How many models also let their moderator or another assistant log in to their broadcast account? I recently discovered that a model I frequent has a guy that "helps", and also logs in to her broadcast account. This would mean he can see my "private" messages, be able to see cam-to-cam sessions, and have access to her token monies. It leaves me feeling violated.
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It's called an operator, and as far as I know, you can expect that lots of studio models have one of those.
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Never assume anything is private, its public and less public.
She's a studio model. Either keep going and stop sharing your therapy-level crap to a model or find one who is independent and doesn't let people do that.
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Or keep therapy-level crap for therapy
You feel violated because the studio model has on hand assistance and have acess to your messages? That's a bit extreme. They have access to her account because it's the studio's account. They are the ones that pay her out.
If you are visiting studio model or not assume that all your private messaging is being viewed or handled by a third party. It's not unheard-of a indie model having an assistance with messaging. May it be someone they hired out or their significant other. Hell when members say some wild ass shit- im screenshotting and sharing with model friends in a group chat.
If you are visiting studio model or not assume that all your private messaging is being viewed or handled by a third party. It's not unheard-of a indie model having an assistance with messaging. May it be someone they hired out or their significant other. Hell when members say some wild ass shit- im screenshotting and sharing with model friends in a group chat.
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Even if a studio model doesn't have an operator and they are genuinely communicating with you directly, always assume that the studio admins see everything. This also applies to offline communication: if an operator is communicating as the model in PMs then they are also doing it on Telegram and/or social media, and the studio admins likely also have access to such communication if the model is using studio resources for it.
If you visit a studio model, especially in a Colombian studio, then you need to accept that there's a room full of hairy ass guys watching everything you are up to on screen. Usually they employ a team of "monitors" and it won't even always be the same person. So if you're sending a load of bullshit and pics of your dick then you should know that there are multiple people other than the model that are watching your every move.
He feels violated because it BS . If its so matter of fact then introduce the guy so we know whats up.
That's just delusional. You don't need to know anything more than "I like the model, the vibe, the menu so let's play!"
Oh geez I dont know what kind of 21 year old boys you deal with but thats not gonna cut it, I spend a little and I have a few more requirements than those. Maybe I make it to complicated but 15-20 years ago we had to earn our way into a pvt with charm , a gift of gab and a little luck. I really do miss the banter and hilarious interaction between the model and guest or sometime just the guest in the room. When the menu started getting popular I thought it was stupid and still never use it. Really "I would like to order a squirt show with extra moans ... cmon". THe lush is ok but now its just about . make me cum make me do this ... what everHow about you make us pull out our wallet by being compatable or friendly.. things have changed
but do you share who he is or just what he said , Big difference- I hand a worker my credit card and say some wack shit. She goes and gets a laugh with the co-workers but she doesnt share my cc number. At least she knows she is breaking the law
Yes, things have changed and I've watched it happen throughout the entire 13 years I have been on CB. My viewers are in their 40's to 70's (because I am in my 40's) and they still act like fools occasionally. What I think you're not taking into account here is that during the beginning of Covid over 100,000 new models suddenly appeared across all of the sites because they thought it was going to be free money. The ones who figured out how to moan and groan and keep the tips flowing are still there and the rest fell to the wayside and stopped camming. They don't know what it was like before Covid. They don't know what it was like to work CB in 2012/2013 when there were only four pages of models and you HAD to have a personality to keep people interested.
I will say this -- not using a tip menu is a huge disservice to a model because those actions in that menu are what make the thumbnail move and what gets new viewers into the room. You could tip me 10,000 tokens and request I never do a thing for those tokens and I would be resentful that you didn't want to help me move the needle visually. To other viewers -- viewers much like yourself, it looks like I refused to do anything for it and that hurts the room. Who would tip after that? So please reconsider your stance there.
Well I dont assume a business is going to do nefarious actions without me knowing, This is have the reason I wont tip if I find out there are operators. I understand its a vice and attracts scums and low lifes but I am visiting through CB . And I assume the studios are following the rules laid out by CB. It doesnt say anything about third party or operators or unknown men in East European countries will be looking at your personal expressions and may do something illegal. Yes its in the back of your mind But i want to think people will do the right thing or be dropped.
I remember one guy a few years ago.
"Who is typing for you?"
Me: Lowers the cam to show that it's my fingers on the keyboard.
"Yeah it's not in sync."
Me: No shit sherlock, there's a 5 second delay on CB.
"Who is typing for you?"
Me: Lowers the cam to show that it's my fingers on the keyboard.
"Yeah it's not in sync."
Me: No shit sherlock, there's a 5 second delay on CB.
I respct you valid point about the girls today and for the most part it is all good. Also I have no Idea what you mean by make the thumbnail move? or move the needle.? i am sure it has to do with search engine valdation of likes and thumbsup - people think those numbers equate to anything good or positive and they dont. Look at creator content - idiots supporting idiots and most have nothing to do with interesting content- in my opiion
only people in therapy care what other people think -Or keep therapy-level crap for therapy
If you're browsing through the thumbnails on CB (the rooms on the pages) and you see the model in the same position doing the same thing every time you scroll by and she's just sitting there not flashing or dancing or whatever, are you going to click on their room? Probably not. If someone is tipping her to do things and you see various action shots in her thumbnail, you're probably going to click on it. I mean providing she meets the requirements your brain/dick wants, that is.
I'm not talking about thumbs up and thumbs down. I'm not talking about page rank. I'm talking about the image of her room changing because she's doing things.
Ok thanks for the clarification, I did not know, from my perspective I know men are disgusting and vile and nothing will keep some sick ass duds from wanting more more harder bigger... so when I see the fuck machine making pudding or girls making a mess I pass - to each their own
And that's fine but you don't have to denigrate them because they're getting their money. Models rarely, if ever, do anything they aren't willing to do. It's just that simple.
Edit to add: That doesn't include studio models, they do shit all the time they don't want to do because they may get fined for it and that's why I think studios are bad.
yes my issue is with these studios /. I can tell the girls are compromised I cant believe that CB or other places dont regulate or lay down some rules - Its mostly in other countries I know
If they're breaking the TOS, they'll get slapped down. There are tons of posts on here from studio "owners" who have models that were banned for violations. There's nothing in TOS that says someone else can't type for you.
Wow, you're very lucky that EVERY business you've ever dealt with has been 100% transparent to you about all aspects of their operations, including human resources, accounting, waste management, cybersecurity, marketing, contractors, acquisitions, etc. But it must be a lot of work for you to even buy an apple without having to review the entire history of the people and corporations responsible for that apple ending up where you can purchase it.
Smoker your obviously involved with your insight on the subject but your assumptions about me are kinda lame. from reading other guest concerns this operator involvement is something paying customers have a problem with.Not just me. I do not see how me having issue with an unknown hidden person speaking, responding and directing a person your having intimate one to one discussion with about what is basically business transactions is a problem, " every business i have ever dealt with has been 100% transparent"? I dont think I said anything close to that. And by the way this is not about an apple or a cup of lemon aid at a corner stand. This is huge business taking big money.
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Thank you for the info , It seems maybe it should be posted or better understood.
You're fucking deranged and display a level of ignorance to how the cam industry works that is insane.
If you visit a cam studio, and like I say, particularly in Latin America, then there are going to be operators. A room with a wall of screens and a bunch of men and women (and yes, there are dudes there, and despite what the model tells you, they aren't all gay). There are numerous articles available that show the interior of these studios, particularly in place like Medellin. It's normal, and it's not nefarious. It's to protect the models form assholes, to ensure that they have everything they need, and in some cases to help with translation. If you don't want that then find an independent model.
Getting all pissy about standard practise in the industry is a challenging wank to say the least. Get over yourself.
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I think it's fair to have a personal preference for no room operator. I would too. I don't think it's fair to assume they are all "vice and scum", I'm sure plenty are normal dudes just working to earn a living, trying to be helpful.
For me its not about having a 3rd-party person involved; I'm fine with that. It's about that not being immediately identifiable and out in the open. It's allowed on sites, but I would prefer to avoid those rooms too. Just because it feels weird and a bit icky to some of us, that it would be something you have to guess about. I'm fine that it's allowed, but I think it should be out in the open upfront. Plenty of guys and women are gonna prefer a 3rd person there, so they won't lose business being open about it. Just feels kinda tricksterish to have it be kinda hidden, and having to guess.
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The only thing you said that was adult 'was "if you dont want that then find an independent model." Im not deranged nor insane and I been doing this long enough to have met my share of models who have been screwed over by the owners. Im not pissy . if its standard practice why the secret just introduce themselves. Those that care could leave the others business as usuall.
because it's bad for business to be that up front. the truth is that a huge percentage of people won't even notice or care until it's blatantly pointed out, so it's best just to leave it behind the green curtain. the handful of people like you who think more into it than most are the minority, and catering to the minority isn't good business.
I'm still not understanding what your problem is though. I'm well aware that you are not the OP but I still don't know what you are getting your knickers in a twist about. It's a fucking open secret that there are monitors in cam studios. You'd also have to be an idiot to believe that every cam model is single and there's not a boyfriend or husband in the next physical room or even keeping an eye on the stream. The idea that you are at any time completely alone is a myth. My god, she could go private with you on Chaturbate and remain streaming in public in Stripchat for instance. She isn't supposed to but it's common practice.
And as for why she isn't up front that there's a guy in the background? Do you actually need us to answer that question? Your reaction here is why. Because it's either an erection killer or it results in a reaction like yours. Neither is desirable nor worth the fucking aggravation.
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