Behavioural Change

[bnaj]

Some couple performers behaviour change suddenly after getting rewarded for months as they become abusive and ignorant to their favourites. Do the high tippers deserve such insult. What's the psychology behind this?

 

[AmberCutie]

 

[MarieElise]

Some couple performers behaviour change suddenly after getting rewarded for months as they become abusive and ignorant to their favourites. Do the high tippers deserve such insult. What's the psychology behind this?

ask them if you gotta problem with them. how we supposed to know what's going on in their individual heads? we do work you know.

 

[bnaj]

ask them if you gotta problem with them. how we supposed to know what's going on in their individual heads? we do work you know.

They don't respond amymore.. Didn't have any sort of problems regarding show . That's why mentioned they got ignorant suddenly. Performers shall be able to say what might be the reason..

 

[AmberCutie]

If you were a big tipper and suddenly the model doesn't seem to want to talk to you anymore, it could mean that your tokens are no longer worth having to put up with your personality. Or that you're no longer tipping enough to justify putting up with you.

 

[Maxi]

They don't respond amymore.. Didn't have any sort of problems regarding show . That's why mentioned they got ignorant suddenly. Performers shall be able to say what might be the reason..

Not responding to someone isn’t classed as abusive behaviour in my book.

 

[bnaj]

It's understandable that performers will have a different views. But someone who was the favourite of running a show single handedly now doesn't have any value is a serious insult and is pretty hurting.. Tippers know their worth every penny.. Atleast they should have this courtsy and sense of respect to tell what went wrong.. Tippers deserve that as they help to run a show..

 

[stormythunder]

It's understandable that performers will have a different views. But someone who was the favourite of running a show single handedly now doesn't have any value is a serious insult and is pretty hurting.. Tippers know their worth every penny.. Atleast they should have this courtsy and sense of respect to tell what went wrong.. Tippers deserve that as they help to run a show..

If you feel its unfair then take your tokens to a different show.

 

[Marceline]

It's understandable that performers will have a different views. But someone who was the favourite of running a show single handedly now doesn't have any value is a serious insult and is pretty hurting.. Tippers know their worth every penny.. Atleast they should have this courtsy and sense of respect to tell what went wrong.. Tippers deserve that as they help to run a show..

Models don’t owe members explanations as to why they don’t want the member around anymore, same as members don’t owe models explanations if they decide to stop visiting their room.

Honestly, if you’re a big tipper and a model doesn’t like you enough to try keeping those tips coming in, it’s highly doubtful they’ll outright say they don’t like you. Why? Because generally, if someone has an off-putting personality to the point where someone doesn’t want to pretend to be nice to them for their money, they are probably also the type of person who will throw a huge fit if you tell them that. A lot of people don’t like confrontation, and will try to avoid it.

That’s how I am. If someone has exhibited a series of unlikable behavior, I will just block or ignore them once I get to the point where I no longer wish to associate with them. It’s not my responsibility to explain to someone why certain things they are doing or saying makes me not want to interact with them.

I legit had to straight up block and ignore someone I was friends with for over a decade, because I could no longer tolerate who he was/became. I didn’t offer any explanations, because I knew with how that person was, he would have thrown a gigantic temper tantrum and I don’t have the time or energy for that.

ETA: Models also have to worry about members retaliating if they do tell them they no longer want them around. You never know how someone will react to that sort of news, so on top of worrying about the member throwing a fit, you also have to worry about whether or not they will try to blow up your spot. It’s easier and safer to just have the member get to the point where they don’t want to stick around anymore and leave on their own.

 

[AudriTwo]

The psychology behind it is that you are probably making her uncomfortable. leave her alone.

 

[rockin_rod]

Being a regular and being a tipper doesn't create entitlement, which often shows up as very controlling behaviour.
That's just exhausting, and most likely a huge turn-off.

 

[bnaj]

mm that's the treatment people get after helping.. Remember performers come and go but tippers remain in the platform to carry forward the industry..

 

[IamGrace]

Maybe you want tell us what was really happening? To talk in general not helps.

 

[yummybrownfox]

mm that's the treatment people get after helping.. Remember performers come and go but tippers remain in the platform to carry forward the industry..

I’m not a huge fan of all this “Help me reach my goal!”…help this, help that talk on cam sites. It makes it sound like you’re donating towards someone’s GoFundMe. Lol. All this “help” talk causes some of you guys to puff your chest out, and be all like “Yeah…I did that! I’m the one that helped her by tipping her 20 tokens in 1-token increments! I’m her hero!”

You probably also helped yourself to lots of ejaculation, thanks to her. You probably helped yourself to all the extra attention you required from her (like blowing up her notifications with a bunch of unnecessary PMs while she’s trying to work…because you’re so special).

And even if none of the above applies, and you are one of those “It’s okay, you can keep your clothes on…I’m just tipping to show appreciation!” guys, at some point you may have done something to become a total nuisance to her.

 

[misterical]

mm that's the treatment people get after helping.. Remember performers come and go but tippers remain in the platform to carry forward the industry..

What a lot of pompous, self-important shite.

 

[bnaj]

So much presumptions from performers side. Still no respect to tippers who are helping. We aren't cheap the way you feel.. It's a mentality to use and throw people when work is done. Anyways good to hear the inner voices from so many people..

 

[LaceyRoyce]

So much presumptions from performers side. Still no respect to tippers who are helping. We aren't cheap the way you feel.. It's a mentality to use and throw people when work is done. Anyways good to hear the inner voices from so many people..

I respect tippers as a whole .. like yes, I am grateful that as a collective they buy my content.

I’m also incredibly grateful to have cultivated a fan base that doesn’t expect me to pander to them like this, or want to be “favorites “ or play these weird games lol. I used to play those games and be a people pleaser with my tippers and I burned out so hard.

Just buy my porn. Jerk off. Enjoy our time together and then go live your life. If you are no longer enjoying your time with me find another model!

And if you are annoying, thankfully, I also have a broad enough customer base that I do not have to entertain poor behavior or even just behavior that is not a good fit for what I do.

 

[SMuser69]

So much presumptions from performers side. Still no respect to tippers who are helping. We aren't cheap the way you feel.. It's a mentality to use and throw people when work is done. Anyways good to hear the inner voices from so many people..

It's a job to produce your fantasy. They let you 'save' them because it's what you WANT for your fantasy, it clearly entertained you for months so they did a good job. There's nothing real in a relationship when money is involved. You can't buy friendship, you can only buy labor. If you want something different there's no shortage of models out there. There's no reason to complain as a customer because there so many models that you'll always find someone that will meet your needs.

Models are people, but you're BUYING a performance not the person and FRIENDLY isn't friendship. You should had learned this life lesson long ago. If you're looking to find true social connections you're going to need to step away from the keyboard and go out to find them.

 

[Marceline]

So much presumptions from performers side. Still no respect to tippers who are helping. We aren't cheap the way you feel.. It's a mentality to use and throw people when work is done. Anyways good to hear the inner voices from so many people..

I seriously do not understand what’s the point of coming here and asking a question, and then getting your panties in a ruffle when answered honestly.

Did you expect us to give you some sort of accolades because you claim to be a big tipper? That we would blindly side with you and talk shit about some models we don’t even know?

We clearly don’t know the full story and have to give advice based on the minimal information we have been given here. From just your op it’s clear this isn’t an isolated event with you, since you asked why “some couple models behavior changes and they become abusive and ignorant after months”. And from your subsequent posts, you come across as entitled, defensive and self righteous. None of which are likable qualities. Based off the available information, the most obvious explanation would be that these multiple models do not want to keep you around, tipper or not.

I know it’s no fun to hear that someone you’ve spent a lot of time and money watching probably no longer wishes to have you around and that’s why they’re no longer being nice to you, but rejection is a part of life. Accept it, move on and don’t stay anywhere your presence isn’t wanted, and perhaps address the underlying reasons as to why this keeps happening if you don’t want it to happen again.

 

[misterical]

So much presumptions from performers side. Still no respect to tippers who are helping. We aren't cheap the way you feel.. It's a mentality to use and throw people when work is done. Anyways good to hear the inner voices from so many people..

Your assumption isn't entirely correct. There are also members here commenting in this thread so your peer group is here judging your behaviour as well.

I view tipping as a momentary thing. You tip what you tip for something at that moment in time. It doesn't entitle you to future concessions or favours, especially if your behaviour becomes less than appealing in the room later.

You could have hundreds of meals in a restaurant over the years but they're still going to throw you out or be less than accommodating if you are rude to the staff at a later date.

 

[Slapstick]

But someone who was the favourite of running a show single handedly now doesn't have any value is a serious insult and is pretty hurting..

Wait.... do you seriously believe that you are "running the show single-handedly"?

You may want to sit down for what I'm about to tell you, because it's going to hurt. You're not running anything. Not even close. Even if you're the only person in her room and the only one tipping for goals you're still not running anything.

I frequent a Pizza shop just down the street and often I am the only person there. The owner is super friendly and is always very happy to see me. But I am under no delusions that I am single-handedly keeping his business afloat. He has revenue streams I am not privy to (they do a booming takeout/delivery business).

So much presumptions from performers side.

Nah dude, it's all of us; performers and viewers alike. Tip. Be nice. And afterward thank the model profusely for her time. The quickest way to piss off a model (here or in her chat room) is to act likely an entitled douche-nozzle, which it sounds like you have done.

 

[Maxi]

He’s a weirdo, who cares?

 

[stormythunder]

I’m not a huge fan of all this “Help me reach my goal!”…help this, help that talk on cam sites. It makes it sound like you’re donating towards someone’s GoFundMe. Lol. All this “help” talk causes some of you guys to puff your chest out, and be all like “Yeah…I did that! I’m the one that helped her by tipping her 20 tokens in 1-token increments! I’m her hero!”

You probably also helped yourself to lots of ejaculation, thanks to her. You probably helped yourself to all the extra attention you required from her (like blowing up her notifications with a bunch of unnecessary PMs while she’s trying to work…because you’re so special).

And even if none of the above applies, and you are one of those “It’s okay, you can keep your clothes on…I’m just tipping to show appreciation!” guys, at some point you may have done something to become a total nuisance to her.

So real imagine being like "I keep this place running" when the restaraunt sever isn't nice enough to you. Oh wait. People actually also do that...

 

[MarieElise]

mm that's the treatment people get after helping.. Remember performers come and go but tippers remain in the platform to carry forward the industry..

just stop already, you sound like a whiny baby. npot attractive in the slightest.
my first year I put up with guys who made me uncomy but spent a lot. As soon as I got more popular, I cut every single one of them off.
And to prove my gut instinct about those specific men, quite a few went fucking ape shit.

like Audri said no one owes you anything. The money you paid is for entertainment and for a time-limited service.
your tokens didn't purchase you your own human sex slave for infinity

a good way to do business when you run live cam rooms and want to attract healthy customers, is to not keep people around who don't listen, and or put you on edge, as a model. The fact that you are here going on about this, tells all us Vet models exactly what the problem was with you. And your "peers", as stated above, appear to recognize it perfectly too

you sound very emotionally manipulative, and also like you have boundary issues, take that and smoke it.

 

[bnaj]

Omg,so much hatred going on here. okay okay performers are getting so hyper please calm down. Just to let you know i don't go around throwing chips to random girls and taking shows like others. I have some preferences so please don't be ruffled with that idea. To note I'm only interested in couple shows, solo show girls sorry. To point out some of them have left the platform and few even got banned just how worse it can get. I'm giving you an instance tell me what do you think.
tipped 1000 for 25mins sex show according to tip menu proceeded upon agreeing but couple does only for 5-8 minutes and asks for more to continue or else she starts abusing. Tell me how it feels isn't they expecting easy money?
There are plenty of rooms who only depend on high tippers to keep their show going. small tippers better watch out..

 

[stormythunder]

Omg,so much hatred going on here. okay okay performers are getting so hyper please calm down. Just to let you know i don't go around throwing chips to random girls and taking shows like others. I have some preferences so please don't be ruffled with that idea. To note I'm only interested in couple shows, solo show girls sorry. To point out some of them have left the platform and few even got banned just how worse it can get. I'm giving you an instance tell me what do you think.
tipped 1000 for 25mins sex show according to tip menu proceeded upon agreeing but couple does only for 5-8 minutes and asks for more to continue or else she starts abusing. Tell me how it feels isn't they expecting easy money?
There are plenty of rooms who only depend on high tippers to keep their show going. small tippers better watch out..

I think the issue most of us are having is you using the term abusing, insulting etc. You have every right to leave the room so i'm not sure how a model can abuse you. Youre not trapped there listening to her insult you, is what I mean. You can leave. And as you say, you do have specific preferences. No one would fault you for being picky, but we can fault you for going off platform to talk badly about the models.

I do understand why it would be frustrating to spend over $50 and not get your full show, but unfortunately it is in cb terms that the tips are a gratuity and cb isn't responsible for making sure the items on the tip menu are performed. There are other websites that are a little more strict about it such as bongacams and livejasmin, if you feel that's better for you. But none of us can change the way a model feels or acts towards you.

 

[ElGato]

but couple does only for 5-8 minutes and asks for more to continue or else she starts abusing.

Abusing?? How the hell is she abusing you? Reaching thru the monitor and back-handing you?
Your mere existence is an insult to anyone who has literally been abused in their lives.
Jesus, you're a drama queen!

Real victim of abuse here. Fuck off.

 

[Marceline]

Omg,so much hatred going on here. okay okay performers are getting so hyper please calm down. Just to let you know i don't go around throwing chips to random girls and taking shows like others. I have some preferences so please don't be ruffled with that idea. To note I'm only interested in couple shows, solo show girls sorry. To point out some of them have left the platform and few even got banned just how worse it can get. I'm giving you an instance tell me what do you think.
tipped 1000 for 25mins sex show according to tip menu proceeded upon agreeing but couple does only for 5-8 minutes and asks for more to continue or else she starts abusing. Tell me how it feels isn't they expecting easy money?
There are plenty of rooms who only depend on high tippers to keep their show going. small tippers better watch out..

As it’s already been stated in this thread, there’s members and models both telling you the same thing.

This post here pretty much validated what everyone here (models AND members) has been saying about you more than likely having an unlikable personality and that being the reason why models aren’t nice to you.

Also, FYI, paying 1000 tokens for a 25 minute private couple show hardly makes anyone a high tipper. That’s $2 a minute split between two people before taxes. So, each performer is actually making less than a dollar per minute. I wouldn’t call that “easy money”. If they’re offering a show for that amount, yes they should be upfront if it will cost more for certain acts. However, if you spoke to them the way you’ve posted here, it’s not surprising they would want more to keep the show going.

Most models appreciate tippers of any size, as long as they are well mannered and respectful. But, paying $50 dollars and then acting self righteous about it is enough for people to no longer appreciate you or your meager spending.

 

[bnaj]

I think the issue most of us are having is you using the term abusing, insulting etc. You have every right to leave the room so i'm not sure how a model can abuse you. Youre not trapped there listening to her insult you, is what I mean. You can leave. And as you say, you do have specific preferences. No one would fault you for being picky, but we can fault you for going off platform to talk badly about the models.

I do understand why it would be frustrating to spend over $50 and not get your full show, but unfortunately it is in cb terms that the tips are a gratuity and cb isn't responsible for making sure the items on the tip menu are performed. There are other websites that are a little more strict about it such as bongacams and livejasmin, if you feel that's better for you. But none of us can change the way a model feels or acts towards you.

You didn't get what i meant. Every room tip menu is different than other. So please read with calm head you're evading from the topic. Just to confirm i'm not here to insult any performers/models. just sharing thoughts to get help from the ones who might have faced these type of abuse and find ways to deal for upcoming shows..

 

[bnaj]

Abusing?? How the hell is she abusing you? Reaching thru the monitor and back-handing you?
Your mere existence is an insult to anyone who has literally been abused in their lives.
Jesus, you're a drama queen!

Real victim of abuse here. Fuck off.

There is an option in CB to "report room as broadcaster is abusive" hope you saw it, so don't be naive and stop overreacting..