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Bocefish

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No more hocus pocus braving danger shows for him on the Discovery channel.



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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainme ... ar-grylls/

“Man vs. Wild” star Bear Grylls has been fired from the Discovery Channel over a “continuing contractual dispute,” the channel said.

The 37-year-old British T.V. personality has been with The Discovery Channel since 2006, when “Man vs. Wild” premiered.
“Due to a continuing contractual dispute with Bear Grylls, Discovery has terminated all current productions with him,” a Discovery spokesperson told ABC News.

Grylls was fired after he refused to participate in two unannounced projects he was contracted for, sources told The Hollywood Reporter.

Grylls has been filmed crossing piranha-infested rivers, stranded in the deadly swamps of the Florida Everglades, paragliding onto the edge of the Andes to follow rivers into the Ecuadorean jungle and demonstrating how to make a snow cave, find water in deep tunnels and avoid frostbite in Iceland’s arctic environment.

But in 2007, allegations surfaced that Grylls was retiring to a comfortable hotel room between takes of his roughing it in the wild.

Grylls’ representative could not be reached for comment. It is unclear what his next move will be.
 
I would more say television shows are phony, rather than the guy. Of course it's exaggerated for the camera, ultimately it's going to be the producer's decision to do something fake like that lava bridge - but I guarantee if for some reason they flew to a location and either the footage was no good, got ruined, or the bridge was just otherwise uncrossable, lots of tv shows would do this stuff. It's pretty bad form, but it's not journalism - it's entertainment.

As for the man himself, he was a member of the British SAS if I remember correctly - just passing selection means he is extremely fit and able to withstand incredible levels physical and mental pressure that would make most of us quit and/or break. The SAS are unquestionably one of the top special forces units in the world, though I'd argue the aussie SAS are tougher - I might be biased though. There are undoubtedly plenty still serving whose survival skills and endurance exceed Bear Grylls - he's an entertainer.
This guy for example makes Bear's exploits look about as dangerous as Nigella Lawson's
the soldier, described as a specialist sniper, charged headlong into Taliban machinegun fire, and within minutes three enemy guns had been silenced and numerous Taliban fighters killed.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...or-heroic-charge/story-fn59niix-1225991997101

I've never actually watched this show, but I do think it's a bit unreasonable to expect it to be 100% real 100% of the time.
 
The show Man Vs. Wild was supposed to be about Grylls getting dropped off or stuck in certain locations where he has to survive 24/7 for about a week and get filmed doing so along the way. In reality, many of the shows were just a bunch of staged stunts during the day and then he went back to motels or wherever to eat and sleep with the film crew.



There is another show called 'Survivorman' with a Canadian named Les Stroud who is a real survivalists. He also does all his own camera work while surviving 24/7. Same basic principal where he is put in a scenario that everyday people can find themselves stuck in and he has to survive. He not only has to survive, but he also has to carry around and care for all his camera equipment and do the filming.

There's a couple of other survival show teams that basically operate under the same principal as Gryll's show did with film crews, but none were near as fake as Grylls' shows.
 
Bocefish said:
The show Man Vs. Wild was supposed to be about Grylls getting dropped off or stuck in certain locations where he has to survive 24/7 for about a week and get filmed doing so along the way. In reality, many of the shows were just a bunch of staged stunts during the day and then he went back to motels or wherever to eat and sleep with the film crew.
Ahh I see, well SAS operators definitely recieve training to survive basically anywhere - but in this situation the whole film crew would have to as well. It would be kind of amusing though if they had tents, gas fires, sipping beers in hammocks while Bear is nearby enjoying a dinner of roots and leaves washed down with urine lol.
 
Jupiter551 said:
Ahh I see, well SAS operators definitely recieve training to survive basically anywhere - but in this situation the whole film crew would have to as well. It would be kind of amusing though if they had tents, gas fires, sipping beers in hammocks while Bear is nearby enjoying a dinner of roots and leaves washed down with urine lol.

I don't give a shit if he was Tarzan and talked to monkeys. The show was portraying him as surviving in the wild 24/7 and NOT sleeping in some prefabricated man made structure, being fed along with the film crew.

The hosts of the other survival shows actually toughed it out regardless of what creature comforts the film crew had.
 
Bocefish said:
Jupiter551 said:
Ahh I see, well SAS operators definitely recieve training to survive basically anywhere - but in this situation the whole film crew would have to as well. It would be kind of amusing though if they had tents, gas fires, sipping beers in hammocks while Bear is nearby enjoying a dinner of roots and leaves washed down with urine lol.

I don't give a shit if he was Tarzan and talked to monkeys. The show was portraying him as surviving in the wild 24/7 and NOT sleeping in some prefabricated man made structure, being fed along with the film crew.

The hosts of the other survival shows actually toughed it out regardless of what creature comforts the film crew had.
I agree that it's lame, but like I said before it's not journalism - there's no professional code of ethics for "reality" tv.
 
it seems so silly - with that many people involved in production of a show, and obviously identifiable landmarks like that lava bridge, how could they expect not to get found out?
 
After watching that vid you linked with letterman etc...obviously it's portrayed very differently than the reality of filming but I think some of that cinematography and the action sequences (which are frankly pretty impressive) simply wouldn't be possible without some kind of "staging" - simply for the fact that things don't always go perfectly, maybe the cameraman needs to get into position, the angles don't look good, the sound doesn't come through well - so things would often need to be repeated until they got a shot they were happy with. Yes, that does take away from the authenticity - but unless it was self-shot I just don't see how it ever could have been possible to get reliable footage of some of the stunts.

Slightly less exciting but certainly more authentic is an old Aussie show called "The Bush Tucker Man" by Major Les Hiddens, served as a forward scout in Vietnam for two tours, and wrote the Australian Army's Combat Survival manual. He later made the tv series which showed him foraging food from the land - literally how to survive without supplies in the Australian bush. Not quite as spectacular and he doesn't jump out of helicopters or ride giraffes, but it is realistic in the sense that he's a survival expert and accurately shows how to survive on nothing more than the resources around you.

 
to be upset about this show being fake is like me being upset that the producers plant stuff in those garage auction shows. I dont watch the show but others have so clearly they found it entertaining. I watch pro wrestling instead because thats entertaining but still I get to put up with others pointing it out to me that its fake like its going to some how ruin it for me.
 
Everyone with half a brain cell knows WWF is staged solely for entertainment purposes. If Grylls would have been honest from the beginning with some sort of disclaimer, it wouldn't have been such a big deal that ultimately ended up costing him his job.
 
A disclaimer stating "What you're about to see is totally fake" As the show opens up with him going 'Whooooooooaaaaaaa this is totally extreeeeeeeeeme"

If everyone knows its fake then why does he have to point out that its fake? all reality shows are fake but yet are treated as non-scripted totally natural events that would have happened whether a camera was there or not.
 
Any reality show, when proven to be more staged than real won't last long. If he would have come out and stated something along the lines of "what you see is sometimes staged for educational or safety purposes," it would have been fine. When viewers are led to believe he didn't receive any off camera assistance and then learn he's been eating and sleeping with the film crew's creature comforts, it's kind of an epic fail.
 
Ok some of these things are staged or all of them. Who cares? I never watched his show because I want to know how to survive in a place I'll never go to. I watched it to see what gross shit he would put in his mouth. And yes Les Stroud, Survivor Man, has to schlep all his own crap but his "crew" is never more than a few miles away so he is never in any real danger either. Neither of these shows are meant to be instructional on how to survive.

Which would you rather watch, a guy schlep off like 1/4 mile just to have to turn around and come get the camera OR a guy put camel shit in a cloth, squeeze it and drink what comes out?

Lets not get started on the shoeless Hippy and grouchy republican "survival" show lol
 
Neudiin said:
Lets not get started on the shoeless Hippy and grouchy republican "survival" show lol

I watch them and the husband/wife team mostly for laughs and entertainment. If I pick up some useful info along the way, that's just a bonus. The husband/wife team were actually honest when they were in Alaska and said it kicked their ass admitting on the show they couldn't survive and had to be rescued.
 
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