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CallMeMaria

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If a member is caught screenshotting in your room or during a private or a Skype show, how do you react and respond?

I have had it where people blatantly have asked for ‘ a flash long enough for a screenshot’

For him, it was an instant telling off, followed by a kick out of the room and a lifetime ban.

What do you girls do - Did I overreact?
 
I don’t think you overreacted. Even if it’s common knowledge that everything we broadcast is getting recorded and screenshotted, that doesn’t mean that we should encourage that or whatever.

I would’ve done the same thing!

If he wanted a picture of you he could’ve bought a photo set from wherever you sell them (if you sell photos). And if he wants to see you naked longer than a flash, he can take you private!
Cam sites are no place for cheapskates, if he wants free porn he can find it somewhere else. Interactive porn isn’t cheap.
 
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I think you over-reacted a bit. A simple "no, please don't" would be enough.

He could want just a personal souvenir. If he tipped and, more, if he tells or ask you, it's ok imo.
You only kicked a not too dishonest tipper, and you won't be able to avoid the others hundreds.
 
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I think you over-reacted a bit. A simple "no, please don't" would be enough.

He could want just a personal souvenir. If he tipped and, more, if he tells or ask you, it's ok imo.
You only kicked a not too dishonest tipper, and you won't be able to avoid the others hundreds.
Are you a model, or a member?
 
I think you over-reacted a bit. A simple "no, please don't" would be enough.

He could want just a personal souvenir. If he tipped and, more, if he tells or ask you, it's ok imo.
You only kicked a not too dishonest tipper, and you won't be able to avoid the others hundreds.


If he was a big tipper - I would have probably taken a bit more time to educate him about the cam model etiquette and maybe even kept him around if he sounded like he genuinely didn’t realize screenshotting is not something you should openly talk about and that it’s quite frowned upon by the models.


His exact words were “I only have 9 tokens, is that enough for a flash long enough so I can take a screenshot?”

Prior to this he had spent the whole of 12tokens.

I think I might cope without him.....just.
 
If he was a big tipper - I would have probably taken a bit more time to educate him about the cam model etiquette and maybe even kept him around if he sounded like he genuinely didn’t realize screenshotting is not something you should openly talk about and that it’s quite frowned upon by the models.


His exact words were “I only have 9 tokens, is that enough for a flash long enough so I can take a screenshot?”

Prior to this he had spent the whole of 12tokens.

I think I might cope without him.....just.

Well first members only care about the site's rules because frankly if members listened to every separate models concept of etiquette, sites would have to offer free therapy. Best to speak for yourself and what YOUR rules are with members and tell them when they are out of line with YOUR rules, because there are also models that simple don't care enough or do feel one more pic of them naked doesn't warrant losing business with a member thats actually paying something.

Now him verbalizing being cheap and wanting 'souvenirs' probably won't build him any roads with models but that's on him, that said he's a converted member and probably shouldn't be weighed the same as a freeloader.
 
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If someone said they were taking screenshots or recording the sexy parts of my public show for their own personal “enjoyment” I’d ban without hesitation. Yeah, it’s going to happen, but blatantly saying it is incredibly rude and rude members shouldn’t be tolerated.

The only screenshots I was ever okay with was my regulars screenshotting funny faces I would make or funny stuff I was doing to show me later.
 
Perhaps I'm wrong. But, I don't think sites show screenshots such as Snapchat does. So, in this case he's upfront and asks for his intention as compared to the countless who do without saying. I'm not a model, but based off the average price of a flash it's way to low and a polite "I'll have to decline as my going rate for flashes are XX tokens".

As to perma-ban, perhaps that's a bit much? Maybe a few hour ban, or simple kick from the room, might be enough and he learns and comes back?

I dunno, I can see it from many different angles and do understand not wanting to put up with something such as this. But, I can also think of much worse that's more worthy of a ban. But, this is just my view. Right or wrong.
 
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Perhaps I'm wrong. But, I don't think sites show screenshots such as Snapchat does. So, in this case he's upfront and asks for his intention as compared to the countless who do without saying. I'm not a model, but based off the average price of a flash it's way to low and a polite "I'll have to decline as my going rate for flashes are XX tokens".

As to perma-ban, perhaps that's a bit much? Maybe a few hour ban, or simple kick from the room, might be enough and he learns and comes back?

I dunno, I can see it from many different angles and do understand not wanting to put up with something such as this. But, I can also think of much worse that's more worthy of a ban. But, this is just my view. Right or wrong.
But this is like saying that if a man goes to a store and says “I want this for free” or “I only have 10 cents, is that enough for this [very obviously more expensive] item?” that he’s not doing anything wrong, because stores expect some shoplifting to happen.
 
But this is like saying that if a man goes to a store and says “I want this for free” or “I only have 10 cents, is that enough for this [very obviously more expensive] item?” that he’s not doing anything wrong, because stores expect some shoplifting to happen.

I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion you did in relation to shoplifting.

There is no direct comparison. In both cases, the person doesn't have enough money for said item. Therefore, they don't get anything unless the salesperson (or model) takes pity and gives it for free or that amount.

In the case of the store, a person is free to wander and look or "window shopping". But, not take as that is shoplifting.

In the case of a public room such as MFC, or CB, anyone is free to view or record because it is publicly available. This is no different than watching a street performer and taking pics or short videos. Or, finding something someone posted on the web.
That is not "shoplifting" because the performer knows it is in the open. When it becomes like shoplifting, is when they steal private vids or such.

Does this mean I condone it? No, as I tend to tip when I stay for a bit and enjoy what I see.

As to knowing shoplifting occurs, it is an unfortunate part of owning a store. Just as it is being a cam model and knowing people may record or take screenshots of a public performance. Which,is why there are a number of models whodo not do anything more than a tease in public and reserve more for group, privates or exclusive.
 
As to knowing shoplifting occurs, it is an unfortunate part of owning a store. Just as it is being a cam model and knowing people may record or take screenshots of a public performance.

....this is what I just said. That was the point of the store metaphor.

I would see the cam-equivalent of window shopping to be sitting back and watching a show without tipping. Screenshots is a hell of a lot more than window shopping.

Just because we know it’s going to happen doesn’t make it okay.

He’s not being a considerate cheapskate/theif, he’s being a stupid one.

I hope that more models chime in on this with their opinions, because this is ask a Model, and op specifically asked other ladies.
 
No relation with a shop here, but I fully agree with the fact that begging like that is rude and has to be silent/kicked/banned, whatever, to not encourage others to try and also...

Asked like this, I agree fully the reaction.

But getting mad for a screenshot would be overreacting. You don't sell "goods" here. You're doing full shows, seen 90% for free, tipped by viewers who mainly tip to help your show to live and hence have fun in your room. This makes the BIG difference with porn and with a shop. A screenshot will never steal your show. Asking free stuff, haggle prices, all that talking around in contrary can kill your show by changing your mood and your tipper's mood.

Tippers are generous and won't support to see beggars asking.... that's the main reason to kick beggars, the second one is to not encourage begging (same for rude ...). And never because they try to 'steal your free content'. Be sure that many keep souvenirs of the real show, especially regulars and nice tippers as said @Marceline , they would just not understand and you don't have time in your show to explain.

Tippers don't like as well greedy models, just avoid to get mad for "one screenshot" as all know well that you can't stop it. Whatever you think about it, kick silently and fast if you prefer kicking than proposing a higher price. Acts, goals, lovense; etc make only a common language to play with your tippers and an easy basis to ask tips.

Protect your contents (the pics and video you're selling), protect your show by removing pirate copy from sites, OK. But in your show, protect the show and your tippers' mood because they are your real 'goods'.
 
Perhaps I'm wrong. But, I don't think sites show screenshots such as Snapchat does. So, in this case he's upfront and asks for his intention as compared to the countless who do without saying. I'm not a model, but based off the average price of a flash it's way to low and a polite "I'll have to decline as my going rate for flashes are XX tokens".

As to perma-ban, perhaps that's a bit much? Maybe a few hour ban, or simple kick from the room, might be enough and he learns and comes back?

I dunno, I can see it from many different angles and do understand not wanting to put up with something such as this. But, I can also think of much worse that's more worthy of a ban. But, this is just my view. Right or wrong.
I agree. I wouldn’t flash for 9 tokens screen shot or not. I would have just said no, quoting him a price I think is fair for that and moved on. Maybe explain as briefly as possible that you don’t appreciate screenshots.
That’s just me though. Now if he told me he HAS been recording or screenshotting me I would ban but not for asking if he could tip for it
 
I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion you did in relation to shoplifting.

There is no direct comparison. In both cases, the person doesn't have enough money for said item. Therefore, they don't get anything unless the salesperson (or model) takes pity and gives it for free or that amount.

In the case of the store, a person is free to wander and look or "window shopping". But, not take as that is shoplifting.

In the case of a public room such as MFC, or CB, anyone is free to view or record because it is publicly available. This is no different than watching a street performer and taking pics or short videos. Or, finding something someone posted on the web.
That is not "shoplifting" because the performer knows it is in the open. When it becomes like shoplifting, is when they steal private vids or such.

Does this mean I condone it? No, as I tend to tip when I stay for a bit and enjoy what I see.

As to knowing shoplifting occurs, it is an unfortunate part of owning a store. Just as it is being a cam model and knowing people may record or take screenshots of a public performance. Which,is why there are a number of models whodo not do anything more than a tease in public and reserve more for group, privates or exclusive.
I need to disagree with this though. You are not free to record. MFC and chaturbate are privately owned spaces and the feeds are protected by copyright.
 
I need to disagree with this though. You are not free to record. MFC and chaturbate are privately owned spaces and the feeds are protected by copyright.

To be clear, I said I don't condone recording or screenshots.

What I did say was that being a model on CB or MFC is similar to being a street performer who does things for the nearby general public to see.

It would also be similar to TV shows. How many record shows to watch later? Is anyone going to pay the producers or copyright holders each time they do? No.

It is also legal in the US to record TV shows for personal use. The caveat is that you cannot distribute it, and especially not sell it. Therefore, I see if some records or screenshots a publicly viewable show and keeps it for personal use to watch later falls under the same ruling.

That being said, I am of the mindset that if I enjoy the show a model puts on enough to watch it, then I should show support by tipping her for it. Hower, like a street performer, it is not mandatory. It would be mandatory for club, group and private shows which is a different discussion entirely.
 
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I would have laughed at him and said "absolutely not, but that's adorable."

I know users are recording and taking screenshots. I have come to terms with this. I just prefer you guys not mention it to me, because I have literally no response to "mmm I can't wait to jack off to your tit shots later bb." Like, can you not?

It has only been very recently that members are actually telling me about their screenshots and asking for a flash long enough to get a good one. I am flattered that you want to save some for later but for the love of satan, if you have a particular request you should probably contact me for some custom content and be willing to pay for it. Otherwise, yes, I am going to ban you. I don't need that nonsense.

The real crime here is the insulting lowball offer.
 
On MFC, members get recordings of their privates and can watch them when ever they want.
Some models have used those recordings for their own purposes. And others give away recordings of their shows.
 
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On MFC, members get recordings of their privates and can watch them when ever they want.
Some models have used those recordings for their own purposes. And others give away recordings of their shows.

That's really quite different from a 9-token flash though, isn't it?
 
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In the original post, the question was while in a private.
So I would hope there would be at least 500 - 900 tokens involved with a private.

But I could be totally wrong.

Oh jeeze you're right! I am not sure why a member would feel the need to screenshot during a private...?

If I was doing skype shows I'd be charging more per minute than privates on MFC. I can only assume they'd be recording but I would still prefer they not say so. Maybe I am weird about that.
 
I would of said no and banned him. That's just me.


Don't worry about over reacting, if someone makes you feel uncomfortable at anytime, they don't have to be in your room. Even if the incident feels minimal. I'd not worry about it, and move on.
 
Sorry for the DP but I have more thoughts.

But getting mad for a screenshot would be overreacting. You don't sell "goods" here. You're doing full shows, seen 90% for free, tipped by viewers who mainly tip to help your show to live and hence have fun in your room. This makes the BIG difference with porn and with a shop. A screenshot will never steal your show. Asking free stuff, haggle prices, all that talking around in contrary can kill your show by changing your mood and your tipper's mood.

Let me tell you why it's wrong to tell a model she is overreacting for banning a member who made her feel uncomfortable. It's not always about the money, and sometimes you have to put your sense of self first. And I believe that is was OP did. She probably cannot trust that he isn't going to be screenshotting, or he could already be doing it. Also fuck that twat for haggling too. He was asking if he could screenshot for 50 cents. That's insulting.

The member asking for a screenshot could of also be killing her mood, which can kill the room mood as well. So banning him was the appropriate choice.

Please don't tell another cammodel she is overreacting after she bans a member. If you do it again, I will virtually smack you and put you in a corner ;)
 
Sorry for the DP but I have more thoughts.



Let me tell you why it's wrong to tell a model she is overreacting for banning a member who made her feel uncomfortable. It's not always about the money, and sometimes you have to put your sense of self first. And I believe that is was OP did. She probably cannot trust that he isn't going to be screenshotting, or he could already be doing it. Also fuck that twat for haggling too. He was asking if he could screenshot for 50 cents. That's insulting.

The member asking for a screenshot could of also be killing her mood, which can kill the room mood as well. So banning him was the appropriate choice.

Please don't tell another cammodel she is overreacting after she bans a member. If you do it again, I will virtually smack you and put you in a corner ;)

@DoD404

I’m seconding all of this and also tagging you so that you have to read it twice.

This is a job. We are working. We are not doing it for free, and if a member gets offended at being told a price then they are obviously not a well paying customer.

And I just want to emphasize again that this is the Ask-a-Model! section.
 
Thanks people - great input. I appreciate the comments both ways. Of course I am aware that once on the internet, always on the internet.... and people are screenshotting and recording all the time. No bother - but just don’t come and tell me you are doing it, especially you are not a well paying customer.


This particular incident happened in public chat, with a guest who had only ever spent 12 tokens with me.

So we conclude - he deserved to be kicked and we can just hope that he learned not to talk so openly about his screenshotting habit in other rooms. Or even better, maybe do a little less of it in the future....
 
MORE THOUGHTS! Sorry I'm on this new medication that is making my brain thinking broken :DDDD

Tippers don't like as well greedy models, just avoid to get mad for "one screenshot" as all know well that you can't stop it. Whatever you think about it, kick silently and fast if you prefer kicking than proposing a higher price. Acts, goals, lovense; etc make only a common language to play with your tippers and an easy basis to ask tips.

This is our job. They can be "greedy" all they want.

Don't tell a cammodel she is being greedy trying to earn a living again too. People don't regularly cam because it's fun and they are horny. No. They do it to earn a money, and we shouldn't have to step on eggshells to create this illusion that we aren't. Sure there is a small SMALL percentage that do, but most of us are there for the money.

So if someone kicks a member after addressing to the room why they think it's rude to try to haggle for screenshots, then oh well. I do it all the time. Because I want my members who view me on the regular to know how I expect them to behave. So silence kicks are not always the best route. I rarely have to moderate my room because of this and I rarely get someone acting up for me being a top model. If anything it might make someone uncomfortable to my reaction to someone's bad behavior, but I shouldn't have to hide my emotions incase it does.
 
I've been banged so well on this thread, thanks :)
maybe I didn't use the good words... But I feel, being tagged so much, that I have to add some words... taking care of the corner). so)
(dod, don't answer too fast.. dod, don't answer too fast., dod...)

All turns first around 'overreacting'. I never said that 'ban is overreacting'.
I only tried to make her feel that she'll have more occasions to get shocked, and also minimize the importance of the 'pic' thing (this I shouldn't maybe ? but read more...) Overreacting (getting mad in room, as I figured the scene) to each would just not be bearable. You can (and *have to* imo) get ride of anybody who make you uncomfy of course, even if you just don't like his pseudo :) (I banned an op named 'fck_my_son' ^^ he seemed to be nice else, but no thanks.)

As model, I tried. Really. For months. But it could not help so much to survive months between 2 jobs.
At first a big handicap (sex and age ^^) and not enough talent to balance, made the thing not financially interesting and more obvious, if necessary, the fact that it's a profession. And on this point : I hardly think that you don't have to remember this to any member frequenting this forum
do it in your room, ok, that may teach things to users attracted by adverts from porn site, but not here.

But I tried far enough the job to be able to help answering to some friends' models questions, technical or else, and share feelings with them in rooms.

I think that I feel well something that many model forget quickly and I wanted to express it here. You do not sell *goods* in a room. You don't have to consider that you're commerce is a grocery. You're selling time, room mood is your product. Not boobs, asses, pussies separated in pieces and sold by kg or secs, gosh !
Many users (the ones to ban as well) forget it too (attracted by adverts from porn sites...) and try to act like on an open market haggling prices to buy porn. But you do not sell porn! Don't listen to them, boobs are not your product, focus on your work and ignore the rest as far you can.
That's what I tried to express, sorry if my words were not sharp enough.

@ameliababyxo , comparison with a shop is weird and completely underrating your work.
Consider rather your room as a club/bar/lounge, ambiance coffee or else. See well that a whiskey or a coffee ordered does accompanies the time passed there (and justifies plainly the price toward a grocery's coffee), then you'll relativise the 'screenshot point'. Seen any bartender getting mad seeing a coffee spoon disappearing (center of my 1st answer) ? A boob pic nowadays is free everywhere on net, a boobs flash in a cool room chilling with a nice person has no price compared. If he was not ready to share nicely as well, ban was justified plainly (I wrote Something like that too no ?)

Protect your contents (the pics and video you're selling), protect your show by removing pirate copy from sites, OK. But in your show, protect the show and your tippers' mood because they are your real 'goods'.
oh yes, I did, oooof.
Sorry, really if you understood here "let them go and don't care the dumbs". I don't understand how you could.

Don't tell a cammodel she is being greedy trying to earn a living again too.
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If anything it might make someone uncomfortable to my reaction to someone's bad behavior, but I shouldn't have to hide my emotions incase it does.

I did not tell it at all (about greedy thing) just I meant focus on your real value and not on non-valuable material things (screen) or details.
More : if you thing that you sell *goods* while streaming you'll be gravely wrong imo and will not be able to maintain your room's real value passing time to justify your prices or arguing with beggars - you can see it in some rooms, rares, who argue and discuss each act with beggars putting a market mood in here. Prices are always justified and haggling or only justifying them with beggars would display you as being 'greedy' even if I know well that it's wrong. You'll see well enough if prices are adapted through the success of the menu or by visiting other rooms, and don't have to discuss it at all in room.
(this point, OK, I wrote too fast and clumsily and could hurt sensibilities, but I hope that I'm more clear here)

And a last : about 'hiding your emotions'.
Asked like this, I agree fully the reaction.
oh yes, I tried there, but not enough.... If your keep enough distance with dumbs, you won't have too much bad reactions or emotions (to hide or not as you feel it).

So, all my apologies if I've been not sharp enough or too direct in some words and blessed some sensibilities.
I just hope that the poster @Ch4ttyCoupl3 got materials to continue to cam quietly)

(I read back once... twice... and ok, I post it like this now :shy:)
 
I need to disagree with this though. You are not free to record. MFC and chaturbate are privately owned spaces and the feeds are protected by copyright.

That's not how it is on cb. By offering copyrighted material on cb, you grant them a license, not the copyright. That stays yours. So also the feed is your own copyright. Dmca take downs are only done by cb when their watermark is on the video/picture, according to their TOS.


Legally it's in my country exactly like @ForceTen says. I can copy anything digital for personal use. I even pay royalties on harddrives, memory cards etc for this personal use.

The moment the copies are used for commercial means, i break the copyright law here.

In general just explain your point of view as a model i'd say. Otherwise you are a Don Quichotte.
 
@DoD404 I think you need to start learning that just because you watch cams, you don't have all the right answers. You have your perspective. Which is valuable in it's own accord. But you answered things that was problematic which could damage how she handles her room.

Thanks for apologizing. But I don't think cammodel needs to worry over basics or freeloaders thinking cammodels are greedy for wanting a certain amount to do something. It's not worth the stress.
 
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I offer a recording of my show every night, for a price. If you are recording my show yourself instead you are stealing from me.
I don’t care what your copyright laws in your country are or which site you use, it’s shitty. Don’t be shitty.
 
If a member is caught screenshotting in your room or during a private or a Skype show, how do you react and respond?

I have had it where people blatantly have asked for ‘ a flash long enough for a screenshot’

For him, it was an instant telling off, followed by a kick out of the room and a lifetime ban.

What do you girls do - Did I overreact?

Some asshole did that to me during a Skype show. After he did that I was pissed and unenthusiastically went on until the show time was up. I went on to block the guy, he still tried to find other ways to get shows, but I have blocked all his accounts. So no you didn't over react.
 
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