MFC vs. CB

[callmepete]

Cons: support is pretty bad, rules are inconsistently applied and lately there is just too many server and connectivity problems.

With the exception of the latter I'd agree with this statement. Lately the server/connectivity issues have actually been WAY less frequent (unless you're talking about OBS, lots of issues there still for some models). I agree completely on support. I SIGNIFICANTLY scaled back my token spend because of MFC's lack of give-a-shit about member issues, lack of two-factor authentication for models and/or members, complete and total lack of response when the answer to a tech support question isn't readily available, and several other things. When I heard they were actively advertising on one of the most notorious pirate sites for model videos, that was kind of my last straw. From a model perspective I'm sure it's quite different, but as a member, my personal perception is that MFC truly doesn't give a shit about people, only about revenue. Which is fine, that's certainly a business model a lot of companies succeed with, but it's not a company I'm going to support financially. There's too many other ways to support my friends on MFC and show appreciation.

While I don't necessarily think it's too little too late, I do agree there should have been more of a jump start to get stuff shifted to HD/nonflash especially.

Agree 100%, definitely not too late! If you look around at the other businesses owned by MFC/Leo, it's clear his PRIMARY focus is on shrinking the bottom line, not growing the top line, and I think that migration to HD/Nonflash just went too much against that model. Now that hands are being forced, it's a little different story.

Keep in mind it's easier to build with new technologies from the ground up, but having to keep platforms running that were coded ages ago and still update them with newer stuff is a different story.

Boy, we're so on the same wavelength here Amber lol. I will add that one of the reasons they're having to work with such old code is because they've never really made upgrading a priority. I suspect (hope?) once they're a little more caught up they remember that going forward. You don't have to be bleeding edge, but leading edge isn't a bad place to be

 

[SpookybunzSM]

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What does "socialize" even mean? I've only been on mfc for three months. Is socializing=getting close to a model? I had the feeling mfc users generally wanted to be much "closer" to me than my cb users (asked for my snap, insta, kik, whatsapp, only used pm or mail, "almost" dating me) whereas on cb there was a harder barrier between me and my users, which is more what i like. And if may say, it was completely sexualized too but a lot more 1:1 as opposed to...say...a ticket show for my twenty regular users at cb, which is a "gang" feeling.

At the beginning, it's hard not to sell your soul to your regulars keeping you paid. Which is one of the things I don't like about MFC.
It can take a long time to build up momentum on MFC, and an even longer time to build up a consistent room with regulars and chatters that don't just want one on one attention. And nothing kills traffic like a model sitting there typing for most of their show.
I personally like having my own free time off cam, and don't want to spend all my time chatting with regulars out of fear of loosing my income. I had a very similar experience to you, where it's easier to build a group of followers on CB than on MFC. I experienced moderate success on both sites, but MFC burnt me out way faster than CB did.

 

[Mila_]

With the exception of the latter I'd agree with this statement. Lately the server/connectivity issues have actually been WAY less frequent (unless you're talking about OBS, lots of issues there still for some models). I agree completely on support. I SIGNIFICANTLY scaled back my token spend because of MFC's lack of give-a-shit about member issues, lack of two-factor authentication for models and/or members, complete and total lack of response when the answer to a tech support question isn't readily available, and several other things. When I heard they were actively advertising on one of the most notorious pirate sites for model videos, that was kind of my last straw. From a model perspective I'm sure it's quite different, but as a member, my personal perception is that MFC truly doesn't give a shit about people, only about revenue. Which is fine, that's certainly a business model a lot of companies succeed with, but it's not a company I'm going to support financially. There's too many other ways to support my friends on MFC and show appreciation.

Um.. I was talking about Chaturbate´s cons in that paragraph... not MFC. My experience with MFCs support was always excellent and I have no idea if they are having server problems at the moment because I havent cammed there since 2015. We have 2 factor authentication on CB since last year, but I personally hate it cause I end up getting locked out half the time with how many phones and computers I fry on the regular.

 

[Yarrow]

I personally prefer MFC although it's a lot harder to get a foothold there in my opinion.

I started on CB and cammed there exclusively for over a year and a half. I liked the lack of cam score but I disliked just about everything else. Not sure about all they have changed in the past three years but when I was camming there it was hard to find tip history, I wished for more data and stats to compare shows and ideas with, I hated most of the bots and felt many people would not tip if I didn't have some sort of bot game going. I did a ton of creative shows there that 80% of the time flopped, partially in my opinion, due to the bot culture at the time. Fortunately, now I see people being successful without bots really being used and that makes me very happy. Fuck those bots, man. I felt it created a learned helplessness in members. The site crashed about 2-3 times a week when I cammed there --- or was just horribly laggy. Support was slow to respond and used canned answers. The crack down on costumes and playing games grates on my soul. When I was there you couldn't drink but it seems like they have relaxed that. I have not cammed there in nearly two years because they won't get back to me about updating my ID - so I basically threw up my hands and walked away. I'd like to cam on there occasionally again just to see what happens, but I'd need a name update and that sweet 'new model' tag to entice me back. I do however, miss selling a video or two a day every time I cammed there --- when people would go find my ManyVids or AmateurPorn links. That was nice income.

MFC can be stressful as fuck but I prefer it because I feel like I am in more control. It takes more offline time for someone like me to be successful there (but probably on any site) but to be honest CB took me more time for me. Which seems bizarre but maybe it's just because I was learning the ropes more then. I feel like my creative shows are far more appreciated on MFC than they ever were on CB and I am thankful I don't feel like a slot machine anymore. The cam score is a love/hate thing for me - but I appreciated that it has forced me to hustle more. MFC support has written back to me like there are real humans answering back. The stats are so so much better. MFCshare has been a great recent resource. I can drink what I want, wear what I want, play games, watch shows and movies, and just be more creative and feel like I will get support from members. I do far far better on MFC than I was doing on CB and have about 1/10th-1/25th of the viewers I had on a daily basis when I cammed only on CB.

 

[softnipple]

All of my fav models are on CB but im a MFC girl, so I go with CB, i get a better connection with them.

 

[camhappy]

On MFC...I don't know...closely connect to (aka socialize with) users and hope there's a whale? ... mfc is still a black box for me and i'm still monitoring mfc, because it kinda bugs me really, that I do not understand it.

On MFC, unlike most camsites, the camfans will often talk to each other in a civil manner and this produces a hangout atmosphere. Because the hangout atmosphere can resemble a small party, it has the power to keep users in a chatroom for much longer periods of time despite the fact that little sexual titillation may be offered.

The traditional criticism of 'porn' ( I hate labels too, erotic entertainment would be better) over decades has been that it can become boring. IMO, because MFC can also offer "socialization" (hangout atmosphere) as well as sexual titillation, it has gotten around the 'boredom factor' and created a powerful new tool for cam models to apply.

 

[AmberCutie]

On MFC, unlike most camsites, the camfans will often talk to each other in a civil manner and this produces a hangout atmosphere. Because the hangout atmosphere can resemble a small party, it has the power to keep users in a chatroom for much longer periods of time despite the fact that little sexual titillation may be offered.

The traditional criticism of 'porn' ( I hate labels too, erotic entertainment would be better) over decades has been that it can become boring. IMO, because MFC can also offer "socialization" (hangout atmosphere) as well as sexual titillation, it has gotten around the 'boredom factor' and created a powerful new tool for cam models to apply.

Well said!

 

[camhappy]

Well said!

It also seems that for MFC models who can create a hangout atmosphere in their rooms, the size of their individual tips will be much larger and more frequent than what we see on CB, despite CB's larger room sizes. Actually I'm pretty much repeating what I read in a Kindle novel, The Camgirl's Assistant. The author comes up with an interesting psychological and financial analysis of a fictional camsite that sure looks a lot like MFC.

 

[QuinnLane]

Chaturbate, for the $50 minimum payout and for the very helpful apps/bots, and the fact that they allow trans performers.

It's impossible for me to payout on MFC without dropping $200+ to get my passport so I can sign up for Paxum, or trying to somehow make $2000 to get it wired. I find MFC's layout confusing as well.

 

[rstanton]

Some CB models have been able to create a hang out atmosphere in their rooms (tiffanyriox is the most successful one I've seen) but they sure don't attract hundreds of viewers on that site.

 

[camhappy]

Some CB models have been able to create a hang out atmosphere in their rooms.

True, the trend for CBate models to encourage conversation for a "hangout atmosphere" increases with time. But the practice of running Menus, Advertisements, Games in the chat window disturbs most chances that conversations can persist and evolve. Of course, a clever model could put their Menu over the window in the Tag Area and rarely allow promotions in the chat window -- but that doesn't seem to be happening. However, StripChat is a young and interesting site. Despite its small size, they do a better job of generating a "hangout atmosphere" than CBate due to fewer ads in the chat window, and that also encourages a larger font size for conversation. And despite a seemingly smaller population of users, the more proficient SChat models still manage to develop persistent followings and large room counts.

 

[chocolatebunnydrop]

"hangout atmosphere" means being able to sit and chat in rooms right? Instead of always just performing?

 

[Deleted member 37064]

"hangout atmosphere" means being able to sit and chat in rooms right? Instead of always just performing?

Correct. It's one of the draws of MFC in that the model will typicall chat in open with members, while working towards a goal with some teasing, etc. There has to be a dynamic connection between the model and members though, so it usually takes a while for a model to build a following and a model will see members come and go as time goes on.