Interaction?

[zippypinhead]

A lot of the time, when I'm working (I work from home) I'll find a nice stream and put it on to play in the background as something to listen to or look at. I don't do much chatting, since I'm working, and I just wonder if being there, but not chatting, is seen as rude. Most of the time, I end up in rooms full of people, so I can pretend I'm just another name on the list, but sometimes, when there's less than ten people, and nobody is chatting, I don't stick around long because I don't want to be a creep. Then again, in a lot of those rooms, it's not as if the models are going out of their way to greet people when they enter, despite the low number of people in the room.

So, what's a the deal with interaction? It definitely seems like the models who actually pay attention to their chat and respond have the most success, but what do models expect of members? Is it cool to stay on your public channel for a long time and not talk? (I know that basic members and guests on MFC are often muted, and I can only assume that's to cut down on trolling and begging and other inane chatter.) And what if a guy doesn't have any credits? I often would like to say something, but then get shy because I can't tip at that moment. Obviously this is a social interaction, and public rooms imply that you can participate for free, but I do know that models are there to make money, and I'm happy to tip when I can. So, would it be better to just interact with a model with the intention to tip at a later time, or just keep mum until you've got money in hand?

I know this is a loaded question, but I've been wondering about this sort of etiquette for a long time. Seems like a good place to ask.

 

[Shaun__]

If you are not going to talk or tip, why not just use the lounge or log in as a guest?

 

[Evvie]

A lot of the time, when I'm working (I work from home) I'll find a nice stream and put it on to play in the background as something to listen to or look at. I don't do much chatting, since I'm working, and I just wonder if being there, but not chatting, is seen as rude. Most of the time, I end up in rooms full of people, so I can pretend I'm just another name on the list, but sometimes, when there's less than ten people, and nobody is chatting, I don't stick around long because I don't want to be a creep. Then again, in a lot of those rooms, it's not as if the models are going out of their way to greet people when they enter, despite the low number of people in the room.

So, what's a the deal with interaction? It definitely seems like the models who actually pay attention to their chat and respond have the most success, but what do models expect of members? Is it cool to stay on your public channel for a long time and not talk? (I know that basic members and guests on MFC are often muted, and I can only assume that's to cut down on trolling and begging and other inane chatter.) And what if a guy doesn't have any credits? I often would like to say something, but then get shy because I can't tip at that moment. Obviously this is a social interaction, and public rooms imply that you can participate for free, but I do know that models are there to make money, and I'm happy to tip when I can. So, would it be better to just interact with a model with the intention to tip at a later time, or just keep mum until you've got money in hand?

I know this is a loaded question, but I've been wondering about this sort of etiquette for a long time. Seems like a good place to ask.

Zippy, you are going to get lots of different answers. Here is my philosophy, which is definitely not universal:

There is no reason you should be watching a model if you are not going to pay her. Models make many judgments based on room counts, and it is extremely frustrating to have a room with 700 members and she can't make a basic hourly goal because all of them are just using her as background noise. You do not deserve or have a right to enjoy free entertainment when she is online trying to make a living.

If you are dealing with an extremely popular model, I would say it isn't that big of a deal. But if you are watching a model who's room count is less than 100, staying and watching for hours on end without saying a word and without tipping may end up being extremely frustrating to her.

Some women, on the other hand, think very differently from me. They would argue that you are thinking about tipping later so you should be able to enjoy the free show, your presence in the room inflates their room count, that members need a while to warm up to a model in order to tip, et cetera.

You should probably just ask the model if she is okay with you perving for a few hours without talking or tipping. None of us here can really say what each individual model would feel about it.

 

[Jupiter551]

Yeah I'd give a small tip and explain my actions and ask if she was cool with it.

 

[zippypinhead]

I am new to MFC, and still learning the ropes. I've usually stuck to LiveJasmin, so the setup where models do shows on public chat is actually something I'm not used to. I'm used to coming to a model, and paying for private, or I don't get to see a show, and models who don't want to deal with freeloaders just make use of the Member Chat function. It seems a lot easier to establish some sort of rapport with the model that interests you on LJ, since getting the model alone is the point there. That doesn't seem to be the case on MFC, since the setup seems to be more friendly toward working for tips in a crowded room, rather than renting out time to individuals. Maybe I'm wrong on that.

Perhaps I should just stick to Netflix.

 

[ComicOzzie]

To me, the greatest benefit of MFC (besides the emotes :lol: ) is the fact that we can easily interact with beautiful women without having to take them private. I have gotten to know a wide variety of women because I like to chat with them in public. Using MFC as background video seems to defeat the purpose of the site.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[Evvie]

I am new to MFC, and still learning the ropes. I've usually stuck to LiveJasmin, so the setup where models do shows on public chat is actually something I'm not used to. I'm used to coming to a model, and paying for private, or I don't get to see a show, and models who don't want to deal with freeloaders just make use of the Member Chat function. It seems a lot easier to establish some sort of rapport with the model that interests you on LJ, since getting the model alone is the point there. That doesn't seem to be the case on MFC, since the setup seems to be more friendly toward working for tips in a crowded room, rather than renting out time to individuals. Maybe I'm wrong on that.

Perhaps I should just stick to Netflix.

Zippy, while the focus on MFC usually is public interaction and a big group environment, that is not always the case. Many models would probably be very happy with private shows, although they can be very expensive.

 

[AmberCutie]

I don't mind when people watch me in the background, or use my room as a sort of background noise for other chores/work at home. However, there are 2 things that make this less "annoying freeloading motherfucker" and more "polite watcher-from-a-distance":

1. Tip. Seriously, just do it. It doesn't matter if it's during my cam time, or offline, or how much (though I'd suggest at least 10 tokens) but doing this with a tip note or following it with an MFC mail noting that you enjoy listening to me/watching non-interactively is the right thing to do. I am providing something for you, so you should provide something for me. Basic courtesy and sense. Ya?

2. If you're doing this frequently, watch as a guest. It's one less name in the room that we have to wonder WTF they're doing since they aren't talking or tipping. If you aren't on as a guest, send your decently sized tip toward the beginning of your watch-session with a tip note being friendly and noting your intended quietness, and I'm sure the model will remember your name when she sees it in the name list throughout the night.

And if you do just wanna be a freeloader here's a tip: watch as a guest, and never ever, ever, bring it up again. Once we know about it, it pisses us off. If you never mention it, it's a lot easier to take. :thumbleft:

 

[LailaBaise]

^ thanks x 1000 up there.

 

[Jessi]

She is providing you with entertainment. You're enjoying her show, by using it as background noise. Please, please, please, please tip once in a while!
I cant describe how anxiety inducing to see a bunch of premium names and feel ignored. Imagine dancing around naked for 500 men who wont speak or tip.

Other things you can do:

Perv as a guest
Listen to podcasts
Listen to the radio
Aljazeera live stream is a favourite of mine while doing chores http://www.aljazeera.com/

 

[Nordling]

:lol: I imagine it's even creepier when the silent, non-tipping premium has a member name like "MrCash" or "DeepPockets" or similar.

 

[Jessi]

:lol: I imagine it's even creepier when the silent, non-tipping premium has a member name like "MrCash" or "DeepPockets" or similar.

While perving I came across (a talking!) basic called "pimpornking" or somesuch. Yes, rollin in dat hoe money Im sure.
I don't know what you heard about me But a bitch can't get a dollar out of me

 

[mynameisbob84]

If it's purely backround noise you're after, I would recommend Spotify. It's free with adverts or $10 a month without :thumbleft:

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

If it's purely backround noise you're after, I would recommend Spotify. It's free with adverts or $10 a month without :thumbleft:

Ya it is pretty cool site, but I've never heard a girl cumming loudly on it, much less discussing making out with all of the girls at cam mansion.

That said Amber's advice seem spot on tip sometimes, or perv as a guest.

 

[zippypinhead]

I hadn't thought about how not interacting while signed in would be hurtful to my reputation as a member. It's certainly something for me to bear in mind. I'll definitely be buying credits asap, though.

If it's purely backround noise you're after, I would recommend Spotify. It's free with adverts or $10 a month without :thumbleft:

Ya it is pretty cool site, but I've never heard a girl cumming loudly on it, much less discussing making out with all of the girls at cam mansion.

This may sound a little dumb or weird, but it's also the idea that there are people there, hanging out. It makes things just a little less lonely, kinda like sitting in a coffee shop, except that the only person we can see is the barista, and she's naked and she ain't serving coffee (or something-- sorry, strained analogy.) If it were just about the noise, there are plenty of other options.

 

[UncleThursday]

Now, what's been said in here being equal, I also think models don't mind regulars and repeat tippers if they just do this sort of thing.

I end up doing it sometimes, myself, on weekends. But only with models who know me and have been the recipients of tips from me in the past and will in the future. Amber might think I'm an OK dude, but I'm not in her room enough, nor tipped her enough to really feel like I can sit in there while I read something else, or edit game footage or whatnot. Some other models I have known for a while, sure, they don't mind, especially if I chime in now and then in the chat or with a tip, or both.

If I really am just looking for background noise with MFC, though, I would follow Shaun's advice, and stick to the lounge. The model won't know you're watching, so you won't end up being a name in her room. You can set it cycle through cams at intervals, and then stop it when something catches your ear (a laugh, a story, etc.). And, trust me, if you're new to MFC, you really don't want to be interacting with most of the people in the regular lounge, anyway.

 

[RogueWarrior]

First of all, I applaud you for having enough initiative to post your question on this forum.

Practically speaking, if you are just using MFC as background and have no intention of interacting or tipping, there is absolutely no reason to log in under your premium account. Just perv (or use as background noise) as a guest. Then everything else becomes moot.

Realistically speaking (and for me personally), don't log on if you don't intend to tip. That's just me, but something (I think because I never portend to speak for anyone other than myself) the models appreciate.

We've all been new to the site, not knowing what the hell we were doing at some point. You live, you learn. It does take a while to figure it all out (if you care, because a lot don't).

I can only relate to you my experiences. I sporadically visit a model with a very high camscore and a very active room. I'm not a regular by any means. But I only visit when I have tokens (as I only log on when I have tokens). I always tip. Not exhorbitantly, but always something. It may have been a week, a month, six weeks, 2 months since I was last in her room. But you know what? She always acknowledges me. Not a unique situation either. Know what that says to me? While witty reparte may be appreciated, it takes a back seat to interaction with tokens. Bottom line, it's still a business. That vodka-induced rabbit trail was free.

Back to the OP: I personally think that you are not getting the full MFC experience if you are only using it as background. Interaction (including tipping) is what make the site great.

 

[zippypinhead]

The lounge seems like a pretty great perk. I hadn't noticed it until it was mentioned here.

And, yeah, I do intend to use the service for more than just to have something going on in the periphery of my attention, but as far as MFC is concerned, I'm still figuring my way around and easing into a dynamic that's new to me.

 

[AmberCutie]

I hadn't thought about how not interacting while signed in would be hurtful to my reputation as a member. It's certainly something for me to bear in mind. I'll definitely be buying credits asap, though.

If it's purely backround noise you're after, I would recommend Spotify. It's free with adverts or $10 a month without :thumbleft:

Ya it is pretty cool site, but I've never heard a girl cumming loudly on it, much less discussing making out with all of the girls at cam mansion.

This may sound a little dumb or weird, but it's also the idea that there are people there, hanging out. It makes things just a little less lonely, kinda like sitting in a coffee shop, except that the only person we can see is the barista, and she's naked and she ain't serving coffee (or something-- sorry, strained analogy.) If it were just about the noise, there are plenty of other options.

I totally DO agree that listening to a cam girl (one who is chatty and fun) is different and more fulfilling to have on as background noise than music. I do it too! But ONLY with girls I've tipped before and that I'm familiar with and plan to tip again. :thumbleft:

I totally agree with and know where you're coming from. I'm just hoping to point you in the direction of doing it the RIGHT way.

 

[Diana Blake]

I'm a super talker so I have a lot of people on streamate that do exactly what you do, they like to hear my random chatter and I like to talk between privates and gold shows so I don't bore myself to death. I usually greet members, especially if I recognize their name but I have a rule, say hi to me at some point. I don't care if you are using me as background noise but at least say hi within the first few minutes you're in my room.

If something I'm saying catches your interest then join the conversation, I love to talk but I do eventually run out of things to say to myself. :lol:

 

[mynameisbob84]

I hadn't thought about how not interacting while signed in would be hurtful to my reputation as a member. It's certainly something for me to bear in mind. I'll definitely be buying credits asap, though.

If it's purely backround noise you're after, I would recommend Spotify. It's free with adverts or $10 a month without :thumbleft:

Ya it is pretty cool site, but I've never heard a girl cumming loudly on it, much less discussing making out with all of the girls at cam mansion.

This may sound a little dumb or weird, but it's also the idea that there are people there, hanging out. It makes things just a little less lonely, kinda like sitting in a coffee shop, except that the only person we can see is the barista, and she's naked and she ain't serving coffee (or something-- sorry, strained analogy.) If it were just about the noise, there are plenty of other options.

To each their own, sir For me, the biggest selling point of MFC is the interaction. If MFC was just a live stream of a model and there were no means of interacting with the person on screen, I'd likely never log on. But your coffee shop analogy makes sense :thumbleft:

 

[Anonymous]

Is it cool to stay on your public channel for a long time and not talk?

Since it's a CHAT room, I feel that if you don't want to chat or tip, the best thing to do is log out and watch as a guest. At least as a guest or basic, you CAN'T talk (in most rooms). If you're a premium, you CAN talk in her room, but are choosing not to. And if, for whatever reason, you're not speaking to the model at all, it'd be nice to at least tip her a little something. I'd be annoyed if I saw 'hardandhorny' logged in for 30 minutes straight, yet he hasn't talked or tipped.

Most models are aware that guys can't tip ALL THE TIME. So as long as you're being nice and chatting with her (and it's not begging/making demands), you'll probably be fine. Also, if you're not comfortable talking in front of other guys, you can communicate with her via tip notes or a private show. In my opinion, PMs should only be used for truly private topics...not because you're too shy to talk in public.

Then again, in a lot of those rooms, it's not as if the models are going out of their way to greet people when they enter, despite the low number of people in the room.

The thing is when we try being friendly and greeting guys by name ("Hi, Mark!"), a lot of times those guys immediately leave the room. I see this ESPECIALLY on Streamate. Hell, I could even just say "Hi, guys!," and I still have people leaving the room immediately. Maybe they're afraid the next thing I'll say is "TIP ME!!!!!" LOL.

Some guys on this forum have actually admitted that they don't like it when a model greets them by name. I'm not sure if those guys prefer that she A) just says "Hi, guys!" or B) only says hi to guys who've said hi first. ???

 

[ComicOzzie]

The lounge seems like a pretty great perk. I hadn't noticed it until it was mentioned here.

Say that after 5 minutes actually reading what goes on in the lounge, and I'm gonna start to think that you are not quite right in the head.

 

[zippypinhead]

The thing is when we try being friendly and greeting guys by name ("Hi, Mark!"), a lot of times those guys immediately leave the room. I see this ESPECIALLY on Streamate. Hell, I could even just say "Hi, guys!," and I still have people leaving the room immediately. Maybe they're afraid the next thing I'll say is "TIP ME!!!!!" LOL.

Some guys on this forum have actually admitted that they don't like it when a model greets them by name. I'm not sure if those guys prefer that she A) just says "Hi, guys!" or B) only says hi to guys who've said hi first. ???

It really can be a strange dynamic, especially since there's money, or at least the implication of money, involved. In general, I prefer to be acknowledged, because it means that the model cares about getting my attention, and thus my business. On the other hand, as you say, sometimes a guy just runs out of credits, so surfing around incognito can be preferable. I'll always respond to notice, though, because that's just common courtesy.

That stated, the thing that does mean a model won't be getting my business is if I come into a room with no chat activity, say hello, and get no response.

 

[SaffronBurke]

Personally, if I want background noise, I pull up Pandora, YouTube, Netflix, etc. There's plenty of options on those to hear people talking, and plenty of folks on YouTube are sitting around talking to their computer.

If I'm on MFC as a premium, it's because I want to chat with/tip my favorite models and actually interact. If I can't afford tokens at the moment, I at least contribute toward the conversation and I don't ask for anything, even when I can tip - I'm a "Just because" type of tipper, and there's usually enough going on that it's not necessary (to me) to ask for anything special.

 

[Anonymous]

With the amount of guys that pop in and out of SM rooms, saying a separate hi to each person sounds silly. Kinda like when a guy on MFC is giving a model a yellow wall of 5 tokens tips...she'd sound silly saying "Thank you!" after EVERY back to back tip. So I say thank you for the first one, keep smiling, and when he's finished the yellow wall I tell him "Thank you so much!"

On Streamate I feel like a jackass sitting there going "Hi, Bobby! Hi, Peter! Hi, Greg!," and all three of those guys leave as soon as I greet them. So I think I'm better off just smiling at the room and saying "Hey, guys!" periodically...and greet certain members by name (the regulars who I know will answer).

 

[zippypinhead]

With the amount of guys that pop in and out of SM rooms, saying a separate hi to each person sounds silly. Kinda like when a guy on MFC is giving a model a yellow wall of 5 tokens tips...she'd sound silly saying "Thank you!" after EVERY back to back tip. So I say thank you for the first one, keep smiling, and when he's finished the yellow wall I tell him "Thank you so much!"

On Streamate I feel like a jackass sitting there going "Hi, Bobby! Hi, Peter! Hi, Greg!," and all three of those guys leave as soon as I greet them. So I think I'm better off just smiling at the room and saying "Hey, guys!" periodically...and greet certain members by name (the regulars who I know will answer).

Yeah, I get that. You don't want your entire session to be a series of hellos and thank-yous. And, of course, if you're in a room that's just buzzing with chatter, that's just not going to be feasible. However, it seems a little common, at least in LiveJasmin, where I enter a room-- sometimes even the room of a girl I've bought private time with just recently-- and it is very quiet and she is looking bored, and so I greet the model, only to be met with silence. That's a turn-off.

 

[LadyLuna]

Yeah, I get that. You don't want your entire session to be a series of hellos and thank-yous. And, of course, if you're in a room that's just buzzing with chatter, that's just not going to be feasible. However, it seems a little common, at least in LiveJasmin, where I enter a room-- sometimes even the room of a girl I've bought private time with just recently-- and it is very quiet and she is looking bored, and so I greet the model, only to be met with silence. That's a turn-off.

The difference here is that you greet the model and she doesn't respond. Understandably, that is definitely a turn-off. We were thinking you meant, you enter the room and expect a hello before you've said anything.

I believe I've had issues where the guy will throw a fit at me not having responded, however as far as I could tell I'd only just received the hello and was in the middle of saying hello back when he said "fuck you" and left. I also, just the other day on Streamate, had an instant where all of a sudden four messages from this one guy popped up on my screen at the same time, even though it was obvious there had been some time between his writing of them. I have pretty damn decent internet, so it's possible that the model isn't getting your hello before you get around to leaving.

 

[zippypinhead]

That's a good point. There could certainly be lag involved. As has already been mentioned many times in this thread, a little tip is a good way to get a girl's attention, if only just because of the sound it makes, so I usually give a token these days, if I'm looking for a response. I haven't been ignored whenever I've done that.

 

[RogueWarrior]

I usually give a token these days, if I'm looking for a response. I haven't been ignored whenever I've done that.

Well done, grasshoppah.