Just want to give everyone a heads up about a guy who is trying to get models to do stuff for free. I was in a girls room earlier and there was probably only about me and 5 other premiums in the room but then around 15 others appeared all together so i asked in the public chat where everyone had come from. A guy with the username of Bmike80 replied and said he had pm'd people to come in the room which I thought was odd, especially as the model wasn't doing anything. I asked him in pm what was going on because other guys were starting to ask her to 'show ass' and stuff like that without tipping. He replied that he was pm'ing her talking dirty and trying to get her horny before taking her private, but he also was requesting her to do stuff, so i told him to tip for it. He replied that he has never tipped in public chat on MFC. The girl incidently was a new model having only her second day on the site. Its obvious that this guy goes round with his cronies pm'ing making out he's going to take the model private but has no intention of doing so and just trying to get her to show and do stuff for free. Maybe he only does this to new models because he thinks they will be naive??? Anyway just thought i'd let girls on here know so they can be aware of him and spread the word because it makes my blood boil. :angry4: Username Bmike80
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She needs to learn her lesson somehow dude.
There are millions of men like this, posting his name is pointless.
There are millions of men like this, posting his name is pointless.
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Someone got me like that when I first started. I won't fall for it a second time. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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Redone said:
At first I thought you were talking about that bmikofella guy (or whatever his name is), even though he's never done those things (as far as I know). But it sounds like you're referring to someone else.
Yeah, the model will have to figure out how to work MFC, and maybe eventually she'll realize that setting pm's to friends list only is highly recommended.
Thanks for the heads up, but what you described is really minor compared to other behaviors on MFC. Worse things happen on the site, like basics telling the whole room what the model's REAL NAME is and personal shit like that.
bawksy said:
You know its people like you who give guys a bad name or do you think its acceptable behaviour to go around in groups trying to pressure a new model into doing stuff for free. If it was just one guy it wouldn't have bothered me cuz that happens all the time on MFC, but this was a premium member(so no need to beg) pm'ing other premium members to go around in a group to then pm the model trying to get her to do stuff for nothing doing her out of tokens. If you think thats fine then your the only sad guy here mate.
Redone said:
Dude, this is like the least obscene things guys on MFC do. :roll:
Everyone here is aware of it, so your point is moot.
Redone said:
Okay, I'll humor you with a response to this.
Yes, absolutely. That's like half the fun of being on MFC. Explain to me, what harm exactly does the model suffer when she gets "tricked" into getting naked for free? If anything, it's to her own benefit, because we all know that free shows attract viewers, and *NEW* models need to do everything they can to attract attention. Hopefully some of this attention will then turn into regular tippers.
What I don't think is acceptable is that you think that a model, who is a grown woman, needs a pathetic basement dweller like you to stand up for her.
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Read your own post and see the words "tricked" and free. At the end of the day the models are there to have fun and make tokens and I refer you to the "This All Premiums Should Read" thread for how models want premiums to behave. And let me get this straight it wasn't one guy or basics it was a bunch of premiums all coming in together with a guy as ringleader trying to get a NEW model to do stuff.
Redone said:
Okay... you are keen to help the model... we get that, but you really have to understand that on any given day there are many hundreds of guys like that on the site. Singling one out and naming/shaming, may seem like the admirable thing to do, but is going a step too far. :naughty:
Each model has to learn (and learn quickly) that not all guys who come through the door are going to reward her for the entertainment she will provide for her patrons. She will need to devise her own set of tools to deal with people like freeloaders/haters/racists/general fucktards and other objects from the shallow end of the gene pool who will drop by from time to time.... and many of whom will be (shock, horror!) premium members. Its a fact of life here... just be aware of that. This will be a learning experience for her... harsh maybe, but true.
It is HER room... not a members room... its HER room always remember that. She, as an adult who is in charge, has to set the rules, know how to apply them and at the same time be able to grow a thick enough skin to be tough when need be. It may sound cruel, but the stats show that of new models starting this business, probably around 50% will fold and give in within 6 months. Those that leave are the ones that did not learn fast enough, grow that thick skin or adapt to survive as a camgirl.
Many members have thought as you do though (well for maybe 10 mins at least.. lol!) when they were all shiny new polished noobs
so don't take the criticism too hard... just be prepared to ratchet down the white knight enthusiasm a good few notches. Once you have been on mfc a while and the shine wears off you will see what we mean.Seriously though... in the great scheme of things bud, bad as it may have looked to you at the time... this was small potatoes... very small potatoes. :roll: :roll: :roll:
I'm giving you all scolding looks and shaking my finger! Don't be mean! :lol: Even if it was a little funny...
Thank you for standing up and just saying, "Hey, I think this is wrong!" Because it does stink when you're new and going through the ropes. I think getting trolled, tricked, and learning from it is part of being a camgirl (as sad as that is). I think every single one of us bungled on something at one point or another. The best thing you can do is maybe point that model toward this forum? We have a Model's Only section that is chalk full of information (like experiences on trolling, webcam technical advice, and emotional support) and the models are generally more open to help once a model has been verified and contributes to conversations.
Because this is such rampant behavior we're all kind of used to it as a part of our normal activity (and yes, it sucks, but the only way to deal with it is to learn and move on). She will get more people doing the same thing, and posting their user name doesn't do much. He can always switch accounts and, really, there are more new and impressionable models out there than any of us have time to rally for. This is something she'll get to laugh about some months down the line!
Thank you for standing up and just saying, "Hey, I think this is wrong!" Because it does stink when you're new and going through the ropes. I think getting trolled, tricked, and learning from it is part of being a camgirl (as sad as that is). I think every single one of us bungled on something at one point or another. The best thing you can do is maybe point that model toward this forum? We have a Model's Only section that is chalk full of information (like experiences on trolling, webcam technical advice, and emotional support) and the models are generally more open to help once a model has been verified and contributes to conversations.
Because this is such rampant behavior we're all kind of used to it as a part of our normal activity (and yes, it sucks, but the only way to deal with it is to learn and move on). She will get more people doing the same thing, and posting their user name doesn't do much. He can always switch accounts and, really, there are more new and impressionable models out there than any of us have time to rally for. This is something she'll get to laugh about some months down the line!
Think I will start doing it myself then and never tip, cant believe there are some models on here thats stuck up for that guy and bawksy after all its your job and its you girls he's doing out of tokens and cash. Just thought some on here would appreciate the heads up if that guy came into your room but my mistake.
Redone said:
Not one of these ladies said what he is doing is right what we did say was duh :roll:
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Redone said:
Red, you were trying to do something nice. And thank you for that. I'm sorry people were nasty to you.
The reason they were nasty is because if everytime something like this happened there would be 500000000 pages on it. The models on here are mostly seasoned. We're used to this kinda crap. Actually I've been fucked over by much much worse than this.
The models stuck up for bawsky because they're some badass girls that would never fall for the trick you described. They don't have to worry.
A model on mfc would have to be very very naive to fall for this one...
However, THANK YOU for trying to do something nice. There is just so so so so so much of this on mfc that its nothing new.
Guys that go around trying to out girls real names and phone numbers, or send viruses to people... those are worth outing.
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Redone said:
Aw, thank you for the thought, that's so sweet.
The problem with letting us know about it, is that we already know how to deal with a guy like this! And the new girls don't get here fast enough to see the shittery that goes on. But, this thread has given me an idea of a new thread...
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