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SadieN said:
The skype thing is news to me, I've been independently camming with Skype for years now. Countless skype shows with all kinds of random people and pervies. Eh, oh well. I'm not really worried about it. Skype is so common and I'm so unpopular that I doubt I'm going to happen to stumble across someone who is actually out to hurt me with it.


Yeah, there are tons of models on MFC who use Skype, and I've never heard about the Skype issue until the first time I read it on here. I think that most guys who get a Skype show aren't sitting there going "Ooh, I can get her location...hehehe!!!" And they probably don't even know HOW to get the info anyway.

And obviously, if someone decides to post that info on here step-by-step (um...please don't do that...), then yeah, everyone who reads this forum will know.
 
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The_Brown_Fox said:
SadieN said:
The skype thing is news to me, I've been independently camming with Skype for years now. Countless skype shows with all kinds of random people and pervies. Eh, oh well. I'm not really worried about it. Skype is so common and I'm so unpopular that I doubt I'm going to happen to stumble across someone who is actually out to hurt me with it.


Yeah, there are tons of models on MFC who use Skype, and I've never heard about the Skype issue until the first time I read it on here. I think that most guys who get a Skype show aren't sitting there going "Ooh, I can get her location...hehehe!!!" And they probably don't even know HOW to get the info anyway.

And obviously, if someone decides to post that info on here step-by-step (um...please don't do that...), then yeah, everyone who reads this forum will know.

I think you keep your personal information out of Skype like your phone number, etc, you should be fine I would think.
 
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The_Brown_Fox said:
When you're in public chat telling your viewers that you're going to ______ (insert the name of a place), and someone asks "Which one are you going to?," don't actually tell them which one you're going to. It's nobody's business exactly which New York strip club you'll be at tonight.

Just saying "I'm going out for some drinks later" should suffice. If you really wanna tell everyone the name of the place, and it's not a place where you work or frequently visit, at least wait 'til you're back home later and say "I went to ______ in Queens."
I nearly killed my friends when I found out they tagged me in a post saying. "With @meganmedellin in (name of shopping center) watching (name of movie) "
It's important to let your friends how important your safety is. Learned that the hard way.
 
PlayboyMegan said:
The_Brown_Fox said:
When you're in public chat telling your viewers that you're going to ______ (insert the name of a place), and someone asks "Which one are you going to?," don't actually tell them which one you're going to. It's nobody's business exactly which New York strip club you'll be at tonight.

Just saying "I'm going out for some drinks later" should suffice. If you really wanna tell everyone the name of the place, and it's not a place where you work or frequently visit, at least wait 'til you're back home later and say "I went to ______ in Queens."
I nearly killed my friends when I found out they tagged me in a post saying. "With @meganmedellin in (name of shopping center) watching (name of movie) "
It's important to let your friends how important your safety is. Learned that the hard way.
Me, too! My friend who I introduced to MFC said my first name in her chat one day. "(First name)... I mean Lily..." :roll: ) Thank God there were only 30 or so people in there, but still. Two of them were regulars of mine. :woops: I was so mad at her. I had told her sooo many times before how important it was that she wouldn't say my real name anywhere ever.
 
PlayboyMegan said:
I nearly killed my friends when I found out they tagged me in a post saying. "With @meganmedellin in (name of shopping center) watching (name of movie) "
It's important to let your friends how important your safety is. Learned that the hard way.


I knew of a cam model who would tweet thinks like "I'm at the Burger King on _____ Street in NYC." :think:

My dad told me that the daughter of his coworker posted on Facebook that her family would be out of town on such and such dates, and then their house was broken into while they were away. People on FB (and sometimes on cam sites) tell too much of their business sometimes.
 
spikyhaired said:
ISPs give up this information to law enforcement and pretty much anyone who requests it for a "legitimate" reasons with almost no fuss (law enforcement, copyright lawyers, anyone who can sue them, etc.)

I'd be highly highly surprised in such a litigious country as the US and the size of fines the courts their impose...

In the UK there is an ongoing court case over a copyright producer attempting to get users information via their IP's from ISP's. It is all done through court order only, not a warrant, as it is a private matter not a public (i.e. police matter). To give out personal information such as the address would be a violation of the Data Protection Act.

As for friends in Law Enforcement, they'd also be breaking the law and liable to lose their job and possibly receive a criminal record.

I would say the risk from this method is extremely low.
 
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Zoomer said:
spikyhaired said:
ISPs give up this information to law enforcement and pretty much anyone who requests it for a "legitimate" reasons with almost no fuss (law enforcement, copyright lawyers, anyone who can sue them, etc.)

I'd be highly highly surprised in such a litigious country as the US and the size of fines the courts their impose...

In the UK there is an ongoing court case over a copyright producer attempting to get users information via their IP's from ISP's. It is all done through court order only, not a warrant, as it is a private matter not a public (i.e. police matter). To give out personal information such as the address would be a violation of the Data Protection Act.

As for friends in Law Enforcement, they'd also be breaking the law and liable to lose their job and possibly receive a criminal record.

I would say the risk from this method is extremely low.

In the US warrants are court orders. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrant_(law) Though I agree there is little danger from ISP's just giving out information without either a warrant or court order. It has happened but it leaves them open to being sued.
 
:D

So at that point I'd politely say that saying "DO NOT USE SKYPE" is needless scare mongering. Worse still, its misleading.

I could get the girls IP address simply by hosting an image on my webserver and pasting the url into the pvt chat window to a model. No need for Skype (which not many models use) whatsoever.

Suddenly Skype is as big a risk as the very means through which you work. Are you going to stop working on MFC or other such sites now? No, and nor should you. The risk is extremely low and requires people to break the law in order to achieve it.

So my advice is be sensible and apply precautions as advised in this thread. But don't go insane as to remove all things which are highly unlikely bordering on virtually impossible ways to find out who you are - as the only way to do that is not doing the job full stop!
 
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Zoomer said:
:D

So at that point I'd politely say that saying "DO NOT USE SKYPE" is needless scare mongering. Worse still, its misleading.

I could get the girls IP address simply by hosting an image on my webserver and pasting the url into the pvt chat window to a model. No need for Skype (which not many models use) whatsoever.

Suddenly Skype is as big a risk as the very means through which you work. Are you going to stop working on MFC or other such sites now? No, and nor should you. The risk is extremely low and requires people to break the law in order to achieve it.

So my advice is be sensible and apply precautions as advised in this thread. But don't go insane as to remove all things which are highly unlikely bordering on virtually impossible ways to find out who you are - as the only way to do that is not doing the job full stop!
would the model have to actually click on the URL for you to get her ip?
 
MyDesertRose said:
would the model have to actually click on the URL for you to get her ip?
Yes.
It's not that easy with an image. When I post an URL of an image, MFC loads the image by itself and caches it on mfc servers. For example: http://img.myfreecams.com/chat_images/c ... 3.200x.jpg So I won't get the ip of the model.
But when I paste the url to something else on my server and you click it, you go directly to the site and someone could see your ip. That's one reason why we get this message, when we click on an URL:
Warning: you are accessing a site not affiliated with MyFreeCams.com. Beware of scams and exercise caution if asked to provide personal information such as your password or email address.
I'm not sure, but I guess models will get a similar message.
This is just how mfc handles it. I don't know what other sites do to protect your privacy.
 
Stahlfaust said:
MyDesertRose said:
would the model have to actually click on the URL for you to get her ip?
Yes.
It's not that easy with an image. When I post an URL of an image, MFC loads the image by itself and caches it on mfc servers. For example: http://img.myfreecams.com/chat_images/c ... 3.200x.jpg So I won't get the ip of the model.
But when I paste the url to something else on my server and you click it, you go directly to the site and someone could see your ip. That's one reason why we get this message, when we click on an URL:
Warning: you are accessing a site not affiliated with MyFreeCams.com. Beware of scams and exercise caution if asked to provide personal information such as your password or email address.
I'm not sure, but I guess models will get a similar message.
This is just how mfc handles it. I don't know what other sites do to protect your privacy.
Lmao guys post links in my room all the time! I never click any of then for that reason. But I'm going to laugh so hard one day when some weirdo posts a URL to get and ip and another member clicks I instead of the model. Nice job, dude. You just found the relative location of a middle aged man who lives in his mom's basement, owns a ruger 22, and collects duck figurines. I wonder what's gonna happen if you somehow get his exact address and show up looking for a cam model.
 
We can't click links on our side. It comes out as plain text. Probably for this reason.
 
Stahlfaust said:
AmberCutie said:
We can't click links on our side. It comes out as plain text. Probably for this reason.
Ah yes, that makes sense. :)

Yeah, back before they fixed the scrolling bug, people would post a youtube link and I'd be all "okay, NO ONE TYPE so I can copy-paste this link" and then someone would be all "why not?" in the middle of the process and I'd be highlighting the wrong text.

And so one dude started the trend of sending the link in public and pm. But then, some people wouldn't stop typing in the pm so that I could grab the link there. I was like "DUDE, STOP! You're defeating the purpose of putting it in pm! let me copy it before you say anything else."

and then he says "okay". :woops:

Ah the "good old days" :lol:
 
I take it you will all know that some phones/cameras include GPS data in the photo which can easily be retrieved by others if you upload it online?
 
spikyhaired said:
LadyLuna said:
Dogpatch1992 said:
I would just like to add something, duno if this has been said or not, but im not going to read everything in this thread.

IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer), but my understanding of the current legal landscape is that ISPs *can* give the subscriber information to anyone they want, and they generally *do* give it to anyone who seems to have a reasonable request. The ISPs will always comply with a warrant, but most will give it to anyone who files any one of several "notices" with them--DMCA takedown/investigation request, subpoena, legal discovery, etc. Sometimes this is as basic as a "request" on official letterhead that is faxed to the ISP's compliance department.

As I mentioned above, I'm not trying to stoke the flames of paranoia. The vast majority of trolls would never be able to follow up on any threats to "look up your IP and track you down". A very small percentage, those with the proper industry or law enforcement contacts or the necessary social skills, could potentially do so.

:twocents-02cents:

I won't tell you how I know this because a stalker will likely figure me out (kidding), but an ISP won't give anyone's address to a caller (or e-mailer) that asks for the personal information of someone who was using an ip address at a specific time, fakes a DMCA concern, etc. The ISP acts as the middle-man, and handles the complaint themselves. Most ISPs have entire departments dedicated to handling abuse complaints, and the method is not to give out personal information about their customers, but to investigate the complaints themselves and decide whether or not to terminate the customer for a violation of their acceptable use policy/terms of service. Also, the ISPs get LOTS of DMCA complaints, so they have relationships with the people who are sending legit ones. The abuse team at any ISP is going to be smart enough to know a fake DMCA e-mail from a real one, they will require logs of the problematic activity in order to compare it to their own logs, and they will know what faked logs look like. And even if there is no abuse team or abuse person, there's some network operations engineer who, I assure you, does NOT feel like tracking down the owner of a static IP address for any random boner with an e-mail account. It would be a major privacy breach if an ISP divulged that information. However, if the FBI shows up with a subpoena, the ISP will hand them whatever they want.

I'm not saying not to be careful, but I just want to say that models shouldn't worry about your ISP giving your personal information to stalkers unless you have the shadiest ISP in the entire world who absolutely loves lawsuits and seeks them out for fun adventure times. :)
 
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just because im bored as frak: i've had trolls and flamers threaten me a bunch over the years. heck i've been on the net in some form or another since the mid 90s. each and every time i have asked them why bother to hunt down my isp or whatever it is they say theyll do. i've offered to give them my name address and phone number (at least during the time periods i didnt have to pay for minutes). surprisingly not a one has taken me up on the offer. btw, i don't live in my mom's basement, but i am a fat middle aged dude. the ruger is a .45 not a 22, but i laughed my ass off at the imagery.

i always wonder if ppl who threaten that realize that if they went to "visit" someone after threatening them, there isnt a state in the union where killing them wouldnt be considered self defense?
 
LilyMarie said:
PlayboyMegan said:
The_Brown_Fox said:
When you're in public chat telling your viewers that you're going to ______ (insert the name of a place), and someone asks "Which one are you going to?," don't actually tell them which one you're going to. It's nobody's business exactly which New York strip club you'll be at tonight.

Just saying "I'm going out for some drinks later" should suffice. If you really wanna tell everyone the name of the place, and it's not a place where you work or frequently visit, at least wait 'til you're back home later and say "I went to ______ in Queens."
I nearly killed my friends when I found out they tagged me in a post saying. "With @meganmedellin in (name of shopping center) watching (name of movie) "
It's important to let your friends how important your safety is. Learned that the hard way.
Me, too! My friend who I introduced to MFC said my first name in her chat one day. "(First name)... I mean Lily..." :roll: ) Thank God there were only 30 or so people in there, but still. Two of them were regulars of mine. :woops: I was so mad at her. I had told her sooo many times before how important it was that she wouldn't say my real name anywhere ever.

Ugh. Some guy came into my chaturbate room the other day saying "I know you IRL" and I was like, "that's cool", trying to keep the convo light and steer it away from the inevitable. He continued to say, "We went to highschool together at _____" (the name of my actual high school.) Before I could ban him, he finished with, "Bye, *myrealname*" and logged out - and since chaturbate has it set so that you can't ban someone once they're out of your room, I'm terrified he's going to come back and just give out my identity.

I mean, yeah, cool dude. you find some girl you went to school with diddling herself on a porn site. It is NOT okay to potentially endanger her by giving out her real info...ugh. I'm so upset. Plus I don't even know who it is IRL because his screen name was something like "gaksd3423523"

Ugh, ugh, ugh.
 
LeDahliaNoir said:
LilyMarie said:
PlayboyMegan said:
The_Brown_Fox said:
When you're in public chat telling your viewers that you're going to ______ (insert the name of a place), and someone asks "Which one are you going to?," don't actually tell them which one you're going to. It's nobody's business exactly which New York strip club you'll be at tonight.

Just saying "I'm going out for some drinks later" should suffice. If you really wanna tell everyone the name of the place, and it's not a place where you work or frequently visit, at least wait 'til you're back home later and say "I went to ______ in Queens."
I nearly killed my friends when I found out they tagged me in a post saying. "With @meganmedellin in (name of shopping center) watching (name of movie) "
It's important to let your friends how important your safety is. Learned that the hard way.
Me, too! My friend who I introduced to MFC said my first name in her chat one day. "(First name)... I mean Lily..." :roll: ) Thank God there were only 30 or so people in there, but still. Two of them were regulars of mine. :woops: I was so mad at her. I had told her sooo many times before how important it was that she wouldn't say my real name anywhere ever.

Ugh. Some guy came into my chaturbate room the other day saying "I know you IRL" and I was like, "that's cool", trying to keep the convo light and steer it away from the inevitable. He continued to say, "We went to highschool together at _____" (the name of my actual high school.) Before I could ban him, he finished with, "Bye, *myrealname*" and logged out - and since chaturbate has it set so that you can't ban someone once they're out of your room, I'm terrified he's going to come back and just give out my identity.

I mean, yeah, cool dude. you find some girl you went to school with diddling herself on a porn site. It is NOT okay to potentially endanger her by giving out her real info...ugh. I'm so upset. Plus I don't even know who it is IRL because his screen name was something like "gaksd3423523"

Ugh, ugh, ugh.
Wtf??

I would e-mail Chaturbate about this. And do so repeatedly until I got an answer. There has to be a way for them to ban him from coming into your room. Your safety is more important than anything else; if they don't take that seriously then... A) assassinate the head guy and make Evvie CEO of Chaturbate (she always knows what she's talking about) B) leave the site. And let me know, too. If they don't do anything about something this serious then I want to leave. That'd be the final drop in the bucket for me.
 
LeDahliaNoir said:
LilyMarie said:
PlayboyMegan said:
The_Brown_Fox said:
When you're in public chat telling your viewers that you're going to ______ (insert the name of a place), and someone asks "Which one are you going to?," don't actually tell them which one you're going to. It's nobody's business exactly which New York strip club you'll be at tonight.

Just saying "I'm going out for some drinks later" should suffice. If you really wanna tell everyone the name of the place, and it's not a place where you work or frequently visit, at least wait 'til you're back home later and say "I went to ______ in Queens."
I nearly killed my friends when I found out they tagged me in a post saying. "With @meganmedellin in (name of shopping center) watching (name of movie) "
It's important to let your friends how important your safety is. Learned that the hard way.
Me, too! My friend who I introduced to MFC said my first name in her chat one day. "(First name)... I mean Lily..." :roll: ) Thank God there were only 30 or so people in there, but still. Two of them were regulars of mine. :woops: I was so mad at her. I had told her sooo many times before how important it was that she wouldn't say my real name anywhere ever.

Ugh. Some guy came into my chaturbate room the other day saying "I know you IRL" and I was like, "that's cool", trying to keep the convo light and steer it away from the inevitable. He continued to say, "We went to highschool together at _____" (the name of my actual high school.) Before I could ban him, he finished with, "Bye, *myrealname*" and logged out - and since chaturbate has it set so that you can't ban someone once they're out of your room, I'm terrified he's going to come back and just give out my identity.

I mean, yeah, cool dude. you find some girl you went to school with diddling herself on a porn site. It is NOT okay to potentially endanger her by giving out her real info...ugh. I'm so upset. Plus I don't even know who it is IRL because his screen name was something like "gaksd3423523"

Ugh, ugh, ugh.
If you remember the username, try this: It will ban them from your room without them actually being in it.
Code:
http://chaturbate.com/roomban/dickwad's username/your username/
It works. It may only ban the username and not the ip, but anything is better than nothing I suppose. It will come up on the screen and say OK in the top left corner of the page. That's how you know it worked.
Say I want to ban you for some reason....
Code:
http://chaturbate.com/roomban/ladahlia/mercedes_live/
No I am not banning you, just giving you an example. It can also keep known scammers and con artists out of your room as well if you know their name and they are not in your room.
 
Thanks guys!
Unfortunately I don't remember his screen name...all I remember is that it had the name "paul" in it.

If I email support I wonder if they'd be able to narrow it down, or go through my chat logs?
 
Hey guys/gals,

I am StephyyKitteh's boyfriend (she can feel free to confirm this :D), and I was told to post some bits of information I told her about in another thread. I am actually heavily involved in HackForums, and am a trusted user there. I have quite an extensive knowledge when it comes to these sort of things.

When it comes to using Skype, I get that girls like to use it. But there are tools that allow a person to get your IP through skype. You don't have to click on a link, download a picture. You really only have to be in a chat with a person, and if they have this tool they can get your IP address. (I was told to leave out specific names to prevent this from spreading). Once they have that, they can do whatever they want with it. They can throw it into a site like this: http://www.ip-tracker.org/ and get a pretty darn good idea of where you live. Not to mention they can essentially shut off your internet at will, whenever they want, for as long as they want. This is illegal, and is known as a DDoS or DoS attack (Distributed Denial Of Service, Denial Of Service). (Again I was told to not give the names of said tool).

I don't want to say "Stay away from skype", but you never know who has access to these tools, and who would be willing to use them.
 
Badger said:
Hey guys/gals,

I am StephyyKitteh's boyfriend (she can feel free to confirm this :D), and I was told to post some bits of information I told her about in another thread. I am actually heavily involved in HackForums, and am a trusted user there. I have quite an extensive knowledge when it comes to these sort of things.

When it comes to using Skype, I get that girls like to use it. But there are tools that allow a person to get your IP through skype. You don't have to click on a link, download a picture. You really only have to be in a chat with a person, and if they have this tool they can get your IP address. (I was told to leave out specific names to prevent this from spreading). Once they have that, they can do whatever they want with it. They can throw it into a site like this: http://www.ip-tracker.org/ and get a pretty darn good idea of where you live. Not to mention they can essentially shut off your internet at will, whenever they want, for as long as they want. This is illegal, and is known as a DDoS or DoS attack (Distributed Denial Of Service, Denial Of Service). (Again I was told to not give the names of said tool).

I don't want to say "Stay away from skype", but you never know who has access to these tools, and who would be willing to use them.
Holy cow you were fast with this! :) I know I will not be offering Skype for strangers now. Is there a way for girls to safeguard against this? Like going through a proxy? If you feel for whatever reason your answer has potential to educate hacker-wannabes please ask Steph to post in the models only or even PM me. I was depending on Skype sessions to save my myfreecams career. But given recent events I value my safety more than my camscore.

Thanks again, you two rock!
 
RoseCavilla said:
Holy cow you were fast with this! :) I know I will not be offering Skype for strangers now. Is there a way for girls to safeguard against this? Like going through a proxy? If you feel for whatever reason your answer has potential to educate hacker-wannabes please ask Steph to post in the models only or even PM me. I was depending on Skype sessions to save my myfreecams career. But given recent events I value my safety more than my camscore.

Thanks again, you two rock!

The best way to protect yourself from this are to use a proxy (There are plenty of tutorials on how to use a proxy), or to use a VPN (Virtual Private Network). Both allow you to hide your IP, and if someone tried to get it through Skype, they would get a fake one, that wouldn't be able to lead back to you.

This goes for all models that consider doing Skype shows. I am not saying that every person you do a Skype show with will do this, but it could never hurt to take that extra precaution.

And I can also tell her to post some more specific information too.

If anyone needs anything else, feel free to ask. I am not an expert by any means, but I do have a good knowledge of these kinds of issues.
 
Badger said:
RoseCavilla said:
Holy cow you were fast with this! :) I know I will not be offering Skype for strangers now. Is there a way for girls to safeguard against this? Like going through a proxy? If you feel for whatever reason your answer has potential to educate hacker-wannabes please ask Steph to post in the models only or even PM me. I was depending on Skype sessions to save my myfreecams career. But given recent events I value my safety more than my camscore.

Thanks again, you two rock!

The best way to protect yourself from this are to use a proxy (There are plenty of tutorials on how to use a proxy), or to use a VPN (Virtual Private Network). Both allow you to hide your IP, and if someone tried to get it through Skype, they would get a fake one, that wouldn't be able to lead back to you.

This goes for all models that consider doing Skype shows. I am not saying that every person you do a Skype show with will do this, but it could never hurt to take that extra precaution.

And I can also tell her to post some more specific information too.

If anyone needs anything else, feel free to ask. I am not an expert by any means, but I do have a good knowledge of these kinds of issues.

Oh, and I do claim him as my own! :3
If any models want to know more, feel free to PM me, or him. :)
 
May I suggest the VPN route and not just for models, members should use one too. I was just talking to a model tonight who mentioned this thread and was telling her which one I use. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/

There's many out there, both free and paid. The free ones tend to limit you in some way and really should just be used as a training period to get use to the idea. The one I just mentioned is $39 a year and has multiple servers you can connect to ensuring a good connection on one if another is slow at the moment, currently approx. 20 from around the world. They offer a simple software download option so there's no complicated settings to set up. Simply run the software and you're connected to an encrypted connection to a different part of the world. (first time use does require you to enter username and password but it remembers it from then on)

The main reason I suggest everyone should use it is not only for the security of people not being able to track you down by your IP address but because now in the US most of the people are being monitored by their internet service providers. With the music and film industry getting total bullshit legislation passed and convincing ISP's to monitor their users for music and movie downloads people are now getting warnings, bandwidth throttling, cancellation and even judicial penalizations when they do. This isn't a comment on the moral rights and wrongs of doing that activity, it's moral outrage that my very activities on the internet are being tracked from yet another source.

So if you do decide to go with a VPN you might want to do some research on the various companies and find out if they themselves track what you do, keep records, where are they based, and how easily they will cooperate with law enforcement.

The company I mentioned above keeps no records. You are connected in a group block of people so even if they did they wouldn't have any way of knowing which person did what. And they have publicly stated they would not be able to physically comply with any court order to turn over records since none are kept in the first place. In other words I like them.

As for multiple connections with them. I currently have their software installed on a desktop and two laptops and have manually added their server to my tablet (following very easy instructions they have in their FAQ).

End result now is when I start up my computer I start that software. The only thing my ISP detects is information going to one place and nothing else. They and everyone else on the internet have no idea what I am doing now. The way it should be. And when I'm at college using my tablet on their wifi to browse MFC the school doesn't know either. And yes I opt out of google tracking and use anonymous search engines and many other steps, but that is a different thread.
 
What I dont understand, it actually makes me wanna slam my head into my keyboard. Is what many of the girls from Romania do to "protect their privacy". They will claim to be living in Spain and be Spanish but playing a Romanian radio station. Anyone that hasn't heard Romanian probably has heard Spanish and would easily know this isn't Spanish and be curios of where she actually is. One model even still claimed to be Spanish even though on her wish list it gave the name of the studio(not even just a manager's name) and the city in romania where it was located. If a studio wants people to think its models are in Spain they should tell them to play Spanish Radio Stations and use a mail forwarding address in spain.

Another thing is the webcam models living there and working out of their own place not studio,but claiming to be in the United States. Not only can someone easily tell that the apartment is European and not American,they don't even use a vpn to attempt to appear to be from America if someone blocked North American Models. If your not going to make your apartment look american and use a vpn to appear to be logged in from America what is the point of telling people you live in America.

Another thing that is counter productive to privacy that webcam studios do is sometimes put a watermark of their name on a models photo or have a banner in the room telling the name of the studio.
 
vlad.mazare said:
What I dont understand, it actually makes me wanna slam my head into my keyboard. Is what many of the girls from Romania do to "protect their privacy". They will claim to be living in Spain and be Spanish but playing a Romanian radio station. Anyone that hasn't heard Romanian probably has heard Spanish and would easily know this isn't Spanish and be curios of where she actually is. One model even still claimed to be Spanish even though on her wish list it gave the name of the studio(not even just a manager's name) and the city in romania where it was located. If a studio wants people to think its models are in Spain they should tell them to play Spanish Radio Stations and use a mail forwarding address in spain.

Another thing is the webcam models living there and working out of their own place not studio,but claiming to be in the United States. Not only can someone easily tell that the apartment is European and not American,they don't even use a vpn to attempt to appear to be from America if someone blocked North American Models. If your not going to make your apartment look american and use a vpn to appear to be logged in from America what is the point of telling people you live in America.

Another thing that is counter productive to privacy that webcam studios do is sometimes put a watermark of their name on a models photo or have a banner in the room telling the name of the studio.


I would not put much stock in where any model said they are, on MFC. The only honest answer most would be willing to give is "None of your business". I for one get a kick out of some of the places they make up.
 
Exactly. I used to visit a Canadian model whose profile said she was from Turkey. When I asked her, she said she thought it was cute...lol...since it would be very unlikely for a cam model to be able to operate in a muslim country, even a rather moderate one like Turkey.
 
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