid big mistakes and to not get in the way of yourself.

    Now, other the advice of other ladies!

    Three common MFC scams

    ♥ "I'm an MFC admin and I need to speak to you on Skype." He's lying; report him.
    ♥ "I'm very experienced at watching other models be successful, and if you Skype with me I'll share their secrets with you." The best he will do is share common info with you that anybody could figure out. There are no "secrets" to being successful at camming.
    ♥ Fake tips: On MFC, when someone actually tips tokens, a ringing sound plays and the color behind the member's name changes to be yellow. It is common to scam new models by typing "has tipped 100 tokens!" or by posting an image which appears to be a legitimate tip.

    How can I be successful on MFC?

    ♥ Price yourself according to what you are worth. This may sound mean, but be realistic about it - few models are worth 2000 tokens for a shot of vodka, and few models are worth $100 to take their shirt off (with a bra underneath, of course!). Don't worry with your prices being cheap if you are making an overall amount of money that satisfies you.

    ♥ Get on cam at the same time every day for 3 hours. Do not take days off. Do not get on late. If you get on early, stay till the end of your shift. Granted, very few models actually do this... and very few models are at the level of success they really want.

    ♥ Don't freak out. Any camscore above 1000 is great. When I started on MFC, I was happy as long as my camscore stayed above 1k, and I was able to put in more hours and make more money overall because of it. Don't stress out over a bad shift or two.

    ♥ Make and sell videos. Get online with a goal; get online to work. Keep in mind what members want to see - just because something is fun for you does not mean it is fun for the men who pay your bills. When you get online, you should be ready to work and geared up with things to sell for members who are interested. Getting online just to hang out because it's fun (and it totally is fun!) is not going to help your career any. Hang out in a member's room, work in your model's room.

    ♥ Smile and be happy. It is amazing how long you sometimes have to look on MFC to find a chick who looks like she wants to be there. Be the woman that looks like she wants to have a good time.

    Alternatively, read this thread to learn success skills for MFC!

    (Readers et all: I unfortunately did not have as much time to work on this guide as I would have liked. I hope future readers will add their two cents and extra help in the comments!)
     
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  2. Gen

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    Another fabulous post, Evvie! :clap:

    Another common "scam", or skeezy thing that I have seen a LOT in new girls rooms: "Get naked bb and then I will take you private!"

    It seems silly but if you are really wanting to increase your income/camscore, you may be tempted to do things like this...however, like Evvie said, if you eventually want to be able to ask for tokens to get naked, you may not want to start out by getting naked for free. And it is very rarely that a guy who says "do ____ and I'll give you tokens/take you private after" follows through, imo.

    I'd also suggest watching other girls cams -- get a premium account when you can, and go watch top models and lower models and in the middle models. Sometimes I don't realize how unappealing something is until I see another girl do it - for example, I LOVE seeing girls get excited about tips, but I saw a girl lean close into the camera while screaming which was super loud! So now I try to be mindful not to shriek into the screen, haha. Or, I will go into a girls room to find her staring blankly at the screen, or obviously doing other things...I sit for about two minutes before getting bored. Even if you're not always jumping around and grinning, paying attention to the room makes a difference.
     
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  3. Evvie

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    In almost two years of camming, only ONE (literally, one) person has ever taken me private/tipped when they said, "convince me to go private with a flash!", "naked and then pvt bb", "seduce me before I tip," or any other "free show and then I pay" scheme. The one dude who did it only tipped me because I knew his scam and it made him feel badly.

    I would highly recommend that you never do free things if you at all want to get paid for them :) That isn't how it works in camland.
     
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  4. Just Me

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    Epic post that should and deserves to be stickied, but somehow I doubt it will stop the "new" questions, which is sad.

    Great post Evvie. :thumbleft:
     
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  5. Evvie

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    First member comment on one of my guides! This is a history making moment considering I've been at it for almost a year exactly!
     
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  6. PennyParker

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    This post is a gold mine for all of us newbies! Thank you SO much Evvie!!!
     
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  7. Jillybean

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    I am starting the think Amber or Jawbs or whoever handles it should give you more editing capabilities to fix small issues like this. :p

    Should be $0.0675 and $0.08 respectively. Correct?

    That's just me being in editor mode. This guide is so amazing, and I can't believe how much effort you put into it! Any new model finding this guide is so lucky!
     
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  8. HiGirlsRHot

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    Definitely a post I've bookmark, to give to a new model I see on MFC :handgestures-salute: /

    I've never seen any member even those with more than 100K reward points buy tokens for less than $599.99 for 7575=$.0792/tokens. I think probably the most common packages are $74.99 for 900 tokens = $.083/tokens and $19.99 for 200 tokens= ~$.10

    Also worth pointing out that you get 1 reward point for every 10 tokens you buy so a person with 1000 reward point has spent ~$800 .
     
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  9. Evvie

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    :woops:
     
  10. ladyxlola

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    this is really helpful! :-D
     
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    Very helpful! Wow. I'm looking into camming and this has helped a lot. thank you.
     
  12. JerryBoBerry

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    Just for the sake of completeness. There are smaller token packages than the 200 tokens for $19.99.

    The smallest I believe is 10 tokens for $1.49. So 14.9 cents per token is the upper limit on a per token price.
     
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  13. RogueWarrior

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    Haven't been around much lately, but this post reminds me of why I never stay away forever.

    The only thing I can see that you missed, especially in the "harsh reality" check is that camming may just not be for you. Nothing to be ashamed of, just reality.

    If I lost my job today, I'd be flipping burgers tomorrow. I could probably be a server tomorrow and make more money initially, but it wouldn't last.

    Just my thought. Take it as you you will.

    With each post of yours, Evvie, I love youmore.
     
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    One of my big annoyances for models is ones that sit there and text or chat on the phone and not following the conversation .
     
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  15. DaisyDameXO

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    Thanks for this.

    I've been so worried about my cam score (currently at like 1050) that I barely stay on, which is counterproductive in itself because if I'm not on, I can't make money.
     
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    Thank you thank you so much for taking the time to post this!

    I'm just in the process of getting verified, but have been reading in the meantime :)
     
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    Thanks a lot!
    It's been helpful...Just a question, to all the models: did someone of your parents,friends and so on ever find out you're a cam girl?
    I know that one day I'm going to face it, but I'm wondering what I'm going to say lol
     
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  18. Evvie

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    Hi, Lolita!

    All of my friends, my brother, and my sister know that I cam. My parents are the only people in my life who do not.

    I found that being "out" about camming has really helped me choose my friends well. Sex work is important to me and you can tell right away whether or not someone has bigoted or archaic ideas about women.

    I still feel awkward introducing myself as a cam model because I do worry about backlash, especially on the Internet. Usually, when someone asks me what I do, I say, "so, do you know about those webcam sex shows? ...Yeah."

    I will not say it was a relief to have my brother and sister know I cam. However it definitely makes it easier to live my life. The problem comes when someone whom you cannot cut out of your life finds out your secret, and has a big problem with it.
     
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    I started to do camshows with my bf, so of course he is agree. I said to my two bestfriends as well I do shows and they are excited, actually they're interested too but they're too "shy".
    I've already posted on dA some pictures of me naked because I like photography and my sister knows it, but I think that if she found out I'm a camgirl, she would be very worried for me and she'd probably start to think it's dangarous and blablabla
    I'm not worried about what people think about me, but what my parents are going to do if they find out this lol it'll be embarassing and then... have you ever thought about other kind of jobs? I mean, I am a student at the university and when I'll get my degree ofcourse I would like to find a job related to what I'm studying... and if this "career" as cam girl can be a problem for my employers?... of course if they find me doing this stuff.
    it's something my bestfriend tried to let me think: if someone find out I do shows, maybe it will be a problem for the future and for other kind of jobs. but actually i think it's very difficult that with all these pornsites and all these camgirls I'll be find by a potential employer.
     
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    Thank you so much Evvie,I wish I found this forum and all your really logical and awesome advice last winter when I created my MFC account way back in the Winter.My cam score is in the mid 800,I never stay on long though so... I think that is why it is still as high as it is.

    The past week I logged in a couple of times and I really liked it! The vibe was cool,I never had many people in my room but the ones I did were all really cool.I don't know if my cam score is reparable or not,but with all the awesome and very generous info on here maybe I do have hope!
     
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    Very 'reparable.' Many models start out and go down even lower before their's starts to rise higher.
     
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    I am a member over on sw so I always read too log off if nothing is going on,I feel like a idiot that my new model tag and traffic was wasted because I was overwhelmed the first day I ever logged in.I plan on studying up,working on my profile,my cam room and fun stuff for any potential customers.
     
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    I had a terrible night last night and the advice from this post was exactly what I needed to hear to keep my head up. I am so thankful for this forum! Keeps me sane :-D
     
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    It's amazing the information this site gives. I wish I came here last week when I first started... However I have the information now, and I'm going to give it my all... My camscore is low only because it was NOT explained clearly and now it has been to me... time to work for it... I think my happy, positive, outgoing personality will be my saving grace... It sounds like a necessity in here.


    I can't wait to read over every thing and keep getting informed.. Thanks for this great forum...
     
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  25. TreeSlug

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    Thank you so much for this. :h: My camscore ducked down under 1000 last week, and it's been dancing around 970-990 for the last couple of days and it's been a big source of anxiety for me. So I really needed to see this. You're amazing!
     
  26. AlixLynx

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    Very helpful!!! As a general "helping hand," I'll also chime in and say it's super important to be yourself! Don't feel the need to act or look a certain way because there are SO many models and members online, there is someone who is a match for everyone. However, as my grandmother always says, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Be friendly and smile! If you're having a bad day, don't take it out on your room. Like any other people-related job, it's not good to be a miserable grump and act like you don't want to be there. My first time camming 2 years ago, I would go on, not say a word and just dance around and play with myself. Now, sometimes I don't even get naked and am SO much more successful.
     
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  27. Super_Stella

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    This was very helpful to me, thank you so much!
    Even if I am not a new model I feel there are so many things I am still learning
    and need to learn. :)
     
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    This is super helpful! Thank you so much!! Xoxo
     
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  29. foxyfreckles

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    Super awesome tips, y'all. Thanks so much. :h:
     
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  30. noemik

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    awwwwh my god, I'm so glad I found this forum before start camming, I think I did my homework haha hope it shows. Thank you for all the tips! C:
     
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