Could you please post the list of websites likely to have pirated content? I'm not verified so I don't have access.
Also, should I sign up for Cam Model Protection under an alias or is there some legal reason they require my real name?
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Could you please post the list of websites likely to have pirated content? I'm not verified so I don't have access.
Also, should I sign up for Cam Model Protection under an alias or is there some legal reason they require my real name?
That isn't something we'd like to post publicly, no.
Is there a reason you don't want to get verified here?
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Are those third party anti-piracy services that MFC offers for models effective? I've heard that CMP is expensive and sucks at getting stuff taken down.
I only cammed very briefly and am trying to get the videos taken down. I still have a profile on MFC but have removed all my photos. The verification process just seems like it would be traumatic and a headache. Never mind; I guess I'll just have to take my chances with CMP without the list. I'd greatly appreciate an answer to my question about using my real name with CMP, however.
Ah yes, verification wouldn't be for you then. Hopefully someone can answer you about CMP, but you can also contact MFC or use their DMCA page to have them handle it for you.
Sorry Im late
haven't been here a while.Impossible that You cannot find me...it is a member account. Simply add me to Your friends list and pm or just mail me there. donutsdealer nickname for sure.
Sorry Im late
Impossible that You cannot find me...it is a member account. Simply add me to Your friends list and pm or just mail me there. donutsdealer nickname for sure.
Never mind, I decided I don't care about them being online. I can't be bothered to waste the time/energy on it. At least I look cute
I'm a camgirl who has been successful in removing images and links from google and would like to help other camgirls.
Other websites charge over $200 for this service. I'm offering to remove as much of your content as I can from google for $50.
Please email the google links you want removed and the link to your camming profile to alexaaggg@outlook.com and I will remove 3 initial links for free.
Other websites charge over $200 for this service. I'm offering to remove as much of your content as I can from google for $50.
Please email the google links you want removed and the link to your camming profile to alexaaggg@outlook.com and I will remove 3 initial links for free.
I've been looking into this for a while now and just found this thread. My girlfriend has been on Cam for years. She used to cam with her ex boyfriend and was ashamed when I accidentally found the recordings. I understand that it was in her past. I'm more concerned about her future. She doesn't want to do this for much longer. And I want to help her out. I'll speak with her and see about trying to get these videos down. Problem is I am talking over 60 pages of recorded videos.
So in looking through this thread it doesn't seem like there is any hope for upstore stuff, is there?
Hello again my friends. Again i apologize for my english, i'm really doing my best. In those months i've been working a lot about this subject.I thank all the people that gave me notions about it, especially donutsdealer. What i want to say, is that there are 2 completely different "worlds" that are hit by the "illegal cam recordings" phenomenon:
The first is the one of the "professional" models that work many hours and many days on the sites, that gained some "popularity" , that are used to release "premium videos" as raffle prizes, or as fidelity giftes, and then they see all for free on the "cam recording trade" sites, that generally, as i can see, make lots of money through advertising and banners, and THEN with membership subscriptions. This is the place where people look for things people could buy, and want for free. And the righteous anger that these sites inspire in the models can be compared to the feeling that had Metallica against Napster in the early 2000's. I mean: Metallica, not the Kiss Tribute Band that plays at the beer fair in the little town. For those kind of models, maybe, cam protection and other services could be useful.
But what made me begin this fight, has nothing to do with it. There is another "world". It's incredibly "close" to the one i talked about now, sometimes it's only a "avatar little square" away. But it's another world, and it's the one i met, and that doesn't let me sleep quietly, as i would.
Many girls have used MFC or the other cam sites for a few weeks or months only. Some have used them for many years, but only once a month or less, when they needed it or simply they wanted it (i'm not making the "bills paying" rethoric, here)... simply because these sites PERMITTED it. And, surely, these girls are the ones who, most of all, decided to enter the cam world thanks to the GEOLOCALIZATION POSSIBILITY. Yes, you can all say that it's easily breakable, ok, but, on contract was written this, and IT WORKED. It worked FOR YEARS... 9? 10? I know a pair of models that worked in years 2012, 2013 that LEFT NO TRACE IN THE NET. These girls didn't want popularity and surely didn't want enormous amounts of money. These girls, if they did 300 month staying a few hours on cam, it was gold. A pair of shoes, some accessories. A gift to grandma, or to the nephews. They had job and family. And for this reasons, they had ALL THE REASONS NOT TO BE NOTICED IN THEIR AREA. Since they are non-popular, they have NO economical problem AT ALL from the existence of those sites, nobody will look for their shows probably. But they have enormous LIFE problems from the existence of the TOTAL-RECORDING sites as MEGAFREE.... the ones based on upstore etc. The ones that, theoretically, make no money: if you look at them, there are NO ADS, NO BANNERS, NOTHING!!! They are not like the CAMWH... sites... that make money. Yes, there are the memberships, but who really would pay to download only public shows? So, my suspicion is that the business under the UPSTORE phenomenon is only based on blackmail to those "amateur"-"shy"-"good family"-"afraid to lose job"-"afraid that bf knows" models. In those years of "revenge porn", this is GOLD!!!! So, the only thing they write is the DMCA takedown request form, that is the real business, since it has the blackmail purpose.
Ok, it's only a suspicion, so, since can't sue them for blackmail, i reported them for all the other laws they are breaking, to FBI. But i'm an italian citizen. I had enormous problems to find the right office. I reported thm in MARCH!! And when i call them, they tell me i'm RIGHT, but they have to control this... control that... So i thought that the only way to CLOSE COMPLETELY those websites (i'm talking about the upstore-connected ones, i'm talking, in a way, of the "SECOND WORLD", ok?) is that you all write a mail to the same mail i wrote myself, talking about this law, but with words of your own. Not only. I wrote this to many adult sites that are based in USA, and FOLLOW THE LAWS, maybe they're not happy of it, but they follow it, telling them to report these sites too, because, if nobody does nothing, why should they follow the laws too? Why should they have the records and the ID's of the models? Why should there be a legal representant? if somebody can run a site without anything of these things, and still be free?
Hello!
I am an italian fan of naked women sites. I've been a member of your site too, in many occasions. This, only to say i have nothing against porn, i am porn-friendly. But here we're talking about something criminal, that has to do with blackmail.I know you are a site that follows the rules, and especially what laws say about this field. But there is someone that doesn't care about any rule (law or simply human). Now i'm here because i'm fighting a battle against a group of illegal sites that sell illegal camsites recordings.
I want to tell you i was, and still am, very serious about it. I'm putting my name, my face, and my effort on it, because i feel that the problem is even bigger and more dramatic than it seems.
I'll tell you more: even reading the models forums, i feel that also models, even if pissed off by it, don't realize totally the gravity of the situation, and how incredible it is that the sites are still running.
Reading the comments, i feel that models complain more about the fact they don't get money by it, instead of focusing on the real drama this situation can led to.
Maybe the problem is, that a person that i care for, is very nervous about it, and i had two nightmares about it, so i'm emotionally touched, but i want to do all my best to win the fight. It's not impossible, damn, it's simply a total illegal activity that EVERYBODY can see as illegal, and illegal activities have to be stopped or, at least, criminals have to FIGHT too to go on, but we can not let them live illegally in serenity. Generally, criminals think it's worth to fight against law and have a hard life about it, if the money is really good. But i don't think this guy makes A LOT of money. Obviously, if we let him do whatever he wants without even needing lawyers or, who knows, changing servers everyday, even if this makes him earn 1000 dollars a month, he will go on. Why stopping if nobody disturbs him??
I worked in broadcasting industry, i know a lot about it. In one of the radio groups i worked for, all servers were confiscated, because we didn’t pay a tax we didn’t even know it existed. WE were the ones that had to demonstrate that we payed it, NOT them, that we didn’t pay it!
So, the fact the sites are still running is something that makes my rage blow, also because I know the owner of this radio I worked for had a lot of problems, even if, after a few years, they told him he was right, and he already payed the tax through another tax. This, to say that the fact that the sites are running is a insult to all the people who respect law, and especially the ones who pay if they didn’t respect it.
The law, that’s what we’re talking about. It all concerns this. Someone of you, nearly all, focused on the copyright problem, but really, this is not the focus of the problem. The main “problem” for them should be the next law: 18 U.S.C. 2257 pertaining to the publication of photography and film in an electronic media.
It’s not a problem of “interpretation”: there is NO ONE THING in these sites that is ok with these laws.
Ok, you could say: but the servers are who knows where, in Cayman Islands, boh…. No: they’re in San Francisco, California, USA. First I tried to contact Italian police, but they told me that since the servers were not in Italy, they couldn’t do anything. I don’t even know how many forms I tried to send, but as I am not American, in some cases I can’t… well, at a certain point, I found a telephone number of FBI about internet crimes and I called… even better, there was a guy SPEAKING ITALIAN like me, so I really could express in my native language! Hurrah, I thought! The guy was really interested and told me to send a mail to a address he gave me, and this is the mail I sent on MARCH 25:
To. shawca@state.gov
Hello!
First, i apologize for my english (i'm italian). I reported it to the postal police in Rome, via Trastevere 191. They told me it's outside of Italy, so they can't do anything. So i calledthe Secret Service number, and i also talked to an italian guy that gave me this e-mail. So i write to you.
I'm reporting you those sites, hoping you can block them. because, even if they sell pornographic videos, probably ALL stolen by webcams, of people totally UNAWARE of this "business" (somebody is making money with their image), they re AGAINST THE LAW, especially
18 U.S.C. 2257 pertaining to the publication of photography and film in an electronic media:
1) They don't show ANY PROOF of the age of the models involved, so they could be also of minor age
2) They don't show ANY PROOF of contracts or proof of OWNING THE RIGHTS to show and sell the images
3) They don't tell where the files are located, so there isn't any "CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS" sentence on the page.
4) They don't tellin the front page that they are a ADULT SITE, so they don't show any STOP like "ENTER" or "LEAVE" pages.
A legal site should display those information:
All models were 18 years or older at the times the pictures and or videos were created.
Any questions regarding the aforementioned items may be sent to (...e-mail)
All records and model identifications for all content shot and owned by (name of the company) is available at:
Custodian of Records
-name of the company
-street
-state
-country
I have an image, it can be clearly seen, in the last caps, a BLACK CHILD that enters the scene, when his MOM or ADULT WOMAN, after the exibition, falls asleep. The other images show clearly the MOM or ADULT WOMAN in the same room performing sexual acts.
If someone would know WHO IS THIS MOM that permits this, how could they ask? How can they have this video?
I have a big suspicion: these sites are built for BLACKMAIL PURPOSES. There is written only to "ask for removal", but when the person depicted in the images writes for removal, she will be asked for money not to show those images on socials etc, while now THEY OWN THE REAL NAME OF THE DEPICTED PERSON.
These are sites that already are illegal in themselves, but can lead to other, worse crimes, and also tragedies.
I hope you understand the danger of keeping sites like this running.
These are all the informations i found:
"MASTER SERVER" (Where all images are stored):
oop.bz (Hosting: CLOUDFLARE - SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.)
all info here:
http://oop.bz.ipaddress.com/
"CONNECTED SITES" (the sites that have LINKS to those images and that SELL the VIDEOS taken from webcams through UPSTORE):
teencamvideos.me (especially TEEN videos... HOW CAN WE KNOW THEY ARE NOT OF MINOR AGE??) - : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://teencamvideos.me.ipaddress.com/
teencamvideos.me (especially TEEN videos... HOW CAN WE KNOW THEY ARE NOT OF MINOR AGE??) - : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://teencamvideos.me.ipaddress.com/
megafreecamsvideos.net : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://megafreecamsvideos.net.ipaddress.com/
megafreecams4you.com : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://megafreecams4you.com.ipaddress.com
camgirlcaps.com : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.)
http://camgirlcaps.com.ipaddress.com/
webcam-archiver.com: all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://webcam-archiver.com.ipaddress.com
[site name banned*10] : all info here (hosting is in NETHERLANDS). This was the OLD images storage site, still there are many links to this site, but it seems to be "dead" now, maybe after my report to dutch police.
http://[site name banned*10].ipaddress.com/
[site name banned*5].org : all info here (hosting is in NETHERLANDS):
http://[site name banned*5].org.ipaddress.com/
I'm available for all info you want to ask me, i thank you for your work and i hope this problem will be solved soon.
Thank you
Then i put my real name, my real address and my number in the letters.
Now, only to tell you I’m doing my best and I don’t think anybody did all this, at least reading what I read on forums, but I’m only an Italian guy that maybe is the last of their thoughts… So i didn't hear back from them... I have other ideas but I really need to talk with somebody who at least is American… and especially, you are THE ONES WHO FOLLOW THE LAW, and now you know that somebody else doesn't do it, and NOBODY DOES ANYTHING!!!! So, you could ask: "Why should we follow the law? Why should we keep records and all, when somebody else STEALS MATERIAL AND SELLS IT, without ANY legal information on the site, and NOBODY STOPS HIM?"
Thank you and keep the good work!
(my name)
The first is the one of the "professional" models that work many hours and many days on the sites, that gained some "popularity" , that are used to release "premium videos" as raffle prizes, or as fidelity giftes, and then they see all for free on the "cam recording trade" sites, that generally, as i can see, make lots of money through advertising and banners, and THEN with membership subscriptions. This is the place where people look for things people could buy, and want for free. And the righteous anger that these sites inspire in the models can be compared to the feeling that had Metallica against Napster in the early 2000's. I mean: Metallica, not the Kiss Tribute Band that plays at the beer fair in the little town. For those kind of models, maybe, cam protection and other services could be useful.
But what made me begin this fight, has nothing to do with it. There is another "world". It's incredibly "close" to the one i talked about now, sometimes it's only a "avatar little square" away. But it's another world, and it's the one i met, and that doesn't let me sleep quietly, as i would.
Many girls have used MFC or the other cam sites for a few weeks or months only. Some have used them for many years, but only once a month or less, when they needed it or simply they wanted it (i'm not making the "bills paying" rethoric, here)... simply because these sites PERMITTED it. And, surely, these girls are the ones who, most of all, decided to enter the cam world thanks to the GEOLOCALIZATION POSSIBILITY. Yes, you can all say that it's easily breakable, ok, but, on contract was written this, and IT WORKED. It worked FOR YEARS... 9? 10? I know a pair of models that worked in years 2012, 2013 that LEFT NO TRACE IN THE NET. These girls didn't want popularity and surely didn't want enormous amounts of money. These girls, if they did 300 month staying a few hours on cam, it was gold. A pair of shoes, some accessories. A gift to grandma, or to the nephews. They had job and family. And for this reasons, they had ALL THE REASONS NOT TO BE NOTICED IN THEIR AREA. Since they are non-popular, they have NO economical problem AT ALL from the existence of those sites, nobody will look for their shows probably. But they have enormous LIFE problems from the existence of the TOTAL-RECORDING sites as MEGAFREE.... the ones based on upstore etc. The ones that, theoretically, make no money: if you look at them, there are NO ADS, NO BANNERS, NOTHING!!! They are not like the CAMWH... sites... that make money. Yes, there are the memberships, but who really would pay to download only public shows? So, my suspicion is that the business under the UPSTORE phenomenon is only based on blackmail to those "amateur"-"shy"-"good family"-"afraid to lose job"-"afraid that bf knows" models. In those years of "revenge porn", this is GOLD!!!! So, the only thing they write is the DMCA takedown request form, that is the real business, since it has the blackmail purpose.
Ok, it's only a suspicion, so, since can't sue them for blackmail, i reported them for all the other laws they are breaking, to FBI. But i'm an italian citizen. I had enormous problems to find the right office. I reported thm in MARCH!! And when i call them, they tell me i'm RIGHT, but they have to control this... control that... So i thought that the only way to CLOSE COMPLETELY those websites (i'm talking about the upstore-connected ones, i'm talking, in a way, of the "SECOND WORLD", ok?) is that you all write a mail to the same mail i wrote myself, talking about this law, but with words of your own. Not only. I wrote this to many adult sites that are based in USA, and FOLLOW THE LAWS, maybe they're not happy of it, but they follow it, telling them to report these sites too, because, if nobody does nothing, why should they follow the laws too? Why should they have the records and the ID's of the models? Why should there be a legal representant? if somebody can run a site without anything of these things, and still be free?
Hello!
I am an italian fan of naked women sites. I've been a member of your site too, in many occasions. This, only to say i have nothing against porn, i am porn-friendly. But here we're talking about something criminal, that has to do with blackmail.I know you are a site that follows the rules, and especially what laws say about this field. But there is someone that doesn't care about any rule (law or simply human). Now i'm here because i'm fighting a battle against a group of illegal sites that sell illegal camsites recordings.
I want to tell you i was, and still am, very serious about it. I'm putting my name, my face, and my effort on it, because i feel that the problem is even bigger and more dramatic than it seems.
I'll tell you more: even reading the models forums, i feel that also models, even if pissed off by it, don't realize totally the gravity of the situation, and how incredible it is that the sites are still running.
Reading the comments, i feel that models complain more about the fact they don't get money by it, instead of focusing on the real drama this situation can led to.
Maybe the problem is, that a person that i care for, is very nervous about it, and i had two nightmares about it, so i'm emotionally touched, but i want to do all my best to win the fight. It's not impossible, damn, it's simply a total illegal activity that EVERYBODY can see as illegal, and illegal activities have to be stopped or, at least, criminals have to FIGHT too to go on, but we can not let them live illegally in serenity. Generally, criminals think it's worth to fight against law and have a hard life about it, if the money is really good. But i don't think this guy makes A LOT of money. Obviously, if we let him do whatever he wants without even needing lawyers or, who knows, changing servers everyday, even if this makes him earn 1000 dollars a month, he will go on. Why stopping if nobody disturbs him??
I worked in broadcasting industry, i know a lot about it. In one of the radio groups i worked for, all servers were confiscated, because we didn’t pay a tax we didn’t even know it existed. WE were the ones that had to demonstrate that we payed it, NOT them, that we didn’t pay it!
So, the fact the sites are still running is something that makes my rage blow, also because I know the owner of this radio I worked for had a lot of problems, even if, after a few years, they told him he was right, and he already payed the tax through another tax. This, to say that the fact that the sites are running is a insult to all the people who respect law, and especially the ones who pay if they didn’t respect it.
The law, that’s what we’re talking about. It all concerns this. Someone of you, nearly all, focused on the copyright problem, but really, this is not the focus of the problem. The main “problem” for them should be the next law: 18 U.S.C. 2257 pertaining to the publication of photography and film in an electronic media.
It’s not a problem of “interpretation”: there is NO ONE THING in these sites that is ok with these laws.
Ok, you could say: but the servers are who knows where, in Cayman Islands, boh…. No: they’re in San Francisco, California, USA. First I tried to contact Italian police, but they told me that since the servers were not in Italy, they couldn’t do anything. I don’t even know how many forms I tried to send, but as I am not American, in some cases I can’t… well, at a certain point, I found a telephone number of FBI about internet crimes and I called… even better, there was a guy SPEAKING ITALIAN like me, so I really could express in my native language! Hurrah, I thought! The guy was really interested and told me to send a mail to a address he gave me, and this is the mail I sent on MARCH 25:
To. shawca@state.gov
Hello!
First, i apologize for my english (i'm italian). I reported it to the postal police in Rome, via Trastevere 191. They told me it's outside of Italy, so they can't do anything. So i calledthe Secret Service number, and i also talked to an italian guy that gave me this e-mail. So i write to you.
I'm reporting you those sites, hoping you can block them. because, even if they sell pornographic videos, probably ALL stolen by webcams, of people totally UNAWARE of this "business" (somebody is making money with their image), they re AGAINST THE LAW, especially
18 U.S.C. 2257 pertaining to the publication of photography and film in an electronic media:
1) They don't show ANY PROOF of the age of the models involved, so they could be also of minor age
2) They don't show ANY PROOF of contracts or proof of OWNING THE RIGHTS to show and sell the images
3) They don't tell where the files are located, so there isn't any "CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS" sentence on the page.
4) They don't tellin the front page that they are a ADULT SITE, so they don't show any STOP like "ENTER" or "LEAVE" pages.
A legal site should display those information:
All models were 18 years or older at the times the pictures and or videos were created.
Any questions regarding the aforementioned items may be sent to (...e-mail)
All records and model identifications for all content shot and owned by (name of the company) is available at:
Custodian of Records
-name of the company
-street
-state
-country
I have an image, it can be clearly seen, in the last caps, a BLACK CHILD that enters the scene, when his MOM or ADULT WOMAN, after the exibition, falls asleep. The other images show clearly the MOM or ADULT WOMAN in the same room performing sexual acts.
If someone would know WHO IS THIS MOM that permits this, how could they ask? How can they have this video?
I have a big suspicion: these sites are built for BLACKMAIL PURPOSES. There is written only to "ask for removal", but when the person depicted in the images writes for removal, she will be asked for money not to show those images on socials etc, while now THEY OWN THE REAL NAME OF THE DEPICTED PERSON.
These are sites that already are illegal in themselves, but can lead to other, worse crimes, and also tragedies.
I hope you understand the danger of keeping sites like this running.
These are all the informations i found:
"MASTER SERVER" (Where all images are stored):
oop.bz (Hosting: CLOUDFLARE - SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.)
all info here:
http://oop.bz.ipaddress.com/
"CONNECTED SITES" (the sites that have LINKS to those images and that SELL the VIDEOS taken from webcams through UPSTORE):
teencamvideos.me (especially TEEN videos... HOW CAN WE KNOW THEY ARE NOT OF MINOR AGE??) - : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://teencamvideos.me.ipaddress.com/
teencamvideos.me (especially TEEN videos... HOW CAN WE KNOW THEY ARE NOT OF MINOR AGE??) - : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://teencamvideos.me.ipaddress.com/
megafreecamsvideos.net : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://megafreecamsvideos.net.ipaddress.com/
megafreecams4you.com : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://megafreecams4you.com.ipaddress.com
camgirlcaps.com : all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.)
http://camgirlcaps.com.ipaddress.com/
webcam-archiver.com: all info here (hosting is CLOUDFLARE in SAN FRANCISCO - U.S.A.):
http://webcam-archiver.com.ipaddress.com
[site name banned*10] : all info here (hosting is in NETHERLANDS). This was the OLD images storage site, still there are many links to this site, but it seems to be "dead" now, maybe after my report to dutch police.
http://[site name banned*10].ipaddress.com/
[site name banned*5].org : all info here (hosting is in NETHERLANDS):
http://[site name banned*5].org.ipaddress.com/
I'm available for all info you want to ask me, i thank you for your work and i hope this problem will be solved soon.
Thank you
Then i put my real name, my real address and my number in the letters.
Now, only to tell you I’m doing my best and I don’t think anybody did all this, at least reading what I read on forums, but I’m only an Italian guy that maybe is the last of their thoughts… So i didn't hear back from them... I have other ideas but I really need to talk with somebody who at least is American… and especially, you are THE ONES WHO FOLLOW THE LAW, and now you know that somebody else doesn't do it, and NOBODY DOES ANYTHING!!!! So, you could ask: "Why should we follow the law? Why should we keep records and all, when somebody else STEALS MATERIAL AND SELLS IT, without ANY legal information on the site, and NOBODY STOPS HIM?"
Thank you and keep the good work!
(my name)
So you have a lot of passion for this, and your comments are very pro-model. Like you I am pretty annoyed that these bloodsuckers get away with their copy and redistribute nonsense.
For those who do not want to read his entire post, the quick summary would be that he is suggesting a law enforcement move to get the servers that run these redistribution sites shut down. The legal angle is that the site owners lack S2257 documentation. The problem with this is the week after that shut down happens, they will just move the servers to a new provider, outside the legal jurisdiction of US law. You would then end up having to contact law enforcement in dozens of countries, dealing with the nuances of each country's laws. I am not saying you should not do this, but you are fooling yourself if you do not believe that this is a full time job for some person. If you want a lifestyle business, it would be a worthwhile thing to set up a non-profit foundation that has as its goal the constant legal harassment and shutdown of these sites. You could probably get donations to that cause, but you can be sure it will be a LOT of work for the foundation staff. The bloodsuckers will constant dodge every attempt you make to shut them down. But, eventually, after years of closing the noose around their neck, you could probably curtail 90% of their reach.
I have another idea for you that I think might be an even stronger angle. Get about 100 webcam models to support your cause and willing to write letters showing violation of their copyrights. Sue the domain holders in a US court, and ask for the court to rule that the domain names need to be shut down. Now you might be thinking that this will generate a huge legal bill. What I would be counting on is that it will be a no contest lawsuit. Because the people running those domains do not want to reveal their identity. Armed with a court order, you could go to the organizations that handle domain names and try to get the domains taken down. The whole thing might be done just with the paperwork to file the suit and some brief appearances in court. If you went this route, be sure to contact a domain name lawyer and coordinate the strategy with him. In fact, he might be the lawyer that you hire to litigate this, and domain name lawyers are often much cheaper than typical lawyers and often do things for a fixed price.
Since you have them on copyright violations, you need to also understand that US copyright law could award *EACH* copyright holder as much as $150K for clear violation of a commercial, for-profit copyright. If you had 100 webcam models participating as a "class" in your class action suit, you could generate a $15M USD judgement against the domain holders, assuming you had an indignant judge. While you probably will never collect against a dime of that judgement, the power of a court order with that kind of money will have anyone you present the court order to take you extremely seriously. No content distribution site with a legally identifiable person or company behind it will want to stand up against a $15M judgement. So that is likely to buy you a lot of cooperation from third parties.
It's worth exploring.
Hello Smores, i thank you for the reply and for the advices. I'll try to explain myself better, and i'll also try to explain why , even if your advice is very interesting, i won't follow it. Please let me apologize again, not only for my english, but also for "being italian", i mean, it's not only that i don't know perfectly the language: i surely don't know exactly the laws, how do countries manage to make people respect them, and i don't know deeply the culture, the way of thinking, and so on. Nevertheless, i also don't live on the moon: and the fact i feel it's so difficult to find people understanding my point (or points), beyond my objective limits in exposing it, and that i didn't find an existing thread about it, surprises me even more. So please, i hope you'll appreciate at least my effort, with which i try to compensate for the lack of other skills.
The 2 points i'm talking about, and the 2 reasons for which i'm writing here, are:
Point 1) Copyright issues, "bloodsuckers", people that make money with another person's image and effort are surely big economical and ethical problems, for a world that i can call "the webstars" world. But there is another world, the world of the "good family" girls, the "little towns" girls, the "girls that tried camming with best friend, but then they fighted"... it's impossible that i am the only one who knows stories like these. Obviously, i know the faces, i know the stories, i know the faces of dads and mothers of these people, and i know that, for people like this, the copyright or the economical problem is the last on earth and, on the contrary, the blackmail, even if only moral blackmail, wouldn't be simply a legal problem: it would be a LETHAL problem. Sorry if i am catastrophic, i tried not to go heavy on it in my first posts, hoping that someone "felt" the mood of it, but since it didn't happen, i have to talk clear. I had nightmares about it. I am doing this hoping that the persons involved DO NOT EVEN KNOW the problem, because, only KNOWING it (knowing that there are the recorded videos) because i'm pretty sure this already would led them to incredible anxiety or worse.
So again, sorry if i'm italian, but in Italy, for a girl that was MUCH MORE irresponsible than the ones i care for, (no contracts, simply being filmed during sex by a friend or lover), and then video went around on the web, it ended with SUICIDE. This is the story:
http://corrieredelmezzogiorno.corri...re-def0032e-f35f-11e6-a794-3e082eaf5c0e.shtml.
So, we all can say: "we're sorry for this girl, but, damn, was she completely stupid in the moment she let someone else film her during sex?"... and yes, it's really like that. With all respect, Rest In Peace, but really, she was irresponsible. But still, it's unfair to pay with LIFE for this kind of irresponsibility.
So, what we should say about "little town" girls that do cam, maybe once a month, surely not as "professionals", with other jobs, and school, and being volunteers in associations, and having a warm loving family? Haven't they the right to keep the "cam part" of their life only in the "cam" world? I mean, on the contrary of the poor Tiziana, they WEREN'T irresponsible. They were BETRAYED. It's very different! They read a contract, and they signed it. In this contract, there was written that they could have used GEOLOCALIZATION to ban the countries they didn't want to broadcast in. The simple fact that THIS TECHNOLOGY EXIST, it means that it makes sense. This doesn't mean that every cam girl should be shy to show herself in her country, for example UK has a tradition of glamour magazines and parents and grandparents are proud of daughters naked on them... i would love that everybody could have this freedom, but it's not like this! So, i was saying, these girls surely WOULDN'T EVER do cam if they were broadcasted in their country, exactly like they wouldn't be models for adult magazines, or strippers before cams existed. Obviously, there was a possibility of being recognized (VPN, relatives living in other countries, but well, very low). So, we can't say sentences like "if they did this, they should have thought about the consequences". They thought, they looked for information, they did technical checkups: it's not exactly what you call "irresponsible". And, for at least 5 years, it went exactly like this. So there are girls i knew on cam, in years 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, of which on the net DOESN t EXIST A TRACE. Their work was available only on streaming, in the "club" of the site, and in the countries they wanted their stream to be available. Then, they quit camming, and they can be safe everywhere.
Now, what an incredible and unfair privilege this could be, to the eyes of the ones that, after 2015? have ALL recorded and, especially, depicted in PICS , through the upstore-related sites? Why they can't be safe as the other ones, and have to fear for revenge or blackmails of ex-friends, ex-lovers, colleagues? And, another thing: the ones that put a private video on web, like the ones that brought Tiziana to suicide, did an illegal thing. But if tomorrow an ex camgirl i know makes me angry for some reason, and instead of telling her bad words on the phone, i decide to link to their upstore "screen caps picture" on her facebook timeline, so to bring her dad to heartache directly, I COULD! And i would even NOT DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL... because the link already exists! So, do you understand what a "help" to revenge porn it is? Ok, i won't go on with other examples or paradoxes... but i hope people on the forum witll think also about this issue, not only the copyright or the "bloodsucking".
Point 2) If we talk about law, and then we say "ok, even if they force them to quit, they will begin again somewhere else", we can also stop it here... it's obvious that i'm trying to do all this because i think law should be respected. I simply think that, considering the "good" and the "bad" of both law angles (copyright laws or DMCA laws VS. 18 U.S.C. 2257), i still prefer to believe in this second one, for many reasons. The first, and most important, is that there isn't a "perfectly clear" certification about the copyright, who is owner of what, etc... who is the owner? The model? The site? The studio ? And when there are more sites? And copyright for what? To stay on bed naked? I mean, it's not a song, a movie, a poem... It's ridiculous to talk about copyright, really! And in fact, i didn't see any effect of DMCA laws on the "upstore-related" sites, at least. The second, is that, with the DMCA laws, we don't know exactly who would be the ones who had interest to sue the sites company... i mean... Smores, i really appreciate your serious attitude to the problem, but really do you think that there would be 100 webcam models that don't have a life apart of being webcam models, that would show themselves in a court more happily than a site owner? Yes, maybe i am "fooling myself", but i'm not the only one! On the contrary, in a court based on 2257,it would need only 10 "serious sites" (brazzers.com? suicide girls? reality kings? ... a bunch of porn or adult sites that FOLLOW 2257), to sue them for "unfair competition"... i mean, when in my field, tv and radio broadcasting, i had legal problems, it was always because some other stations reported something about my company to the law. So, why should other sites go on following law, when there are those ones who don't? That's the point... i would like to bring other sites to sue them, instead of models. But, since FBI itself told me, for 3 times, I AM RIGHT, but i'm an italian guy counting nothing, i simply think that many people, especially americans, calling FBI and asking for it, would help a lot! So, i'm here asking, at least, to try!
And do you know why i think that, if "tormented" by FBI a few times, these upstore-related sites guys would quit? Because, i continue thinking, they don't make ENOMOUS amount of money. This doesn't mean, they don't do it at all. They're making money, because they don't have any expense. But, if they have to begin with lawyers etc, or simply changing place every week, they would prefer quitting. Especially, because you have to LOOK at those sites, look there and tell me, really, WHERE IS THE MONEY?
No ads! No banners! Nothing! A upstore link... so, theoretically, a revenue on upstore memberships... for what? To look at CAM PUBLIC SHOWS? recorded? Where you can look at them for free? Or even recorded, like on camwh.ores? Do you really think out there there are lots of people paying for this continuously?
Obviously, not. It's OBVIOUS that the blackmail purpose is the only "core business" of it. We can't sue a purpose, but we have to know it exist... and FBI or POLICE should do all its best to prevent blackmail... so, since they can't arrest them for "purpose" of blackmail, they should arrest them for 2257!!!! But with the same EFFORT they would put in the ones who blackmail young girls and boys, of showing their porn pics to their parents!!! With the same RAGE, ANGER, HATRED i would put in it!!!
Sorry, i am emotionally touched in this. I am very angry with FBI that doesn't take this seriously. I really hope there will be no other Tiziana Cantone anywhere, but, if there will be, i really would like to hear what FBI will tell!!!!! knowing they did NOTHING!!!
Thank you again, i tried to explain my "points" at my best.
The 2 points i'm talking about, and the 2 reasons for which i'm writing here, are:
Point 1) Copyright issues, "bloodsuckers", people that make money with another person's image and effort are surely big economical and ethical problems, for a world that i can call "the webstars" world. But there is another world, the world of the "good family" girls, the "little towns" girls, the "girls that tried camming with best friend, but then they fighted"... it's impossible that i am the only one who knows stories like these. Obviously, i know the faces, i know the stories, i know the faces of dads and mothers of these people, and i know that, for people like this, the copyright or the economical problem is the last on earth and, on the contrary, the blackmail, even if only moral blackmail, wouldn't be simply a legal problem: it would be a LETHAL problem. Sorry if i am catastrophic, i tried not to go heavy on it in my first posts, hoping that someone "felt" the mood of it, but since it didn't happen, i have to talk clear. I had nightmares about it. I am doing this hoping that the persons involved DO NOT EVEN KNOW the problem, because, only KNOWING it (knowing that there are the recorded videos) because i'm pretty sure this already would led them to incredible anxiety or worse.
So again, sorry if i'm italian, but in Italy, for a girl that was MUCH MORE irresponsible than the ones i care for, (no contracts, simply being filmed during sex by a friend or lover), and then video went around on the web, it ended with SUICIDE. This is the story:
http://corrieredelmezzogiorno.corri...re-def0032e-f35f-11e6-a794-3e082eaf5c0e.shtml.
So, we all can say: "we're sorry for this girl, but, damn, was she completely stupid in the moment she let someone else film her during sex?"... and yes, it's really like that. With all respect, Rest In Peace, but really, she was irresponsible. But still, it's unfair to pay with LIFE for this kind of irresponsibility.
So, what we should say about "little town" girls that do cam, maybe once a month, surely not as "professionals", with other jobs, and school, and being volunteers in associations, and having a warm loving family? Haven't they the right to keep the "cam part" of their life only in the "cam" world? I mean, on the contrary of the poor Tiziana, they WEREN'T irresponsible. They were BETRAYED. It's very different! They read a contract, and they signed it. In this contract, there was written that they could have used GEOLOCALIZATION to ban the countries they didn't want to broadcast in. The simple fact that THIS TECHNOLOGY EXIST, it means that it makes sense. This doesn't mean that every cam girl should be shy to show herself in her country, for example UK has a tradition of glamour magazines and parents and grandparents are proud of daughters naked on them... i would love that everybody could have this freedom, but it's not like this! So, i was saying, these girls surely WOULDN'T EVER do cam if they were broadcasted in their country, exactly like they wouldn't be models for adult magazines, or strippers before cams existed. Obviously, there was a possibility of being recognized (VPN, relatives living in other countries, but well, very low). So, we can't say sentences like "if they did this, they should have thought about the consequences". They thought, they looked for information, they did technical checkups: it's not exactly what you call "irresponsible". And, for at least 5 years, it went exactly like this. So there are girls i knew on cam, in years 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, of which on the net DOESN t EXIST A TRACE. Their work was available only on streaming, in the "club" of the site, and in the countries they wanted their stream to be available. Then, they quit camming, and they can be safe everywhere.
Now, what an incredible and unfair privilege this could be, to the eyes of the ones that, after 2015? have ALL recorded and, especially, depicted in PICS , through the upstore-related sites? Why they can't be safe as the other ones, and have to fear for revenge or blackmails of ex-friends, ex-lovers, colleagues? And, another thing: the ones that put a private video on web, like the ones that brought Tiziana to suicide, did an illegal thing. But if tomorrow an ex camgirl i know makes me angry for some reason, and instead of telling her bad words on the phone, i decide to link to their upstore "screen caps picture" on her facebook timeline, so to bring her dad to heartache directly, I COULD! And i would even NOT DO SOMETHING ILLEGAL... because the link already exists! So, do you understand what a "help" to revenge porn it is? Ok, i won't go on with other examples or paradoxes... but i hope people on the forum witll think also about this issue, not only the copyright or the "bloodsucking".
Point 2) If we talk about law, and then we say "ok, even if they force them to quit, they will begin again somewhere else", we can also stop it here... it's obvious that i'm trying to do all this because i think law should be respected. I simply think that, considering the "good" and the "bad" of both law angles (copyright laws or DMCA laws VS. 18 U.S.C. 2257), i still prefer to believe in this second one, for many reasons. The first, and most important, is that there isn't a "perfectly clear" certification about the copyright, who is owner of what, etc... who is the owner? The model? The site? The studio ? And when there are more sites? And copyright for what? To stay on bed naked? I mean, it's not a song, a movie, a poem... It's ridiculous to talk about copyright, really! And in fact, i didn't see any effect of DMCA laws on the "upstore-related" sites, at least. The second, is that, with the DMCA laws, we don't know exactly who would be the ones who had interest to sue the sites company... i mean... Smores, i really appreciate your serious attitude to the problem, but really do you think that there would be 100 webcam models that don't have a life apart of being webcam models, that would show themselves in a court more happily than a site owner? Yes, maybe i am "fooling myself", but i'm not the only one! On the contrary, in a court based on 2257,it would need only 10 "serious sites" (brazzers.com? suicide girls? reality kings? ... a bunch of porn or adult sites that FOLLOW 2257), to sue them for "unfair competition"... i mean, when in my field, tv and radio broadcasting, i had legal problems, it was always because some other stations reported something about my company to the law. So, why should other sites go on following law, when there are those ones who don't? That's the point... i would like to bring other sites to sue them, instead of models. But, since FBI itself told me, for 3 times, I AM RIGHT, but i'm an italian guy counting nothing, i simply think that many people, especially americans, calling FBI and asking for it, would help a lot! So, i'm here asking, at least, to try!
And do you know why i think that, if "tormented" by FBI a few times, these upstore-related sites guys would quit? Because, i continue thinking, they don't make ENOMOUS amount of money. This doesn't mean, they don't do it at all. They're making money, because they don't have any expense. But, if they have to begin with lawyers etc, or simply changing place every week, they would prefer quitting. Especially, because you have to LOOK at those sites, look there and tell me, really, WHERE IS THE MONEY?
No ads! No banners! Nothing! A upstore link... so, theoretically, a revenue on upstore memberships... for what? To look at CAM PUBLIC SHOWS? recorded? Where you can look at them for free? Or even recorded, like on camwh.ores? Do you really think out there there are lots of people paying for this continuously?
Obviously, not. It's OBVIOUS that the blackmail purpose is the only "core business" of it. We can't sue a purpose, but we have to know it exist... and FBI or POLICE should do all its best to prevent blackmail... so, since they can't arrest them for "purpose" of blackmail, they should arrest them for 2257!!!! But with the same EFFORT they would put in the ones who blackmail young girls and boys, of showing their porn pics to their parents!!! With the same RAGE, ANGER, HATRED i would put in it!!!
Sorry, i am emotionally touched in this. I am very angry with FBI that doesn't take this seriously. I really hope there will be no other Tiziana Cantone anywhere, but, if there will be, i really would like to hear what FBI will tell!!!!! knowing they did NOTHING!!!
Thank you again, i tried to explain my "points" at my best.
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@ricciarelli I was not rejecting your S2257 approach. I was simply pointing out that this would be round one of a multi-round fight. Winning on this point does not give you a win for the war. It's only a first step.
Suing them on copyright and hoping for a no-contest lawsuit is a whole new level of complexity. I totally understand if you are not up for that fight. Maybe someday an Internet billionaire who likes webcam models will see my post and start a foundation.
I understand your frustration with the law enforcement. A long time ago a buyer tried to rip me off on eBay. I put together a lot of things and realized he was sending bad checks to every single seller. This was back when eBay allowed you to trace through auctions and see all the buyers so piecing it together was easy. I was able to contact most of those sellers, then contact the real owner of the checking account he was trying to use, and it saved a lot of people a lot of money (more than $30K). As part of that I contacted the FBI, and they were more interested in who I was than in the crime I was reporting. I literally handed them the address that items were being shipped to, the name of the bank account holder who the buyer was writing fraudulent checks against, and the contact information for the sellers who had been defrauded. And it was over $25K, which is the FBI threshold for investigation. They did nothing, even though all the facts were laid out in such a way that they could have done a straightforward sting operation. Law enforcement has too much on their plate. This is why criminals get away with these kinds of activities for quite awhile before they are finally caught.
Suing them on copyright and hoping for a no-contest lawsuit is a whole new level of complexity. I totally understand if you are not up for that fight. Maybe someday an Internet billionaire who likes webcam models will see my post and start a foundation.
I understand your frustration with the law enforcement. A long time ago a buyer tried to rip me off on eBay. I put together a lot of things and realized he was sending bad checks to every single seller. This was back when eBay allowed you to trace through auctions and see all the buyers so piecing it together was easy. I was able to contact most of those sellers, then contact the real owner of the checking account he was trying to use, and it saved a lot of people a lot of money (more than $30K). As part of that I contacted the FBI, and they were more interested in who I was than in the crime I was reporting. I literally handed them the address that items were being shipped to, the name of the bank account holder who the buyer was writing fraudulent checks against, and the contact information for the sellers who had been defrauded. And it was over $25K, which is the FBI threshold for investigation. They did nothing, even though all the facts were laid out in such a way that they could have done a straightforward sting operation. Law enforcement has too much on their plate. This is why criminals get away with these kinds of activities for quite awhile before they are finally caught.
I am not sure if anyone has had any luck with Upstore.net but I did!!!
I WAS FINALLY SUCCESSFUL GETTING MY LINKS REMOVED OFF OF UPSTORE.NET
THIS IS HOW I DID IT AND IT WORKED!!!!
So I like everyone else Googled my Chaturbate screenname and saw all the videolinks and photos online. I ran across this forum and learned about DMCA's and frantically began sending them to every site affiliated with any link that had my photo or vid posted. While I am still trying to get other pics and videos down from other sites I was having the hardest time with Upstore.net because they were ignoring my DMCA requests. So I went on the Whois and started sending to every private admin and technical website I could find but NO LUCK.
So I thought outside the box and signed up for an UpStore.net account under a false email address. I didnt pay anything I just signed up to gain access to their customer service ticket system. I sent a message stating that I was having a problem with my bank account approving the charge and I needed the owner of the website. Of course they opened a ticket on the request because they want money and responded that I could give an authorization number.
Now here is the trick. Because the ticket request is time stamped and shows the conversation between you and Upstore.net drop your DMCA into the next message response. They open it and have no choice but to respond. After doing this less than 24 hrs. my downloads were removed.
The only issue I am having are with sites like rec-tube, gaywebcamblog, tsvideos, shemalez.org, camshow.biz, shemale.directory, trans-sex-cam.com, and imgfox. Has anyone had success getting photos and videos removed from these site?
Well I hope that this advice helps you girls. I posted a screenshot to prove it worked.
TsSparkle
I WAS FINALLY SUCCESSFUL GETTING MY LINKS REMOVED OFF OF UPSTORE.NET
THIS IS HOW I DID IT AND IT WORKED!!!!
So I like everyone else Googled my Chaturbate screenname and saw all the videolinks and photos online. I ran across this forum and learned about DMCA's and frantically began sending them to every site affiliated with any link that had my photo or vid posted. While I am still trying to get other pics and videos down from other sites I was having the hardest time with Upstore.net because they were ignoring my DMCA requests. So I went on the Whois and started sending to every private admin and technical website I could find but NO LUCK.
So I thought outside the box and signed up for an UpStore.net account under a false email address. I didnt pay anything I just signed up to gain access to their customer service ticket system. I sent a message stating that I was having a problem with my bank account approving the charge and I needed the owner of the website. Of course they opened a ticket on the request because they want money and responded that I could give an authorization number.
Now here is the trick. Because the ticket request is time stamped and shows the conversation between you and Upstore.net drop your DMCA into the next message response. They open it and have no choice but to respond. After doing this less than 24 hrs. my downloads were removed.
The only issue I am having are with sites like rec-tube, gaywebcamblog, tsvideos, shemalez.org, camshow.biz, shemale.directory, trans-sex-cam.com, and imgfox. Has anyone had success getting photos and videos removed from these site?
Well I hope that this advice helps you girls. I posted a screenshot to prove it worked.
TsSparkle
22ndHello all,
I am new to this forum but I thought I would take suggestions from the more experienced cam girls. I am trying to get my broadcast streams down from upstore. I have sent dmca complaints to upstore just today and I was wondering if they respond to DMCA complaints.
I have read in forums on ACF that some cam models reported the upstore links so I was wondering how they got to it. Also, I am using cammodelprotection. I don't know how effective they are. If they are effective then I would update you guys
Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing. All I got when I tried this was that they disabled the account that I created and videos are still up.
I notice they did that to me as well when I go to the site from the computer that I submitted the DCMA from it says something like issue 404 however I know it worked cause when I visit the links that I sent in the DCMA letter from another computer the links show like in my screenshot. It doesn't hurt to try. But I hope someone can give me infor on how to TAKEDOWN rec-tube, gaywebcamblog, shemalez.org, trans-sex-cam.com, and imgfox. If anyone has useful information let me know.
XOXO
Tssparkle
XOXO
Tssparkle
If you're an online performer, people are going to record you. That is just the bottom line. Some people will upload to sites like Upstore which require a premium account to access. Others will upload to sites like Camwhores, Xvideos, Pornhub, etc... Access to content on these sites is available to anyone without restriction. Some people will just record you for their own collection. But you are going to be recorded. You can minimize your exposure but you cannot avoid it altogether. Not without finding a new line of work. If you are able to convince Upstore or any site to remove your content, consider yourself lucky. A quick look at their About page shows they operate out of Cyprus. They are under no legal obligation to remove anything. I imagine the only reason they ever remove content is to play nice with the U.S so they can keep showing up in Google search results.
Fighting a legal battle with parties not bound by U.S. law makes no sense. You'd be better off befriending a hacker group. Of course, even if you managed to somehow completely erase every shred of your pirated content, someone would simply record your next broadcast and upload it to a tube site or file sharing site. It's two steps forward and one step back. Although in this case, more like two steps forward and two steps back. You're just spinning your wheels without really going anywhere. If your pirated content resides only on a file sharing site like Upstore, I would consider yourself fortunate. People have to pay for access and I think most people are just not willing to do that. I know I'm not. If it were me and I decided to become a cam model, I think I would TRY to put it out of my mind until I turned my webcam off for the very last time. It's an uphill battle either way. But it makes more sense to me, to fight the battle at a point in time when you're not resupplying ammunition to the opposing side. That's just my two cents.
Fighting a legal battle with parties not bound by U.S. law makes no sense. You'd be better off befriending a hacker group. Of course, even if you managed to somehow completely erase every shred of your pirated content, someone would simply record your next broadcast and upload it to a tube site or file sharing site. It's two steps forward and one step back. Although in this case, more like two steps forward and two steps back. You're just spinning your wheels without really going anywhere. If your pirated content resides only on a file sharing site like Upstore, I would consider yourself fortunate. People have to pay for access and I think most people are just not willing to do that. I know I'm not. If it were me and I decided to become a cam model, I think I would TRY to put it out of my mind until I turned my webcam off for the very last time. It's an uphill battle either way. But it makes more sense to me, to fight the battle at a point in time when you're not resupplying ammunition to the opposing side. That's just my two cents.
Hmuhm, just a guy who might be able to help
..or were you looking for a more extensive answer?
Wondering why you'd expect a forum full of cam models to trust a complete stranger with no credentials.Hmuhm, just a guy who might be able to help
So far NO one could really delete from the server. Some girls could make them unavailable through upstore but even for the girls who can "delete" from upstore the same files can be accessed through another site of that network. These files even have the same watermarks.
That's a fair question.
I don't want to elaborate too much in a public thread.
..but if everything else has failed - what's there to loose sending a pm?
I cannot guarantee I will help, even though I can - but I will at least consider it.
I realize this might sound like a lot of BS, but I'm more than happy to explain and elaborate to yo in a PM if you want. It sure it will make more sense then.
What other site?
He's probably a person with good intentions posting requests to the "dark net" of hackers.
The problem is those people aren't reliable. They might help you hack the site to win a favor. They might blackmail you. They might actually make your problems worse.
This reminds me of those famous Photoshop request sites where people post photos and make requests for anonymous users to change the photo to some specification. There is a group of Korean troll hackers who patrol those sites who make hilarious changes to the photos. For example the following photo was posted with the request "remove the guy with the camera reflection and have only me and the guy behind me".
Hacker #1 saw the request and produced this photo:
Hacker #2 saw the request and created this:
Or my favorite of all time was the guy who wanted a bear added to this photo:
The hackers gave him this:
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