European models go through the "North America" region filter

[GingerOwnsChris]

Is it just me, or do other people see a few European rooms on MFC despite the "Show only: North America" filter being set? (example) I suppose these studios are using a proxy in the U.S. Not cool...

 

[sweetiebatman]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

Its the same with every region, In fact its really frustrating in the UK section as there's not that many models (well not that I can see as a lot will have UK blocked) online anyway, about 50% of the models I see are foreign when filtering to UK

 

[LacieLaPlante]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

Some models use a VPN to bypass the filters, as they feel they are losing business to the Eastern European filter.

 

[sweetiebatman]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

All the models i have seen doing it have been Eastern European though, although I suppose it is for the same reason as the competition in that filter is stupid and they want to get out of there!

I have only ever seen a handful of French, Italian etc models online, I have never seen anyone from the Nordic countries but they are probably in there swamped by the literally thousands of models from the former Soviet states

 

[Jupiter551]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

Well I've never really cared because I think grouping entire populations of people together is silly. I will say though that one of my favourite models, Romanian, was upset for a while because the UK filter showed her as being in the UK when she wasn't, never claimed to be and didn't do anything to try to bypass it. Her sister, only a few feet away and using the same internet connection was listed as Europe. All day she'd get guys coming in asking if she was really from the UK and for ages she didn't know why they asked.

 

[JickyJuly]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

If I were European and spoke English well, I'd for sure try to find a way around getting lumped in with the loads of Romanian studio models. Jussayin'.

 

[sweetiebatman]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

I think the main problem is the filters are terrible and should be a bit more specific for linguistically diverse regions like Europe

 

[Just Me]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

While I am sure the vast majority are either missed by the filter or using VPN/proxy, is it also possible that some might be in North America and saying different on their profile for protection? I certainly see the opposite quite often. On profile it says USA and they show up on the Europe/Russia filiter and they are definitely where the filter says.

 

[Jupiter551]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

I find it easy to tell if they're American or Euro - just go in their room and if they're talking your ear off in the first few seconds they're American.

*just kidding girls please don't hurt me

 

[Nordling]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

I find it easy to tell if they're American or Euro - just go in their room and if they're talking your ear off in the first few seconds they're American.

*just kidding girls please don't hurt me

Ha! That is a minor little game I play for my own silly-assed entertainment. I make a guess at where the model's from before I enter their room or check their bio. I've gotten fairly decent at it.

 

[Airwolfe]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

Some models use a VPN to bypass the filters, as they feel they are losing business to the Eastern European filter.

There is no Eastern European filter.

 

[LilyMarie]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

If I were European and spoke English well, I'd for sure try to find a way around getting lumped in with the loads of Romanian studio models. Jussayin'.

I think the main problem is the filters are terrible and should be a bit more specific for linguistically diverse regions like Europe

Thank you for understanding why girls do this.
When I saw the title of this thread I was so afraid European models who use VPNs would get ripped apart in here by everyone.


I don't keep it a secret that I use a VPN to get around the filter and I'd like to explain why I do it.
An American model once told me it would be a really good idea to try it, so I did, and I'm extremely happy I followed her advice!
The difference between broadcasting with the VPN and without it (= the difference between being displayed as a European or as an American model on MFC) is so much bigger than I thought it would be. I really don't like to work on days when the VPN doesn't work. The number of premiums I have in my room on those days is laughable, compared to the number on days when the VPN is working. The difference is already obvious a minute after switching my cam on.

What we learn from that, of course, is that many, many premiums filter out European and Russian models. I think that's sad, because when I ask myself why they don't want to see European and Russian models, I of course think of 'typical' Eastern Euro models. We all know what their approach to camming tends to be, what they do in their chatroom, and what their communication with the members consists of. *I'm not saying all Eastern European models are the same.*

So, I can understand that especially members who are looking for a very communicative model who shows a lot of personality do not want to have these rooms appearing on their MFC front page. While I understand their decision to make EU models 'disappear', this decision also limits me incredibly. European girls who speak English well suffer from the filter because they get filtered out by people who actually wouldn't mind seeing them on cam! Like sweetiebatman says the filter is so unspecific and needs to be changed ASAP. There will still be guys who filter out all of Europe because they don't want to talk to non-native English speakers, but there will also be LOTS of guys who will only filter out Eastern Europe. I've talked about this with members in my room. I'm sorry I have to 'cheat' at the moment by letting MFC's technology believe that I'm from the US, but my income suffers otherwise and it's unfair.

I might add that I've been using VPNs for several months and I've not had a single person complaining or saying anything to me about the fact that they found my room even though they set their filter to 'Show only North America' or 'Hide Europe/Russia'. Not a single one.

 

[RoxieRed]

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I was hoping Lily would chime in! If anyone wants to know why a model would use a VPN, they need to visit Lily's room and see the types of models that many members would be missing out on by using the too restrictive filter. Her room fits in well with the "typical vibe" that the guys are looking for when they filter out all but North American or UK models. It wouldn't be fair for models like her to have to suffer low room counts due to being filtered when many of the guys who filtered out European models would love her room if they visited!

 

[GingerOwnsChris]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

It's only that LilyMarie is a needle in a haystack.

 

[dustinxxxizzle]

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Yeah, I didn't know LilyMarie wasn't actually in the States! But she is definitely the exception and not the norm.

There were just way too many years before MFC where all the cam sites were majority European studio girls that it has jaded me, so I do use the filter to set it to North America only. I still remember the days where you'd get scammed left and right by girls who would just try to talk to you the entire duration of the private and ignore any polite requests. Cam sites were awful back then, and there was nothing you could really do about it.

Besides, it's been brought up before how there are almost too many girls on MFC now to truly find the gems who can't make it to the first page. Setting a filter really does make it easier to find a girl you fancy.

 

[RedHerby]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

Is it just me, or do other people see a few European rooms on MFC despite the "Show only: North America" filter being set? (example) I suppose these studios are using a proxy in the U.S. Not cool...

Must be confusing indeed to have some sweet girls between all the bitches.

 

[LilyMarie]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

I was hoping Lily would chime in! If anyone wants to know why a model would use a VPN, they need to visit Lily's room and see the types of models that many members would be missing out on by using the too restrictive filter. Her room fits in well with the "typical vibe" that the guys are looking for when they filter out all but North American or UK models. It wouldn't be fair for models like her to have to suffer low room counts due to being filtered when many of the guys who filtered out European models would love her room if they visited!

How sweet of you, Roxie *__* I really appreciate that you feel this way about my room.

Also I'm on my phone at the moment and clicked thanks under dustin's post by accident! Just to clear that up

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

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I don't use the filters, partly because they do seem ineffective and partly just because I'm curious to see who's on the list anyway. That said, I seldom visit an Eastern European model's room. I have mixed feelings about this because, no doubt, I'm skipping some good models unfairly, but I have the impression that many of these models are being exploited by studios. I just don't want to subsidize that when there are plenty of models I like who will get the full .05 per token. This is unlikely to happen, but it would great if there was a filter to skip studios.

 

[ComicOzzie]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

I never use the filters because it would prevent me from meeting some potentially awesome ladies.

 

[Always_Tim]

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I do have Europe filtered out. I honestly don't have the time or energy to go through the listings and find the gems who aren't generic studio girls. I know I'm missing out on meeting a lot of great people because of that, but that's the situation. I'd love to be able to turn on parts of Europe, if the filters were more fine-grained, or even all of Europe if there were a separate filter to block studio accounts.

 

[OverFlower]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

I have also seen members asking questions because models were *not* listed as euro/russian.
From the information I could gather from one model, a lot of those girls do not use VPN to work their way around MFC filters. I suppose it depends on the software they use, but this particular model appeared to be broadcasting from a random continent every time, so it was not really a marketing strategy.
They use it as a protection in those countries where camming is formally illegal, mostly. Whether and how this protection is actually effective, I have no idea.

 

[Jupiter551]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

It's only that LilyMarie is a needle in a haystack.

Some of the most amazing women I've met on MFC were Romanian/Russian/Ukranian. Many of them speak impeccable English - you're just missing out if you want to rely on ignorant stereotypes.

 

[Just Me]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

My theory on why some people filter out all but their own area, is they are too lazy to travel overseas if they meet "the one". :lol:

 

[Nordling]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

My theory on why some people filter out all but their own area, is they are too lazy to travel overseas if they meet "the one". :lol:

Some yes, but for most I think it's a touch of xenophobia.

 

[RedHerby]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

It's only that LilyMarie is a needle in a haystack.

Some of the most amazing women I've met on MFC were Romanian/Russian/Ukranian. Many of them speak impeccable English - you're just missing out if you want to rely on ignorant stereotypes.

exactly my point, ok I did say it in much harder words, but the OP was asking for that.

 

[Deleted member 9520]

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My theory on why some people filter out all but their own area, is they are too lazy to travel overseas if they meet "the one". :lol:

Some yes, but for most I think it's a touch of xenophobia.

Being an Aussie the number of girls on MFC based here is a mere fraction of that of the other filters - 90% of my audience are fellow Aussies who openly admit LOVING seeing Australian girls on there as we are few and far between compared to most other regions, we tend to fade into the homepage scatter :lol:

More to the point - a lot of members that visit my room prefer to watch mostly Aussie girls, or at least follow us more consistently than overseas girls (not all, but in my experience they do) I wouldn't say out of 'xenophobia' though :twocents-02cents:

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

My theory on why some people filter out all but their own area, is they are too lazy to travel overseas if they meet "the one". :lol:

Some yes, but for most I think it's a touch of xenophobia.

Being an Aussie the number of girls on MFC based here is a mere fraction of that of the other filters - 90% of my audience are fellow Aussies who openly admit LOVING seeing Australian girls on there as we are few and far between compared to most other regions, we tend to fade into the homepage scatter :lol:

More to the point - a lot of members that visit my room prefer to watch mostly Aussie girls, or at least follow us more consistently than overseas girls (not all, but in my experience they do) I wouldn't say out of 'xenophobia' though :twocents-02cents:

Hmm, I'm not sure why native English-speaking guys would want to filter out Australia. As far as I know, none of the usual reasons for filtering exist: possible language issues, studio-related behavior issues, etc. Personally, I find the accent charming (or if you prefer, people with my accent find your lack of accent charming ). I doubt very many are thinking about long-distance travel if they find "the one" -- if they're silly enough to think they'll find true love on a cam site, a long flight isn't going to stop them. I would guess the reason for the composition of your members is a combination of, as you say, Aussies specifically looking for Aussie models and the time difference between Australia and North America, the U.K., etc.

 

[Jupiter551]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

More to the point - a lot of members that visit my room prefer to watch mostly Aussie girls, or at least follow us more consistently than overseas girls (not all, but in my experience they do) I wouldn't say out of 'xenophobia' though :twocents-02cents:

Well if you say so, though I still can't get my head around it. I watch regularly girls from the US, UK, Australia, Romania, Russian Federation, Germany, Colombia, Canada, Spain, Ukraine, Czech Rep., Hungary and even one from Latvia occasionally. There is 0 qualitative difference in the conversation or experience from one country to another.

I stop in a room (and return) for the woman in front of the cam - where she's from is pretty much beside the point.

 

[GingerOwnsChris]

Re: European models go through the "North America" region fi

I prefer to stay away from East European rooms for reasons other than the language barrier, hustling practices or conversation topics. I have been exposed to across-the-pond culture in person, and I know that the idea of sexual work is much more alien and stigmatic to East European women than it is to American girls.

American girls often cam (at least in part) for the excitement, attention and sexual adventure. And I love it. At the same time, I know that for most East European girls, it is a burdensome and shameful job, even if they got used to it. And I hate the idea of being another fat ass American pervert who tramples on their soul.

That said, I talk to a handful of East European models whom I have gotten to know enough to separate them from the majority.

 

[ComicOzzie]

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At the same time, I know that for most East European girls, it is a burdensome and shameful job, even if they got used to it. And I hate the idea of being another fat ass American pervert who tramples on their soul.

That said, I talk to a handful of East European models whom I have gotten to know enough to separate them from the majority.

I have gotten to know literally dozens of Eastern European models and have yet to run across one that thinks she has a "burdensome and shameful" job. I guess we aren't visiting the same rooms. :twocents-02cents: