schlmoe said:
@HiGirlsRHot: Dude, you need to step away from this thread. Just stop. It's pretty apparent that you are using this thread to justify/get affirmation/gain approval for your high-speed "wannabe ambulance run". I'm very sorry your mom got sick (and I hope she's better), but it's doubtful that anyone here is going to condone your "heroic" actions.
To sum it up, you've gone from:
*Reckless - 65MPH race on unfamiliar streets (you were on vacation, so I'm assuming here) for a non-emergency situation. The only good thing that happened is you didn't kill your mom or anyone else driving at that time.
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*Wrong - I don't care how many lanes, or if there is a median...if there are fucking stop lights...it's not a fucking freeway/highway/expressway. Yes, there are urban roads labeled "HWY whatever", but most of these were laid down before the Federal Interstate System was built. These "highways" are simply the "straight line" between 2 destinations. Every state has them, and in some cases they have been built out to "real" highways. Again, stop lights = roads, not highways.
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*Foolish - You cite jalopnik, but neglect to acknowledge:
"The states indicated in green dictate that the left lane should be used exclusively for passing or turning left, though most of these limit enforcement to multi-lane highways"
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Man I have no idea where you are getting this stuff from. This has nothing to with an 8 year old incident with my mom, where I "recklessly" went 65 MPH on a mostly deserted 4 to 6 lane highway with 55 MPH speed limit, I am really sorry I mentioned it. I am well past debating if she was impeding traffic by driving below the normal speed. It is by a nature a subjective test and none of us were there and reasonable people can disagree..
AmberCutie said:
Got involved in a thread on reddit based on this vid yesterday. So many people were more irate at the person recording it for being in the left lane.
I have always been under the impression that on city streets (as opposed to highways and freeways), that you just drive in whatever lane is convenient for you. And the person who posted this video was making a left hand turn in about half a mile, so why would they switch lanes to let a tailgater zoom past at unsafe speeds when it's inconvenient for them?
Amber's question was a good one, I thought the rule applied everywhere but I was not sure so I did some research
Where you and many other are wrong is thinking that because she wasn't driving on a freeway the left lane rule doesn't apply.
I am baffled why don’t you consider US HIGHWAY 41 which is policed by the Florida HIGHWAY Patrol a highway as layman definition of a highway. But it doesn’t matter what you think, what matter is how the law defines a highway. It is surprisingly broad,which is why people are so confused.
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Florida law. "STREET OR HIGHWAY.— a) The entire width between the boundary lines of every way or place of whatever nature when any part thereof is open to the use of the public for purposes of vehicular traffic;”
Since street and highways are synonymous in most state, (CA being an exception) when you leave your driveway you are on the highway.. See nothing about stoplights, median, left turn lanes etc. and your definition of highway isn’t in the same ballpark as the law. Legally US Highway 41 is a multi-lane highway, despite what you think. You are correct it isn't a limited access highway aka a freeway.
But none of the definitions of highways matter since the left lane statue I posted starts off this way.: “Upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic ..." A roadway is just the surface vehicles travel on excluding the shoulder. The term includes everything from one lane country roads to 8 lane freeway. In case there is any doubt the statute says ALL roadways. Now if you want to point to a section of the Florida vehicular code that makes an exception for Highway 41 please post it.
So the woman was clearly on a roadway, she certainly didn’t need to drive 5.5 miles in the left hand lane to make a left hand turn so the left lane exception doesn’t apply.. There are no exceptions for school zones, business districts, residential area, or slick roads or even if is inconvenient. If she is driving below the normal speed she needs to speed up, or move over,
period. If she is passing another vehicle, then after she passes them she needs to move over, she didn’t. Of course the top priority is operating the vehicle is a safe fashion, but she had opportunities to safely move into the right lane before the video starts and after passing the second truck. .So the sole legal question is: was she ‘proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic”? I think most of the time the normal speed in the left hand lane is 5 to 10 miles above the speed limit. We don’t know what the speed limit on that stretch of US 41 is, her speed other than one glimpse of her speedometer, or the speed of other vehicles so we can’t really judge if she was going below normal. The reason we have left lane rules, is in part to prevent road rage accident. Common sense says she should have pulled over let the tailgating jerk pass her and then film him.
TL : DR The law says slower traffic stays right everywhere not just on a freeway..