General questions about moderation, support and so on.

[Deleted member 100707]

Hi everyone,

I don't know if it's the right place. Most posts are unbanning requests...
I've been active on another platform for quite some time, currently around level 90 there, and I've been thinking about whether it makes sense to switch or at least try CB as an alternative.

However, I've had some experiences lately that made me uncertain. I reported a show with content that I would classify as a zero tolerance violation (red fluids, model didn't even stop). I reported the room but so far nothing happened. I sent an email after that, just for information for myself. The platform even has a recording of the show since it was a private show. So far, no action has been taken and I received no further feedback on the case. (Yes, it was a private show. I watched it on another site.)

In another case, I noticed a profile that openly displayed a PayPal address for direct payments. After reporting, only the address was removed. No suspension, no further consequences.
I understand that moderation takes time, but I'm genuinely wondering: what enforcement mechanisms are actually in place to protect users and ensure the rules are applied consistently? And because I see so many requests for unbanning accounts here, there must be mechanisms for both sides to have a good experience and protection. How have your experiences been with this?

I'm not trying to bash the platform. I'm genuinely trying to understand whether this is the right place for me before I invest more time and deposit money here. It seems also limited in deposits at the beginning for only 1000 tokens?

 

[ts_cammer98]

I obviously don't work for cb or anything, I just stream there. But based on my experiences and what I see here in this forum, some people seem to get away with things for a while at times. I think they do eventually get spotted and banned or warned or whatever. I mean we have a lot of unban requests here where the streamer has no idea what they did, and I suspect some of them are obviously a mistake but a lot of them I don't think are. They may have been breaking a rule for so long and have never read over the TOS ever so they probably have no idea what they even did wrong.

I have no idea what Chaturbate uses for a system to spot and deal with TOS violations really. I kind of suspect its a mix of ai and actual people as well as people reviewing reportings. I kind of wish the chaturbate rep here would actually chat a little more here than just confirming cases being looked at. It would be really nice if they could give us some actual insight on the inner workings there.

Either way, rather you are a viewer or a model, it's best to just sort of worry about yourself as even if it takes time, people who break the TOS will have their moment come to them eventually. It always seems nothing is being done and problems are running rampant when your in the very moment. Overall I think Chaturbate is an excellent platform choice and if you just follow the rules and respect the models your going to have fun there no matter what. If you feel reporting is necessary to improve the platform go ahead and do it, and you don't have to stick around in that model's room if you don't want to. Just please don't get to happy with that report button as the overuse of that is probably one of the main reasons things take so much time and can also be the main reason for misunderstood bans and such that make things much tougher for the model.

 

[Deleted member 100707]

Thanks for that, genuinely appreciated.
Just to address the report button point directly: I don't think I overdo it. The two cases here were both what I'd call absolute zero tolerance violations, the kind where I don't weigh platform response times or anything else. That category isn't just a platform rule either. Payment processors have their own requirements in that area that platforms have no real choice but to enforce, which makes the lack of visible reaction even more surprising to me.
The "eventually it catches up with them" framing does help. I can accept that enforcement isn't always visible. It was more the combination of a clear violation and complete silence that made me want to understand the system better before putting more time and money into this platform.

The inconsistency you touched on is something I've noticed too. I sometimes get the feeling enforcement outcomes depend less on the actual violation and more on whether the account belongs to a large studio or not. I've seen a warning issued for something I'd consider a serious child welfare concern, while something relatively minor got a seven day suspension. The proportionality just doesn't track. CB allows cross-platform promotion anyway so that specific example doesn't apply here, but the pattern feels familiar.

 

[Vixxen81]

Hey, everyone, just a reminder Chaturbate has less than 60 people staffed across all departments and 10's of thousands of models and millions of users -- and they probably receive thousands of emails/reports a day. You can see this evidence in the huge difference between one ticket number here and the next.

Keep your own house clean and don't go peeking into other people's windows

 

[KingMarti]

ensure the rules are applied consistently?

They arnt. That's pretty much the same on any site tbh, also applies generally in life.

 

[Deleted member 100707]

@Vixxen81 Thanks for the friendly response. I understand you have a personal interest in the platform given the affiliate link in your signature. That may have actually answered my question though. If the staff numbers are accurate, that's a platform level problem on its own. Everything else is a separate conversation. And sorry for asking an actual question instead of submitting an unban request.

 

[Vixxen81]

@Vixxen81 Thanks for the friendly response. I understand you have a personal interest in the platform given the affiliate link in your signature. That may have actually answered my question though. If the staff numbers are accurate, that's a platform level problem on its own. Everything else is a separate conversation. And sorry for asking an actual question instead of submitting an unban request.

I have been a CB model for 13 years. Every day.

 

[punker barbie]

Hi everyone,

I don't know if it's the right place. Most posts are unbanning requests...
I've been active on another platform for quite some time, currently around level 90 there, and I've been thinking about whether it makes sense to switch or at least try CB as an alternative.

However, I've had some experiences lately that made me uncertain. I reported a show with content that I would classify as a zero tolerance violation (red fluids, model didn't even stop). I reported the room but so far nothing happened. I sent an email after that, just for information for myself. The platform even has a recording of the show since it was a private show. So far, no action has been taken and I received no further feedback on the case. (Yes, it was a private show. I watched it on another site.)

In another case, I noticed a profile that openly displayed a PayPal address for direct payments. After reporting, only the address was removed. No suspension, no further consequences.
I understand that moderation takes time, but I'm genuinely wondering: what enforcement mechanisms are actually in place to protect users and ensure the rules are applied consistently? And because I see so many requests for unbanning accounts here, there must be mechanisms for both sides to have a good experience and protection. How have your experiences been with this?

I'm not trying to bash the platform. I'm genuinely trying to understand whether this is the right place for me before I invest more time and deposit money here. It seems also limited in deposits at the beginning for only 1000 tokens?

Please provide your username or ticket number so I may pass it along to our Support team

 

[Vixxen81]

 

[yummybrownfox]

I reported a show with content that I would classify as a zero tolerance violation (red fluids, model didn't even stop). I reported the room but so far nothing happened. I sent an email after that, just for information for myself. The platform even has a recording of the show since it was a private show. So far, no action has been taken and I received no further feedback on the case. (Yes, it was a private show. I watched it on another site.)

So you admit to watching a cam model’s leaked private show on another site , and then you reported her for being on her period? And you know for certain that she was aware that she was bleeding?

The reason I ask is years ago my period started precisely at the moment I was in the middle of doing a flash on MyFreeCams, and my back was turned to the camera (and my face was looking at the wall). I didn’t know I was bleeding until I’d turned back around, and there was a message from some guy pointing out that I’m bleeding. Thank goodness I was able to just handle that and log off, and not have to worry about a site banning me for something unintentional that lasted a few seconds.

 

[Deleted member 100707]

Two final remarks. First, there was no leaked content. It was a live private show on another platform while this profile was simultaneously active. Second, your own example describes the opposite of what I observed: you noticed, stopped, and logged off. The model I reported did not stop. By the time the session ended, a significant portion of the bedding was visibly stained. Unawareness is not a credible explanation at that point.
The thread has gone off track. My only intention here was to inform myself.

 

[ts_cammer98]

I think this tread is coming more on track tbh.... would be funny if cb reviewed it and was like oh that was really just nothing. Did get suspiciously defensive over "overuse of the report button"

 

[LaceyRoyce]

only report things that might cause harm to the model, or another person or animal. It’s not your job or mine to be the model police.. we are all just trying to make our bag and sometimes models take risks with rules.

 

[rockin_rod]

I've been active on another platform for quite some time, currently around level 90 there, and I've been thinking about whether it makes sense to switch or at least try CB as an alternative.

What is it about that site that is making you think about moving to CB? No platform is perfect and it seems you already have a good idea what the cons of CB are.

 

[Vixxen81]

Conversely just received a warning for something I did not ans have never done. So this is gonna be a wild ride, folks.

 

[ElGato]

Keep your own house clean and don't go peeking into other people's windows

^^This

only report things that might cause harm to the model, or another person or animal. It’s not your job or mine to be the model police.. we are all just trying to make our bag and sometimes models take risks with rules.

^^and this

If you see something you do not like, move on to a different room... Plenty available
Unless this is a power/control thing, in which case, it is a you problem.

 

[misterical]

Nobody likes a grass.

 

[Deleted member 100707]

The rules you dismiss so casually exist because the companies that enable your payments require them. Mastercard and Visa set the standards. The platforms comply or lose payment processing entirely. We have seen what happens when they don't. The OnlyFans situation in 2021 and the PornHub situation before that showed exactly how fragile this system is and how quickly it collapses without compliance.
Reports against zero-tolerance violations protect the platform, the models, and the users. Without that infrastructure none of you receive payment for your work. There is no viable alternative at this scale. Crypto does not solve it. Prepaid cards do not solve it. Bank transfers do not scale for this model.
I have made four or five reports on this platform over the past two months. Every single one was a zero-tolerance violation. That is not overuse of a report button. That is exactly what the button exists for.
The assumptions made in this thread, the false characterizations of my reports, and the suggestion that enforcement is a personal control issue reflect a fundamental misunderstanding of why these rules exist.
Perhaps the platform can clarify that none of this is a conspiracy theory and that the behavior in this thread toward a member asking legitimate questions is worth reflecting on.

Have fun in liking your posts up

 

[LaceyRoyce]

The rules you dismiss so casually exist because the companies that enable your payments require them. Mastercard and Visa set the standards. The platforms comply or lose payment processing entirely. We have seen what happens when they don't. The OnlyFans situation in 2021 and the PornHub situation before that showed exactly how fragile this system is and how quickly it collapses without compliance.
Reports against zero-tolerance violations protect the platform, the models, and the users. Without that infrastructure none of you receive payment for your work. There is no viable alternative at this scale. Crypto does not solve it. Prepaid cards do not solve it. Bank transfers do not scale for this model.
I have made four or five reports on this platform over the past two months. Every single one was a zero-tolerance violation. That is not overuse of a report button. That is exactly what the button exists for.
The assumptions made in this thread, the false characterizations of my reports, and the suggestion that enforcement is a personal control issue reflect a fundamental misunderstanding of why these rules exist.
Perhaps the platform can clarify that none of this is a conspiracy theory and that the behavior in this thread toward a member asking legitimate questions is worth reflecting on.

Have fun in liking your posts up

I fully understand why the rules exist, to placate processors.

However, it’s the sites job to make sure they are in compliance not yours. You running around reporting people is not somehow saving sites from losing payment processing. You’re not helping anyone.

Spend that energy working for sex worker rights not helping sites keep us all under mastercard and visa’s thumb.

It’s pretty clear you feel you have the moral high ground here so maybe this will help anyone reading this thread

 

[misterical]

Nobody likes a grass.

And nobody likes a grass who sarcastically likes their post saying "Nobody likes a grass". @LaceyRoyce is right. Instead of running around grassing on models, use that energy more constructively.

 

[droopla]

The rules you dismiss so casually exist because the companies that enable your payments require them. Mastercard and Visa set the standards. The platforms comply or lose payment processing entirely. We have seen what happens when they don't. The OnlyFans situation in 2021 and the PornHub situation before that showed exactly how fragile this system is and how quickly it collapses without compliance.
Reports against zero-tolerance violations protect the platform, the models, and the users. Without that infrastructure none of you receive payment for your work. There is no viable alternative at this scale. Crypto does not solve it. Prepaid cards do not solve it. Bank transfers do not scale for this model.
I have made four or five reports on this platform over the past two months. Every single one was a zero-tolerance violation. That is not overuse of a report button. That is exactly what the button exists for.
The assumptions made in this thread, the false characterizations of my reports, and the suggestion that enforcement is a personal control issue reflect a fundamental misunderstanding of why these rules exist.
Perhaps the platform can clarify that none of this is a conspiracy theory and that the behavior in this thread toward a member asking legitimate questions is worth reflecting on.

Have fun in liking your posts up

Sites like CB are multi million dollar sites , they are very well able to hold their own pants.
Models are not multi million models they take a risk and if you report them to protect the site you may put that model into, real, poverty.
Do you feel good about that ? You are not CB's police officer.

I have been on CB for many years , and yes i have seen the sh*t hit the fan (for real)
And if i see it i just move on.

The only reasons for me to rapport is child safety and scamming