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Eva_ChangeN said:You really are retarded aren't you...loosen the straps to your helmet lil buddy. We aren't "having fun with you". Your a liar, a scammer, a scab, a weakling , a thief, a jerk, and in no way positive. I know your think clear is a flavor, but you could really get sick from licking the windows.
Meoff_69 said:Whoa...wait a minute! Mr. Tragaveli?
I'm confused, here. Sorry, I'm just a really dumb perv who's obviously not as intelligent as you. Nor am I the savvy businessman that you are, either. So please take a moment and dumb down to my level, will ya?
So lemme get this straight. You're working very hard to advertise a site that "your boy" is putting together, for the benefit of giving models a bigger payday. Congratulations! You must be very proud of your son! I swear, these little whipper-snappers can do wonders these days! What, with computers and the internet, and such. *Psst* Do you think local law enforcement might have a problem because he's under age...and dealing with adult content? I dunno...something you might want to be careful with. But hey, I'm not judging.
In fact, I'm really interested in spending more money on your site, for a membership, so that I can view a model's exclusive content. And you're saying this will make the more coin for the model, right? Wow!! That's great! I can't believe I've wasted my money on a custom videos, that are only made for me, on MFC! Are you saying my custom video purchases, weren't really exclusive? Gee whiz...I sure hope a gal didn't sell my personal video to another fella, only to have him post on forums that he's willing to trade the very video that I paid to have made. Are there really people that are low enough to do such a thing? Don't get me wrong, I'd really like to see these ladies make more money. They bust their assess on a daily basis and deserve it!
Next, you wanted to show pervs like me, and the models too, what a real honest to goodness troll, looks like? So you post an offer for a site that doesn't exist yet, the models question your sincerity, and you attack them. Then you insult them and call them "whores." You keep the thread going in a most excellent "pretend troll' kinda way...then you "back peddle" and "LOL" to high heaven..showing what a nicey face guy you are... who's only really trying to help these ladies out? Oh...and let's not forget that you accused a verified cam model, Cammi, of being a troll, too? BRILLIANT!!! I must learn more from you! Boy...you sure pulled the wool over our eyes, buddy!! What a fantastic lesson you've taught all of us. I feel so much better about myself, now that I know what a real troll looks like. Thank you! I now see what a fool I've been! I've spent money to have these ladies get nekid, and play with their va jay jay's. You're right! That DOES make them "whores!"
But the best part for me...was that you went through the trouble of finding a site, to post that you have 1000's of private, group, and model videos to share! I applaud you for using the same name as you're using here! And how DID you know that Eva would find it? And bring it to everyone's attention, here? You must be psychic, bro! Hey...if you are, can you tell me something, please? I've always wanted a hot, tattooed camgirl to fist my ass!
Can you foresee if I'll ever have a shot at having Jolene Jolene making that fantasy come true for me? Seriously...what do you see? I gotta know, man! I'll pay DOUBLE the membership fee on your son's site, if you tell me! And if it does happen, I'm down for letting Jolene film the whole thing, just so she can post it on your boy's site. I want that little ginger to go to town on me, bro! I wan't her to make cry like a baby. Ya know...maybe stomp on my sack, spit on me, and burn me pubes with a lighter! Because after all, I want her to make more money with you guys. Do you think it'd be a hot seller? I mean, really...do you? Even though I'd live out my fantasy with her, I'd gladly pay to be able to relive the whole thing. Can you make that happen for me? And because I don't have them business smarts that you have...would you help me market it, on another site? I would technically be a model performing in it, right? Do you have some sort of legal model agreement paper doo-hickey, to lock that baby, down?
Seriously man...thank you so much for educating all of us! And in particular, educating me, on what a reall troll looks like! And also what a true douchebag, with too much time on his hand, looks like as well! I hope people that act like that can learn to do something more constructive with their time. You know...like start an adult website featuring exclusive model content!
You're one in a million, Sparky! I wanna invite you over to my house for some fried chicken and Yahtzee. Maybe we can read some bible scriptures, afterwards? Whaddya, say? You down? And remember...please tell me that I gotta shot with Jolene? If you need help, I'll bust out my ouija board. Because after all, I'm a nice guy that likes to help people out of the goodness of my heart too, Sugar-britches! And don't let these "whores" and other pervs get you down! I'm with you! You're business plan is solid gold! I'd really hate to see you get all down on yourself and not continue to make your dreams, and your son's, into a reality! Please don't do it! I've been known to get emotional at times. But it's okay, I can admit it! I like a good cry! In fact, let's sit down, C2C each other and have a good cry! I'll bring the cake frosting and the candles. You provide the Kenny G tunes! We'll push through this, together!
*Prologue*...this has been a fine example of someone trolling a troll...who's not really a troll, but who acts like his trolly ways are superior to other's trolly reindeer games. Or...wait. Was it a troll, who thinks he can out troll my own bombastic troll-nanigans? I don't know...my head hurts!
Meoff_69 said:I want that little ginger to go to town on me, bro! I wan't her to make cry like a baby. Ya know...maybe stomp on my sack, spit on me, and burn me pubes with a lighter!
Meoff_69 said:Thank you so much! That means the world to me! Sorry for the spelling errors. I forget to use spell check when I'm in the presence of a knowledge juggernaut such as yourself! And what's the deal? You told Eva to have "sweet dreams" but not to me? That kinda hurts my feelings. Because I know I'm definitely gonna have sweet dreams about you, sparky! Maybe we should cut that whore Jolene outta of my idea...and just make it a vid of me and you? You down?
Tragaveli said:Meoff_69 said:Thank you so much! That means the world to me! Sorry for the spelling errors. I forget to use spell check when I'm in the presence of a knowledge juggernaut such as yourself! And what's the deal? You told Eva to have "sweet dreams" but not to me? That kinda hurts my feelings. Because I know I'm definitely gonna have sweet dreams about you, sparky! Maybe we should cut that whore Jolene outta of my idea...and just make it a vid of me and you? You down?
It's okay hun, nobody is perfect. Let me know before you go to sleep and I'll wish you sweet dreams too. As far as the vid.... tip me first.![]()
Tragaveli said:Did you notice that it was my only post on that website? If I was on there perving why wouldn't I be posting 1,000,000 like the other members looking for content? I don't even remember my password to that site. Lol
Isabella_deL said:I very much enjoyed the "oh wait, it was all a dreaaaaaammm!" post. I mean seriously? It's like going around attacking random people then going and saying afterwards "Actually I only did that to prove there are bad people in the world and to see the reactions, really I'm a super nice guy!"
Also I looked at that website and there were people who'd quoted things you'd said and also posted up there. Also people saying, after content had been removed asking if you could post it up again.
As for those girls who are still pming you, if they exist, they will have read this thread and will be messing with you. If they truly believed it was sincere after reading your posts on this thread (not ours, yours!) they would have either stuck up for you openly on here, or don't have much by way of brains...
There is no point trying to advertise with numbers etc. If you think people aren't buying our content off myfreecams, then why on earth do you think they'd suddenly decide to pay up on "your boy's" site? The figures would work out as the same. Let's face it, you enjoy trolling which is why you're still here. We aren't trolling you, if you think we are then you have no idea what trolling is. Trolling is turning up to a forum with the intention of causing trouble. On this forum a lot of us are fairly tight knit, we have debates about things, but we do all support each other when someone turns up causing trouble. You are simply an idiot who has counted up unrealistic numbers and is seeing dollar signs in your eyes.
What's funny is that I was the first person to call your bluff, yet you're attacking Eva's camscore! Does having a camscore over 2000 mean I am not attackable? Or have you decided that Eva is the easiest to attack because of the low mfc score? You have also decided to make out a few of the girls who've answered you are complete airheads because they're pretty, work on camera and talk back to you? Is it actually so beyond you that beauty has no effect on what is on the inside? Some of the most intelligent people I know are very beautiful, it's not one or the other. I really don't see how a girl realising they can earn 3k+ a month working from home from the age of 18 makes her stupid and incapable of doing anything else. Let's face it, it's very good money and it means we have time to study/do other things we enjoy/have internships without having to worry about costs of living. If you're open about your sexuality then it's a very good opportunity to give a step up into life.
Following the whole "camgirls are all dirty whores who can do nothing but fuck themselves" with "I was just trying to get a reaction, I love camgirls, you can do whatever you like! I'm a lovely person" Does not work. Please, you've said enough, no one is going to use your site, if anything it'll be blacklisted because of what you've said on this thread, just leave it be. You're only proving more against you and digging your own grave.
SweetSugarpie said:I have a better idea. Post this thread on your boy's website...I'd pay a little just to continue the hilarity.
Tragaveli said:For the 100th time... I do not work for the website, it's a friends website. All them comments about me getting paid, or being unprofessional are irrelevant. I'm just a guy lol. You gals really need to read and take a second for it to register. I know you girls are smart, I'm not calling you dumb, just put more effort into reading and understanding.
Tragaveli said:Lol I don't care who is interested, only the smart girls will take advantage of this site.
Tragaveli said:Lol if you were as good of a reader as you are as a typist you'd have known that I don't make any profits as it's not my site.
Tragaveli said:Another one that doesn't know how to read. It's just follow the leader on this forum huh?
Right right... I see where you're going with this.Tragaveli said:If you noticed at the beginning of this thread I had a different attitude, I'm just ignorant enough to lower my level to meet others.
2 words: Implied MeaningTragaveli said:I know you girls are smart, I'm not calling you dumb, just put more effort into reading and understanding.
AnaVictoriaXO said:Actually being professional is NOT irrelevant. You are trying to represent a site, regardless of it being yours or not.
If I were your "buddy" I would be embarrassed to have someone like you repping my site.
Mirra said:Tragaveli said:Lol I don't care who is interested, only the smart girls will take advantage of this site.Tragaveli said:Lol if you were as good of a reader as you are as a typist you'd have known that I don't make any profits as it's not my site.Tragaveli said:Another one that doesn't know how to read. It's just follow the leader on this forum huh?Right right... I see where you're going with this.Tragaveli said:If you noticed at the beginning of this thread I had a different attitude, I'm just ignorant enough to lower my level to meet others.
2 words: Implied MeaningTragaveli said:I know you girls are smart, I'm not calling you dumb, just put more effort into reading and understanding.
There may be other examples. I was too lazy to comb through everything. Also, when you represent something even voluntarily professionalism does matter. If you don't think so, you've never actually been in a professional environment.
Also can I just note that you keep saying you won't be making any money off said site, and you're just trying to help your friend, err... "boy". But I just went back to the first page to find the quote I posted above.Tragaveli said:I hear what you girls are saying and I don't blame you at all. Let me elaborate. OUR SITE IS NOT A CAM SITE, you stay on MFC or any other site that you're on. WE PROVIDE A FAN CLUB FOR YOU GIRLS, Instead of selling vids (for whatever price) I've seen some girls sell 70 for 300 tokens... whatever... You post them on our site and ONLY MEMBERS THAT PAID FOR MONTHLY ACCESS will see them. I've seen pirating website and what they record is PUBLIC SHOWS. That has nothing to do with us. We provide an atmosphere where people spend money to see content of you that they can't see anywhere else. Do all the camming you like, make your money that way. That has nothing to do with us. But if you want to sell pics and vids to members all you have to do is get them to sign up to our site and pay for YOUR content and you'll make a lot more money, MFC wouldn't take half of everything you make. WE CHARGE A MONTHLY RATE for members and charge you girls nothing. The only reason I posted on this website is because I seen it was for the MODELS benefit, just like our site will be.
AmberCutie said:[
Also can I just note that you keep saying you won't be making any money off said site, and you're just trying to help your friend, err... "boy". But I just went back to the first page to find the quote I posted above.
WE, OUR, US
implies that you're involved
Isabella_deL said:I am still reading this because I am an an active member of this forum and I'm enjoying reading the responses and opinions of the other members and models on this site. Why I cannot help myself answering you is because everything you come out with is so ridiculous! You say I see what you write in the worst possible way, I was critical/tried giving you advice to start with, then you decided to prove me right to be wary and then some by verbally attacking the cam girls and the members on here because they questioned you. There's a little thing called reading between the lines. And my god, there is a hell of a lot of info inbetween your lines. Like I also wrote, I've been unwell the last few days so posting on here hasn't been wasting my time as I wasn't capable of doing anything else with my time.
For the 100th time, I cannot imagine that you are simply an innocent bystander to your "friends" website seeing as you have got so overwhelmingly upset and defensive over it and still seem to be set on advertising it, unless you really do have a personal interest in this website you really do have far too much time on your hands. Also seeing as whatever excuses you have made you've been caught in the act of sharing/selling stolen model videos. I did notice though that your comments had clearly been deleted from that forum seeing as when I looked up eva's site I could no longer find any of your posts, but what I did find were several comments where other people had quoted you, so I think pretty obvious you do still remember the password as that post wouldn't have been deleted without it.
As for the troll comment, disagreeing with you does not mean I am trolling. I have a very strong sense of standing up for what I believe in, and I believe in my sense of right and wrong. In this case, it is kind of like watching a strange man in a car full of sweets going by a playground calling to children to get in the van. Do you a) leave him alone, trust that the kids will be able to judge for themselves. b) be positive that even though it looks suspicious, it's probably all ok, and it isn't any of my business if something bad happened anyway. or c) Go over and see what the hell is going on and wait for the kids parents to show up.
Essentially you are a man in a van going to a playground with your sweets and promising the kids that your friend has a sweetie factory! Now maybe you are in fact being genuine, which is why I would go over, see what's going on, see how the man in the van reacts, if he gets defensive/acts even more suspicious then yeah, there's no way in hell I'm going to go "ok cool, cya!". Do you not see this? I saw something suspicious, tested the water and you reacted in one of the worst ways. And Eva coming across those posts you made is kind of like someone recognising you as a child abductor. The difference is the people you might be praying on are naive/new camgirls, I mean who fucking cares if this is your site or your friends? Potentially you could get all a girls details and her videos then do something really horrible to her. There are psychos out there who would make a site like this, get the girls personal info and either blackmail her or maybe go as far as tracking her down. If these things didn't go through my mind I'd be an idiot. Yes they seem unlikely, but then so does that man in his van with the candy! But it happens!
(p.s, if you were clever you'd have hired an ice cream truck. Presentation is key)
AmberCutie said:Also can I just note that you keep saying you won't be making any money off said site, and you're just trying to help your friend, err... "boy". But I just went back to the first page to find the quote I posted above.Tragaveli said:I hear what you girls are saying and I don't blame you at all. Let me elaborate. OUR SITE IS NOT A CAM SITE, you stay on MFC or any other site that you're on. WE PROVIDE A FAN CLUB FOR YOU GIRLS, Instead of selling vids (for whatever price) I've seen some girls sell 70 for 300 tokens... whatever... You post them on our site and ONLY MEMBERS THAT PAID FOR MONTHLY ACCESS will see them. I've seen pirating website and what they record is PUBLIC SHOWS. That has nothing to do with us. We provide an atmosphere where people spend money to see content of you that they can't see anywhere else. Do all the camming you like, make your money that way. That has nothing to do with us. But if you want to sell pics and vids to members all you have to do is get them to sign up to our site and pay for YOUR content and you'll make a lot more money, MFC wouldn't take half of everything you make. WE CHARGE A MONTHLY RATE for members and charge you girls nothing. The only reason I posted on this website is because I seen it was for the MODELS benefit, just like our site will be.
WE, OUR, US
implies that you're involved
Tragaveli said:My involvement only exists by helping him find girls for his website.