Am i being unreasonable with my price for a show

[neneko]

Hi everyone! SO happy to have aplace where i can get advice!!! Ive been camming for about 6 days now (i know not long at all) and i was just wondering if 2000 for a show is unreasonable, i get a few guys complaining that it is, and actually had one guy suggest i do shows for 200 tokens! AHA! Now i know im new but i felt that was good compensation for putting myself out there like there like that, i would feel used/degraded to do a public show for anything less (i say start out how you can hold out).Am i being stuck up or....? Ive actually done a public show for around 1500 before (but i told myself i didnt want to, but i fell to the pressure of guys there :'( (stupid me)

And another question when a guy takes me to private what do i say to him at first? do we go over what he wants or should i just start masturbating to a chatting screen (which i what ive done) how do you interact with someone you cannot hear or see (i already suck at talking dirty, i rather have the guy tell me what to say and do as im a submissive person.

 

[lovecat]

1. You should set your countdown to what YOU feel comfortable doing. Don't let the cheap bastards telly you any different!

2. I myself prefer to talk about a private before being taken on one. You can just ask people who try to initiate private to PM you first.

 

[LacieLaPlante]

2000 tokens seems reasonable to me. Especially if you're new - If you can make the goal, it's not high. Don't listen to people. If you make it really quickly, raise the price.

In relation to privates, I always talk to guys first and ask what they'd like to see. Then I say, if I'm not doing something you like or you'd like me to switch it up please let me know - I'm not a mind reader.

 

[LindseyDoll]

I don't think that's unreasonable at all. The guys who say it is are being cheap. They will always try to get more for less.
Just stick to what you think you're worth, and eventually someone will be willing to pay it :thumbleft:

Don't let members determine how much you charge or you'll get locked into cheap shows and never be able to raise your prices back up.

 

[NoelleBright]

When I first started I did shows for 2000 tokens not even including my naked countdown.
There's ALWAYS going to be someone who will complain that your prices are too high. I guarantee you could put a show countdown up for only 200 tokens and someone would still complain that it's too expensive. Just remember that you won't ever get very much from people who complain about things like that, so I really wouldn't pander to their needs too much.

 

[mynameisbob84]

It's not unreasonable. I've seen shows have lower countdowns and I've seen shows have higher countdowns. It just comes down to what works for you. No matter what your countdown is, you'll always have people tell you it's too high because they want a free/cheap show.
The only reason to lower it would be if you're continually starting a countdown and not finishing it. Then you might look at making it a little lower until you get enough regulars to be able to make higher countdowns for shows and ensure you actually get to do the show at the end of it.

 

[Anonymous]

Well shit. I appear to have fucked up when I first joined :lol:
Honey if you can make it work, great!
All it comes down to is..
1. Set it to what you're comfortable with.
2. If it works for you.

Also, just a tip, if you're not getting much, log off.
It'll kill your camscore (hell, look at mine).

 

[Crumb]

in regards to the private question

the models always say hi to me first thing even if I've conversed about it in PM beforehand
and it usually flows from there
if you haven't PM'd beforehand, imho, you have every right to sit there and talk to him " hi, what did you want to see today" type of things because, just maybe, he doesn't want to see masturbation.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

2000 is not low!

The only suggestion I might have for you is simply to make sure that doing a large countdown, you are keeping them interested while chipping away at it. Give them a game to tip for, or something little (music choice, a dance every 200? etc). Giving out picture galleries for tips is another incentive.. but you could do anything you're comfy with.

As a new model you will be preyed on by a certain type of member that looks for new girls and tries to convince them they are doing it 'wrong' in an effort to control you. Don't let them!!!! If in DOUBT ask us here!

You can also consider breaking the count up. This works well for me.

I'll put in my topic "900 for Nekkie! Then 2000 for cum!"

I run both counts at the same time - so someone tips 100 - it becomes "800 for nekkie! then 1900 for cum!" it just makes it seem more achievable.

Hope this helps, welcome to mfc

And remember - there are MANY models who have successfully cammed without doing a single public cum show. Or even taking their clothes off. It may be HARDER .. but if its what you're comfortable with and you can be creative in other ways to keep their attention - do eet!

 

[IsabellaSnow]

It depends how it works for you/who's in there! When I was a new model I got this all the time, guys tried making me feel really bad about my prices etc, some tried making me feel bad about wearing the wrong sort of clothes/too many clothes, comparing me to other girls. Don't listen to them, like the other girls have said, they're just trying to get free shows and probably wouldn't tip you anything even if the show was for 200 tokens (which is waaay too cheap!).

When I started I got lots of privates but I struggled to make tips before I got decent regulars. So I did start with lower countdowns than I do now, and then you slowly move them up. Generally you always want to finish a countdown, because it ends everything on a good note and shows do bring people in and make many stick around after, so if the countdown's not running as smoothly maybe do lower the price. Doing it in lots of countdowns is often the best way, so topless, naked, maybe oil show, then cumshow. 2000 for a countdown is still a fairly long way and deters a lot of people if it's all in one go and you're not a model they 'know'.

You'll find what works for you, just don't let the trolls make you feel you're being too expensive etc, they're idiots and are to be ignored. Don't let any of them try to tell you how to do your job, they may watch cam girls, but they have no idea how it really works!

http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Isabella_deL

 

[neneko]

THank you guys soooo much :'D i will see if i can do it, and if i HAVE to lower it well(it would be crushing) i guess i have no choice. But if i really feel like im not getting what im worth i just wont do it. Its just im already nervous as hell so i really dont want to feel cheated along with that.

 

[HoldItNow]

As others have pointed out, there are members that will try to convince you that you're charging too much. They're not much different than the guys who hang out at bus stations in big cities who look for teenage runaways to abuse. They'll challenge your prices, offer to "show you the ropes" and all kinds of predatory behaviour.

Stick with what you're comfortable with and you'll find your way.

 

[Evvie]

As others have pointed out, there are members that will try to convince you that you're charging too much. They're not much different than the guys who hang out at bus stations in big cities who look for teenage runaways to abuse. They'll challenge your prices, offer to "show you the ropes" and all kinds of predatory behaviour.

Stick with what you're comfortable with and you'll find your way.

I might argue that men wanting a cheaper price on porn do not necessarily want to rape teenagers, but I applaud your balls. Take your shots where you can get them, I always say.

 

[SoTxBob]

From the financing side of the screen... 2000 isn't bad at all as long as the content matches the price. That meaning a girl that offers a 'show' for 2k won't have many happy campers if its 4 minutes long after a 2 hour countdown. There are many many things that can fill sexy time so its not like it needs to be a bangfest either.

As said also, smaller chunks to the whole total are much easier to take than one huge countdown amount. Even add an extra piece or 2 of clothing and then tip them off individually. I have witnessed and been part of a room many times where a single topic amount of ~3000 was barely touched.
The next night, same people and room, was easily taken several thousand over the original huge amount by tipping small chunks for shirt off, bra off, pants, panties, finger play, oil show, cum show, shower show, etc etc.... You don't want to scare off potential players in your room with "sticker shock".
You can have many smaller tip things going on simultaneously as well if the naked goal thing isn't your deal. Good luck ! :thumbleft:

 

[mynameisbob84]

They're not much different than the guys who hang out at bus stations in big cities who look for teenage runaways to abuse.

Um... they're might be a teeny, tiny difference between bartering on the price of an MFC show and raping a teenage runaway, ya know? :?

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I might argue that men wanting a cheaper price on porn do not necessarily want to rape teenagers, but I applaud your balls. Take your shots where you can get them, I always say.

PMSL!!!

Also don't let it get to you if you do lower the countdown, my camscore is around 2700-3000 average room count 50-200, usually around 150 if I'm not falling asleep, and I push it having 2000 as my cumshow countdown, sometimes it goes down easily and very quickly if I have regulars, but if my regulars aren't around/don't have money, I very rarely manage to meet the same countdowns.
As you're new there's an element of trust in it, if they don't know what they're getting they'll be more cautious to tip the big amount.
I felt the same when I started, that if I lowered my price it'd somehow I don't know, lower my standards maybe? But it actually doesn't work like that, because in the room you're asking for lots of guys to contribute, but generally 80%+ of the room count are freeloaders, if you're still new and don't have a very busy room yet, you're putting it down to like one or two people to tip the countdown, with public shows it's usually just mass tipping that finishes big countdowns.

 

[neneko]

As others have pointed out, there are members that will try to convince you that you're charging too much. They're not much different than the guys who hang out at bus stations in big cities who look for teenage runaways to abuse. They'll challenge your prices, offer to "show you the ropes" and all kinds of predatory behaviour.

Stick with what you're comfortable with and you'll find your way.

I translated this into "they will try to take advantage of you in what they see as a vulnerable state (new and inexperienced model)"

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lol thats what i got from that too

 

[neneko]

As you're new there's an element of trust in it, if they don't know what they're getting they'll be more cautious to tip the big amount.
I felt the same when I started, that if I lowered my price it'd somehow I don't know, lower my standards maybe? But it actually doesn't work like that, because in the room you're asking for lots of guys to contribute, but generally 80%+ of the room count are freeloaders, if you're still new and don't have a very busy room yet, you're putting it down to like one or two people to tip the countdown, with public shows it's usually just mass tipping that finishes big countdowns.

yeah that makes sense, ill try to not see it as me lowering my standards :/ just hard not to feel that way lol but your explanation does rationalize it

 

[Anonymous]

Neneko, I like your Reese's shirt!

Now I want some chocolate.....

 

[HoldItNow]

I might argue that men wanting a cheaper price on porn do not necessarily want to rape teenagers, but I applaud your balls. Take your shots where you can get them, I always say.

Sometimes you have to dress it up a little for the purposes of amusement.

 

[Jaydenrainey]

im just gonna say what everyone else is saying and say that 2000 is totally reasonable! If you have a fairly large room it should be pretty achievable. The guys who bitch are the ones you don't want as regs anyway. if they think 200 dollars between a whole room of people is asking for a lot to watch a pretty girl orgasm they are dumb and probably haven't seen 200 dollars in their own bank account in a while lol. I dot work mfc anymore but on the site i work i lowered my show prices ridiculously low to get traffic and it ended with me getting harassed by unappreciative assholes. After that i switched my prices WAY higher and couldn't be happier with it. I learned then that for every douche who says "thats too spensive bb" there will be two people who totally think my prices are reasonable. If you think your worth it everyone else will agree.

 

[Julia_Storm]

Hi everyone! SO happy to have aplace where i can get advice!!! Ive been camming for about 6 days now (i know not long at all) and i was just wondering if 2000 for a show is unreasonable, i get a few guys complaining that it is, and actually had one guy suggest i do shows for 200 tokens! AHA! Now i know im new but i felt that was good compensation for putting myself out there like there like that, i would feel used/degraded to do a public show for anything less (i say start out how you can hold out).Am i being stuck up or....? Ive actually done a public show for around 1500 before (but i told myself i didnt want to, but i fell to the pressure of guys there :'( (stupid me)

And another question when a guy takes me to private what do i say to him at first? do we go over what he wants or should i just start masturbating to a chatting screen (which i what ive done) how do you interact with someone you cannot hear or see (i already suck at talking dirty, i rather have the guy tell me what to say and do as im a submissive person.

I usually do a toy cumshow at the price of my camscore times 2...once once guy told me 600is too expensive...do not consider what they say...just ask whatever u think is worth to make u fell good abt yourself.
I usually say hi...what would u like me to do or just start whatever kind of masturbation i want atm.
U just write him i did that..worked out nice...dirty talking, still put it in letters if he insists on it.

 

[MiaMeow]

Show prices are sort of a sliding scale, depending on how hot you are, how popular you are and how good your shows are. My shows are priced at 800 because that's a price I know I can get and takes a reasonable amount of time (not super quick, but not hours either).

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Show prices are sort of a sliding scale, depending on how hot you are, how popular you are and how good your shows are. My shows are priced at 800 because that's a price I know I can get and takes a reasonable amount of time (not super quick, but not hours either).

This is a Necro thread...but ummmmmmm no...show prices dont necessarily have anything to do with how 'hot' you are.


my personal plan is to offer relatively low prices to get to a show in most cases, and the tips will be made during hte show as they will have things they can tip for. It works great for me, and I consider myself fairly popular.

Popularity matters - as it controls room count. The more people in your room with tokens or the ability to buy tokens, the more chance you can get more tokens out of them.

But 'hotness' and 'how good your show is' is entirely up to the audience, and there is an audience for almost everyone.

 

[Evvie]

Show prices are sort of a sliding scale, depending on how hot you are, how popular you are and how good your shows are. My shows are priced at 800 because that's a price I know I can get and takes a reasonable amount of time (not super quick, but not hours either).

I agree that models should be realistic about how they price their shows, but I'm more with Lolli on this. Camming is a skill that takes work to perfect, just like any other skill in the world. Being "hot" doesn't have much to do with it. How popular you are and the popularity of your shows are a reflection of your camming skill.

There are thousands of women on MFC who barely make minimum wage and are drop-dead gorgeous, and thousands of women that make great money but aren't traditionally Western culture 'hot'.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

also a niche model may actually be able to get MORE for a show simply because of its scarcity. Thats not to say its 'good' but say I'm doing a spit fetish show in public chat, or an extreme breast torture show..... these arent things you can see every 3rd cam down the list. If I have managed to get the fetishists interest - then I could make MORE than some of the very hot shows that almost everyone enjoys.

Sometimes, a countdown will be specific to someone in the room who you know is willing to tip a large amount of money for a specific fetish related show.

Sometimes it makes no sense of all.