Difference Ohmibod and Kiiroo Esca?

[Smores]

What is the relationship between Ohmibod and Kiiroo's Esca, which looks a lot like the Lovense Lush? It's confusing only because the product name is Esca, but their online demonstrations show Ohmibod as one of the affiliated logos. As best I can tell Kiiroo makes the Esca hardware, and Ohmibod is a partner company that is making one particular toy application and sells the Esca in some sort of OEM arrangement with Kiiroo. Is that it?

As I understand it, Ohmibod is not a good choice for a public CB show. Apparently Esca/Ohmibod do not pick up the tip sounds reliably. Lovense Lush has an app that integrates better with CB and uses Bluetooth to control the Lush. Is that going to change any time soon, or is Ohmibod still not trying to copy that design?

For anyone that has used both Lush and Esca, how do they feel? Some people say Esca has weak vibrations. How much weaker?

Finally, my real interest here is finding the best toy to use remotely with the FeelConnect app. I hate the Lovense Remote app, for reasons I documented in a different thread. Esca should work with FeelConnect natively. Has anyone tried to use Lush with FeelConnect? Does it work?

 

[KiirooAmsterdam]

Hello Smores,

The Esca was made in partnership between OhMiBod and Kiiroo. Vibration, colour, LED lights, as well as tail length, make the Esca different from other devices you see on cam. That is why you see both company logos present when you buy Esca.

It is the second toy we created in partnership with OhMiBod. The OhMiBod Fuse Powered by Kiiroo is the 1st toy, and it is a beautiful dual-stim vibe with LED lights that illuminate (like the Esca) with different colours, in order to show vibration intensity. We will be releasing a hot pink version of Fuse in the next 2 weeks.

For the FeelConnect app, these are the compatible devices. If you work on Chaturbate and have an OhMibod product, you can also use the OhMiBod remote app ’s sound function. They recently added a really cool sound function.

 

[Smores]

Hello Smores,

The Esca was made in partnership between OhMiBod and Kiiroo. Vibration, colour, LED lights, as well as tail length, make the Esca different from other devices you see on cam. That is why you see both company logos present when you buy Esca.

It is the second toy we created in partnership with OhMiBod. The OhMiBod Fuse Powered by Kiiroo is the 1st toy, and it is a beautiful dual-stim vibe with LED lights that illuminate (like the Esca) with different colours, in order to show vibration intensity. We will be releasing a hot pink version of Fuse in the next 2 weeks.

For the FeelConnect app, these are the compatible devices. If you work on Chaturbate and have an OhMibod product, you can also use the OhMiBod remote app ’s sound function. They recently added a really cool sound function.

Thanks for the compatible devices list. Esca is not listed on that, yet Esca is clearly shown being used with FeelConnect in the Kiiroo Youtube videos on Esca.

I would really encourage you to develop a Chrome Extension for CB that more cleanly integrates vibration of your toys with tipping on the site. Many people have reported that relying on the sound alone is not reliable.

 

[Lelo1]

@KiirooAmsterdam

Do you work for Kirroo?

I see pornhub branded toys, cowgirl branded toys, fleshlight branded toys are not on the list of supported devices, Any plans to add them to the list?

Do you know if there is any plans to open up interactive videos on pornhub to amateur models?

Does kiiroo offers referral links for models?

What's the differences between Onyx, Onyx2, Blowbot Stroker and Blowbot Turbo Stroker, and launch? Is there a comparison page or some thing?

Is there a list some where that shows all the comparable kiirroo toys, as well as what services/websites/apps each toy does and does not work with? (pornhub, FeelConnect, feelvr, vstroker, ohmybod, 3DXChat, extra)

Any plans to have a Feel Connect app for laptops and desktops?

 

[KiirooAmsterdam]

@KiirooAmsterdam

Do you work for Kirroo?

I see pornhub branded toys, cowgirl branded toys, fleshlight branded toys are not on the list of supported devices, Any plans to add them to the list?

Do you know if there is any plans to open up interactive videos on pornhub to amateur models?

Does kiiroo offers referral links for models?

What's the differences between Onyx, Onyx2, Blowbot Stroker and Blowbot Turbo Stroker, and launch? Is there a comparison page or some thing?

Is there a list some where that shows all the comparable kiirroo toys, as well as what services/websites/apps each toy does and does not work with? (pornhub, FeelConnect, feelvr, vstroker, ohmybod, 3DXChat, extra)

Any plans to have a Feel Connect app for laptops and desktops?

[Do you work for Kirroo?] Yes, I am a Kiiroo representative responding on behalf of the company.

[I see pornhub branded toys, cowgirl branded toys, fleshlight branded toys are not on the list of supported devices, Any plans to add them to the list?] We sent the wrong list. Here is the updated list. The above-mentioned toys are all compatible with the FeelConnect.

We-Vibe

• Rave
  
  
• Plus
  
  
• Nova
  
  
• Classic
  
  
• Wish
  
  
• Pivot
  
  
• Verge
  
  
• Gala
  
  
• Jive
  
  
• Sync

OhMiBod

• Bluemotion NEX|1
  
  
• Lightshow
  
  
• Bluemotion NEX|2
  
  
• Esca
  
  
• Fuse

Vorze

• A10

Imtoy

• Piu

Fleshlight

• Launch

Kiiroo

• Pearl
  
  
• Onyx
  
  
• Pearl2
  
  
• Onyx2

The Cowgirl

• The Cowgirl

Pornhub

• Virtual Rabbit
  
  
• Virtual Blowbot Stroker
  
  
• Virtual Blowbot Turbo Stroker

[Do you know if there is any plans to open up interactive videos on pornhub to amateur models?] This will be a feature on FeelMe.com in the future.

[Does kiiroo offers referral links for models?] Kiiroo has an affiliate program kiiroo.refersion.com that anyone can sign up to.

What’s the differences between Onyx, Onyx2,Blowbot Stroker and Blowbot Turbo Stroker, and launch? Is there a comparison page or some thing?
Onyx2 is the second-generation Onyx.

Blowbot Stroker - Vibrates and is a handheld stroker that you need to use like a Fleshlight type device (but it vibrates and is interactive) and Blowbot Turbo Stroker has contracting rings inside it that mimic intimacy. Both of these devices are also compatible with all of the Kiiroo devices.

We have an article that describes the difference between the Onyx2 and Launch. Here is the link.

[Is there a list some where that shows all the comparable kiirroo toys, as well as what services/websites/apps each toy does and does not work with? (pornhub, FeelConnect, feelvr, vstroker, ohmybod, 3DXChat, extra) ]

FeelMe.com is where you can see the list of compatible websites (excluding Pornhub). Unfortunately, we do not support the 3D games anymore. (They were all using the Desktop platform which is no longer supported ).
The FeelVR has been integrated into the FeelConnect app and is no longer in use.


[Any plans to have a Feel Connect app for laptops and desktops?] In 2017 we discontinued our desktop application and moved everything to the FeelConnect app. This was due to the fact that many desktops do not support Bluetooth, so this gave us an abundance of issues at the time. Perhaps in the future, we will make it possible to use both again.

If you have anymore questions please feel free to ask

 

[KiirooAmsterdam]

Thanks for the compatible devices list. Esca is not listed on that, yet Esca is clearly shown being used with FeelConnect in the Kiiroo Youtube videos on Esca.

I would really encourage you to develop a Chrome Extension for CB that more cleanly integrates vibration of your toys with tipping on the site. Many people have reported that relying on the sound alone is not reliable.

Sorry, We sent the wrong list. These are the devices compatible with the FeelConnect:

We-Vibe

• Rave
  
• Plus
  
• Nova
  
• Classic
  
• Wish
  
• Pivot
  
• Verge
  
• Gala
  
• Jive
  
• Sync

OhMiBod

• Bluemotion NEX|1
  
• Lightshow
  
• Bluemotion NEX|2
  
• Esca
  
• Fuse

Vorze

• A10

Imtoy

• Piu

Fleshlight

• Launch

Kiiroo

• Pearl
  
• Onyx
  
• Pearl2
  
• Onyx2

The Cowgirl

• The Cowgirl

Pornhub

• Virtual Rabbit
  
• Virtual Blowbot Stroker
  
• Virtual Blowbot Turbo Stroker

[I would really encourage you to develop a Chrome Extension for CB that more cleanly integrates vibration of your toys with tipping on the site. Many people have reported that relying on the sound alone is not reliable.] As we are not integrated with CB, this is not something we are able to do at this moment. The sound function was added to the FeelConnect app for performers who were using the OhMibod app sound function with Kiiroo + OMB toys on CB before it was deleted. Since then, OhMiBod has reintroduced their sound function with added sound intensity function, that performers are using on CB. We hope this answers your question. Please feel free to ask more, we are always available to answer your questions.

 

[Smores]

Sorry, We sent the wrong list. These are the devices compatible with the FeelConnect:

The Cowgirl

• The Cowgirl

[I would really encourage you to develop a Chrome Extension for CB that more cleanly integrates vibration of your toys with tipping on the site. Many people have reported that relying on the sound alone is not reliable.] As we are not integrated with CB, this is not something we are able to do at this moment. The sound function was added to the FeelConnect app for performers who were using the OhMibod app sound function with Kiiroo + OMB toys on CB before it was deleted. Since then, OhMiBod has reintroduced their sound function with added sound intensity function, that performers are using on CB. We hope this answers your question. Please feel free to ask more, we are always available to answer your questions.

Since you support Cowgirl, could we get you to add support for Motorbunny? This is definitely the cheapest product in this product category and it gets rave reviews and has won awards. They just added bluetooth support. Maybe you should think about buying that small company and integrating the product offering with your others? Devices like Cowgirl and Motorbunny are important because they are hands-free toys. That just creates a much better experience when the control is being done remotely.

Regarding the CB app, I would like to offer the devil's advocate argument about why you should support the product natively in Chrome with an extension. To the extent that models use your product on CB, you are getting free advertising. There are hundreds of thousands of people on that website every day. Many of them would be thinking about buying the same toy for their wives/girlfriends. Today, Lovense is killing Ohmibod, because Lovense Lush is reliable and Esca is not, based simply on the sound function not being reliable. Lush is not perfect either and has bluetooth reliability issues. You still have a chance to compete with them, but in any case you are losing a lot of sales from this website because you are not exploiting it to get free advertising. To get that advertising, you need a competitive product that models will like and use in their shows.

 

[Lelo1]

@Smores If I had to guess, Chaturbate could become a content partner, if they wanted to support FellMe enabled toys. The best way to make this happen is probable to let chaturbate known that you want them to support FellMe. Maybe @punker barbie can pass your request onto chaturbate.

If CB did support FeelMe, you probable wouldn't need a special browser, app or plugin to read your tips. You would just open the FeelMe app, scan the QR code, and it would just work.

 

[Lelo1]

@AmberCutie hey if @KiirooAmsterdam wants to get verified as an industry rep do they just go through the model verification thread?

 

[Smores]

@Smores If I had to guess, Chaturbate could become a content partner, if they wanted to support FellMe enabled toys. The best way to make this happen is probable to let chaturbate known that you want them to support FellMe. Maybe @punker barbie can pass your request onto chaturbate.

If CB did support FeelMe, you probable wouldn't need a special browser, app or plugin to read your tips. You would just open the FeelMe app, scan the QR code, and it would just work.

Very powerful idea, just great actually. So CB would essentially inherit all of the toys supported by the platform. It's pretty easy to imagine an ROI on that.

Does each instance of a toy have its own QR code? When I am in the model's room, she would have inserted the barcodes into her profile, and anyone could then scan those?

I haven't used FeelMe yet, but would the model and viewer each have their own user accounts in FeelMe, and then the model has to explicitly allow a particular userid to gain control?

 

[AmberCutie]

@AmberCutie hey if @KiirooAmsterdam wants to get verified as an industry rep do they just go through the model verification thread?

No. That's for models.

I normally only offer the industry rep title to wider/better known sites involved in the camming community.

 

[Lelo1]

Very powerful idea, just great actually. So CB would essentially inherit all of the toys supported by the platform. It's pretty easy to imagine an ROI on that.

Does each instance of a toy have its own QR code? When I am in the model's room, she would have inserted the barcodes into her profile, and anyone could then scan those?

I haven't used FeelMe yet, but would the model and viewer each have their own user accounts in FeelMe, and then the model has to explicitly allow a particular userid to gain control?

From what I've seen, on sites that support feelme, The QR code is viable for the model. It's how they link their toy to their account. It's really up to the site, on how they're going to integrate it. Right now it seems like cam4, flirt4free, ImLive, xcams supports feelme in some way.

 

[Smores]

From what I've seen, on sites that support feelme, The QR code is viable for the model. It's how they link their toy to their account. It's really up to the site, on how they're going to integrate it. Right now it seems like cam4, flirt4free, ImLive, xcams supports feelme in some way.

If you know of any specific rooms at the sites you list that are using this FeelMe interface with unusual toys, I would love to see how the user interface works. Feel free to give the models a public shout out or send me a PM. I am particularly curious about how the interface to a seated toy like Cowgirl works.

I thought it was weird that none of the supported devices appears to be a sex machine. I see a lot of models using those on CB. FeelMe should support some of those.

 

[Lelo1]

@Smores

ScarletRaven_69 seems to have a cowgril on cam4

Technology wise, the Fleshlight Launch is very close to a fucking machine.. It looks like some people have played around with this idea. Considering it's like 200+. It's kind of a lot for some one to spend for some thing that may or may not work that well.

Look like flirt4free is doing tip to vibrate, one way control, One way group broadcast, and 2 way toy to toy control.

shockspot makes an internet controlled fucking machine. But I haven't herd of it having feelme support.

 

[Smores]

@Smores

ScarletRaven_69 seems to have a cowgril on cam4

By any chance do you have her Cam4 screenname? It is not on her Twitter feed and cam4.com/scarletraven_69 comes up empty.

Technology wise, the Fleshlight Launch is very close to a fucking machine.. It looks like some people have played around with this idea. Considering it's like 200+. It's kind of a lot for some one to spend for some thing that may or may not work that well.

That would break in three sessions. It is definitely a toy not up to the task.

I really like the way they got the head on the top to bob up and down, and I do think that would be an amazing additional level of control to add into a seated toy or an f-machine. Let's call that movement "wobble". Ideally you want controls for stroke length, speed, vibration, rotation, and "wobble". Nothing has all of those.

Look like flirt4free is doing tip to vibrate, one way control, One way group broadcast, and 2 way toy to toy control.

I love the concept, but the implementation is too complicated. I really think it is mistake that in order to control her $100 toy I have to buy a completely different $100-to-$200 toy and then learn to use my fingers to control it. I think an onscreen software controller would scale to a much larger audience. What they have today is an extreme niche product because of the requirement for the viewer to buy a toy. But - beyond that - the viewer also has to be an engineer and figure out all of these different compatibility options, control options. It's too much geek....

shockspot makes an internet controlled fucking machine. But I haven't herd of it having feelme support.

Shockspot's toy is amazing, but there are problems. It is only 23 pounds. It only applies 17 pounds of thrust force. And the setup and control makes you feel like you are on a factory floor controlling a million dollar machine with some archaic software built by a control engineer. None of it looks targeted to a consumer market. I very much get the feel that Shockspot was designed for porn studies as their customers, not consumers.

A big problem with a lot of these toys is the failure to embrace wireless technology, bluetooth, and Internet connectivity. It is just weird that the sex toy industry is only now picking up on the potential of these things, nearly 20 years after the Internet went mainstream.

 

[Smores]

Shockspot's toy is amazing, but there are problems. It is only 23 pounds. It only applies 17 pounds of thrust force. And the setup and control makes you feel like you are on a factory floor controlling a million dollar machine with some archaic software built by a control engineer. None of it looks targeted to a consumer market. I very much get the feel that Shockspot was designed for porn studies as their customers, not consumers.

What I meant to say: "...Shockspot was designed for porn studios as their customers, not consumers."

 

[Lelo1]

By any chance do you have her Cam4 screenname? It is not on her Twitter feed and cam4.com/scarletraven_69 comes up empty.

https://www.cam4.com/scarletraven

I really think it is mistake that in order to control her $100 toy I have to buy a completely different $100-to-$200 toy and then learn to use my fingers to control it.

I don't think you're require to have a toy to remotely control a model's toy.

The advantage of having a toy is that that your toy can sync up with the models. Every thrust she makes with a pearl, you feel with a Onyx.

It is just weird that the sex toy industry is only now picking up on the potential of these things, nearly 20 years after the Internet went mainstream.

RealTouch had all of this back in 2008. It was starting to take off. 30 for virtual hand jobs, 60 for virtual sex. Some models were pulling in 200+ for 30 minutes. But the company was killed off when the owner of a patent demand more money at the wrong time, The investors backing RealTouch got spooked, and the whole thing went south.

 

[KiirooAmsterdam]

Since you support Cowgirl, could we get you to add support for Motorbunny? This is definitely the cheapest product in this product category and it gets rave reviews and has won awards. They just added bluetooth support. Maybe you should think about buying that small company and integrating the product offering with your others? Devices like Cowgirl and Motorbunny are important because they are hands-free toys. That just creates a much better experience when the control is being done remotely.

Adding support is not something we can do without another company's permission/contract. A partnership needs to be made in order to make devices compatible. We will tell our tech team about Motorbunny and that the cam community loves it. If Motorbunny is keen to work with us they should send over an email to info@kiiroo.com

 

[KiirooAmsterdam]

@Smores If I had to guess, Chaturbate could become a content partner, if they wanted to support FellMe enabled toys. The best way to make this happen is probable to let chaturbate known that you want them to support FellMe. Maybe @punker barbie can pass your request onto chaturbate.

If CB did support FeelMe, you probable wouldn't need a special browser, app or plugin to read your tips. You would just open the FeelMe app, scan the QR code, and it would just work.

FeelMe is actually a website,not a webcam platform. When a partnership is made with a webcam company, ALL interactive models from those webcam platforms will be shown on FeelMe.com. So essentially what happens is a viewer can come to FeelMe and can choose a performer, and go directly to the website they are from. SO you could end up on Cam4, Flirt4Free, Imlive etc

The app itself is FeelConnect. Once integrated with webcam platforms, performers can choose tip amounts within the app, see whose tipped what and when and much more. Flirt4Free has integrated our 2 - way tipping technology where you can take viewers with interactive devices into 'private room' for a 2-way interactive session.

for more info we have this page for performers. https://www.kiiroo.com/collections/performers

 

[KiirooAmsterdam]

From what I've seen, on sites that support feelme, The QR code is viable for the model. It's how they link their toy to their account. It's really up to the site, on how they're going to integrate it. Right now it seems like cam4, flirt4free, ImLive, xcams supports feelme in some way.

As a performer, you scan a QR code so that the app can connect to the webcam platform and also so the platform knows what device you are using.

 

[KiirooAmsterdam]

@Smores

ScarletRaven_69 seems to have a cowgril on cam4

Technology wise, the Fleshlight Launch is very close to a fucking machine.. It looks like some people have played around with this idea. Considering it's like 200+. It's kind of a lot for some one to spend for some thing that may or may not work that well.

Look like flirt4free is doing tip to vibrate, one way control, One way group broadcast, and 2 way toy to toy control.

shockspot makes an internet controlled fucking machine. But I haven't herd of it having feelme support.

Yes, Scarlet definitely has a Cowgirl!

 

[KiirooAmsterdam]

Regarding the CB app, I would like to offer the devil's advocate argument about why you should support the product natively in Chrome with an extension. To the extent that models use your product on CB, you are getting free advertising. There are hundreds of thousands of people on that website every day. Many of them would be thinking about buying the same toy for their wives/girlfriends. Today, Lovense is killing Ohmibod, because Lovense Lush is reliable and Esca is not, based simply on the sound function not being reliable. Lush is not perfect either and has bluetooth reliability issues. You still have a chance to compete with them, but in any case you are losing a lot of sales from this website because you are not exploiting it to get free advertising. To get that advertising, you need a competitive product that models will like and use in their shows.

Partnerships and implementing technology does take time. Of course, we are always open to working with them! We understand that there is a huge opportunity that comes with partnering with CB.

 

[Smores]

Adding support is not something we can do without another company's permission/contract. A partnership needs to be made in order to make devices compatible. We will tell our tech team about Motorbunny and that the cam community loves it. If Motorbunny is keen to work with us they should send over an email to info@kiiroo.com

What is the name and contact information for your business development person?

 

[Smores]

FeelMe is actually a website,not a webcam platform. When a partnership is made with a webcam company, ALL interactive models from those webcam platforms will be shown on FeelMe.com. So essentially what happens is a viewer can come to FeelMe and can choose a performer, and go directly to the website they are from. SO you could end up on Cam4, Flirt4Free, Imlive etc

The app itself is FeelConnect. Once integrated with webcam platforms, performers can choose tip amounts within the app, see whose tipped what and when and much more. Flirt4Free has integrated our 2 - way tipping technology where you can take viewers with interactive devices into 'private room' for a 2-way interactive session.

for more info we have this page for performers. https://www.kiiroo.com/collections/performers

Okay, but the automatic response to tips is based on the sound of a tip, right? There is not a tight fit there between your platform automation and the act of tipping a performer on CB.