If you Owned a Site with 500+ Modes...

[pastensed]

I think it would be a good idea to make search options available for Platinum Members. This way a new member would have to browse through different girls, getting to know everyone. Once they're a Platinum Member they would have been exposed to different girls and would have the option narrow their search to suit their particular desire for that moment.

For example, the other day I really had an urge for a sweet girl next door. To me that means brunette, slender, innocent and young. Everyone in my friends list is at least 25, most are over 30. I have always liked full grown, intellectually mature women. I also wanted to find a room that wasn't packed. I like to chat with a model before a group or private. So finding a room with a game or a countdown would have been perfect. I scrolled through 150 girls before I found what I was looking for. That took me over 1/2 hour and by that time the girl was ready to log off. I couldn't very well ask her to chat for 10 minutes before private. So I said hello, she said goodbye, and I watched some free porn.

Having the search engine available for Platinum Members enables those that use the site regularly to explore different sides of their desires while forcing new users to explore more models.

 

[TashaDutch]

I think it would be a good idea to make search options available for Platinum Members. This way a new member would have to browse through different girls, getting to know everyone. Once they're a Platinum Member they would have been exposed to different girls and would have the option narrow their search to suit their particular desire for that moment.

For example, the other day I really had an urge for a sweet girl next door. To me that means brunette, slender, innocent and young. Everyone in my friends list is at least 25, most are over 30. I have always liked full grown, intellectually mature women. I also wanted to find a room that wasn't packed. I like to chat with a model before a group or private. So finding a room with a game or a countdown would have been perfect. I scrolled through 150 girls before I found what I was looking for. That took me over 1/2 hour and by that time the girl was ready to log off. I couldn't very well ask her to chat for 10 minutes before private. So I said hello, she said goodbye, and I watched some free porn.

Having the search engine available for Platinum Members enables those that use the site regularly to explore different sides of their desires while forcing new users to explore more models.

agreed! problem with that is.. do you let the girls categorize themselfs.. or do you do it yourself (site mod,admin)
i worked at a site that had pretty much every category... but the girls did it themself.. so it wasnt always true..
i think thats one of the reasons mfc doesnt have it up...

also.. i think that should be available for everyone.. why just the people who have more to spend? it will make it easier to spend more in the end..

 

[AmberCutie]

I think it would be a good idea to make search options available for Platinum Members. This way a new member would have to browse through different girls, getting to know everyone. Once they're a Platinum Member they would have been exposed to different girls and would have the option narrow their search to suit their particular desire for that moment.

Good idea! Oh and hi.

 

[GreatDane]

The problem that I see with the limits on search criteria is that if I stuck to that type of search I would not have met some of the amazing women that I have met so far. mfc is full of women that did not fit what I thought my "TYPE" was but from bouncing around like I did at first I found out that there are so many more that fit what I really want than just the type that I thought I wanted. And it has been stated before from others also.

Have to admit, this forum has gotten me to search out some of the women that I would not have looked at with just a simple fast glance through a room and have met some amazing women from here.

 

[Sevrin]

innocent

I wonder how many hits you would get if you did a search on the term "innocent" on MFC.

 

[pastensed]

also.. i think that should be available for everyone.. why just the people who have more to spend? it will make it easier to spend more in the end..

Many of the previous posts have stated that their favorite girls don't fall into their usual category types. I am the same. The truth is, what I find appealing in a woman is less quantifiable than brown or red hair. In real life my ideal woman would be 27-33, brown hair, no kids, spiritually and politically liberal, 120lbs-150lbs etc... My two favorite girls are SpiffyWendy, a curvy Red Head, and LovelyLemon, a tall slender blond. I would never have found these two girls if I limited my search.

Here's the truth about guys; we don't really know what we want. I grew up surrounded by Jewish and Italian women so that's what I normally search for in life and online. In truth, the desire that these women inspire in me has more to do with some kind of esoteric, unquantifiable connection than the way they look.

If search engines were available to every premium the only girls that would get any business would be young and slim. Just like in life, we men are often surprised by what we want and what we love. As a business MFC must be aware of this and make sure that girls outside of the typical Hollywood type get exposure. Unlike free porn sites, MFC wants their customers to be exposed to a variety of girls outside of their ordinary predilections. In an attempt to force customers to be exposed to different girls, the search engine must not be available to new users. As a consumer, I wouldn't still be on this site if I hadn't found these girls.

With that being said, I do wish that I could search for specific attributes when that's what I'm in the mood for. MFC has done their job of exposing me to different girls. In truth, a search engine will probably hurt more girls than it helps because in 2011 people tend to like small, young girls. I don't usually, but I know that I'm in the minority.

 

[IggySpitfire]

OK, here we go. My ideal site would include the following items:

1) PAY THE MODELS WELL- : The model should get the lions share of money earned. As we guys know too well "If mama ain't happy,nobody's happy".

2) LIMIT GUESTS/ANON'S - If you don't pay, you can't play. Spectators would be allowed, but they would not be able to chat with models. Hell,I may not even give them audio. Let 'em see what's going on & like it so much that they want to become a member to participate.

3) REQUIRE A CREDIT CARD AT REGISTRATION - This is a business & I don't think it's unreasonable to require people have a minimum level of financial viability. Further, to reduce the abuses that being able to easily create multiple accounts can allow, I would require a small minimum purchase of tokens/chips.

4) COVER CHARGE - Yes, kinda like in a bar. I would charge a tiny fee (1 token/chip) for every minute a member was in a room. This would go into a general fund & not credited to the individual model.

5) PUBLIC, GROUP, PRIVATE SHOWS ALLOWED - Do what you want as long as its legal. Ban the usual bathroom stuff, etc. So, you ask "You would allow even explicit stuff in open chat?" Yes I would, because...Here it comes!

6) REVENUE SHARING - Remember the Cover Charge fund above? This money would be divided equally. All that tiny money adds up. Models that draw large crowds would contribute the most, models with small crowds would benefit the most.

7) CAM SCORES - Hell NO.

8) MISS CAM SITE - Hell NO.

9) ON SITE FAN STORE - Filled with all the model merchandise I could get. Videos, photo's, coffee mugs, panties, T-shirts, flip flops, key chains, sex toys, etc.

So there it is...now rip it apart boys & girls...lol

 

[AmberCutie]

also.. i think that should be available for everyone.. why just the people who have more to spend? it will make it easier to spend more in the end..

Read Mirra's post on the page before this. I think it makes good sense.

 

[AmberCutie]

6) REVENUE SHARING - Remember the Cover Charge fund above? This money would be divided equally. All that tiny money adds up. Models that draw large crowds would contribute the most, models with small crowds would benefit the most.

How would you stop me, as a model, from simply turning my cam on and being logged in just to get my share of this? Cheaters are everywhere, this would allow them to prosper. Also, the models who bust their ass to get big rooms would end up being bitter that they're paying lazy girls' wages. It can't be equal, there has to be bonuses in this plan for them somehow.

 

[IggySpitfire]

6) REVENUE SHARING - Remember the Cover Charge fund above? This money would be divided equally. All that tiny money adds up. Models that draw large crowds would contribute the most, models with small crowds would benefit the most.

How would you stop me, as a model, from simply turning my cam on and being logged in just to get my share of this? Cheaters are everywhere, this would allow them to prosper. Also, the models who bust their ass to get big rooms would end up being bitter that they're paying lazy girls' wages. It can't be equal, there has to be bonuses in this plan for them somehow.

OK, for the sake of brevity I left out details. I think some minimum performance level could be set to qualify for sharing. Also, god forbid, one might actually monitor what's going on, on their site (hello Leo) an owner might simply look.

Anyway, my point is that for the sake of variety & having a "well rounded" site maybe more "modest" or alternative models are necessary too. They help fill out the roster ya know...
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[TashaDutch]

also.. i think that should be available for everyone.. why just the people who have more to spend? it will make it easier to spend more in the end..

Read Mirra's post on the page before this. I think it makes good sense.

i´m sorry but i dont really get what you mean by reading mirra´s post.. i did.. and? :?

 

[TashaDutch]

6) REVENUE SHARING - Remember the Cover Charge fund above? This money would be divided equally. All that tiny money adds up. Models that draw large crowds would contribute the most, models with small crowds would benefit the most.

How would you stop me, as a model, from simply turning my cam on and being logged in just to get my share of this? Cheaters are everywhere, this would allow them to prosper. Also, the models who bust their ass to get big rooms would end up being bitter that they're paying lazy girls' wages. It can't be equal, there has to be bonuses in this plan for them somehow.

OK, for the sake of brevity I left out details. I think some minimum performance level could be set to qualify for sharing. Also, god forbid, one might actually monitor what's going on, on their site (hello Leo) an owner might simply look.

Anyway, my point is that for the sake of variety & having a "well rounded" site maybe more "modest" or alternative models are necessary too. They help fill out the roster ya know...
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that always ends up in looking at earnings instead of real performance.. i was booted from flirt4free because i didnt earn enough.. nobody ever bothered to check how i runned my room..
but i can relate to what you're saying.. low earnings or low score dont really present all the girls right..
also agree.. the more a girl earns.. the more she gets.. ah well.. its all just so confusing.. i dont think anybody could ever make a "perfect' site for both girls and members..

 

[Mirra]

OK, here we go. My ideal site would include the following items:

...SNIP...

So there it is...now rip it apart boys & girls...lol

So I cut out all your points to shorten the quote and make my post slightly less massive. Anyhow... here's my take on your points.

1) Totally agree. You'll eventually attract the best models if, with all else equal, you pay out the best %. It's a huge thing to have on your side.

2) I could agree to most of this though I honestly don't mind the MFC way too much. I would probably go with Basic Account (credit card information provided plus other registration information) gets everything but chat and guests get nothing but video.

3) One account per valid credit card... no charge necessary. All others must guest and deal with those penalties.

4) As a hangout and chat with friends kind of guy, this would put a serious dent in my ability to hang out. I easily spend 20 hours a week on MFC if you include weekends. That's 1200 tokens per week which basically comes out to $100 per week if I buy 1875 token packages. Seems like a penalty on the people who are willing to actually register AND pay. Go guest and get video free... go premium and get sound and chat at a token a minute. Boooo.

5) I have no beef with this. Nothing illegal and I cannot complain. If I don't like what a model is doing, I am free to leave.

6) My answer to 4 pretty much nullifies needing to answer this.

7) You're thinking too much as a user or model when it comes to camscore and not as the site owner. Good business says you give an advantage to your product that brings in the most money at the lowest cost. But maybe I am thinking too much like a premium when it comes to your "cover charge."

8) Again as the site owner perspective, this is probably one of the most GENIUS things Leo has done. He put forward a relatively small amount of prize money and created so much competition that the top 20 models probably make over two times what they made before Miss MFC was started.

9) Merchandise isn't cheap... so I assume you're basically saying a storefront for the model to be able to list stuff? If it's up to the site owner to develop merchandise for all of the models, it'd be a nightmare.

 

[AmberCutie]

i´m sorry but i dont really get what you mean by reading mirra´s post.. i did.. and? :?

Maybe you don't know which part I'm talking about since some of Mirra's recent posts were, uh... verbose. This is the discussion I'm referring to.

Although, it seems a good idea, if I was to search on specific criterias, I would never have found and tipped some models on my friend list.
For example I hate tatoos so it would have excluded Harliequinn : bad bad idea

I agree 250% with this. I have two models who I consider my favorites (though MANY of you ladies are absolutely fabulous people who I reckon are awesome) but one of them never would have made it through any filter I set if I was given the choice.

The point is that if the hefty filter options are available right from the get-go, new folks may get tunnel vision and not see all the options, which is bad for both the site, the models, and the customer (even though he won't know it.) Making it something that you earn down the road helps avoid this, and also gives the member an additional perk if he chooses it for once he spends x amount of $ on the site.

 

[Mirra]

The point is that if the hefty filter options are available right from the get-go, new folks may get tunnel vision and not see all the options, which is bad for both the site, the models, and the customer (even though he won't know it.) Making it something that you earn down the road helps avoid this, and also gives the member an additional perk if he chooses it for once he spends x amount of $ on the site.

The way I look at it is kind of a "save us dumb males from ourselves" thing.

 

[Keltaric]

The problem that I see with the limits on search criteria is that if I stuck to that type of search I would not have met some of the amazing women that I have met so far. mfc is full of women that did not fit what I thought my "TYPE" was but from bouncing around like I did at first I found out that there are so many more that fit what I really want than just the type that I thought I wanted. And it has been stated before from others also.

I really don't see the logic in having a deliberately poor search functionality just for the rare happenstance, serendipity type findings you are talking about. I think you are going to have far more success with customers by letting them start off finding exactly what they want (or what they THINK they want), and as they spend more time on the site they'll start to want to see "what else is out there" and either search randomly or broaden their search terms.

Giving people bad tools on purpose is very rarely a good thing, and is rarely good for business.

I am sure there are tons of books at the book store I'd love that I've never found, but I still don't want bookstores to stop organizing their books or give me bad search tools. My apologies in advance for comparing models to books. I'm just making an analogy here.

As for limiting it to platinum members: this also seems anti-success to me. Platinums are already pretty hard core. They know the site and they probably know about a good percentage of the models. The people that are going to be most frustrated by a lack of a good search are the newer people you are trying to hook as quickly as possible to get them to join and start spending tokens.

As for classification: I think for the categories you use as search options there have to be a set of specific choices. Then the models pick the *one* that most closely pertains to them. If they lie, that's likely going to just result in people finding them and being displeased, and people NOT finding them who would have been happy. That's not in their best interests.

I agree with the person who suggested letting searchers click as many or as few checkboxes as possible so they can search a range.

 

[Mirra]

I agree with the person who suggested letting searchers click as many or as few checkboxes as possible so they can search a range.

That was me... in one of my novels in this thread. I could totally go for drop down categories as long as they were well planned out. MFCs similar options for the profiles is pretty terrible. Especially for body type.

As for the poor tools thing, my take isn't so much giving a guy poor tools but more smarter tools since not all of us guys really have a clue. What I envisioned this morning when I posted was for example (and this is a rough example) in the matter of height, guys could choose short, average, or tall. Each of those would constitute a range but there would also be overlap between them of two inches. So basically the bottom two inches of average would also show up under short and the top two inches of average would also show up under tall. That said, maybe being able to search to the quarter inch is what guys really need/want to find that ideal fantasy. *shrug* Like I said... that was kind of what I had in my head this morning though I'm not sure WHY I like the notion.

 

[pyrite1965]

As for limiting it to platinum members: this also seems anti-success to me. Platinums are already pretty hard core. They know the site and they probably know about a good percentage of the models.

I don't know that many models, but the ones I do, I know pretty well.

 

[pastensed]

I really don't see the logic in having a deliberately poor search functionality just for the rare happenstance, serendipity type findings you are talking about. I think you are going to have far more success with customers by letting them start off finding exactly what they want (or what they THINK they want), and as they spend more time on the site they'll start to want to see "what else is out there" and either search randomly or broaden their search terms.

Giving people bad tools on purpose is very rarely a good thing, and is rarely good for business.

I am sure there are tons of books at the book store I'd love that I've never found, but I still don't want bookstores to stop organizing their books or give me bad search tools. My apologies in advance for comparing models to books. I'm just making an analogy here.

As for limiting it to platinum members: this also seems anti-success to me. Platinums are already pretty hard core. They know the site and they probably know about a good percentage of the models. The people that are going to be most frustrated by a lack of a good search are the newer people you are trying to hook as quickly as possible to get them to join and start spending tokens

Let me begin by saying that I don't own a site and this is purely for the sake of discussion. In response to the analogy to the bookstore, I don't think that is a true comparison. I think of MFC more like a grocery store. Smart store owners put the bread and the milk blocks apart. That's the thinking behind having limited search options.

This is an industry fueled by impulse. The interesting thing about impulse, it can be redirected more easily than it can be fulfilled. Over 50% of the time I set out looking for a specific desire to be fulfilled I am re-directed and end up enjoying something else. I still have my fun. When I go to the store looking for potato chips I just might get some oreo's. It didn't even occur to me that I wanted oreo's.

The same strange behavior applies to MFC. As I look at my friends list, most of those girls would not have fallen within my normal criteria. I know I'm not alone in this phenomenon.

I believe the reason for this is that people get a picture in their head of what they want physically. That does not mean that it is what's most gratifying to them. I always though the Megan Fox "type" was what I wanted. There are girls on here that look like that. I have found that because this in interactive, young girls don't do it for me. I like the seductive power of a full grown woman.

There's no way to get someone to try something that they normally wouldn't without at least forcing them to walk by it.

With that being said, I do want a better search engine. I like going to porn sites and typing in what ever desire I have at that moment. To take the metaphor further; I know where everything that I get weekly is, now I want them to put oreo's and milano's together. I wouldn't have the weekly shopping list at all if there were a search engine. That's why newbies would benefit from scrolling through multiple girls and platinum premiums would benefit from having a search engine.