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I have used chaturbate a lot and spent a lot of money there. So I want to share my experience and what I like and don't like. This is very useful information for models.
My main interest is big boobs but otherwise my thoughts relate to all categories.
I like models who invite me with pm when they see that I am to spending category.
I don't care much for hru etc, but what are you to do? I prefer "what do you like to see?"
I have no interest at all in rolling dice and other methods of trying to gain my interest. Those things put me off.
I like to know what I am expected to pay in private sessions. I don't usually go above 30 tks/min and at that level I do not expect to have to tip (I don't go for exotic things that cost more). If I am paying 12 or 18 tks/min then I will do tips for things well done.
Some models put 6 tks/min for private but want 500 tks up front. Way too much ladies.
I often don't use private. I find that I can get a rhythm of tips of 1 1 1 1 1 15 repeated that can turn on most models if they have set their lovense levels right. Usually 1 gets a few seconds on low and 15 gets a few extra seconds on medium. I don't usually tip 15 if it still does low.
I like to chat to models as well as tip. Some models love this and some tolerate it so I try to fit in. I make kind but always honest remarks to models. I find that some models faces light up when I enter their rooms and it is nice to be appreciated and I generally get more fun there.
I usually tell model in pm what it is that I like and want and ask if it is OK and if extra tips are required. Then there is no disappointment on either side.
I say hello by name to models and thank them and goodbye. It costs nothing to have good manners. I use emoji lots, my favourites being hearts and bow.
 
How would you feel if a model made a post saying:

"I'm a very popular model who has made a lot of money on ____ cam site. I want to share my interests and what I do and don't like. This is very useful information to members.

My main interest is money. Having a sense of humor is alright, but otherwise... Money.

I like members who chat using tip notes in my room and don't clog up my PMs. I don't care for PMs. It puts me off.

I don't like doing private shows. But, if I do them it will be for no less than 120 tokens per minute. 240 if I dislike your username. I like it when you tip big and frequently throughout the private. 500, 500, 500, 2000. When I'm in a private, I will do what I want and if the member complains or doesn't tip often enough, I will end the show. No one has time for that.

Some members like to tip 1 token at a time. This is way too low, fellas. If you're going to do a tip wall, it better be triple figure token amounts.

Remember, if you're on a cam site, you should be tipping, and tipping well."

Your original post came off as very rude and entitled. It's fine to like things. Making an entire post trying to "inform" models on what you like and essentially trying to convince(?) models to do exactly what you like under the guise of helping them is... bold. Did you honestly think that would go over well on a forum filled with seasoned models and members? On top of being entitled, you also come off as exploitative. Let's take a quick look at what models are really making off a self declared big spender like yourself.

3,000/tokens a week equals $150 USD. That's $600 dollars a month. I can't speak to how far $600 goes in other countries, but in the US, $600 a month is less than half of the national poverty line. And that's before taxes. Without even thinking about what you would owe in taxes (roughly 30% or so for independent contractors), you'd be hard up trying to find a place where rent and utilities is $600 a month. I could go on and on about how little $600 a month will go in the US, but I think you got the point. And, you are spreading that $600 among multiple models, or at least that's how it seems from your post. So, at most, a single model is making probably about $150 - $200 a month from you. That's not big spender money. And if you are the biggest spender in a room, that just means that you're in a room where the model isn't making much of an income and you're there trying to lowball by expecting the world for 1 token tips at a time. That's exploitative.

Also, per your private rates comment, 6 token/minute is 30 cents a minute. 18 dollars an hour. Even with the 500 tokens upfront, that's still less than a dollar per minute if you get an hour long private. Even at 30 tokens/per minute, $1.50 a minute is a pretty low amount for a show. It's definitely up to the model to charge however she sees fit, but it's incredibly rude to say that people charging more than you're willing to spend are charging "too high". It's not too high, it's just too high for you.


Have you ever forbid a whale from tipping when they showed up because everyone else would stop tipping when they arrived in your room?
It's something that annoys myself only to a point. Just because a whale arrives, does not mean that everyone else should stop tipping.
 
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@ OP (if you are still reading this thread)

what I learned from the cam community from the last 17 years is that you keep things to yourself and don't offer any advice or suggestions.
Unless someone legitimately wants your input. :)
pretty much. if this was a thread asking members what are their preferred show types. no problems. we have had several have popped up. sometimes its nice to see what others prefer in case a model decides to switch up their hustle. but sharing that preference while gloating and being critical on rooms/games/rates that don't make your peepee hard is in poor taste.

it was also annoying to be told multiple times what type of bodies he likes. hell, i love me some big titties too, but is it necessary to tell people three times within one day? that's weird.
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It’s not that this guy spends $150 a week (in case anyone gets it twisted). There are tons of guy I like and chat with that spend less, and who are cool, friendly people w humility.

The issue with this particular guy was 1. that he was misrepresenting himself as a big spender. And 2 that he was giving critical poor advice to models in a strong way.

I totally get that he wasn’t very bright (I mean that was obvious from his first and second posts on the forum). I also get that his social skills were absolutely terrible, but the main issue for me were 1 and 2.

I’m just worried other guys will read this thread and get it twisted that we are not grateful to all supporters no matter what they can spend. I would have called out a guy spending 10 times that much per week, if I felt he was misrepresenting things in such a way. Just saying. Don’t want nicer guys getting it wrong at all.

$150 per week is still a cool amount. It’s just not true to say that that amount puts anyone in a high spender category on any of the main sites . That sounds more like a lie a dude looking to have perceived power, and exploit others who are more naive , would say.
 
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Have you ever forbid a whale from tipping when they showed up because everyone else would stop tipping when they arrived in your room?

I’m so confused by this question, since it doesn’t really hold any relevance to what you quoted. Or maybe my brain isn’t working right because I’m extremely tired and just got home from being out drinking, so I’m just unable to make the connection between my post and the question.

But to answer the question, no. I never allowed my top spenders to run my room (and they never tried to) and I was lucky enough to have a good core group of regulars who would all pitch in varying amounts throughout my shows. And two of my most consistent “whales” always made tips larger than 1000 tokens ninja tips so no one in the room even knew who was tipping or how much except for me.
 
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I followed quite many rooms in CB for years and I believe that many girls earned 150 $ in three days. In Eastern Europe and South America it was earnings in two weeks in normal job and pretty much for many girls. But I didn’t follow any girl from the first 3 pages. It’s quite possible that for them 150 $ is worth of a yawn. I tipped normally about that amount but only once or twice a month.
 
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I have used chaturbate a lot and spent a lot of money there. So I want to share my experience and what I like and don't like. This is very useful information for models.
My main interest is big boobs but otherwise my thoughts relate to all categories.
I like models who invite me with pm when they see that I am to spending category.
I don't care much for hru etc, but what are you to do? I prefer "what do you like to see?"
I have no interest at all in rolling dice and other methods of trying to gain my interest. Those things put me off.
I like to know what I am expected to pay in private sessions. I don't usually go above 30 tks/min and at that level I do not expect to have to tip (I don't go for exotic things that cost more). If I am paying 12 or 18 tks/min then I will do tips for things well done.
Some models put 6 tks/min for private but want 500 tks up front. Way too much ladies.
I often don't use private. I find that I can get a rhythm of tips of 1 1 1 1 1 15 repeated that can turn on most models if they have set their lovense levels right. Usually 1 gets a few seconds on low and 15 gets a few extra seconds on medium. I don't usually tip 15 if it still does low.
I like to chat to models as well as tip. Some models love this and some tolerate it so I try to fit in. I make kind but always honest remarks to models. I find that some models faces light up when I enter their rooms and it is nice to be appreciated and I generally get more fun there.
I usually tell model in pm what it is that I like and want and ask if it is OK and if extra tips are required. Then there is no disappointment on either side.
I say hello by name to models and thank them and goodbye. It costs nothing to have good manners. I use emoji lots, my favourites being hearts and bow.
As a 8 year visitor of cam models I have my own style of tipping. I try to work with the the other members to peek the model to the edge which I find most enjoy that. If i am the only "whale" in the room and members are waiting for whatever they can see for free, i will usually ask the model if her private is open and can I have one with her. In private we discuss first how we are doing how her work has been going and then what we wanna do. My tipping style in private starts big 500 or more..then as she gets into it and is enjoying me and what she is doing ill generally not go below 50 on a tip and at the end of our time would tip 1000 - 2500.
Its a learned process and feel adn knowing right from the jump what you would like to see and what she enjoys doing. BUT..always keep in mind..this is her job and she makes her living from tokens not compliments.
 
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For the 3000 tokens per week not being worth much, i'd say it's relative (for many studio models in low-income countries, it's 1-2 days of work), and i'd venture there are many more not-so successful models than very successful ones. I guess it depends on the rooms you hang out in. But the models for whom it's a lot are usually not the models you'll find being participating a lot in this forum I think (although that might just be one of my own preconception, and i appologize if it's the case). While I agree that 150$ is a decent chunk of money for many people (me included), you have to put it over the number of hours of attention you're expecting. if it's 150 spread over 1-2 hours, ok it's a good amount. But if it's spread over 20 hours, it's really really not a lot. that's the rate of movie tickets.

For the 500 upfront for privates, it depends once again the type of model, the type of room and the type of privates customers they want. A model's earning is topped at 18$ per hours if she's offering 6 tks private and she was to spend all day in privates. If she's a studio model, cut that to 6-10$ for her. I can't imagine how chaffed and sore my dick would be if i spent 6 hours straight stroking it, and no way would i do it for 6-10$ an hour 5-6 days a week. With the upfront cost, she might still spend a lot of time in privates at 6 tks, but 1: she'll likely double or triple her wage to have something at least decent and 2: they'll be longer ones as dudes will maximize their investments, so they'll spend a lot of time with her, which might include 10-15 minutes of play and 45-50 minutes of talking and such, which is probably much much easier on their body than a string of 10 minutes "cum" show. It's not about greed, would you satisfy the fantasy of any guys for 15$ per hours? that's what, at most 1/20th of the rate of an escort. Just because they are online, doesn't mean their time is worth pennies on the dollar.

Even if you are a big tipper, it sounds like you believe that giving girl money entitles you to something, which If it's the case, I think you probably should try to work through that with a therapist because it doesn't seem like an healthy way to view things.

The turning them on part I found kind of funny. Think about it. Do you known many women in real life that will actually be turned on by a random touch by a random strangers to their privates part? They act like that because it keeps you tipping. If some random dude just randomly caressed your dick, would you actually get super horny? my guess is no.

Anyway, personally I'm the opposite on most of these point.
- I see no point in trying to turn a girl on because it's going to be fake. If she want to actually be turned on she will be, but she zero needs me for it. Give any girl a domi and we become practically useless.
- If a model super early ask me what i want to see, big turnoff. It feels so fake. I mean if I talk to her often and she ask me: oh what song should i dance to next?, that is great. But again I come back to the analogy of real life, do you know many women that, because you sent them a couple drinks in a bar, will walk up to you and ask you what you want her to show you?
- Personally, almost the only time i tip for specifics things on the menu is those random games (other than the "i like you" or things like that), when the room is dead. Sometimes it does get things going a bit and create some interactions.
- The times i take private shows, I have zero interest in asking or telling the model what to do. The tokens are for the time, and I just want to let things flow to wherever they end up. Most of the time all we do is talk, dance, or play games. And these are the interactions i cherish the most.
- Every bar and restaurants, and even most convenience store, drugstore and supermarket i'm a regular at, waitstaff/cashiers smile at me and most of them call me by name. It doesn't mean much, and it doesn't mean anything in the service industry. On cam it's pretty much the same. I wouldn't get too hung up on it.
- I do however also like to chat, it's mostly what I use camsites for 🤷‍♂️

My point is, everyone likes different things, so 1 person's opinion isn't worth much. Maybe if you polled 100s purples on CB on their preferences and published the results, then you could say it's helpful information for models!
 
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