Exclusive Private shared without my knowledge

[Randy Watson]

Hi, I was recently on an Exclusive Private Show with a model on SC. The model was sharing the Private on Tango without my consent or knowledge. During the Private we entered into C2C which was shared on Tango without permission from myself. I confronted the model and after viewing my collection and noticed she kept looking over to her left apparently she was watching the Tango feed. This happened 3 times before I realized what she was doing. The model was even banned multiple times on Tango for nudity but only for short periods of time. What should I do is she also recording and posting elsewhere?

 

[SCRIPTA]

...What should I do...

Report the incident(s) in question to the streaming site; and stop patronizing that particular broadcaster.

 

[Slapstick]

I'm not familiar with Tango, but the StripChat TOS allows the model to stream a private to other sites as long as it is not free to view.

Models are allowed to multi-stream to other platforms; but before initiating a Private or Exclusive Private show request on our site, it is essential to stop all other free-to-view public streams on all other platforms.

Do you know for a fact that your image was broadcast on Tango? If so you should contact their customer support and file a complaint. If you were doing the things we do with cam models then you definitely have a case.

If the model is consistently looking off to the side I would be inclined to think there was another person (model and/or studio operator) in the room.

 

[Maxi]

You must have been on Tango at the same time, how else would you know?

 

[NotYou]

You must have been on Tango at the same time, how else would you know?

This is easy without being on another site, there are 2 easy ways to know:

1) Most sites have specific sounds, and they are easy to recognise, especially if people are sending tips/tokens, or some sites even have specific sounds for PMs, too.

2) If you know the model also works on other platforms.. maybe she only works on SC + tango, and if she is clearly looking at other chat messages, you can quite easily realise this.


(I recently went to a private with a model and I could clearly hear messages from another site, and easily knew which site it was without me having to go there and check - so I ended the private).

You don't need to be a detective to be able to figure some stuff out, especially as an experienced user, unfortunately.

 

[Maxi]

This is easy without being on another site, there are 2 easy ways to know:

1) Most sites have specific sounds, and they are easy to recognise, especially if people are sending tips/tokens, or some sites even have specific sounds for PMs, too.

2) If you know the model also works on other platforms.. maybe she only works on SC + tango, and if she is clearly looking at other chat messages, you can quite easily realise this.


(I recently went to a private with a model and I could clearly hear messages from another site, and easily knew which site it was without me having to go there and check - so I ended the private).

You don't need to be a detective to be able to figure some stuff out, especially as an experienced user, unfortunately.

I’ve never even heard of Tango

 

[Stella_SC]

Hello @Randy Watson

Please report the model to our Support team, help@stripchat.com. Our models are NOT allowed to continue broadcasting on other platforms while they are in an Exclusive Private on Stripchat. Provide Support with the model's name and date of your private.

 

[NotYou]

I’ve never even heard of Tango

I only heard of Tango because 1 model told me about it (she sent me a referral link to signup with).

 

[Maxi]

Oh well. “You know, when you’ve been Tango’d”

(One for the 90s Brits, there.)

 

[MarieElise]

I think it's against SCs rules.

I don't get why people trip over that, but if you do, then ask models before you buy shows with them if they broadcast to other sites/ splitcam, and if they would be willing not to for your show. You actually don't own the rights to your show. Because it's the models face, voice, body being broadcast, not yours, and we are entertainers. But I get that some of you get super butt hurt about it, and I think a lot of us would be honest with you about it, if you asked.

Getting tango'd was the worst! hahaha

 

[Ich Bin]

I only heard of Tango because 1 model told me about it (she sent me a referral link to signup with).

I first heard of it when I read this post.

 

[Stella_SC]

Hello @MarieElise

The original poster was actually referring to an Exclusive Private session with a model. In this type of show, both the model and the user can see and hear each other, as long as the user has their camera and microphone turned on. So it’s not just one-way — it’s a two-way, interactive experience if the user chooses to enable those features.

Also, you shared some great advice - users should always be in full communication with a model about expectations and requests before engaging in a Private or an Exclusive Private.

 

[Randy Watson]

Hello @Randy Watson

Please report the model to our Support team, help@stripchat.com. Our models are NOT allowed to continue broadcasting on other platforms while they are in an Exclusive Private on Stripchat. Provide Support with the model's name and date of your private.

Hi Stella, I did send an email to clhoe@stripchat.com but realized that was from an older thread, so I don’t know if she’s still there or not. I will email help@stripchat.com and see if they’re able to assist. I don’t think it’s right and hopefully doesn’t happen again to anyone else. I have screenshots of everything even her admitting to it. I’m going to attach them to my email.

 

[Randy Watson]

Hi Stella, I did send an email to clhoe@stripchat.com but realized that was from an older thread, so I don’t know if she’s still there or not. I will email help@stripchat.com and see if they’re able to assist. I don’t think it’s right and hopefully doesn’t happen again to anyone else. I have screenshots of everything even her admitting to it. I’m going to attach them to my email.

And I thank you, Stella

 

[Randy Watson]

I think it's against SCs rules.

I don't get why people trip over that, but if you do, then ask models before you buy shows with them if they broadcast to other sites/ splitcam, and if they would be willing not to for your show. You actually don't own the rights to your show. Because it's the models face, voice, body being broadcast, not yours, and we are entertainers. But I get that some of you get super butt hurt about it, and I think a lot of us would be honest with you about it, if you asked.

Getting tango'd was the worst! hahaha

When it’s C2C I’m unfamiliar with how that works. Would it broadcast my face, voice, and then some? Or just my voice or nothing at all. I appreciate the response. And if it doesn’t show me in the other broadcast then you’re right with the who cares. Considering that her numbers went triple from her other broadcasts on tango, I had the impression it does show me as well.

 

[Stella_SC]

Hello @Randy Watson

You did the right thing by contacting Support at help@stripchat.com

You would need to turn on your camera and microphone in a C2C. Otherwise, a C2C works the same as a regular private where you can only type to the model.

 

[NotYou]

When it’s C2C I’m unfamiliar with how that works. Would it broadcast my face, voice, and then some? Or just my voice or nothing at all. I appreciate the response. And if it doesn’t show me in the other broadcast then you’re right with the who cares. Considering that her numbers went triple from her other broadcasts on tango, I had the impression it does show me as well.

First you have to allow the website (Stripchat) to access your camera and mic, then when you take the model for an exclusive show, you have to click the button to turn on cam2cam and video/voice on. So, as long as you didn't click the button for that in this exclusive, you're all good and fine, i have never personally had an issue where it will just turn itself on.

Her viewers would have tripled purely because she - presumably - became nude and doing more.

 

[Vixxen81]

Wait, no slap on his wrist for clearly violating the terms of "NO SCREENSHOTS/RECORDINGS" of model's broadcasts? @Stella_SC

 

[Stella_SC]

Hello @Vixxen81

Models can turn on recordings of their privates and make them available for purchase to users. The original poster mentioned “after viewing my collection” - which indicates that the model would have allowed him to record her anyways.

Additionally he only referred to sending screenshots in his email to Support to explain his case.

 

[MarieElise]

Considering that her numbers went triple from her other broadcasts on tango, I had the impression it does show me as well.

Oh wow. I've never heard of Tango. That sounds insane to me.

I have no clue what tango is.
I split cam, and once in a while I forget to turn off to another site. It sucks. When I see I've done that, I block every single guy that stayed and watched, without alerting me, because it was not something he paid for, or had permission to be a part of. The few times that have happened, my room numbers have stayed normal for the time of day, so thinking they tripled because you were possibly there, sounds very unlikely to me. I've been doing this 12 years now. If her placement bumped up, or it hit a certain time of day where everyone jumps online at once, that is more likely the reason for more viewers relatively suddenly. Or she took of an item of cl.othing that was on before Yeah as soon as models take their panties off, the room count triples, quadruples, whatever. Everyone wants to see some pussy for free.

That is just some extra information about spilt camming, in general. Different sites have their own specific rules. I don't patronize or work for sites that try to come down on models for very benign and understandable stuff, or demand exclusivity in any way. Because that can severely impact a models average hourly earnings, and make the site not a viable option for her any longer.

I think you seem like you may be reading a bit much into it.
It doesn't seem worth all this thought, time and effort to me.

 

[NotYou]

Oh wow. I've never heard of Tango. That sounds insane to me.

I have no clue what tango is.
I split cam, and once in a while I forget to turn off to another site. It sucks. When I see I've done that, I block every single guy that stayed and watched, without alerting me, because it was not something he paid for, or had permission to be a part of. The few times that have happened, my room numbers have stayed normal for the time of day, so thinking they tripled because you were possibly there, sounds very unlikely to me. I've been doing this 12 years now. If her placement bumped up, or it hit a certain time of day where everyone jumps online at once, that is more likely the reason for more viewers relatively suddenly. Or she took of an item of cl.othing that was on before Yeah as soon as models take their panties off, the room count triples, quadruples, whatever. Everyone wants to see some pussy for free.

That is just some extra information about spilt camming, in general. Different sites have their own specific rules. I don't patronize or work for sites that try to come down on models for very benign and understandable stuff, or demand exclusivity in any way. Because that can severely impact a models average hourly earnings, and make the site not a viable option for her any longer.

I think you seem like you may be reading a bit much into it.
It doesn't seem worth all this thought, time and effort to me.

Tango appears to me as one of those where it's not for nudity it's to "talk and be friends and tip" people.

 

[MarieElise]

Tango appears to me as one of those where it's not for nudity it's to "talk and be friends and tip" people.

Yeah so if she accidentally or purposefully broadcast a private there, the viewership would triple because there would be nudity, and it would draw all the horn dogs in, as well as just curious people, and shocked people.

I mean I'm open to being wrong here, but from my perspective a dude thinking that because he's on c2c, when it sounds like he wasn't, it drew a huge crowd in, is not super realistic and grounded. The only time that would happen would be if he were a celebrity or already famous person, and somehow everybody knew.

When I offer c2c shows I have to crank the volume to max to even hear the dude grunt and add the odd comment or request in. And the visual of his cam being open, isn't even rebroadcast. Because the model isn't rebroadcasting a screen capture. Maybe I'm missing something, but this stuff kinda stumps me, as to why it would be a big deal.

I would recommend any guy who is concerned about such stuff, to clearly request that a model not rebroadcast his private, before taking her for one. It's actually kinda helpful to get an extra reminder to shut shit down, days you are tired. I was fucking livid when I realized I accidentally rebroadcast one earlier this week. Like furious! Maybe some models want to do it, but I bet a lot of times it's someone who's exhausted making a forgetful and unpurposeful error. It benefited me absolutely zero to do that, and actually hurt me quite a bit. Usually I won't even rebroadcast public flashes because it encourages lurkers to camp out. And it's a huge turn off and extra work, for me to have to deal with lurkers who have no spending cash. Some of them accept they weren't invited, but some start arguing and getting rude. It's exhausting.

 

[johnsmith54383]

Yeah so if she accidentally or purposefully broadcast a private there, the viewership would triple because there would be nudity, and it would draw all the horn dogs in, as well as just curious people, and shocked people.

I mean I'm open to being wrong here, but from my perspective a dude thinking that because he's on c2c, when it sounds like he wasn't, it drew a huge crowd in, is not super realistic and grounded. The only time that would happen would be if he were a celebrity or already famous person, and somehow everybody knew.

When I offer c2c shows I have to crank the volume to max to even hear the dude grunt and add the odd comment or request in. And the visual of his cam being open, isn't even rebroadcast. Because the model isn't rebroadcasting a screen capture. Maybe I'm missing something, but this stuff kinda stumps me, as to why it would be a big deal.

I would recommend any guy who is concerned about such stuff, to clearly request that a model not rebroadcast his private, before taking her for one. It's actually kinda helpful to get an extra reminder to shut shit down, days you are tired. I was fucking livid when I realized I accidentally rebroadcast one earlier this week. Like furious! Maybe some models want to do it, but I bet a lot of times it's someone who's exhausted making a forgetful and unpurposeful error. It benefited me absolutely zero to do that, and actually hurt me quite a bit. Usually I won't even rebroadcast public flashes because it encourages lurkers to camp out. And it's a huge turn off and extra work, for me to have to deal with lurkers who have no spending cash. Some of them accept they weren't invited, but some start arguing and getting rude. It's exhausting.

I simply demand the model shuts down other open public streams or I would not start a private. If I need to show them that I know where they are streaming so be it I'll just log on there and show them. If they argue I would tell them they are violating the rules but I am not harsh enough to report them and I will just leave it at that and move on.

I used to lecture such models with wisdom such as 'Who the hell do you think wants to pay for something you give away for free?' and countless other bits of logic due to frustration but I cannot fix the world and mostly don't care any more. Still, not a chance will I let anybody mess with a show I pay for. Even more so as I pay about 10 times the price for tokens due to living outside of the 1st world.

 

[HeadyRaven]

'Who the hell do you think wants to pay for something you give away for free?'

Exactly. There's a rate difference between a regular private and Exclusive. Sometimes it's a pretty big difference. And for Exclusive, it clearly states, "No one can spy on your session." Allowing that session to broadcast live on other sites for free and especially with people sending tip requests and otherwise participating - no. I don't think that's the intention of Exclusive. It would be great if you could assume this won't happen but it seems to happen a lot. That's where discussing it upfront comes in.

 

[rockin_rod]

Wow. I truly hope that the model in this example does not suffer any consequences from OP's report to SC, since based on the details provided, they did not breach any site ToS.