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Bit of both defiantly haha :lol:
 
I predict everyone in that nursing home, staff included will die. Oh, sorry I will read about the cat now. Just my first thought. :)
 
Cool... There's so much we really don't fathom about telepathy or mental connections of the higher brain functions. [aka "The Force" for you StWars folks. ]
When Pops was in one for his extended care, they had several cats and a dog roaming the halls. After they got to know me from visiting, one of the nurses mentioned that when all the critters would congregate in the same hall, they knew someone was passing. Sure enough, she was on duty one night and called me to say they were all outside pops room. He passed several hours later in his sleep.
Same basic connection for the dogs that are trained to warn of seizure and the like for their owners.
 
Either the cat is killing the patients or what is more likely is this is confirmation bias. :lol: I notice there is no mention of the times he went to patients and they did not die right away. They do not claim he has been 100% accurate so I have to assume they ignored those times when the patient did not die.
 
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I think it is cool. If I were to experience it, I would think it creepy, but then, I find creepy usually equals cool, so that doesn't change the cool factor.
 
LadyLuna said:
I think it is cool. If I were to experience it, I would think it creepy, but then, I find creepy usually equals cool, so that doesn't change the cool factor.
Cool post this ^, but perhaps there are some who would consider it creepy. I totally get it. :-D
 
Just Me said:
Either the cat is killing the patients or what is more likely is this is confirmation bias. :lol: I notice there is no mention of the times he went to patients and they did not die right away. They do not claim he has been 100% accurate so I have to assume they ignored those times when the patient did not die.
Well on the wiki page it says he was up to at least 25 consecutive reported instances when a particular journal article was published, and later says he was up to 50 by jan 2010. Consecutive, ie hadn't missed any.
 
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Jupiter551 said:
Just Me said:
Either the cat is killing the patients or what is more likely is this is confirmation bias. :lol: I notice there is no mention of the times he went to patients and they did not die right away. They do not claim he has been 100% accurate so I have to assume they ignored those times when the patient did not die.
Well on the wiki page it says he was up to at least 25 consecutive reported instances when a particular journal article was published, and later says he was up to 50 by jan 2010. Consecutive, ie hadn't missed any.
Yups! And also mentions how he rejects the healthier patients, often even hisses at them. lol I think he's an opportunist kitteh. He doesn't like a lot of attention, so he's figured out how to find a warm body but one that is unlikely to touch him or even talk to him. So he spends his time in search for a warm, albeit temporary, safe, warm place. lol
 
A few years ago, I watched a program about how some owners had reported that their cancers had been discovered by their dogs. At that time the program makers interviewed many cancer specialists and the heads of a number of cancer charities, and almost every single one was dismissive of the idea.

Fast forward a few years and it is now not only just an area of research but there are even organisations that actively train dogs in medical intervention, including ones to detect cancers, for example :

http://medicaldetectiondogs.org.uk/

So who knows what cats pick up that makes them act in the way that this one does. I just wouldn't dismiss it as coincidence.
 
Nordling said:
Jupiter551 said:
Just Me said:
Either the cat is killing the patients or what is more likely is this is confirmation bias. :lol: I notice there is no mention of the times he went to patients and they did not die right away. They do not claim he has been 100% accurate so I have to assume they ignored those times when the patient did not die.
Well on the wiki page it says he was up to at least 25 consecutive reported instances when a particular journal article was published, and later says he was up to 50 by jan 2010. Consecutive, ie hadn't missed any.
Yups! And also mentions how he rejects the healthier patients, often even hisses at them. lol I think he's an opportunist kitteh. He doesn't like a lot of attention, so he's figured out how to find a warm body but one that is unlikely to touch him or even talk to him. So he spends his time in search for a warm, albeit temporary, safe, warm place. lol
lol all you want but considering the temperament of many cats, I think this is not at all a bad theory.
 
A lot of animals will start to warn people of low blood sugar, high blood pressure, seizure, etc. without any training at all. I know someone who's dog starting sniffing from her ankle up to her knee very deliberately when she had low blood sugar and she realized a pattern of it.

I think the story of Oscar--and also the animals that congregated in the same hall--pretty cool, but definitely a little creepy for the person if they knew. Maybe not at the same time, though, since they and their family will be able to know when to say goodbye.

Animals have a keen sense of when something is wrong, I find it fascinating. On that same note, I've heard of dogs and cats just "not liking" someone for no reason at all, then later they find out that person had ill intentions for the owner. Dogs and cats are really good at picking up on that.
 
Jupiter551 said:
Well on the wiki page it says he was up to at least 25 consecutive reported instances when a particular journal article was published, and later says he was up to 50 by jan 2010. Consecutive, ie hadn't missed any.
I found it interesting that (at least according to my quick and dirty math) he seems to be averaging about 10 accurate death predictions per year. That's nearly one every month. He could be nearing 70 by now.
 
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On that same note, I've heard of dogs and cats just "not liking" someone for no reason at all, then later they find out that person had ill intentions for the owner. Dogs and cats are really good at picking up on that.

If someone comes over and my cats don't like them it's a huge red flag for me. I totally pay attention to how my cats interact with my visitors.
 
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Just Me said:
Either the cat is killing the patients or what is more likely is this is confirmation bias. :lol: I notice there is no mention of the times he went to patients and they did not die right away. They do not claim he has been 100% accurate so I have to assume they ignored those times when the patient did not die.
Well on the wiki page it says he was up to at least 25 consecutive reported instances when a particular journal article was published, and later says he was up to 50 by jan 2010. Consecutive, ie hadn't missed any.

Sorry, yes I missed that consecutive part.

Strangely there is not much information since then, when the doctors book came out. :think: I am always skeptical of these type of claims because rarely is anything ever 100%. I have no doubts that animals can detect things with their senses (just the 5, no ESP). Even drug and bomb sniffing dogs are not 100%.

Apparently it was just an essay that was published in the NEJM and not a scientific paper. http://www.csicop.org/si/show/oscar_the_death-predicting_cat/
 
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VeronicaChaos said:
If someone comes over and my cats don't like them it's a huge red flag for me. I totally pay attention to how my cats interact with my visitors.

Don't get me wrong, I totally believe in that astrologers, fortune tellers, even fortune cookies can predict the future. Their predictions are often true because the change the future. If a horoscope tells you that today is not a good day for drastic decisions, maybe you will not quit your job today, after all. If a strange woman pulled a card and told you that you are going to meet a dark stranger, maybe you will talk to that neighbor you've been stalking after all.

...But cats?... Come on! Even I, with my misanthropy and ineptness at communication, consider myself socially smarter than a cat. At least, I perceive human body language, hear the tone of the voice and critically assess life stories. And a cat — the bastard will sell his soul for a piece of canned tuna. How can you trust anything he does?
 
GingerOwnsChris said:
VeronicaChaos said:
If someone comes over and my cats don't like them it's a huge red flag for me. I totally pay attention to how my cats interact with my visitors.

Don't get me wrong, I totally believe in that astrologers, fortune tellers, even fortune cookies can predict the future. Their predictions are often true because the change the future. If a horoscope tells you that today is not a good day for drastic decisions, maybe you will not quit your job today, after all. If a strange woman pulled a card and told you that you are going to meet a dark stranger, maybe you will talk to that neighbor you've been stalking after all.

...But cats?... Come on! Even I, with my misanthropy and ineptness at communication, consider myself socially smarter than a cat. At least, I perceive human body language, hear the tone of the voice and critically assess life stories. And a cat — the bastard will sell his soul for a piece of canned tuna. How can you trust anything he does?
I doubt cats have a conception of a soul, only silly humans do that. Cats never lie, it's not in their abilities. They only do what is of their nature, and if a cat has the ability to spot a douche, who are we to question it? lol :)
 
GingerOwnsChris said:
VeronicaChaos said:
If someone comes over and my cats don't like them it's a huge red flag for me. I totally pay attention to how my cats interact with my visitors.

Don't get me wrong, I totally believe in that astrologers, fortune tellers, even fortune cookies can predict the future. Their predictions are often true because the change the future. If a horoscope tells you that today is not a good day for drastic decisions, maybe you will not quit your job today, after all. If a strange woman pulled a card and told you that you are going to meet a dark stranger, maybe you will talk to that neighbor you've been stalking after all.

...But cats?... Come on! Even I, with my misanthropy and ineptness at communication, consider myself socially smarter than a cat. At least, I perceive human body language, hear the tone of the voice and critically assess life stories. And a cat — the bastard will sell his soul for a piece of canned tuna. How can you trust anything he does?

Are you one of those people that cats hate?
 
Shaun__ said:
GingerOwnsChris said:
VeronicaChaos said:
If someone comes over and my cats don't like them it's a huge red flag for me. I totally pay attention to how my cats interact with my visitors.

Don't get me wrong, I totally believe in that astrologers, fortune tellers, even fortune cookies can predict the future. Their predictions are often true because the change the future. If a horoscope tells you that today is not a good day for drastic decisions, maybe you will not quit your job today, after all. If a strange woman pulled a card and told you that you are going to meet a dark stranger, maybe you will talk to that neighbor you've been stalking after all.

...But cats?... Come on! Even I, with my misanthropy and ineptness at communication, consider myself socially smarter than a cat. At least, I perceive human body language, hear the tone of the voice and critically assess life stories. And a cat — the bastard will sell his soul for a piece of canned tuna. How can you trust anything he does?

Are you one of those people that cats hate?

If cats were smarter and did not care for canned tuna, they would indeed hate me :lol:
 
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