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Hi everybody!

First things first: This is not a rant. I hope someone will listen or explain to me, why it is so hard in this industry.
I posted this topic elsewhere, but it good deleted quickly and i got so much hate and many angry man who told me that i should not “drive new models away, because I’m too stupid for camming”.I know this is controversial and nobody has to agree with me. But maybe a few people want to listen to me and don’t get offended quickly just because I’m not one of these “Oh i love everything about camming” Camgirls. I just want to get this off my chest and i want tu be honest ❤️Please don’t hate me for that.

I‘m a Cammodel for a few years now and I would say that I have a lot of experience in this business. So this comes not from a newbie.
I often wonder why so many cam girls are not honest about how this business is really going for some girls. Sometimes I feel alone with all the thoughts of how unfair, hurtful, humiliating and disrespectful some camgirls will be treated. On YouTube are so many videos how much fun you have as a camgirl and that hundreds or even thousands dollars are waiting for you everyday, you just have to buy a webcam and get naked. Rarely I find a video where a girl talks about the fact , that most of these men treat you like a pile of dog sh*t and their personal punching ball/se*doll.

I keep wondering why all the (especially new) women in the business are told how great it is to be a camgirl and that you have the "power" over men,but I've slowly come to the conclusion that it is actually the other way around. They have the money that a full time model needs to pay rent and buy food. So you have to be/behave like they want you to be, or they tip someone else. And if you’re not a top model who makes 500$ a day from regulars or the great traffic that these sites send you, you stick with the men who demand (even if they have 10000 tokens) because they see that you sit there like an idiot in a quiet room and they take advantage of an „unpopular“ model. Because they think we should be grateful, that he talks to us and has some compassion with a “lonely” camgirl.

I know how hard it is when you jump in front of the cam in a really good mood,really hoping that you have a great shift and then you go live and try to talk to the users, make up games, decorate your room, buy new toys, or a fuckmachine for 700$ and want to make everyone in your room satisfied. Only to find that no one is talking to you,much less tip. No matter how much you move, smile, talk, dance,nothing but complete silence. That’s the worst feeling , when you sit their like a woman who got dumped on her first date, but you smile like a low budget circus clown who has no choice but to „smile the feelings away’‘ because ,maybe someone with tokens and no empathy watches you and gets pissed off because you rightfully look bored because no one wants anything from you and because a camgirl can’t look bored or unhappy, because it’s your job to distract him from his boring wife/life and prove that you’re “worthy” enough for his precious tokens. Or what's even more hurtful is that you see users constantly telling you how great they think you are, maybe tipping you a nice amount, and not even 10 minutes later (when you’re offline or sitting in a silent room)you see him tipping three, four, five times as much in another room.

Of course I agree with the models telling you that once this happens it doesn't matter. Or that the user can spend his money how he likes obviously. But what if you experience this scenario every day? Of course it's also not good to look elsewhere and actually you shouldn't do that, i know .But I think most models also look into other rooms. Especially when it’s quiet.

Then why is it always denied by the models that they do it? Why is hardly a model honest and says "Yes, it hurts when you make an effort and the users spend all their tokens somewhere else". Maybe you want to tell me , that it’s my fault for not entertain them enough, or doing too much for free so they go elsewhere. I asked many people what I’m doing wrong that why this always happens to me. Everyone told me I do nothing wrong. Some told me that I’m “too nice” but i can’t pretend I’m not nice.The admins/support from the sites also giving me unhelpful advice that I just have to go outside or stream from my phone or that I just be naked and wait. Did it all with the same result.

It's often not the case that these models do something else in their shows, often it is exactly the same. So when it’s not because your boring, or look unhappy, why they leave you in your dead room and tip another girl ?

The other thing is that it's also said over and over again , is that any model can be successful if they just work hard enough and stream at least 6-12 hours a day, no matter what they look like.

But what I've had to painfully realize over the years as a camgirl is that if you don't look or behave in a certain way, you'll be much less successful. 80% of men like the largest possible, well-formed breasts, full lips, and a slim figure. Sure, some will now say, "But there are enough successful models who don't look like that." Sure, that's true. I know that are guys existing who like natural bodies. But I've seen for myself that most top/high earning models look the same. So why they most of them get breast implants as soon as possible when it doesn’t make a difference? Why deny the obvious facts that everyone with an internet connection can see for themselves? It really hurts when you get treated so badly everyday (no matter if it’s a basic member or someone who has token) even if you’re nice to everyone and try your best and then you see another girl getting showered in tokens/gifts/nice messages everyday.

My boobs are small and natural and I don't look like an Instagram model. I’m not perfect , but I’m beautiful and I actually liked my body. Everyday I have men who insult me that I'm "fat", that I have saggy tits, even though i just have a normal body (I wear size S/M and I'm 5'3) also that I have an ugly face. They try to manipulate me to loose weight or get plastic surgery (Oh Sweeheart, did you loose weight? You look so great a little bit thinner!Do you collect money for implants?bigger boobs would look amazing on you ❤️❤️❤️) These days i look in the mirror and I think it’s true what these awful, hateful people say. I want to hide my body and nobody insulting me anymore. I don’t feel like a Cammodel, i just feel ridiculous.

In my opinion it is only because men are given an unrealistic body image through porn/instagram/webcam sites. Even the cam sites advertise the perfect "silicone bodies" or flawless women who look too good to be true. And many men on this site don’t have much friends or a stable relationship with anyone ,so they go on this sites to feel good because they talked to a beautiful woman ,or they use us as easy targets where they can throw their anger/misogyny at. (I know that not all of them like that, but i really only had a few in all this years who respected me/ don’t want to cross my boundaries/ wanted to marry me)

Why does nobody ever talk about the fact that certain models just don't have to do much to be successful, but others work their ass of for years only to find that there is no point in trying for these men because most don’t appreciate you like you are.

I've tried for years, really enjoyed this job but now it just hurts to see soo many new models coming to the site and just because they look better or do risky outdoor shows (sometimes even with passers-by/children in the background) immediately got a lot of fans and earn more every day than I did in a week.

Yes, it hurts when you see that you've talked to a user for a really long time and he immediately drops you for a new model and gives her a lot of tips, more than you've ever gotten. I always have this feeling when I go live , because it happens everyday when I’m live and i question myself and what I’m doing wrong. Sometimes i just want to stay in my bed all day and cry, because I feel I’m not good enough for this and never will be.


Y’all can say that i have a negative view on men/the camgirl industry, and maybe your right. I won’t deny that. But this all comes from years of experience in this (toxic) industry. I’m also not ungrateful and say that i didn’t made any money, but all this constant stress/ abuse really took a toll on my body and my mental health. I really want honest opinions ❤️ Sometimes i don’t know anymore if I’m seeing things right or wrong, i just get the feeling of “not good enough” everyday.


I don't want to offend or upset anyone, I just want the truth to be told. Why is it so easy for some girls and others have to advertise/work/ so much for little success.
 
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My boobs are small and natural and I don't look like an Instagram model. I’m not perfect , but I’m beautiful and I actually liked my body. Everyday I have men who insult me that I'm "fat", that I have saggy tits, even though i just have a normal body (I wear size S/M and I'm 5'3) also that I have an ugly face. They try to manipulate me to loose weight or get plastic surgery (Oh Sweeheart, did you loose weight? You look so great a little bit thinner!Do you collect money for implants?bigger boobs would look amazing on you ❤️❤️❤️) These days i look in the mirror and I think it’s true what these awful, hateful people say. I want to hide my body and nobody insulting me anymore. I don’t feel like a Cammodel, i just feel ridiculous.
Those guys are assholes. You sound perfect to me based on that description.
 
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Ya know I completely agree with OP post! I have cammed for 4 years and been fairly successful but not anymore! Now it’s just silence 99% of the time. I am friendly and attractive and can tell myself it’s me….
but is it really?
I mean if all I get is no traffic or silence how can I perform and be at my best? You really can’t.

When I am vocal about how hard it is or near impossible to make money now…I’m told to smile thru it and stop complaining.

I think it’s important to validate how hard camming is emotionally, and mentally and financially.
 
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And the truth is you could look your best , feel your best and work 10 hours a day on cam and not make money or have people talk to you! That’s the cold hard reality. I sat on SM once again and in 2 hours I made $6.30.
yes that is $3.15 per hour.
Now when I step back and think logically about it….it’s insane! Do I blame myself …yes!
But the logical part of me says…..it’s NOT MY FAULT.
I can’t control traffic….can’t control members talking…certainly can’t convince anyone to spend money!
I showed up…did the hours and got nothing from it.
Is it just bad luck? I don’t know!
but it keeps happening so I think GOD or the universe is trying to tell me something and maybe I should listen!

Im gonna do some deep soul searching….because I want a better life for myself.
And maybe I am meant to do some other work…I just know don’t.
Moving and career changes at the same time is hard!
But so is staying stuck and staying just because it’s what you know and is comfortable 🥲
 
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It just sounds like cam modeling isn't for you. Perhaps ask yourself why you HAVE to be a cam model.
I can only speak for myself…but I have returned to camming because I have lots of things going on that make other work impossible to do. Sometimes we choose to cam not because we want to but because of unique circumstances…be it living situation, or physical mental issues
 
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I'm fairly new to camming. I totally hear you on the stress and discouragement that comes from having those slow times you speak of, where the customers seem to not be into you and give you either nothing or throw literally one token at you. ( Which to me is more annoying and disrespectful than just not giving you any damn tokens). My personal experience so far is that men are generally more respectful and generous on SM than they are on CB, MFC, or SC. But that may just be my personal experience. Of course there have also been rough, non- profitable nights on SM though too. But my best solution to this for myself is to not have camming as my only job and form of income. I recently lost my other job and so for a few weeks I was depending on camming to supply 100% of my income. That was freaking stressful and I found that I was no longer enjoying camming, because the pressure of having that as my only avenue to make money was too intense. Especially with how inconsistent it can be. I found myself getting burnt out quick, mainly in my spirit.

I believe balance is key to having a happy career with camming. Balance as in maybe having it as a side job more than your ONLY job. I also think about the future and how I'm not getting any younger, and I don't necessarily aspire to continue as a cam model until I'm 65 years old. Though if anyone does wish to do that, then seriously, more power to them! Also, being someone who struggles with low self esteem, I find that having a "regular" job which I can put my heart and energy into, where I feel I'm truly helping people, is rewarding and helps to build my self worth. And then camming is just a generally fun way to make money where I get to express my sexuality and get kinky and flirty with people. So it's more of a fun side hustle. That's just what is working for me. I appreciate you sharing your honest observations and feelings on all of this Maybe_a_cookie.
 
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Hi everybody!

First things first: This is not a rant. I hope someone will listen or explain to me, why it is so hard in this industry.
I posted this topic elsewhere, but it good deleted quickly and i got so much hate and many angry man who told me that i should not “drive new models away, because I’m too stupid for camming”.I know this is controversial and nobody has to agree with me. But maybe a few people want to listen to me and don’t get offended quickly just because I’m not one of these “Oh i love everything about camming” Camgirls. I just want to get this off my chest and i want tu be honest ❤️Please don’t hate me for that.

I‘m a Cammodel for a few years now and I would say that I have a lot of experience in this business. So this comes not from a newbie.
I often wonder why so many cam girls are not honest about how this business is really going for some girls. Sometimes I feel alone with all the thoughts of how unfair, hurtful, humiliating and disrespectful some camgirls will be treated. On YouTube are so many videos how much fun you have as a camgirl and that hundreds or even thousands dollars are waiting for you everyday, you just have to buy a webcam and get naked. Rarely I find a video where a girl talks about the fact , that most of these men treat you like a pile of dog sh*t and their personal punching ball/se*doll.

I keep wondering why all the (especially new) women in the business are told how great it is to be a camgirl and that you have the "power" over men,but I've slowly come to the conclusion that it is actually the other way around. They have the money that a full time model needs to pay rent and buy food. So you have to be/behave like they want you to be, or they tip someone else. And if you’re not a top model who makes 500$ a day from regulars or the great traffic that these sites send you, you stick with the men who demand (even if they have 10000 tokens) because they see that you sit there like an idiot in a quiet room and they take advantage of an „unpopular“ model. Because they think we should be grateful, that he talks to us and has some compassion with a “lonely” camgirl.

I know how hard it is when you jump in front of the cam in a really good mood,really hoping that you have a great shift and then you go live and try to talk to the users, make up games, decorate your room, buy new toys, or a fuckmachine for 700$ and want to make everyone in your room satisfied. Only to find that no one is talking to you,much less tip. No matter how much you move, smile, talk, dance,nothing but complete silence. That’s the worst feeling , when you sit their like a woman who got dumped on her first date, but you smile like a low budget circus clown who has no choice but to „smile the feelings away’‘ because ,maybe someone with tokens and no empathy watches you and gets pissed off because you rightfully look bored because no one wants anything from you and because a camgirl can’t look bored or unhappy, because it’s your job to distract him from his boring wife/life and prove that you’re “worthy” enough for his precious tokens. Or what's even more hurtful is that you see users constantly telling you how great they think you are, maybe tipping you a nice amount, and not even 10 minutes later (when you’re offline or sitting in a silent room)you see him tipping three, four, five times as much in another room.

Of course I agree with the models telling you that once this happens it doesn't matter. Or that the user can spend his money how he likes obviously. But what if you experience this scenario every day? Of course it's also not good to look elsewhere and actually you shouldn't do that, i know .But I think most models also look into other rooms. Especially when it’s quiet.

Then why is it always denied by the models that they do it? Why is hardly a model honest and says "Yes, it hurts when you make an effort and the users spend all their tokens somewhere else". Maybe you want to tell me , that it’s my fault for not entertain them enough, or doing too much for free so they go elsewhere. I asked many people what I’m doing wrong that why this always happens to me. Everyone told me I do nothing wrong. Some told me that I’m “too nice” but i can’t pretend I’m not nice.The admins/support from the sites also giving me unhelpful advice that I just have to go outside or stream from my phone or that I just be naked and wait. Did it all with the same result.

It's often not the case that these models do something else in their shows, often it is exactly the same. So when it’s not because your boring, or look unhappy, why they leave you in your dead room and tip another girl ?

The other thing is that it's also said over and over again , is that any model can be successful if they just work hard enough and stream at least 6-12 hours a day, no matter what they look like.

But what I've had to painfully realize over the years as a camgirl is that if you don't look or behave in a certain way, you'll be much less successful. 80% of men like the largest possible, well-formed breasts, full lips, and a slim figure. Sure, some will now say, "But there are enough successful models who don't look like that." Sure, that's true. I know that are guys existing who like natural bodies. But I've seen for myself that most top/high earning models look the same. So why they most of them get breast implants as soon as possible when it doesn’t make a difference? Why deny the obvious facts that everyone with an internet connection can see for themselves? It really hurts when you get treated so badly everyday (no matter if it’s a basic member or someone who has token) even if you’re nice to everyone and try your best and then you see another girl getting showered in tokens/gifts/nice messages everyday.

My boobs are small and natural and I don't look like an Instagram model. I’m not perfect , but I’m beautiful and I actually liked my body. Everyday I have men who insult me that I'm "fat", that I have saggy tits, even though i just have a normal body (I wear size S/M and I'm 5'3) also that I have an ugly face. They try to manipulate me to loose weight or get plastic surgery (Oh Sweeheart, did you loose weight? You look so great a little bit thinner!Do you collect money for implants?bigger boobs would look amazing on you ❤️❤️❤️) These days i look in the mirror and I think it’s true what these awful, hateful people say. I want to hide my body and nobody insulting me anymore. I don’t feel like a Cammodel, i just feel ridiculous.

In my opinion it is only because men are given an unrealistic body image through porn/instagram/webcam sites. Even the cam sites advertise the perfect "silicone bodies" or flawless women who look too good to be true. And many men on this site don’t have much friends or a stable relationship with anyone ,so they go on this sites to feel good because they talked to a beautiful woman ,or they use us as easy targets where they can throw their anger/misogyny at. (I know that not all of them like that, but i really only had a few in all this years who respected me/ don’t want to cross my boundaries/ wanted to marry me)

Why does nobody ever talk about the fact that certain models just don't have to do much to be successful, but others work their ass of for years only to find that there is no point in trying for these men because most don’t appreciate you like you are.

I've tried for years, really enjoyed this job but now it just hurts to see soo many new models coming to the site and just because they look better or do risky outdoor shows (sometimes even with passers-by/children in the background) immediately got a lot of fans and earn more every day than I did in a week.

Yes, it hurts when you see that you've talked to a user for a really long time and he immediately drops you for a new model and gives her a lot of tips, more than you've ever gotten. I always have this feeling when I go live , because it happens everyday when I’m live and i question myself and what I’m doing wrong. Sometimes i just want to stay in my bed all day and cry, because I feel I’m not good enough for this and never will be.


Y’all can say that i have a negative view on men/the camgirl industry, and maybe your right. I won’t deny that. But this all comes from years of experience in this (toxic) industry. I’m also not ungrateful and say that i didn’t made any money, but all this constant stress/ abuse really took a toll on my body and my mental health. I really want honest opinions ❤️ Sometimes i don’t know anymore if I’m seeing things right or wrong, i just get the feeling of “not good enough” everyday.


I don't want to offend or upset anyone, I just want the truth to be told. Why is it so easy for some girls and others have to advertise/work/ so much for little success.

I really gained a lot of perspective from the original post. To have learned the perspective of somebody positioned on the other side of the camera seems to carry such value to me out here.

But I think this sincere woman needs to have a greater appreciation for raw numbers.

The mere difference between the raw numbers of cam models in 2022, vs just 'a few years' is that there are considerably more in action today, still during Covid.


Also, some of the OP's social position parallels that of a sweet girl in 8th grade, who looks out at the REST of the student body... and thinks that girl's PURSE is better... THAT girl's SHOES are better... this other girl's ELBOWS are better... this other girl's cell phone case is better... the typing teacher types faster... the girls on the basketball team are taller/(somehow "better")... etc. etc.


The things stated by our OP here could have been written by the most attractive single woman on the planet (whoever that is this minute). It simply isn't fair to take a group of 5000 or 10,000 other models and start dissecting the unique individual traits of each of them while THEY have the strong instincts to stick with their UNIQUENESS as YOU spend way too much time thinking you need to BE somebody else.

IF you are going to compare yourself to other models, you owe it to common sense to compare ALL of YOUR traits with ALL of some other single model's traits. You're just beating yourself up in words when you start comparing YOUR kneecaps to (the girl with the finest kneecaps online)... and comparing YOUR handbag to that of the girl with the finest handbag online.

If you sat at home one day, turned on your computer, and logged-on to a camming website that neither you nor I have ever viewed before, you could easily and quickly find SOME model with more appealing eyelashes than yours... you could easily find SOME other model with finer shoes than yours... and still some other model whose hair came out better (after blowdrying) than yours did today... but doing so is an exercise in foolishness.

I cannot fathom how female models decide just who they want to BE in the morning, as they sit in front of their makeup mirrors and begin to erase the natural face that is there, so they can reach a blank canvas, and then begin to paint-on the random face in their mind that hour. How in the world do you choose ????


Some of your unique FLAWS are the very BEST things about you... because they give you the character that STANDS-OUT from others.


Of course society wants you to fit within the BROAD RANGE of "normal" (heaven forbid one doesn't at least conform within those broad bounds)...

but once you have that down... WHAT OTHERS FIND ATTRACTIVE are those who stand-OUT toward the edges of "normalcy" !

A woman with a big, full ASS so often gets the attention when in any room full of small-framed women... that even though most onlookers would indeed notice that her ass is "big" by most standards.


There should be "directions" on make-up bottles that say:

"Find YOUR NATURAL UNIQUENESS and then use this stuff to 'accent' THAT... - warning: do not 'erase' your uniqueness cuz that makes it too f'ing difficult to then select what to put there".


One grand thing about the interactions that are webcam model chatrooms... is that MEN WILL TELL YOU what they admire about you.


(advice for new/young models: )

A - BELIEVE them


If prior to camming, only two humans have ever viewed your post-pubescent naked self... AND if you've always been self-conscious about your dark, meaty vulva... and men from literally all over the world steadily TELL YOU on webcam chat that they TOTALLY ADORE your meaty muff... then STOP the rest of your doubts and RECOGNIZE your own appeal there.


Don't forget, the kids from grade 5 who always made fun of your eyebrows... ARE IN SOME OTHER cam model chat watching some other model with eyebrows they thought were OK.


The guys who are in YOUR cam room are there because YOU APPEAL TO THEM. (that by itself can be such an impossible hurdle for some cam models to leap).


If we could do a study and separate all female cam models into just two categories of:

"She understands the elements of her physical uniqueness and WHY they appeal to male viewers"


and


"She does not understand which elements of her anatomy are most unique, or why they would appeal to anyone"



Most of the viewers and most of the tokens would be on the side of "she understands...". (that even if we compared the "average" number of tokens per person on each side)


Webcamming is great for many reasons, and chief among them (lol - speaking from the male perspective here, of course)... is that we get to view the NATURAL UNIQUENESSES in soooooooooo many more 'categories' on webcams than we do with women we see at the mall.

The male mind (probably doesn't give a Sh#& about your handbag or your earrings, and instead ) will always glom-onto whichever element of your unique anatomy MOST appeals to him, and it shouldn't take YOU very long to figure out which are your most sought-after uniquenesses. ACCENT THOSE... (but it's important to be recognized as an authentic/actual woman who just happens to HAVE that breathtaking ____(feature)_____). There is a strong tendency by some to put the camera on their naked (best feature) up close, for a long time... without occasionally panning back, to remind the viewer that such a wonderful attribute IS indeed planted upon a random, actual human female. (IF YOUR wonderfully unique attribute were actually created by a computer, well, the male viewer would NOT be so drawn to it).


In closing, I think most of what the original poster stated in such raw and sincere fashion, is a function of the vastly growing number of cam models... with the customers' combined cam model budget NOT growing by the same amounts.

With each passing day, it is becoming more difficult to STAND-OUT on webcam... and it is no coincidence that it is much easier to stand-OUT when you're naked than when you're wearing something you bought off of a rack that is also worn by 300 other women in your area.


I wonder how it was like to be one of the very first cam models... even... say... on Chaturbate. Back when almost nobody even knew about it... and the Chaturbate business model had yet to evolve to what it has become today. Once the crowds of viewers showed up, it was probably pretty lucrative for a while... but then the camgirl side was flooded by far more models... and things got more challenging.

That is sorta where we are... and I think the OP is just verbalizing what are mostly the effects of numbers and supply-demand imbalance.
 

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That is sorta where we are... and I think the OP is just verbalizing what are mostly the effects of numbers and supply-demand imbalance.
Way too many words saying the same thing you always say, which is based on your own preferences that you present as global preferences.

OP is verbalizing their frustration based on their own work experiences, and you rock up to type 10k words about what you personally like to see on cams as a viewer. Framed as commentary on the economic state of things. 😂 It's not helpful or useful.

And comparing an adult performer's perspective to that of a child is just weird.

You are not speaking from the male perspective, you are speaking from your own perspective.
 

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I cannot fathom how female models decide just who they want to BE in the morning, as they sit in front of their makeup mirrors and begin to erase the natural face that is there, so they can reach a blank canvas, and then begin to paint-on the random face in their mind that hour. How in the world do you choose ????

That isn't how make up works. We don't just erase our features and then paint a new face on lol.

Make up you wear is done to enhance the features you like and hide the ones you don't. You don't erase your features though lol. Wtf
 

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I really gained a lot of perspective from the original post. To have learned the perspective of somebody positioned on the other side of the camera seems to carry such value to me out here.

But I think this sincere woman needs to have a greater appreciation for raw numbers.

The mere difference between the raw numbers of cam models in 2022, vs just 'a few years' is that there are considerably more in action today, still during Covid.


Also, some of the OP's social position parallels that of a sweet girl in 8th grade, who looks out at the REST of the student body... and thinks that girl's PURSE is better... THAT girl's SHOES are better... this other girl's ELBOWS are better... this other girl's cell phone case is better... the typing teacher types faster... the girls on the basketball team are taller/(somehow "better")... etc. etc.


The things stated by our OP here could have been written by the most attractive single woman on the planet (whoever that is this minute). It simply isn't fair to take a group of 5000 or 10,000 other models and start dissecting the unique individual traits of each of them while THEY have the strong instincts to stick with their UNIQUENESS as YOU spend way too much time thinking you need to BE somebody else.

IF you are going to compare yourself to other models, you owe it to common sense to compare ALL of YOUR traits with ALL of some other single model's traits. You're just beating yourself up in words when you start comparing YOUR kneecaps to (the girl with the finest kneecaps online)... and comparing YOUR handbag to that of the girl with the finest handbag online.

If you sat at home one day, turned on your computer, and logged-on to a camming website that neither you nor I have ever viewed before, you could easily and quickly find SOME model with more appealing eyelashes than yours... you could easily find SOME other model with finer shoes than yours... and still some other model whose hair came out better (after blowdrying) than yours did today... but doing so is an exercise in foolishness.

I cannot fathom how female models decide just who they want to BE in the morning, as they sit in front of their makeup mirrors and begin to erase the natural face that is there, so they can reach a blank canvas, and then begin to paint-on the random face in their mind that hour. How in the world do you choose ????


Some of your unique FLAWS are the very BEST things about you... because they give you the character that STANDS-OUT from others.


Of course society wants you to fit within the BROAD RANGE of "normal" (heaven forbid one doesn't at least conform within those broad bounds)...

but once you have that down... WHAT OTHERS FIND ATTRACTIVE are those who stand-OUT toward the edges of "normalcy" !

A woman with a big, full ASS so often gets the attention when in any room full of small-framed women... that even though most onlookers would indeed notice that her ass is "big" by most standards.


There should be "directions" on make-up bottles that say:

"Find YOUR NATURAL UNIQUENESS and then use this stuff to 'accent' THAT... - warning: do not 'erase' your uniqueness cuz that makes it too f'ing difficult to then select what to put there".


One grand thing about the interactions that are webcam model chatrooms... is that MEN WILL TELL YOU what they admire about you.


(advice for new/young models: )

A - BELIEVE them


If prior to camming, only two humans have ever viewed your post-pubescent naked self... AND if you've always been self-conscious about your dark, meaty vulva... and men from literally all over the world steadily TELL YOU on webcam chat that they TOTALLY ADORE your meaty muff... then STOP the rest of your doubts and RECOGNIZE your own appeal there.


Don't forget, the kids from grade 5 who always made fun of your eyebrows... ARE IN SOME OTHER cam model chat watching some other model with eyebrows they thought were OK.


The guys who are in YOUR cam room are there because YOU APPEAL TO THEM. (that by itself can be such an impossible hurdle for some cam models to leap).


If we could do a study and separate all female cam models into just two categories of:

"She understands the elements of her physical uniqueness and WHY they appeal to male viewers"


and


"She does not understand which elements of her anatomy are most unique, or why they would appeal to anyone"



Most of the viewers and most of the tokens would be on the side of "she understands...". (that even if we compared the "average" number of tokens per person on each side)


Webcamming is great for many reasons, and chief among them (lol - speaking from the male perspective here, of course)... is that we get to view the NATURAL UNIQUENESSES in soooooooooo many more 'categories' on webcams than we do with women we see at the mall.

The male mind (probably doesn't give a Sh#& about your handbag or your earrings, and instead ) will always glom-onto whichever element of your unique anatomy MOST appeals to him, and it shouldn't take YOU very long to figure out which are your most sought-after uniquenesses. ACCENT THOSE... (but it's important to be recognized as an authentic/actual woman who just happens to HAVE that breathtaking ____(feature)_____). There is a strong tendency by some to put the camera on their naked (best feature) up close, for a long time... without occasionally panning back, to remind the viewer that such a wonderful attribute IS indeed planted upon a random, actual human female. (IF YOUR wonderfully unique attribute were actually created by a computer, well, the male viewer would NOT be so drawn to it).


In closing, I think most of what the original poster stated in such raw and sincere fashion, is a function of the vastly growing number of cam models... with the customers' combined cam model budget NOT growing by the same amounts.

With each passing day, it is becoming more difficult to STAND-OUT on webcam... and it is no coincidence that it is much easier to stand-OUT when you're naked than when you're wearing something you bought off of a rack that is also worn by 300 other women in your area.


I wonder how it was like to be one of the very first cam models... even... say... on Chaturbate. Back when almost nobody even knew about it... and the Chaturbate business model had yet to evolve to what it has become today. Once the crowds of viewers showed up, it was probably pretty lucrative for a while... but then the camgirl side was flooded by far more models... and things got more challenging.

That is sorta where we are... and I think the OP is just verbalizing what are mostly the effects of numbers and supply-demand imbalance.
This is so creepy. Just being bluntly honest here.
 

SaffronBurke

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I cannot fathom how female models decide just who they want to BE in the morning, as they sit in front of their makeup mirrors and begin to erase the natural face that is there, so they can reach a blank canvas, and then begin to paint-on the random face in their mind that hour. How in the world do you choose ????
Tell me you know nothing about what cameras and intense lighting does to your face without telling me you know nothing about what cameras and intense lighting does to your face.
 

AudriTwo

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I cannot fathom how female models decide just who they want to BE in the morning, as they sit in front of their makeup mirrors and begin to erase the natural face that is there, so they can reach a blank canvas, and then begin to paint-on the random face in their mind that hour. How in the world do you choose ????

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Marceline

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I cannot fathom how female models decide just who they want to BE in the morning, as they sit in front of their makeup mirrors and begin to erase the natural face that is there, so they can reach a blank canvas, and then begin to paint-on the random face in their mind that hour. How in the world do you choose ????

My feeble female mind can only hold so many thoughts and mental images. The majority of it is comprised of handbags, shoes, pretty kneecaps that I envy and compliments random men on the internet have given me. So, the rest of my thoughts and mental imagery are a constantly revolving door of imagery from the latest media I have consumed. And I choose from those current mental images how I will paint my face and who I will choose to be for the day.

Today I’m going with Rhaenyra Targaryen.
 
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Hi! i can tell you from my experience and i also consider that i have a lot, maybe Derek is right, camming is not for you if isnt making you happy . I am happy and grateful for this oportunily in life , i always loved camming and i feel like i could never do something more fun in my life as a job . The power stay in us to control our room and the way guys are treating us, i dont have manny complains about it, usually guys are nice and rude onces are kicked out fast by mods .( for me even rudes one are part of making my job great, i keep telling them lots naughty stuff and making all my room laugh and they like the energy and the funny answers , can be entertaining for the room , as in life, you need to see good in everything ., if you getting a lemon make it a limonade;) :) About beeing a top model and having good incomes becouse of the site sending trafic is wrong, usually top models working hard to create that traffic, years and years of dedication .. not falling from sky or from the site .Not having with who to comunicate, i agree is imposible to stay on in good mood, thats why i keep saying is one of the reason girls should let everyone talk, usually chat is active if greys are talking,tippers not talking that much , they mostly wank :giggle: and tip ..if they want .. also another reason i make friendships on site with guys and i mod them, mods knows first way to help me is to talk to me , to talk between them and to keep the chat and comunication alive the hours im on . so, if ill make a video and ill post it, it will be a positive one about camming, if you like and know how to to do it, results will be only good , guys will feel ur energy, your positivity, your plesure to be there for them and to have fun togheter . Hope i can be a cammodel for few more years, ill be really bored without, noone gonna listen to my bulshit for hours daily .. :), and ill miss the attention from guys, the naughty times.. wich i like becouse i do only what making me feel good, etc 🤗
 

melanieoncam

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It can be tough and it's normal to get burnt out from time to time. Literally everyone online gets insults from idiots, no matter if you are a twitch streamer, youtuber or cammodel. It sounds like it would be helpful to bring out your inner bitch and ban without mercy. Put your attention on the spenders and the ones who are behaving and instantly ban the rude ones.

Also maybe try splitcamming. I love it because it makes it less boring when things are slow. One site may be dead while another one is rocking. I used to think top models were sooo busy all the time but then when I took a bit of time to watch and read what some of them post I realized they all have dead times too, every one of them.

For me the advantages outweigh the downsides by a lot. I love the freedom.
 
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I agree. It doesn't mean camming it's not for you like people are saying here. You don't have to enjoy your job as long as it pays your bills. I have PTSD and I have flashbacks in the middle of a show. It's not easy and it makes every mental health issue worse.
 

Lexi_Summers

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I really gained a lot of perspective from the original post. To have learned the perspective of somebody positioned on the other side of the camera seems to carry such value to me out here.

But I think this sincere woman needs to have a greater appreciation for raw numbers.

The mere difference between the raw numbers of cam models in 2022, vs just 'a few years' is that there are considerably more in action today, still during Covid.


Also, some of the OP's social position parallels that of a sweet girl in 8th grade, who looks out at the REST of the student body... and thinks that girl's PURSE is better... THAT girl's SHOES are better... this other girl's ELBOWS are better... this other girl's cell phone case is better... the typing teacher types faster... the girls on the basketball team are taller/(somehow "better")... etc. etc.


The things stated by our OP here could have been written by the most attractive single woman on the planet (whoever that is this minute). It simply isn't fair to take a group of 5000 or 10,000 other models and start dissecting the unique individual traits of each of them while THEY have the strong instincts to stick with their UNIQUENESS as YOU spend way too much time thinking you need to BE somebody else.

IF you are going to compare yourself to other models, you owe it to common sense to compare ALL of YOUR traits with ALL of some other single model's traits. You're just beating yourself up in words when you start comparing YOUR kneecaps to (the girl with the finest kneecaps online)... and comparing YOUR handbag to that of the girl with the finest handbag online.

If you sat at home one day, turned on your computer, and logged-on to a camming website that neither you nor I have ever viewed before, you could easily and quickly find SOME model with more appealing eyelashes than yours... you could easily find SOME other model with finer shoes than yours... and still some other model whose hair came out better (after blowdrying) than yours did today... but doing so is an exercise in foolishness.

I cannot fathom how female models decide just who they want to BE in the morning, as they sit in front of their makeup mirrors and begin to erase the natural face that is there, so they can reach a blank canvas, and then begin to paint-on the random face in their mind that hour. How in the world do you choose ????


Some of your unique FLAWS are the very BEST things about you... because they give you the character that STANDS-OUT from others.


Of course society wants you to fit within the BROAD RANGE of "normal" (heaven forbid one doesn't at least conform within those broad bounds)...

but once you have that down... WHAT OTHERS FIND ATTRACTIVE are those who stand-OUT toward the edges of "normalcy" !

A woman with a big, full ASS so often gets the attention when in any room full of small-framed women... that even though most onlookers would indeed notice that her ass is "big" by most standards.


There should be "directions" on make-up bottles that say:

"Find YOUR NATURAL UNIQUENESS and then use this stuff to 'accent' THAT... - warning: do not 'erase' your uniqueness cuz that makes it too f'ing difficult to then select what to put there".


One grand thing about the interactions that are webcam model chatrooms... is that MEN WILL TELL YOU what they admire about you.


(advice for new/young models: )

A - BELIEVE them


If prior to camming, only two humans have ever viewed your post-pubescent naked self... AND if you've always been self-conscious about your dark, meaty vulva... and men from literally all over the world steadily TELL YOU on webcam chat that they TOTALLY ADORE your meaty muff... then STOP the rest of your doubts and RECOGNIZE your own appeal there.


Don't forget, the kids from grade 5 who always made fun of your eyebrows... ARE IN SOME OTHER cam model chat watching some other model with eyebrows they thought were OK.


The guys who are in YOUR cam room are there because YOU APPEAL TO THEM. (that by itself can be such an impossible hurdle for some cam models to leap).


If we could do a study and separate all female cam models into just two categories of:

"She understands the elements of her physical uniqueness and WHY they appeal to male viewers"


and


"She does not understand which elements of her anatomy are most unique, or why they would appeal to anyone"



Most of the viewers and most of the tokens would be on the side of "she understands...". (that even if we compared the "average" number of tokens per person on each side)


Webcamming is great for many reasons, and chief among them (lol - speaking from the male perspective here, of course)... is that we get to view the NATURAL UNIQUENESSES in soooooooooo many more 'categories' on webcams than we do with women we see at the mall.

The male mind (probably doesn't give a Sh#& about your handbag or your earrings, and instead ) will always glom-onto whichever element of your unique anatomy MOST appeals to him, and it shouldn't take YOU very long to figure out which are your most sought-after uniquenesses. ACCENT THOSE... (but it's important to be recognized as an authentic/actual woman who just happens to HAVE that breathtaking ____(feature)_____). There is a strong tendency by some to put the camera on their naked (best feature) up close, for a long time... without occasionally panning back, to remind the viewer that such a wonderful attribute IS indeed planted upon a random, actual human female. (IF YOUR wonderfully unique attribute were actually created by a computer, well, the male viewer would NOT be so drawn to it).


In closing, I think most of what the original poster stated in such raw and sincere fashion, is a function of the vastly growing number of cam models... with the customers' combined cam model budget NOT growing by the same amounts.

With each passing day, it is becoming more difficult to STAND-OUT on webcam... and it is no coincidence that it is much easier to stand-OUT when you're naked than when you're wearing something you bought off of a rack that is also worn by 300 other women in your area.


I wonder how it was like to be one of the very first cam models... even... say... on Chaturbate. Back when almost nobody even knew about it... and the Chaturbate business model had yet to evolve to what it has become today. Once the crowds of viewers showed up, it was probably pretty lucrative for a while... but then the camgirl side was flooded by far more models... and things got more challenging.

That is sorta where we are... and I think the OP is just verbalizing what are mostly the effects of numbers and supply-demand imbalance.
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Sashacurves

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I really gained a lot of perspective from the original post. To have learned the perspective of somebody positioned on the other side of the camera seems to carry such value to me out here.

But I think this sincere woman needs to have a greater appreciation for raw numbers.

The mere difference between the raw numbers of cam models in 2022, vs just 'a few years' is that there are considerably more in action today, still during Covid.


Also, some of the OP's social position parallels that of a sweet girl in 8th grade, who looks out at the REST of the student body... and thinks that girl's PURSE is better... THAT girl's SHOES are better... this other girl's ELBOWS are better... this other girl's cell phone case is better... the typing teacher types faster... the girls on the basketball team are taller/(somehow "better")... etc. etc.


The things stated by our OP here could have been written by the most attractive single woman on the planet (whoever that is this minute). It simply isn't fair to take a group of 5000 or 10,000 other models and start dissecting the unique individual traits of each of them while THEY have the strong instincts to stick with their UNIQUENESS as YOU spend way too much time thinking you need to BE somebody else.

IF you are going to compare yourself to other models, you owe it to common sense to compare ALL of YOUR traits with ALL of some other single model's traits. You're just beating yourself up in words when you start comparing YOUR kneecaps to (the girl with the finest kneecaps online)... and comparing YOUR handbag to that of the girl with the finest handbag online.

If you sat at home one day, turned on your computer, and logged-on to a camming website that neither you nor I have ever viewed before, you could easily and quickly find SOME model with more appealing eyelashes than yours... you could easily find SOME other model with finer shoes than yours... and still some other model whose hair came out better (after blowdrying) than yours did today... but doing so is an exercise in foolishness.

I cannot fathom how female models decide just who they want to BE in the morning, as they sit in front of their makeup mirrors and begin to erase the natural face that is there, so they can reach a blank canvas, and then begin to paint-on the random face in their mind that hour. How in the world do you choose ????


Some of your unique FLAWS are the very BEST things about you... because they give you the character that STANDS-OUT from others.


Of course society wants you to fit within the BROAD RANGE of "normal" (heaven forbid one doesn't at least conform within those broad bounds)...

but once you have that down... WHAT OTHERS FIND ATTRACTIVE are those who stand-OUT toward the edges of "normalcy" !

A woman with a big, full ASS so often gets the attention when in any room full of small-framed women... that even though most onlookers would indeed notice that her ass is "big" by most standards.


There should be "directions" on make-up bottles that say:

"Find YOUR NATURAL UNIQUENESS and then use this stuff to 'accent' THAT... - warning: do not 'erase' your uniqueness cuz that makes it too f'ing difficult to then select what to put there".


One grand thing about the interactions that are webcam model chatrooms... is that MEN WILL TELL YOU what they admire about you.


(advice for new/young models: )

A - BELIEVE them


If prior to camming, only two humans have ever viewed your post-pubescent naked self... AND if you've always been self-conscious about your dark, meaty vulva... and men from literally all over the world steadily TELL YOU on webcam chat that they TOTALLY ADORE your meaty muff... then STOP the rest of your doubts and RECOGNIZE your own appeal there.


Don't forget, the kids from grade 5 who always made fun of your eyebrows... ARE IN SOME OTHER cam model chat watching some other model with eyebrows they thought were OK.


The guys who are in YOUR cam room are there because YOU APPEAL TO THEM. (that by itself can be such an impossible hurdle for some cam models to leap).


If we could do a study and separate all female cam models into just two categories of:

"She understands the elements of her physical uniqueness and WHY they appeal to male viewers"


and


"She does not understand which elements of her anatomy are most unique, or why they would appeal to anyone"



Most of the viewers and most of the tokens would be on the side of "she understands...". (that even if we compared the "average" number of tokens per person on each side)


Webcamming is great for many reasons, and chief among them (lol - speaking from the male perspective here, of course)... is that we get to view the NATURAL UNIQUENESSES in soooooooooo many more 'categories' on webcams than we do with women we see at the mall.

The male mind (probably doesn't give a Sh#& about your handbag or your earrings, and instead ) will always glom-onto whichever element of your unique anatomy MOST appeals to him, and it shouldn't take YOU very long to figure out which are your most sought-after uniquenesses. ACCENT THOSE... (but it's important to be recognized as an authentic/actual woman who just happens to HAVE that breathtaking ____(feature)_____). There is a strong tendency by some to put the camera on their naked (best feature) up close, for a long time... without occasionally panning back, to remind the viewer that such a wonderful attribute IS indeed planted upon a random, actual human female. (IF YOUR wonderfully unique attribute were actually created by a computer, well, the male viewer would NOT be so drawn to it).


In closing, I think most of what the original poster stated in such raw and sincere fashion, is a function of the vastly growing number of cam models... with the customers' combined cam model budget NOT growing by the same amounts.

With each passing day, it is becoming more difficult to STAND-OUT on webcam... and it is no coincidence that it is much easier to stand-OUT when you're naked than when you're wearing something you bought off of a rack that is also worn by 300 other women in your area.


I wonder how it was like to be one of the very first cam models... even... say... on Chaturbate. Back when almost nobody even knew about it... and the Chaturbate business model had yet to evolve to what it has become today. Once the crowds of viewers showed up, it was probably pretty lucrative for a while... but then the camgirl side was flooded by far more models... and things got more challenging.

That is sorta where we are... and I think the OP is just verbalizing what are mostly the effects of numbers and supply-demand imbalance.
The intention here was kind and supportive, the execution was patronising, sexist and downright creepy. Can we get a "vomit" reaction button?
 
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The male mind (probably doesn't give a Sh#& about your handbag or your earrings, and instead ) will always glom-onto whichever element of your unique anatomy MOST appeals to him
You seem to think that guys only visit camsites to stare at a pretty female bodypart. Though I won't lie, it does help, personality is a very big part of it as well. I visit my favorite model because of her enthusiasm, that she's so energetic, that we share many favorite things. That when I logoff, I can say that I had a fulfilling and enjoyable time. Looking at other members, it's often pretty much the same. Yes we tip for boobs and whatnot, but the majority is about having a good time (I'm talking about token sites ofcourse).
Yes some guys only come there for a quick wank, but those are usually the ones that don't stay around for long.

So please don't speak for all men in general, cause you seem to have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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You seem to think that guys only visit camsites to stare at a pretty female bodypart. Though I won't lie, it does help, personality is a very big part of it as well. I visit my favorite model because of her enthusiasm, that she's so energetic, that we share many favorite things. That when I logoff, I can say that I had a fulfilling and enjoyable time. Looking at other members, it's often pretty much the same. Yes we tip for boobs and whatnot, but the majority is about having a good time (I'm talking about token sites ofcourse).
Yes some guys only come there for a quick wank, but those are usually the ones that don't stay around for long.

So please don't speak for all men in general, cause you seem to have no idea what you're talking about.
Agreed. It's complete twaddle. I like a wank as much as the next guy but traditional porn could serve that purpose. When I visit my favourite model it's for company, her amazing personality and the laughs we have. I've not kept track but I've probably tipped every bit as much without asking her to do anything as I have in pvt.
 
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Agreed. It's complete twaddle. I like a wank as much as the next guy but traditional porn could serve that purpose. When I visit my favourite model it's for company, her amazing personality and the laughs we have. I've not kept track but I've probably tipped every bit as much without asking her to do anything as I have in pvt.
Too true. I don’t even tip from the tip menu half the time, just direct tip, which really pisses off the rest in the room!
 
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If prior to camming, only two humans have ever viewed your post-pubescent naked self... AND if you've always been self-conscious about your dark, meaty vulva... and men from literally all over the world steadily TELL YOU on webcam chat that they TOTALLY ADORE your meaty muff... then STOP the rest of your doubts and RECOGNIZE your own appeal there.


This is just about the creepiest and ickiest post I've read here...
 
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yummybrownfox

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This is just about the creepiest and ickiest OP I've read here...

Every time I think he can't get any creepier, he goes and outdoes himself.
 

MarieElise

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Between comparing grown women to tweens
Yep and the mansplaining, and assumptions that all we care about is how we look to men. Guess what buddy, I attract a ton of male attention either way. And likely so does every other model on this site. So why in the fuck would I go natural, which is the least effort for me for cam persona? FFS I'm gonna keep that for everyday obviously, because it's easiest. Practicality knocking here. Just common sense.
 
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