Critters Caught On Cam

[JickyJuly]

Essentially, she's incorporating animal torture into porn. That's not legal at all. It's also sleazy and a copout way to make money.

I do have an amusing tale of fuzzy animal vs. snake in the battle for life, though. When I was 20, I worked at a reptile/exotic fish store. We also sold feeder rats and mice. So, one day some douchebag comes running through the door with a box in his hand screaming at me like a maniac. In the box is one of our feeder rats that he'd purchased. Apparently, when he tried to feed it to his snake, instead of climbing into the predators mouth the rat killed the snake. Hehehehe.

I had a fun time explaining survival of the fittest to the dude. Then I took the rat back and made him a lovely plate of cut up veggies. Score 1 for the little guy! :thumbleft:

 

[Jupiter551]

Well for one thing, I dont think burmese pythons eat rabbits in the wild. Small rodents, birds, medium sized mammals sure.

Secondly, it's not feeding the snake that I object to - at all - but doing it for entertainment of hundreds of people who are paying for the privelige of watching a defenceless animal lose its life - is sick. In nature, which seems to be a common point to all this, prey animals can and do escape. The python was raised in captivity, bred for the purpose of being a pet I'm fairly certain, as was the rabbit, now bought as live food with no chance of escape, and for its death to serve as amusement for others - nature has nothing to do with any of this.

Yeah, I love animals, and I would no sooner want to see the python harmed than the rabbit. Life is sacred - ALL life. Many people, Holly included for that matter it seems, don't seem to hold the life of a small animal to be of much value. Personally, I disagree. Any pet owner knows animals have personalities, that life is the only one the rabbit has, the only one it's ever going to get. Who has the right to take it away?

I think it's ludicrous and arrogant in the extreme to own a 9 foot python as a pet in the first place, and to feed it live rabbits for the amusement of others is reprehensible.

Would Holly mind if I had a pet saltwater croc and wanted to feed her snake to it? I suspect yes.

 

[FrecklesXxX]

Sad that she has to resort to such cruelty and controversy to keep interest in her room. I have friends who own snakes, and feeding a larger snake baby/small rabbits isn't uncommon. It's either that or killing several feeder rats each meal.

Back on topic-- I forgot to catch Nymph while she was riding her donkey bareback (OK, OK, she was using a towel..), but I did catch her shortly afterward when she got dressed up in her American Indian costume. :drool: This was one of the most hilarious shows ever. Anytime she walked somewhere she was followed by her horde of animals.

 

[Jupiter551]

I really like ForestNymph, she's such a cool, free chick
I got this great shot of her a while back, she looks radiant. I sent it to her and she loved it and put it on her profile :mrgreen:


Oh and the obligatory critter - AveryPearl and Bongo the lazy bull terrier

 

[Bocefish]

Nothing personal, just debating some ideas here...

it's not feeding the snake that I object to - at all - but doing it for entertainment of hundreds of people who are paying for the privelige of watching a defenceless animal lose its life - is sick.

Feeding times at the zoo for carnivores are by far the most popular visiting times. People love to see dangerous animals feeding for some reason. Is that sick as well? Or is it just OK because most zoos use pre-slaughtered animal meat so the public doesn't have to see the animal's food actually slaughtered?

Yeah, I love animals, and I would no sooner want to see the python harmed than the rabbit. Life is sacred - ALL life. Many people, Holly included for that matter it seems, don't seem to hold the life of a small animal to be of much value. Personally, I disagree. Any pet owner knows animals have personalities, that life is the only one the rabbit has, the only one it's ever going to get. Who has the right to take it away?

Are you a vegetarian, or is it just the act of watching defenseless animals lose their life that bothers you? Is the life of a worm or insect less valuable than a rabbit?? See where I'm going with this...

I think it's ludicrous and arrogant in the extreme to own a 9 foot python as a pet in the first place, and to feed it live rabbits for the amusement of others is reprehensible.

Plenty of people legally own exotic pets (which I don't necessarily agree with) that need food and she was going to do it anyway. Models are always looking for new ideas to change things up and make money. Once again I'll refer to feeding time at zoos being the most popular. It was probably a spur of the moment idea that she ran with.

 

[Mikeythegeek]

Boce, it's one thing that a zoo does it because one of the purposes of the zoo is to educate. MFC is a porn site. It does not exist to educate people about animals. It exists to provide adult entertainment.

 

[Jupiter551]

Nothing personal, just debating some ideas here...

Feeding times at the zoo for carnivores are by far the most popular visiting times. People love to see dangerous animals feeding for some reason. Is that sick as well? Or is it just OK because most zoos use pre-slaughtered animal meat so the public doesn't have to see the animal's food actually slaughtered?

Are you a vegetarian, or is it just the act of watching defenseless animals lose their life that bothers you? Is the life of a worm or insect less valuable than a rabbit?? See where I'm going with this...

Plenty of people legally own exotic pets (which I don't necessarily agree with) that need food and she was going to do it anyway. Models are always looking for new ideas to change things up and make money. Once again I'll refer to feeding time at zoos being the most popular. It was probably a spur of the moment idea that she ran with.

Well as Mikey pointed out, a zoo is a place where people go to see exotic animals, learn about them, in habitat that is hopefully at least somewhat suitable and healthy for the animals. Carnivores eat meat - there's no getting around it, and I have a pet cat who I obviously feed pre-packaged meat (actually it's offcuts; stuff humans won't eat so really animals arent being slaughtered to feed my pet but I digress) - but there are laws about humane slaughter of animals for food, just as there are laws about the killing of animals for lab testing.

The end result might be the same - a dead animal eaten by another animal - but the means of getting there is very different. If you went to a zoo and saw a terrified antelope forced into a lion enclosure at feeding time....I guarantee there would be a lot of distraught and upset people. Sure, they probably eat meat, that doesnt mean it isn't disturbing to watch a terrified animal losing its life for the spectacle of a bloodthirsty crowd. Like the guys chanting "kill the bunny kill the bunny".

I don't think the life of a worm or insect is intrinsically less valuable (to the worm or insect) than a rabbit or anything else - all animals fight to survive.

As for exotic pets - it's cruelty to keep a 9 foot python in a house or apartment, they require a lot of room, are expensive the larger they grow which is why it's an invasive pest in some areas in the US - Texas is particularly notorious for this because idiots buy tiger cubs, cant afford to feed or build a suitable habitat for them as they grow, or just don't think theyre cute anymore and dump them on struggling animal shelters. The US is one of the few countries that allows people to keep such pets without being zookeepers or having special licenses - and there are big problems associated with it. Wild animals should be in the wild. Burmese pythons are listed as threatened because they're smuggled into countries as pets (as well as poaching for hide).

I'm not a vegetarian, though I've often thought about it. It's a lazy and lame excuse but I can barely cook already, I think I'd feel lost if I had to completely change my diet - though I hope someday I'll make the decision. I don't generally eat a lot of meat however.

 

[MadisonLeigh]

As a bunny owner who has a phobia of snakes, that really pisses me off. I've defended her previously but...fuck everything about that.

 

[Nordling]

Yeah, at first it seems crazy to talk of "decorum" when discussing adult, live streaming cam shows but the snake eating a bunny is way over the line.

 

[Michael_G]

Iv watched hollyhanna on a number of occasions and I find her a bit odd, so this tips it for me. Ill send a report to MFC.

 

[Anonperv]

it seems like every thread here finally comes to... i hope someone reported her... i hope she gets banned... im gonna report her ...ect.
Ive been a mfc member since 08, i have seen them start enforcing the rules hard 2 times maybe. And its no fun for the members and the models alike.
no one wants to do privates and all the models are scared to do anything in public and privates (spys) for fear they will be made an example out of. and hardly anyone tips for nothing unless you have regulars.
mfc makes plenty of money. im sure if they wanted to the would hire more admins and enforce the rules.
Seems like since middle of last year the tippers have slowed down a lot. so its been a lot harder for models to earn tokens.
If you dont like something dont watch it or go to their room (make them hidden).

 

[Jupiter551]

it seems like every thread here finally comes to... i hope someone reported her... i hope she gets banned... im gonna report her ...ect.
Ive been a mfc member since 08, i have seen them start enforcing the rules hard 2 times maybe. And its no fun for the members and the models alike.
no one wants to do privates and all the models are scared to do anything in public and privates (spys) for fear they will be made an example out of. and hardly anyone tips for nothing unless you have regulars.
mfc makes plenty of money. im sure if they wanted to the would hire more admins and enforce the rules.
Seems like since middle of last year the tippers have slowed down a lot. so its been a lot harder for models to earn tokens.
If you dont like something dont watch it or go to their room (make them hidden).

Oh ok, so if you think something is really fucked up and inappropriate you should just turn your head? Does this extend to children on cam? Bestiality? Pedophilia roleplay?

Yeah I'm sure Holly is really hurting for tokens, while I was in her room the other day she was advertising her video where she fucks the e-brake in her fucking Corvette Z06. Again, that's beside the point.

In short, fuck you. If someone crosses a line they deserve to be reported and punished, and charging tokens to kill an animal live on cam is crossing the fucking line bigtime.

 

[Anonperv]

obviously kids are a different story. Im not a holly fan myself. and i dont watch her. all i can think about is how awful here apartment must smell.
from what i hear from here she didnt show the snake eat it. shes gonna feed the snake anyways. Im just saying in general most of the models do stuff against the rules let them do it
as long as they are not hurting themselves or others and let the admins punish them

 

[Jupiter551]

She WAS going to show the snake eating it, after showing the bunny running around the apartment, the only reason she didn't show it is because a minority of people had the balls to go in and tell her it was wrong. She still videotaped it and sold the video...

I know she was going to feed it to the snake anyway...and that's a whole other issue, but the point is auctioning off the rabbit's live death for entertainment purposes is fucking sick. What's next, dog fighting? Bear baiting?

We have saltwater crocs in my state that grow to over 20 feet and weigh around 2.5 tons, I wonder if Holly would find the spectacle of death as entertaining if I videotaped tossing her python into billabong or river with a croc in it.

 

[FrecklesXxX]

it seems like every thread here finally comes to... i hope someone reported her... i hope she gets banned... im gonna report her ...ect.

If you dont like something dont watch it or go to their room (make them hidden).

Nobody's hurting you by reporting the model, and admins can't watch every model all the time. In fact, I'm sure they rely (in part) on member reports to enforce the rules. If she's doing something that offends the members, then that's what the reports are for in the first place. If you don't like it, fine, but don't whine about members or models reporting people when that's their prerogative. Maybe you should send a report to MFC to complain about the report feature.

from what i hear from here she didnt show the snake eat it. shes gonna feed the snake anyways. Im just saying in general most of the models do stuff against the rules let them do it as long as they are not hurting themselves or others and let the admins punish them

And yes, she's going to feed her snake anyways, but she's playing off of the empathy of her members by telling them to pay her NOT to kill the rabbit. THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE ON A PORN SITE.

 

[Jupiter551]

And yes, she's going to feed her snake anyways, but she's playing off of the empathy of her members by telling them to pay her NOT to kill the rabbit. THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE ON A PORN SITE.

Actually what was even worse is there were maybe 2 or 3 people out of the hundreds who had any empathy for the rabbit...they overwhelmingly tipped to kill it. People disgust me sometimes.

 

[Nordling]

And yes, she's going to feed her snake anyways, but she's playing off of the empathy of her members by telling them to pay her NOT to kill the rabbit. THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE ON A PORN SITE.

Actually what was even worse is there were maybe 2 or 3 people out of the hundreds who had any empathy for the rabbit...they overwhelmingly tipped to kill it. People disgust me sometimes.

Me too. But that percentage doesn't surprise me, having observed the "quality" of the average member on MFC.

I was going to say that the yardstick, IMHO, to determine whether or not to report someone, is whether or not the act they are doing is actually illegal (and yeah, justifiably illegal; I don't care if models or members smoke weed while on cam). But in this case, what you've said kind of turned on a light. I wasn't there, but from what those who were, it sounds like what she was attempting to do was create a "virtual dog fight." Working up the mob to see blood and gore, and all for profit. Maybe not illegal, no idea...but so likely to change any semblance of a civilized atmosphere on the site that I throw it over to the admins and don't care if it's legal or not.

If it IS legal and all she did was show it with no money or giggling involved, I'd still be disgusted and leave but not advocate reporting it. But she's going beyond "show and tell" feed my snake and creating a "fight club."

 

[Anonperv]

Nobody's hurting you by reporting the model, and admins can't watch every model all the time. In fact, I'm sure they rely (in part) on member reports to enforce the rules. If she's doing something that offends the members, then that's what the reports are for in the first place. If you don't like it, fine, but don't whine about members or models reporting people when that's their prerogative. Maybe you should send a report to MFC to complain about the report feature.

I dont think there is a report feature or button. Only a contact mfc option. there is an ignore button though

 

[LadyLuna]

Nobody's hurting you by reporting the model, and admins can't watch every model all the time. In fact, I'm sure they rely (in part) on member reports to enforce the rules. If she's doing something that offends the members, then that's what the reports are for in the first place. If you don't like it, fine, but don't whine about members or models reporting people when that's their prerogative. Maybe you should send a report to MFC to complain about the report feature.

I dont think there is a report feature or button. Only a contact mfc option. there is an ignore button though

MFC Rules and Guidelines

At the top:

There are NO moderators, sheriffs, or over-eager administrators inspecting everything you do.

further down

We will only intervene in extraordinary circumstances dealing with illegal or highly disruptive behavior, or something that blatantly violates the rules of this website. If you would like to report such behavior, please Contact Support.

Notes: the Contact Support at the end of that quote is a link. This appears right above "Exchanging contact information with models"

In essence, "contact support" IS the report feature.

 

[nzhere]

Nobody's hurting you by reporting the model, and admins can't watch every model all the time. In fact, I'm sure they rely (in part) on member reports to enforce the rules. If she's doing something that offends the members, then that's what the reports are for in the first place. If you don't like it, fine, but don't whine about members or models reporting people when that's their prerogative. Maybe you should send a report to MFC to complain about the report feature.

I dont think there is a report feature or button. Only a contact mfc option. there is an ignore button though

A flag for admin attention option under the cam window?

if XX users flag a model within a period of say 5 mins? it attracts an admin to check it?
I suggested that a year ago

 

[Bocefish]

OK, this thread has gone wayyyyyyyy off course and if anybody wants to continue discussing MFC reporting issues.... start another thread.

Let's get back to the critters caught on cam. :thumbleft:

 

[Jupiter551]

Yeah I agree, here's my critter on cam


Oh and this is him about 15 minutes after he woke me up for his breakfast, he stays like this til about 2pm, eats, then again til 6

 

[FrecklesXxX]

Yeah I agree, here's my critter on cam


Oh and this is him about 15 minutes after he woke me up for his breakfast, he stays like this til about 2pm, eats, then again til 6

OMG!! that first pic especially has me wishing i were a kitteh!! :mrgreen:

 

[Jupiter551]

Yeah I agree, here's my critter on cam


Oh and this is him about 15 minutes after he woke me up for his breakfast, he stays like this til about 2pm, eats, then again til 6

OMG!! that first pic especially has me wishing i were a kitteh!! :mrgreen:

he'll be 11 this year and he's still like a kitten lol...playful and a little crazy. When he's not sleeping or begging for food anyway

 

[Jupiter551]

Last night I decided to tape a sign to him saying hi to a model friend of mine...the plan was to sneak up and place it while he was sleeping, and snap a quick pic.

Needless to say, he was uncooperative, he immediately raced around trying to remove it until I finally cornered him for a few seconds in the garage and got him standing still enough to take a pic lol.

 

[GreatDane]

Last night I decided to tape a sign to him saying hi to a model friend of mine...the plan was to sneak up and place it while he was sleeping, and snap a quick pic.

Needless to say, he was uncooperative, he immediately raced around trying to remove it until I finally cornered him for a few seconds in the garage and got him standing still enough to take a pic lol.

he has that look that says that he knows where you sleep and he will get even for this :lol:

 

[Nordling]

With her cat "Peachy."

 

[lordmagellan]

"AAhh! Now she's licking my ass!"

Puppies do the darndest things....

 

[QueenMeadow]

Some one said "show pussy" so she did!

 

[AnaVictoriaXO]

Poor tink got kicked lol