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First of all, new to the forum, so hello!

I'm having a dilemma and could really use some advice from members and models alike.

Right.. So here it goes...

I've visited cam sites occasionally over the past few years. Its always been purely sexual. Now, I've only been on MFC for about 3 months, and its become my favorite cam site. Of course private messaging makes things different as you can actually have private conversations with models. Sure, I like to play on cam with girls, but I also enjoy a little conversation and hanging out. A couple of weeks ago, I began talking to a Romanian girl (i'm American btw). She's not like most models I talk to. We have alot in common with music, we both have a similar sense of humor. We have fun talking, or least I do and I "think" she does too. I have a cam, and we talk cam to cam for hours sometimes. She tells me she is attracted to me, and I'm definitely attracted to her. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm starting to get emotional over her. I find myself thinking about her when I'm not online. We've spent hours and hours talking. I tip her fairly well, but nothing extravigant. So lately our conversations have turned more and more to talking about meeting each other and being with each other. But I have my doubts. For one, I wonder is she being real with me. She says she is. But I've heard stories of girls taking advantage of guys on MFC, so my guard is up and I have so many doubts. I keep wondering if she is setting me up to be another tipping regular or could there really be something here?

Now, I'm not desperate. I think I'm a nice looking guy. I'm in my mid 30's (she's in her mid 20's btw) and I'm a single dad with custody of my daughter. Over the past few years I haven't been very social or done much dating. There is no doubt that I'm lonely at times. I just don't know what to think of it all. I never thought I would fall for a girl online.. let alone one from Romania on an adult cam site! So I need advice here. Could this be real? Am I being con'd? Does this happen alot? Do modeals actually fall for members? I'm just really confused right now, and wondering if I should cut all strings before I fall head over heels ( i'm already close). She's so awesome.

Your advice and comments are appreciated in advance.
 
I can't say whether folk getting conned is a regular occurrence but I will say that there's one of these threads posted almost every week (and strangely, the model in question is invariably Romanian). I'd suggest not rushing into anything and to approach the situation with caution, ya know? Sure, models do sometimes fall for members but it's (as far as I can tell) exceptionally rare. If she starts talking about her finances, needing money for rent, owing money, etc., then you can probably hazard a guess she's more interested in money than she is a relationship. But you never know... :twocents-02cents:
 
Hank, if she's a studio model, there is a possibility that she is being coached as to what she says.

On the other hand - members go to MFC to escape to a fantasy world where beautiful women are their friends. I imagine many models fantasize that a handsome member from across the world will sweep them away.

Models do fall for members. There are several models on this forum who have married, fallen in love with, and met members.

However, it does not happen as often as you might like.

Is she conning you? Someone can be legitimate in their emotions yet still never follow through.

What do you consider a con to be? That she is lying to you about wanting to meet you? That she takes your money and not repay you?

Don't send her money over Paypal, Payoneer, or whatever for travel expenses. Just assume you are never going to meet her (and how would that work, anyway? Is she going to move to America? How is she going to afford that? How is she going to get a visa? Are you going to marry her so she can stay in the country?).

All this talk may just be wistful thinking on both ends. But it doesn't mean your relationship isn't emotionally real. Just don't succumb to "Well I'm free Janurary 2013 I only need $1500 to pay my bills and fly to America and I don't know how I can afford that :(" nonsense.
 
mynameisbob84 said:
I can't say whether folk getting conned is a regular occurrence but I will say that there's one of these threads posted almost every week (and strangely, the model in question is invariably Romanian). I'd suggest not rushing into anything and to approach the situation with caution, ya know? Sure, models do sometimes fall for members but it's (as far as I can tell) exceptionally rare. If she starts talking about her finances, needing money for rent, owing money, etc., then you can probably hazard a guess she's more interested in money than she is a relationship. But you never know... :twocents-02cents:

The thing is i'm usually more of a sceptic about this sort of thing than anyone else. And I've talked to many many girls on MFC. It just seemed like something clicked. Maybe I just need a reality check so thanks for your input. Nothing has come up about finances. That was sort of where I thought things would go, and there has been plenty of opportunity for the conversation to arise, but it hasn't in the slightest form.

I looked for other posts for a few pages. Couldn't find one if you could link it up. COuld be the same girl :lol: :banghead:

Airwolfe said:
The site is myfreecams.com not eharmony.com. Don't forget where you are at.
Oh trust me I know man. My thoughts as well.. hince the thread
 
HankDank said:
First of all, new to the forum, so hello!

I'm having a dilemma and could really use some advice from members and models alike.

Right.. So here it goes...

I've visited cam sites occasionally over the past few years. Its always been purely sexual. Now, I've only been on MFC for about 3 months, and its become my favorite cam site. Of course private messaging makes things different as you can actually have private conversations with models. Sure, I like to play on cam with girls, but I also enjoy a little conversation and hanging out. A couple of weeks ago, I began talking to a Romanian girl (i'm American btw). She's not like most models I talk to. We have alot in common with music, we both have a similar sense of humor. We have fun talking, or least I do and I "think" she does too. I have a cam, and we talk cam to cam for hours sometimes. She tells me she is attracted to me, and I'm definitely attracted to her. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm starting to get emotional over her. I find myself thinking about her when I'm not online. We've spent hours and hours talking. I tip her fairly well, but nothing extravigant. So lately our conversations have turned more and more to talking about meeting each other and being with each other. But I have my doubts. For one, I wonder is she being real with me. She says she is. But I've heard stories of girls taking advantage of guys on MFC, so my guard is up and I have so many doubts. I keep wondering if she is setting me up to be another tipping regular or could there really be something here?

Now, I'm not desperate. I think I'm a nice looking guy. I'm in my mid 30's (she's in her mid 20's btw) and I'm a single dad with custody of my daughter. Over the past few years I haven't been very social or done much dating. There is no doubt that I'm lonely at times. I just don't know what to think of it all. I never thought I would fall for a girl online.. let alone one from Romania on an adult cam site! So I need advice here. Could this be real? Am I being con'd? Does this happen alot? Do modeals actually fall for members? I'm just really confused right now, and wondering if I should cut all strings before I fall head over heels ( i'm already close). She's so awesome.

Your advice and comments are appreciated in advance.

more guys than are willing to admit it have faced your dilemma, hank....but many don't face it as soon as you have :thumbleft:
a couple of things come to mind....first, regarding your skepticism: you're right to have it.

only you can answer what the difference is between "tipping her fairly well" and extravagance, but you seem like a guy who understands that she's working, so i would assume that you are paying for all the time you are taking from her work to engage her in PM....i say that because my guess is also that YOU know that your paying for it, and that's a part of what makes you wonder about the truth of your relationship

which is not to say that you (and she) aren't having a really good time, based on your similar personalities.....but you've know this woman three months in her working environment, and every model i know would LOVE to have a relationship that is so friendly and easy, particularly if it respects the fact that she's working.

having said that -and without a clue about the particulars of your "let's meet in real" talks.....there is no substitute for reality when it comes to relationships....it separates the wheat from the chaff real quick....sure, there are plenty of emotional and financial horror stories around about these fabled rendezvous: my only concern, quite frankly, is for your kid (but that's my own thing and deserves a back burner for now)

the bottom line for me is this: you've talked "for hours"....about music at least :lol: but about enough stuff to have identified any questionable aspects of her "online persona", if your concerned is being scammed....so does your concern come from the horror stories of others, or from something between the two of you? if it's from something between the two of you, then....three months is nothing....give it time...consider what it means to be "a special guy in my room" and talk to her about that.

if your doubts are because of what you've heard from others....well...caution is always a good thing (unless it's about saving a life), but i'd say....trust your instincts
:twocents-02cents:
 
Evvie said:
Hank, if she's a studio model, there is a possibility that she is being coached as to what she says.

On the other hand - members go to MFC to escape to a fantasy world where beautiful women are their friends. I imagine many models fantasize that a handsome member from across the world will sweep them away.

Models do fall for members. There are several models on this forum who have married, fallen in love with, and met members.

However, it does not happen as often as you might like.

Is she conning you? Someone can be legitimate in their emotions yet still never follow through.

What do you consider a con to be? That she is lying to you about wanting to meet you? That she takes your money and not repay you?

Don't send her money over Paypal, Payoneer, or whatever for travel expenses. Just assume you are never going to meet her (and how would that work, anyway? Is she going to move to America? How is she going to afford that? How is she going to get a visa? Are you going to marry her so she can stay in the country?).

All this talk may just be wistful thinking on both ends. But it doesn't mean your relationship isn't emotionally real. Just don't succumb to "Well I'm free Janurary 2013 I only need $1500 to pay my bills and fly to America and I don't know how I can afford that :(" nonsense.

Well we instant message alot outside of MFC, and I don't think she's in a studio. Looks like her apartment to me. She tells me her feelings for me alot. I guess thats what I don't understand. And I feel like I'm a good judge of character. Can usually spot someone fake a mile away. And no way I would send money. I'm not stupid. I'd say I've given her about 1000 tokens over a couple of weeks. She's never asked me for a tip. But you're right. We're half way across the world from each other anyways. I think I've been in fantasy land. I"m just going to lighten up the convo and start prowling MFC again haha. I think I needed a reality check. Thanks.
 
HankDank said:
Well we instant message alot outside of MFC
another piece to the puzzle
and I don't think she's in a studio. Looks like her apartment to me
how can you not know that?....sorry, but it'd be the one the first things i'd ask about :whistle:
I think I've been in fantasy land. I"m just going to lighten up the convo and start prowling MFC again haha. I think I needed a reality check. Thanks.
i'm leaning this way, as well
 
bob said:
how can you not know that?....sorry, but it'd be the one the first things i'd ask about :whistle:

well, as i said, i'm not new to camming. and its not usually too hard to spot a studio even the ones that pretends to NOT be studios haha.. plus she moves around her apartment.. seen her in bedroom and living room, and she told me she lives with her roommate.

already feeling a bit more clear headed about the situation. i must have some hormone inbalance or mid life crisis going on. :violin:
 
HankDank said:
bob said:
how can you not know that?....sorry, but it'd be the one the first things i'd ask about :whistle:

well, as i said, i'm not new to camming. and its not usually too hard to spot a studio even the ones that pretends to NOT be studios haha.. plus she moves around her apartment.. seen her in bedroom and living room, and she told me she lives with her roommate.

already feeling a bit more clear headed about the situation. i must have some hormone inbalance or mid life crisis going on. :violin:
Not all studio models literally work from a studio :) I'm not arguing that she is a studio model because that really doesn't matter. The majority of studios do not seem to have physical locations.
 
3 months is a short period and that you are not sure about if she is a studio worker or independent is a sign that you don't know her well enough.

It's a fact that lots and lots of Romanian young folks are leaving that country for work or for love. Economics, politics and so, its a mess there, I have the idea there is a collective thought like "We must get out". Her feelings could be more driven by the idea of starting a new life then for you personally. I know a Romanian model that is now living in the US, her Facebook postings are more about the US life she has now then about her man ...

So, that are some warnings, now the romantic part :-)

DON'T LET THIS GO ! You have something great going, invest in it ! enyoy it ! You can tell so much more after a meeting in real life then from forum threads like this.
 
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HankDank said:
She's not like most models I talk to.
:laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-lettersrofl: Sorry Hank, not saying she isn't. Don't know what I am saying, or why I burst out laughing when I got to this. Just struck me like that for some reason.

I'll finish reading your post, right after I pee, BRB...
 
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I'm starting to think we need a "Does she really love me?" section...

No offence Hank. Human emotions are very powerful but like Bob said, it seems we have one every week. There is always a possibility that something can develop when two humans interact with eachother. I however am of the mind set that if it doesn't fit under the 'No longer paying, she started it, it's been a long time coming' blanket, it's likely not real. :twocents-02cents:

But what the fuck do I know?
 
No, you're not thinking logical and yes, you have lost your mind.

But that's not necessarily a bad thing. We've all been illogical and lost our minds at one point or another. Without that, some great pairings would never have happened.

Follow your instincts, follow your heart, proceed with caution.
 
JoleneJolene said:
I'm starting to think we need a "Does she really love me?" section...

No offence Hank. Human emotions are very powerful but like Bob said, it seems we have one every week. There is always a possibility that something can develop when two humans interact with eachother. I however am of the mind set that if it doesn't fit under the 'No longer paying, she started it, it's been a long time coming' blanket, it's likely not real. :twocents-02cents:

But what the fuck do I know?

sure. i'm not asking if she loves me though? i think i was curious if it happens much.. figured since this forum is both models and members of MFC it would be a good place start. i might be single and i might be going through some emotional crap right now, but i don't think she's out of league. i get told i'm nice looking on and off cam. i get laid or used to when i actually socialized. she's never asked for tips. when i do tip her she asks why and tells me i don't have to. i know she's there to work. i'm taking her time so i feel better giving her a few tips. i've gone a few days of talking steady without tipping. anyways, i'm not jumping to defense of me or her.. i'm just saying. i'm not amazed that she could like me.i'm amazed that i'm actually getting emotional. and in the back of my head I say to myself am i getting emotionally invested in this while she tries to figure out a way to attempt to scam me (thats the skeptic in me). which i wouldn't fall for anyways haha
 
I have to ask is this just some kind of fetish for some men to talk about? I am starting to feel like I am being used, and not even getting a reach around.

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HankDank said:
She's not like most models I talk to.
:laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-lettersrofl: Sorry Hank, not saying she isn't. Don't know what I am saying, or why I burst out laughing when I got to this. Just struck me like that for some reason.

I'll finish reading your post, right after I pee, BRB...
Well, it is funny to me too, but not in a "let's mock that guy" way at all, what I mean is, how is "She's not like most models I talk to" any different from "she's not like any girl I've ever met", it's the same thing: all models are different, all girls are different, but when you utter that line, you know you've got a crush on your hands....
I can't tell if the girl is sincere or not. I'm the kind of person who always lean to the "benefit of the doubt" side of things: keep your brain in check but see how things evolve, I don't know this person, and she's a human being, so anything is possible..... but it's true that I've seen these sorts of threads around a lot.
I have to ask: are Romanians less (or more??) emotional people than the rest of the world? Why is it always "this Romanian model" ?? Are they more cunning or do they fall in love easier? I wonder...
ETA: we've had a thread somewhere recently about how "normal, decent guys" stand out a LOT in contrast against the standard MFC douche whose vocabulary extends to "show inside asshole bb" at the max, so I haven't started camming yet (awaiting HD cam ^^) but i'm fairly certain you can get warm fuzzies pretty easily from a normal person speaking to you like you're a human being, while on cam. That may be a factor , too , right? Mainly asking the seasoned girls here.
 
Shaun__ said:
I have to ask is this just some kind of fetish for some men to talk about? I am starting to feel like I am being used, and not even getting a reach around.

cute sign but not sure what you mean by this?
 
If nothing else, this thread has made me think about it a bit more logically so thanks.. jabs at me and all ;)
 
Just to give a warning, if she really wants to meet up with you, have her come to you. Will it be expensive for her? Yes, but it would be just as expensive for you to go to her.

In my own experience, I had gotten really into talking to a girl from a dating site who lived in Miami. For months we talked online (and we were both on cam the whole time), texted, and talked on the phone. We decided to meet up, so I made plans to go down to her. 2 weeks before I went down, she started asking if I could change the dates... I was like, no, everything is non-refundable at this point. She gave me a story that her old neighbors were coming to visit, blah blah, so it would be beter if I could postpone. And we had these plans set in stone for over a month by this point.

But, I went down. And spent 5 days in Miami (3 of which it poured...). Out of those 5 days, she spent a grand total of 5 hours with me. The one night we went out to dinner she said she had to be home semi-early to do something at a car dealership the next morning, so when I texted her the following afternoon to see if she was coming to the hotel I was at, she said she was too hungover, that when she got home some friends had stopped over and had bought a PPV boxing match and she ended up getting super drunk with them. I didn't see her for two more days... when she picked me up to take me to the airport.

She tried texting me for a month or so after that, but I didn't talk to her. It wasn't the over $800 I spent on the trip that bothered me. It was the 5 days of my life I wasted. The fact that she left me after dinner, saying she really needed to do something the next morning and she'd be back later the next day, and then got so fucking sloshed at her home that she couldn't even get out of bed the next morning.

So, honestly, I say make the girl come to you if she really wants to meet. And I don't care if it's a cam model or a girl from another state on a dating site. Because I will NEVER be put in that situation again. And I don't wish any similar situation on anyone else.
 
It makes me a little uncomfortable when I see these threads. It feels like the underlying question being asked is, "Are camgirls capable of feeling emotion, or is everything that comes out of their mouths a lie?"

To be fair, you asked, "Do models actually fall for members?" The answer is yes, some do. And some don't. Models are capable of falling for members just as they're capable of developing friendships with members, feeling affection for members, or wanting to fuck the shit out of members. They are also capable of being hurt by members, infuriated by members, disgusted and creeped out by members. They can choose to keep everything within strictly professional boundaries so that emotions don't play a role at all, or they can exploit the emotions of others for financial gain. There's no way to generalize what models do or feel because everyone's different and everyone cams differently. There's nothing unique about camming that makes us less complex or individual. You need to use your judgment.

It sounds like you're asking if it's okay to feel something for her - it is. If you're asking if you should let yourself feel something for her, that's a different question. I don't think anyone here can answer that for you.

I think you just need to be sensitive to the fact that camming is a source of income for her. Like others have said, it's not a dating site. Some members seem to think cam sites are catalogues of potential girlfriends and future ex-wives and push for something that isn't being offered, or they'll use the manipulative, douchebag logic of "If you were genuine and truly liked me, I wouldn't have to pay," as if payment and sincerity were mutually exclusive. (We hear about members who've been manipulated by camgirls, but we don't usually hear about the camgirls who've been manipulated by members.)

Know that if you fall for her, you might develop expectations she can't fulfill, just as she might develop expectations you can't fulfill. Or it could be an amazing connection.

Whatever happens, you need to respect the boundaries she defines. If it goes well, that's beautiful. And if it goes badly, it doesn't make you an idiot for feeling something. It just means that you saw a camgirl as more than the sum of her well-shaped parts.
 
just my personal note on loving a cam lady: i dont let myself love beyond that of friendship, but i hate long distance shit. im already doing it with my current paramour, and i hate it. but at least there it started out with geographic proximity. a large part of a relationship, of love is the closeness... why would i accept a relationship that doesnt allow for that?

that being said, feeling affection, friendliness, love for a model isnt bad, isnt wrong, it just isnt logical. the same goes for the models on their end.
 
Alexandra Cole said:
It makes me a little uncomfortable when I see these threads. It feels like the underlying question being asked is, "Are camgirls capable of feeling emotion, or is everything that comes out of their mouths a lie?"

To be fair, you asked, "Do models actually fall for members?" The answer is yes, some do. And some don't. Models are capable of falling for members just as they're capable of developing friendships with members, feeling affection for members, or wanting to fuck the shit out of members. They are also capable of being hurt by members, infuriated by members, disgusted and creeped out by members. They can choose to keep everything within strictly professional boundaries so that emotions don't play a role at all, or they can exploit the emotions of others for financial gain. There's no way to generalize what models do or feel because everyone's different and everyone cams differently. There's nothing unique about camming that makes us less complex or individual. You need to use your judgment.

It sounds like you're asking if it's okay to feel something for her - it is. If you're asking if you should let yourself feel something for her, that's a different question. I don't think anyone here can answer that for you.

I think you just need to be sensitive to the fact that camming is a source of income for her. Like others have said, it's not a dating site. Some members seem to think cam sites are catalogues of potential girlfriends and future ex-wives and push for something that isn't being offered, or they'll use the manipulative, douchebag logic of "If you were genuine and truly liked me, I wouldn't have to pay," as if payment and sincerity were mutually exclusive. (We hear about members who've been manipulated by camgirls, but we don't usually hear about the camgirls who've been manipulated by members.)

Know that if you fall for her, you might develop expectations she can't fulfill, just as she might develop expectations you can't fulfill. Or it could be an amazing connection.

Whatever happens, you need to respect the boundaries she defines. If it goes well, that's beautiful. And if it goes badly, it doesn't make you an idiot for feeling something. It just means that you saw a camgirl as more than the sum of her well-shaped parts.
Well when I read through your post Hank there were lots that came to mind. Everything has been said that I might think to say, and this post from Miss Cole sums it up rather nicely I think.
 
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well i've decided to put a stop to it. or least to the way i've been thinking. all a bit of a fairy tale now that i really think about it. way too many what if's. my first cam girl crush. the cherry has been popped wide open.

i asked her today about the studio. she told me she did work for a studio but is independent now. i pretty much told her i want to be her friend still and i wish her the best but i think its been a big fairy tale. she's stood her ground saying how much she really likes me and that her feelings are real. and maybe there are to an extent, but realistically its a bad idea to even consider.

to be quite frank, i'm not the must trusting person in the world anyways. if there is doubt, i tend to dwell on them. if anything, it's made me realize that i'm getting too soft.. time to put back on my game face and move along.
 
HankDank said:
Shaun__ said:
I have to ask is this just some kind of fetish for some men to talk about? I am starting to feel like I am being used, and not even getting a reach around.

cute sign but not sure what you mean by this?

At least once a month someone comes in asking the same thing about a Romanian model. You even all sound the same, we could just pick one of those threads at random and sticky it. Then when one of you guys comes in, we would just point to that thread.
 
Shaun__ said:
HankDank said:
Shaun__ said:
I have to ask is this just some kind of fetish for some men to talk about? I am starting to feel like I am being used, and not even getting a reach around.
cute sign but not sure what you mean by this?
At least once a month someone comes in asking the same thing about a Romanian model. You even all sound the same, we could just pick one of those threads at random and sticky it. Then when one of you guys comes in, we would just point to that thread.
Come on ! Do you remember how you did enter ACF? With lots of drama & emotions about a cam model.

ok ok, you did develop yourself in this area, you are more stable then me now, haha, I did the stupid "delete old ACF account and come back with a stupid name account" thing :-)

But really, I don't think you are the right person to deny others to have emotions about a cam model.
 
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Alexandra Cole said:
It makes me a little uncomfortable when I see these threads. It feels like the underlying question being asked is, "Are camgirls capable of feeling emotion, or is everything that comes out of their mouths a lie?"

To be fair, you asked, "Do models actually fall for members?" The answer is yes, some do. And some don't. Models are capable of falling for members just as they're capable of developing friendships with members, feeling affection for members, or wanting to fuck the shit out of members. They are also capable of being hurt by members, infuriated by members, disgusted and creeped out by members. They can choose to keep everything within strictly professional boundaries so that emotions don't play a role at all, or they can exploit the emotions of others for financial gain. There's no way to generalize what models do or feel because everyone's different and everyone cams differently. There's nothing unique about camming that makes us less complex or individual. You need to use your judgment.

It sounds like you're asking if it's okay to feel something for her - it is. If you're asking if you should let yourself feel something for her, that's a different question. I don't think anyone here can answer that for you.

I think you just need to be sensitive to the fact that camming is a source of income for her. Like others have said, it's not a dating site. Some members seem to think cam sites are catalogues of potential girlfriends and future ex-wives and push for something that isn't being offered, or they'll use the manipulative, douchebag logic of "If you were genuine and truly liked me, I wouldn't have to pay," as if payment and sincerity were mutually exclusive. (We hear about members who've been manipulated by camgirls, but we don't usually hear about the camgirls who've been manipulated by members.)

Know that if you fall for her, you might develop expectations she can't fulfill, just as she might develop expectations you can't fulfill. Or it could be an amazing connection.

Whatever happens, you need to respect the boundaries she defines. If it goes well, that's beautiful. And if it goes badly, it doesn't make you an idiot for feeling something. It just means that you saw a camgirl as more than the sum of her well-shaped parts.

Very well stated, bb :thumbleft:

The only thing I'd add is that is that while, yes, cam girls are people too, capable of falling for any other person and prone to desires of fucking other people and all that jazz; it's evidently very easy for a member to develop feelings for a cam girl but, I would imagine, harder for a cam girl to do the same. And it's not that they're unable to feel real feelings, ya know?
Somebody put it perfectly on this here forum in another thread - "A member sees a beautiful, smart, sexy, independent woman; a cam girl sees words on a screen". It's much easier to fall for the former than it is the latter.
And it's not that it doesn't happen. It's just that for every one cam girl who has ever fallen tits deep in love with a member, there must be thousands, literally thousands of members who have had those same feelings for a cam girl.
It's not that the girl is incapable of feeling things for the member, it's just that it's far more likely the member has developed feeling that the model doesn't share. :twocents-02cents:
 
HankDank said:
well i've decided to put a stop to it.
I don't understand why it must be all or nothing at this moment ? Why do you throw away the good times ?

Why not bring the relation to 'normal' internet? Email, Skype, phone, Facebook, etc.

And if she works on cam, then she works and is not available to you. Like when you work you are not available to her. Ofc not denying her work, thats part of her, her work can/must be a normal conversation subject.

If you do this 'in transit' between the current situation and meeting in real life, then you will still have the good times and learn a lot about the kind of relation you have.
 
In this kind of situations there are a couple of points to consider :

1) Nothing is sure in life and nobody knows about the future, and the worst case in my opinions is to have an open end, will say thinking for the rest of your life " what would have happened if I did meet her....."

2) Nether invest more financially or emotionally than you can afford to lose, I guess relations starting over the internet carry a bit of a higher risk of failure, because mostly there is some distance involved and maybe different countries with different cultures....

My approach is that there are chances you only get once and I don't want to miss them, so I am happy to take some risks and see how it turns out....this means I get a result one way or the other...

:)
 
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