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so i live in dubai and in dubai we don't pay income tax or self-employment tax and i wanna be a webcam model so do i have to pay taxes? or not? and if yes then how?
 
sarah said:
so i live in dubai and in dubai we don't pay income tax or self-employment tax and i wanna be a webcam model so do i have to pay taxes? or not? and if yes then how?

If you have no income tax there then you should have nothing to worry about. :thumbleft:
 
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Alabastra said:
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Sevrin said:
What citizenship do you have?
umm awkward. i don't even know what this means
Are you born in Dubai? Or where is your passport issued?
yeah i was born in dubai
If your parents are also born in Dubai I would be rather certain that you have a citizenship from there.

And I might be paranoid here, but how are the laws regarding promiscuity there? As far as I know porn is illegal in UAE, and I would think that camming could get you in a lot of trouble if you are unlucky.
 
Alabastra said:
sarah said:
Alabastra said:
sarah said:
Sevrin said:
What citizenship do you have?
umm awkward. i don't even know what this means
Are you born in Dubai? Or where is your passport issued?
yeah i was born in dubai
If your parents are also born in Dubai I would be rather certain that you have a citizenship from there.

And I might be paranoid here, but how are the laws regarding promiscuity there? As far as I know porn is illegal in UAE, and I would think that camming could get you in a lot of trouble if you are unlucky.
right its illegal but i know a girl who is a camgirl and no one found out about her i mean how are they gonna know that i'm a camgirl if i don't have to pay taxes or something like that? dumb question i know.
 
sarah said:
right its illegal but i know a girl who is a camgirl and no one found out about her i mean how are they gonna know that i'm a camgirl if i don't have to pay taxes or something like that? dumb question i know.
https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... =15&t=5764 is a good start.

If you show your face, and MFC has this as a requirement I think, will the odds for that someone will one day recognize you be fairly high. Sam goes for if you talk about anything in your life. You will also have to get paid, and if you get transferred money from something someone spots as a "immoral company" I can see ways that could go bad.

Any chance that you could talk to her and ask about how she is doing it? I am actually curious myself about how camgirls from areas like yours work.
 
Dubai really :eek: well the good news is I doubt you'll be stoned to death like other countries in the region..

Still before you do this you want to think really really seriously about this, more than anything you've ever done in your life. How you pay taxes should be about #5 on your concerns.

The first thing you'll want do is become a verified model here. This probably requires sign up for a camsite, maybe Amber could make an exception.
The second thing you'll want to do is talk to camgirls who have cammed from countries where it is illegal, I sure you can find some in the model only section of the forum..
Before you ever show your face on cam, you have a ton of things to consider and nail down.
 
sarah said:
right its illegal but i know a girl who is a camgirl and no one found out about her yet i mean how are they gonna know that i'm a camgirl if i don't have to pay taxes or something like that? dumb question i know.
Fixed that for you. Alabastra brings up really, really good points. Once it's on the internet, it's out there forever and can potentially be found by people that recognize you. There have been successful camgirls ARRESTED for camming in countries that don't allow it. Really doesn't seem worth the risk to cam in a country that doesn't allow it.

If you're successful at camming, you'll be bringing in a fair amount of money and have no explanation for its origin. Somebody, at some point, will start asking questions.

If you're not successful at camming, it seems like a bad idea to risk jail time for something that doesn't really pan out that well anyway. (The majority of girls who try camming quit within a few months- it's not as easy or consistently lucrative as many might think.)
 
CharlotteLace said:
If you're not successful at camming, it seems like a bad idea to risk jail time

Or worse depending on the laws used in Dubai. It mostly depends in Islamic theocracies on if it is Sunni or Shia laws. Shia laws tend to be much stricter on these sorts of things. Camming from any Islamic country is a huge risk because most of them make no distinction between the religion and the law of the land. If the law of the religion says death for prostitution, then the law of the land often follows suit, because those countries see no difference between camming and prostitution. It's most likely far too risky to be camming from a Middle Eastern theocracy to make it truly worth it.
 
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Dubai isn't Riyadh. UAE is the most permissive of the officially Muslim countries, and compares well to the U.S. with regard to human rights. Shariah law is not the factor there it is in some other countries, being mostly used in family law. You'd want to be prudent in public, but in private you can pretty much live your life as you please.
 
You might very well be correct in that the legal issues is likely to be minimal, but there is a long way before camming is possible to consider trouble free in any culture.

Even in US there is situations where camming is a issue in both getting, and keeping a job. A lot of families will shun people that is involved in the sex industry, and it is not uncommon to be assumed to be selling sex if you sell the illusion of availability. I might be cynical, but considering how those issues can affect someone in far more liberal areas, I do get concerned when I see someone assuming that they will never be recognized, and that the only concern is taxes.

This is not strictly a worry I only have for people in Arabic countries tho. I'd recommend anyone that considers this type of job to sit down, read, everything, learn as much as possible about staying safe, and think about if it is worth the risk, and repeat this process at least one more time if they are in a country where the laws and/or culture is strongly religious. It can be worth it, but it is, unfortunately, not something to take lightly.
 
Alabastra said:
You might very well be correct in that the legal issues is likely to be minimal, but there is a long way before camming is possible to consider trouble free in any culture.

Even in US there is situations where camming is a issue in both getting, and keeping a job. A lot of families will shun people that is involved in the sex industry, and it is not uncommon to be assumed to be selling sex if you sell the illusion of availability. I might be cynical, but considering how those issues can affect someone in far more liberal areas, I do get concerned when I see someone assuming that they will never be recognized, and that the only concern is taxes.

This is not strictly a worry I only have for people in Arabic countries tho. I'd recommend anyone that considers this type of job to sit down, read, everything, learn as much as possible about staying safe, and think about if it is worth the risk, and repeat this process at least one more time if they are in a country where the laws and/or culture is strongly religious. It can be worth it, but it is, unfortunately, not something to take lightly.

Very true. I heard one MFC model had an issue, not sure if it is true or not but if it is it is fucked up beyond belief, where someone from her hometown discovered she was a cam model, found a video of her doing a public show and then sent that video to her then 12 year old brother. If true, that is beyond fucked up on so many levels.

So, even in countries where it's perfectly legal to be a cam model, there's always the possibility of people being hateful, vindictive etc. towards the cam model just for being a cam model. If one isn't willing or able to deal with the potential ramifications, one should definitely not get into camming.
 
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sarah11 said:
i really need a job i mean what if i don't show my face? so no one is gonna know me
On Myfreecams, you're not allowed to hide your face permanently. I'm pretty sure it's like that on all the big camsites. Not to mention that I can't imagine you'll make a lot of money while hiding your face.
 
LilyMarie said:
sarah11 said:
i really need a job i mean what if i don't show my face? so no one is gonna know me
On Myfreecams, you're not allowed to hide your face permanently. I'm pretty sure it's like that on all the big camsites. Not to mention that I can't imagine you'll make a lot of money while hiding your face.
at least i will be making money.
 
If you don't say anything, and only do closeup shows, where people mostly just see your genitalia, and breasts, the odds for someone recognizing you will be low. The income will also be low.

Still, how do you hide your income? How do you get paid? It takes one person noticing that something is up, and deciding to tell your family and people around you for it to start to spiral. After that point, you can't stop it, but it will have to run it's course.

I do understand the temptation, and it is possible that it would work out fine, but since it is the money that is the motivator for you, and not the job itself, I am hoping that you find a safer way.

What about selling stuff on ebay? Offering stuff on fiverr? Etsy? Guru? Online translating? Proofreading? Find a old lady next door that needs help with chores?
 
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sarah11 said:
i really need a job i mean what if i don't show my face? so no one is gonna know me
On Myfreecams, you're not allowed to hide your face permanently. I'm pretty sure it's like that on all the big camsites. Not to mention that I can't imagine you'll make a lot of money while hiding your face.
at least i will be making money.
Probably not. Like I already said, you can't just not show your face and expect to make money camming, and it's probably forbidden on most sites, not only on MFC.

You say you "really need a job". I'm not sure why you don't try to find something that doesn't cause as many problems for you as camming does.
 
I just want to reiterate what a ridiculously bad idea this is. The cost-benefit ratio is absurdly unbalanced. There's a handful of girls I've seen do faceless camming on Streamate (and all the ones I've seen emphasize their sexy voice), but keep in mind every legitimate camsite needs a copy of your legal ID. Would they even accept you knowing your country's laws? And what if you slip up? Say somebody's recording you and you accidentally show your face? What if somebody recognizes your room? Or your voice? If you live with your parents, what if they knock on the door and call out your real name?

Camming without showing your face is ridiculously hard to be successful with, though it can be done. Is it likely you'll make more than minimum wage while doing a job that's highly illegal in your country? I really, really doubt it. How will you explain to your parents you don't need a normal job? What excuse do you have for what little money comes in? How do you explain where your checks come from? Or why you're suddenly getting payments on Payoneer? What if there's a nosy teller at the bank who reports your questionable deposits?

I've never been one to tell a girl to not cam (once they know the risks), but this is monumentally a poor decision if you follow through with it. There's a million ways for this to go south in a hurry. Please please please take care of yourself and think this through thoroughly. :(
 
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