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[Tragaveli]

Tragaveli, I understand that you want to promote a site idea to give it some steam before it is ready.

Many people advertise their cam-related startups on this form. They understand that it is hard to attract good models and they work hard to do so.

Your original post has no actual information on the site, even a URL or name. Yes, you provided that later on, but instead of saying "We're an upcoming site that will provide X, Y, and Z. Here is a list of hard information about payouts, money, membership costs, security measures, traffic, et cetera," you said, "this is a concept for a site with no information that models look for when considering new sites."

I know you have none of that information, and that's the problem. It is okay to promote a beta site, but you aren't even to that stage yet. This concept is pre-alpha.

You seem excited about this project and frustrated that people aren't excited about it too. However, you have given no reason for anyone to be excited about it, because there is no info for us to latch on to and be happy about. I think your concept is interesting, but you should start promoting it when you have some of the information mentioned above, not at a stage when you have to tell interested models, "I don't have any information for you about the site I want you to sign up on."

I understand and I apologized if I jumped the gun. But I figured it would be better this way. If you demanded a percentage you'd want to make then I can easily run that by the website owner. That is why i told the models to PM me with any concerns.

 

[Mirra]

That is why i told the models to PM me with any concerns.

But this is way more fun, no? Trial by motherfuggin' fire! Careful though. Some of the models DO bite.

 

[Tragaveli]

What makes your fan club better than the membership site I already have on C4S? Essentially it's the same thing, right? Member pays a set fee, I get a cut, you get a cut and they get 30-days access to my streaming videos?

If it HAS to be exclusive content, then I'm not interested. I need a place that I can upload any of my pre-made videos. If that's something that could change in the future, I imagine there could potentially be girls interested once the site is up and running and earning.

There is no difference, that's exactly the site we're producing. If I can talk him into allowing videos that you sell already then cool. But who want's to pay for videos that everyone has already? The reason he asks for exclusive videos is because nobody can see the videos unless they sign up to the website. If there are people sharing the content on our website I guarantee we'll seek legal action and people will pay more than what they bargained for.

In order for your site to flourish, it has to be better than C4S otherwise why would someone want to produce content for your site. I have 167 videos between two stores and a membership site for each of those stores. Not everyone has all my clips, if they did, I'd be out of business.

If I pulled my videos off C4S and sold them exclusively with this site, I could potentially be losing thousands a month. I realize this is a brand new business, but without being able to see it prove itself first, it's just never going to happen.

We need to see real figures.
We need to see a real site.
We need to know payout options, methods, fees.
We need to know what our cut is.
We need to know what the site requires from us.
We need professionalism from people attempting to recruit us.
We need cold, hard facts--not maybe this or possibly that.

The website isn't designed to cater to the "pervs" only to the model. The only video we accept is ones that are specifically made for the website. So if you want to view any of the videos on our site you'd have to pay for a monthly membership.

How would a member know they want to see a video? Do we advertise ourselves?

Of course, it's as simple as posting on your profile "To view my exclusive content join http://www.hercampics.com/forums/" If you're fanbase is solid they'll definitely sign up.

 

[Evvie]

That is why i told the models to PM me with any concerns.

But this is way more fun, no? Trial by motherfuggin' fire! Careful though. Some of the models DO bite.

We do bite sometimes :lol: Travaveli, I am curious as to how you are connected with this site? You talk about how your friend created it and will run it, so should we take that to mean you are just a friend interested in helping to promote it? Or are you also a staff member?

My current primary questions are, how do you plan to enforce the exclusive nature of your videos? And, do you really think the exclusive nature of videos will be a strong enough lure to match already hugely popular video selling sites like ELM, MGF and C4S? You suggest that models will have to advertise their own content, so unless a model is already very popular with a huge fanbase (id est, could sell her videos on her own), it seems unlikely an average model would see any action on this site.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Of course, it's as simple as posting on your profile "To view my exclusive content join http://www.hercampics.com/forums/" If you're fanbase is solid they'll definitely sign up.

:lol:

So I need to make exclusive content (which believe it or not takes a lot of time), upload to a brand new site that already has the odds stacked against it AND advertise myself? Sorry, no. Clips4Sale advertises me, ExtraLunchMoney advertises me, Streamate advertises me.

If I wanted to put all my content up on a site and advertise myself, I'd buy a domain and sell my clips exclusively via my own site for 100% of the profit.

 

[Tragaveli]

That is why i told the models to PM me with any concerns.

But this is way more fun, no? Trial by motherfuggin' fire! Careful though. Some of the models DO bite.

We do bite sometimes :lol: Travaveli, I am curious as to how you are connected with this site? You talk about how your friend created it and will run it, so should we take that to mean you are just a friend interested in helping to promote it? Or are you also a staff member?

My current primary questions are, how do you plan to enforce the exclusive nature of your videos? And, do you really think the exclusive nature of videos will be a strong enough lure to match already hugely popular video selling sites like ELM, MGF and C4S? You suggest that models will have to advertise their own content, so unless a model is already very popular with a huge fanbase (id est, could sell her videos on her own), it seems unlikely an average model would see any action on this site.

Lol I'm tryin to respond to any and every concern there is here. You guys/gals are making it very hard for me. Put it this way. if your camscore is 400 or 40,000 I personally don't care. I help all girls that are willing to hear what I have to say. I'm highly intelligent when it comes to making tokens. Yes, I'm only on MFC but I help any girls that ask for it. I make friends with good tippers simply to direct them to any models that I help, this one tipper for example brought this website idea to me and I thought it was a great idea for models to make money without selling their videos for cheap. If you want to PM me on MFC for further advice on how to make tokens then I'm all for it. I'm simply suggesting this website because I fell it's a better way to make money without MFC making a cut from your tokens. And of course other sites are welcomed, I'm only a member of MFC that's why I only bring that site up.

 

[Evvie]

That is why i told the models to PM me with any concerns.

But this is way more fun, no? Trial by motherfuggin' fire! Careful though. Some of the models DO bite.

We do bite sometimes :lol: Travaveli, I am curious as to how you are connected with this site? You talk about how your friend created it and will run it, so should we take that to mean you are just a friend interested in helping to promote it? Or are you also a staff member?

My current primary questions are, how do you plan to enforce the exclusive nature of your videos? And, do you really think the exclusive nature of videos will be a strong enough lure to match already hugely popular video selling sites like ELM, MGF and C4S? You suggest that models will have to advertise their own content, so unless a model is already very popular with a huge fanbase (id est, could sell her videos on her own), it seems unlikely an average model would see any action on this site.

Lol I'm tryin to respond to any and every concern there is here. You guys/gals are making it very hard for me. Put it this way. if your camscore is 400 or 40,000 I personally don't care. I help all girls that are willing to hear what I have to say. I'm highly intelligent when it comes to making tokens. Yes, I'm only on MFC but I help any girls that ask for it. I make friends with good tippers simply to direct them to any models that I help, this one tipper for example brought this website idea to me and I thought it was a great idea for models to make money without selling their videos for cheap. If you want to PM me on MFC for further advice on how to make tokens then I'm all for it. I'm simply suggesting this website because I fell it's a better way to make money without MFC making a cut from your tokens. And of course other sites are welcomed, I'm only a member of MFC that's why I only bring that site up.

That was very interesting, but I see you are not interested in answering my questions. I feel that you really should not be promoting a site if you have nothing to say on it. We aren't trying to make things hard for you, I'm not being mean. I'm asking valid questions.

If I may, I would like to once again suggest you hold off on promoting a site until you have information to share. I don't want to be rude, but your lack of any knowledge about the site is a bit of a turn-off. You can't even say if you are working for the site or not.

 

[Tragaveli]

Of course, it's as simple as posting on your profile "To view my exclusive content join http://www.hercampics.com/forums/" If you're fanbase is solid they'll definitely sign up.

:lol:

So I need to make exclusive content (which believe it or not takes a lot of time), upload to a brand new site that already has the odds stacked against it AND advertise myself? Sorry, no. Clips4Sale advertises me, ExtraLunchMoney advertises me, Streamate advertises me.

If I wanted to put all my content up on a site and advertise myself, I'd buy a domain and sell my clips exclusively via my own site for 100% of the profit.

If you want to make your own website that's cool, you wouldn't need us. Our website provides advertisement with little effort, simply post in a forum like you're doing now. I don't know why this is harder than what it reall is. Lol

 

[AllisonWilder]

In my experience, the only members that have ever been vocal about how MFC shouldn't be taking a cut of our earnings are guys that wanted a cheaper experience for themselves.

This site would take a cut, yes? The only difference here is that instead of MFC (or any other site) getting their percentage, it would be you.

Seems legit.

 

[Evvie]

Of course, it's as simple as posting on your profile "To view my exclusive content join http://www.hercampics.com/forums/" If you're fanbase is solid they'll definitely sign up.

:lol:

So I need to make exclusive content (which believe it or not takes a lot of time), upload to a brand new site that already has the odds stacked against it AND advertise myself? Sorry, no. Clips4Sale advertises me, ExtraLunchMoney advertises me, Streamate advertises me.

If I wanted to put all my content up on a site and advertise myself, I'd buy a domain and sell my clips exclusively via my own site for 100% of the profit.

If you want to make your own website that's cool, you wouldn't need us. Our website provides advertisement with little effort, simply post in a forum like you're doing now. I don't know why this is harder than what it reall is. Lol

I believe the point is, you want models to advertise the content that you get a cut of. The only models who will sell content on your site are those who already have a fanbase, and therefore do not need you to sell their videos. Allison's argument is that your site is a needless middleman.

 

[Tragaveli]

That is why i told the models to PM me with any concerns.

But this is way more fun, no? Trial by motherfuggin' fire! Careful though. Some of the models DO bite.

We do bite sometimes :lol: Travaveli, I am curious as to how you are connected with this site? You talk about how your friend created it and will run it, so should we take that to mean you are just a friend interested in helping to promote it? Or are you also a staff member?

My current primary questions are, how do you plan to enforce the exclusive nature of your videos? And, do you really think the exclusive nature of videos will be a strong enough lure to match already hugely popular video selling sites like ELM, MGF and C4S? You suggest that models will have to advertise their own content, so unless a model is already very popular with a huge fanbase (id est, could sell her videos on her own), it seems unlikely an average model would see any action on this site.

Lol I'm tryin to respond to any and every concern there is here. You guys/gals are making it very hard for me. Put it this way. if your camscore is 400 or 40,000 I personally don't care. I help all girls that are willing to hear what I have to say. I'm highly intelligent when it comes to making tokens. Yes, I'm only on MFC but I help any girls that ask for it. I make friends with good tippers simply to direct them to any models that I help, this one tipper for example brought this website idea to me and I thought it was a great idea for models to make money without selling their videos for cheap. If you want to PM me on MFC for further advice on how to make tokens then I'm all for it. I'm simply suggesting this website because I fell it's a better way to make money without MFC making a cut from your tokens. And of course other sites are welcomed, I'm only a member of MFC that's why I only bring that site up.

That was very interesting, but I see you are not interested in answering my questions. I feel that you really should not be promoting a site if you have nothing to say on it. We aren't trying to make things hard for you, I'm not being mean. I'm asking valid questions.

If I may, I would like to once again suggest you hold off on promoting a site until you have information to share. I don't want to be rude, but your lack of any knowledge about the site is a bit of a turn-off. You can't even say if you are working for the site or not.

Lol, let me say again, I help girls with 400 camscore to 7k camscore for free, that isn't a problem for me. I know enough about the website to advertise a week early. If you want to sell videos and make more than $2 dollars per videos then this is the site for you. We're simply trying to provide a website for you girls to make more money than what you do on your cam site. My advice is free, this website is free, I don't know what's so hard to understand.

 

[Tragaveli]

In my experience, the only members that have ever been vocal about how MFC shouldn't be taking a cut of our earnings are guys that wanted a cheaper experience for themselves.

This site would take a cut, yes? The only difference here is that instead of MFC (or any other site) getting their percentage, it would be you.

Seems legit.

I don't care about a cheap experience, I don't spend money regardless. I don't come on MFC to perv, simply to help girls that need the help. A friend that noticed what I do came to me with an opportunity for models to make more money with less effort. So I jumped on it. If you want free help just ask me for my MFC name and I'll give you advice that'll help you make more money with less effort.

 

[Tragaveli]

Of course, it's as simple as posting on your profile "To view my exclusive content join http://www.hercampics.com/forums/" If you're fanbase is solid they'll definitely sign up.

:lol:

So I need to make exclusive content (which believe it or not takes a lot of time), upload to a brand new site that already has the odds stacked against it AND advertise myself? Sorry, no. Clips4Sale advertises me, ExtraLunchMoney advertises me, Streamate advertises me.

If I wanted to put all my content up on a site and advertise myself, I'd buy a domain and sell my clips exclusively via my own site for 100% of the profit.

If you want to make your own website that's cool, you wouldn't need us. Our website provides advertisement with little effort, simply post in a forum like you're doing now. I don't know why this is harder than what it reall is. Lol

I believe the point is, you want models to advertise the content that you get a cut of. The only models who will sell content on your site are those who already have a fanbase, and therefore do not need you to sell their videos. Allison's argument is that your site is a needless middleman.

Lol all this is crazy... I help girls get a fanbase, point blank period. we simply provide an atmosphere where you can sell content and make MORE money doing so. That's all. I personally don't make any money. The site owner does. He pays $200 a month just for keeping the site alive, and pays $750 for a visa. Try not to look at all the negatives of the website and look at the positives. Easier to understand that way.

 

[Eva_ChangeN]

That is why i told the models to PM me with any concerns.

We do bite sometimes :lol: Travaveli, I am curious as to how you are connected with this site? You talk about how your friend created it and will run it, so should we take that to mean you are just a friend interested in helping to promote it? Or are you also a staff member?

My current primary questions are, how do you plan to enforce the exclusive nature of your videos? And, do you really think the exclusive nature of videos will be a strong enough lure to match already hugely popular video selling sites like ELM, MGF and C4S? You suggest that models will have to advertise their own content, so unless a model is already very popular with a huge fanbase (id est, could sell her videos on her own), it seems unlikely an average model would see any action on this site.

Lol I'm tryin to respond to any and every concern there is here. You guys/gals are making it very hard for me. Put it this way. if your camscore is 400 or 40,000 I personally don't care. I help all girls that are willing to hear what I have to say. I'm highly intelligent when it comes to making tokens. Yes, I'm only on MFC but I help any girls that ask for it. I make friends with good tippers simply to direct them to any models that I help, this one tipper for example brought this website idea to me and I thought it was a great idea for models to make money without selling their videos for cheap. If you want to PM me on MFC for further advice on how to make tokens then I'm all for it. I'm simply suggesting this website because I fell it's a better way to make money without MFC making a cut from your tokens. And of course other sites are welcomed, I'm only a member of MFC that's why I only bring that site up.

That was very interesting, but I see you are not interested in answering my questions. I feel that you really should not be promoting a site if you have nothing to say on it. We aren't trying to make things hard for you, I'm not being mean. I'm asking valid questions.

If I may, I would like to once again suggest you hold off on promoting a site until you have information to share. I don't want to be rude, but your lack of any knowledge about the site is a bit of a turn-off. You can't even say if you are working for the site or not.

Lol, let me say again, I help girls with 400 camscore to 7k camscore for free, that isn't a problem for me. I know enough about the website to advertise a week early. If you want to sell videos and make more than $2 dollars per videos then this is the site for you. We're simply trying to provide a website for you girls to make more money than what you do on your cam site. My advice is free, this website is free, I don't know what's so hard to understand.

Let me see if I can assist...here's my translation:

 

[Tragaveli]

Lol, i'm getting the site owner to sign up now. Any further info he can provide. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

When we see positives they will be easier to understand. But you're showing us an old cow shed and telling us to imagine a castle.

I have had members like you before who believe they go around helping lots of models, helping them make lots of money. I hear about it in the models only section too so I'm not the only one who finds that members like you result in me losing money and feeling uncomfortable/my members feeling uncomfortable. I have even had one who sound suspiciously like you who turned out to be kind of crazy!

You've pretty clearly avoided answering simple questions. And really I don't see how it's so hard for you to answer. What were you expecting? Us to all go "you're such a nice guy for telling us about this! We'll totally sign up and let your friend take a cut in our money" No, we were going to either ask you lots of questions or be critical whilst asking questions.

 

[Just Me]

One issue I did not see, and this would only apply to the models selling on MFC, is camscore. Many like selling their videos for tokens since it will help their camscore. If the website is asking exclusivity the model will lose out on helping their placement on MFC.

 

[Tragaveli]

Lol listen real quick, Without getting defensive. The owner is willing to offer 80% of profit. If you think it's a scam then move on, simply as that. But if you want to make good profit PM ME, stop responding in the thread. You're clearly trying to convince yourself and others that this site is bullshit. I'm not here to bullshit you. If you can make your own website then do that. If you want us to do it for you only making a little profit then respond. I don't need any "pervs" responding looking for flaws or any girls that's not interested in making extra money respond. It is what it is. We're simply trying to help. Now if you can't understand that then why respond? If you do understand that and want the help my inbox is open. Not trying to waste my time.

 

[Rileyster]

 

[Tragaveli]

One issue I did not see, and this would only apply to the models selling on MFC, is camscore. Many like selling their videos for tokens since it will help their camscore. If the website is asking exclusivity the model will lose out on helping their placement on MFC.

Who cares about camscore when they're making straight cash? Be seirous, money is the #1 objective.

 

[Eva_ChangeN]

Lol listen real quick, Without getting defensive. The owner is willing to offer 80% of profit. If you think it's a scam then move on, simply as that. But if you want to make good profit PM ME, stop responding in the thread. You're clearly trying to convince yourself and others that this site is bullshit. I'm not here to bullshit you. If you can make your own website then do that. If you want us to do it for you only making a little profit then respond. I don't need any "pervs" responding looking for flaws or any girls that's not interested in making extra money respond. It is what it is. We're simply trying to help. Now if you can't understand that then why respond? If you do understand that and want the help my inbox is open. Not trying to waste my time.

Let me get this straight...

Models asked legit questions, you had no answers other than "PM me and I will play middle man wit the REAl guy behind this magical site"

Other guys, doing the exact same thing you say you do for models, make comments and ask questions that are also relevant, and you get butt hurt and defensive?

I WAS curious about the site and interested. We ask on the forum because A: you POSTED here, and B: we all ask similar questions, so posting here HELPS YOU from having to answer the same PMs.

No white knights are needed here, if your "friend" is legit, tell him to come here. You have done nothing but avoid legit questions about a site you obviously know nothing about. Other than that, I think you have worn out your welcome, and are now stirring the pot...

I am NO LONGER interested....just FYI.

 

[Eva_ChangeN]

And I sure your "friend" would love to know that your repping his site the way you are, with the condescending and snotty overtones your trying to throw on a forum you haven't bothered to get to know before you start spewing about a hyped site that isn't even up and running yet...

 

[Tragaveli]

Lol listen real quick, Without getting defensive. The owner is willing to offer 80% of profit. If you think it's a scam then move on, simply as that. But if you want to make good profit PM ME, stop responding in the thread. You're clearly trying to convince yourself and others that this site is bullshit. I'm not here to bullshit you. If you can make your own website then do that. If you want us to do it for you only making a little profit then respond. I don't need any "pervs" responding looking for flaws or any girls that's not interested in making extra money respond. It is what it is. We're simply trying to help. Now if you can't understand that then why respond? If you do understand that and want the help my inbox is open. Not trying to waste my time.

Let me get this straight...

Models asked legit questions, you had no answers other than "PM me and I will play middle man wit the REAl guy behind this magical site"

Other guys, doing the exact same thing you say you do for models, make comments and ask questions that are also relevant, and you get butt hurt and defensive?

I WAS curious about the site and interested. We ask on the forum because A: you POSTED here, and B: we all ask similar questions, so posting here HELPS YOU from having to answer the same PMs.

No white knights are needed here, if your "friend" is legit, tell him to come here. You have done nothing but avoid legit questions about a site you obviously know nothing about. Other than that, I think you have worn out your welcome, and are now stirring the pot...

I am NO LONGER interested....just FYI.

I personally don't care if you're interested, I can easily post an ad on craigslist and get 100 chicks lined up for the opportunity. I simply tried to give you girls first dibs. I clearly posted in the opening statement to PM me with any questions. Guess how many PM's I got??? Nothing but complaints and concerns that weren't sent in a message. So clearly you chicks/pervs don't know how to follow instructions. If you think I don't know a lot of TOP MODELS willing to join the site you're terribly wrong. I was simply trying to lend a hand out to you girls that have a hard time. Ban me, delete my thread. Do what ever you wanna do. I simply tried to help, you girls have your head so far up your asses that you don't see it. LOLLLL good luck to you.

 

[Eva_ChangeN]

Why are you getting nasty about us asking questions?? I'm not putting my image or my info anywhere I can't trust. You aren't bringing any info that makes anyone trust you. Your white knighting all over this thread, but when the helmet comes off, we can't tell if your a troll or not. Your coming across like one. Your not doing anyone any favors by playing games about "PM for info". If you have info, why not share with the class?? Now you want to run off like a troll-child because we called you out? If your friend is really supporting a good site, your not representing it very well. If your friend is just as defensive as you about answering questions, its not a site that will get off the ground very fast or have much longevity. As for CL, go ahead, those MILFs will back down the first time a troll leaves comments somewhere linking to 4chan. Hope you find your cinderella, white knight.

 

[AllisonWilder]

We ask publicly because we already know that every girl that reads this wants the same answers. It's easier that way. Clearly, you don't have answers and that isn't okay. Don't bring a site here to advertise, if there isn't actually something to advertise.

We don't need you, you need us. Your site/your friends site/whoever owns the site won't make it without models. Insulting models isn't going to help you. Insulting potential members isn't going to help you.

 

[Tragaveli]

Why are you getting nasty about us asking questions?? I'm not putting my image or my info anywhere I can't trust. You aren't bringing any info that makes anyone trust you. Your white knighting all over this thread, but when the helmet comes off, we can't tell if your a troll or not. Your coming across like one. Your not doing anyone any favors by playing games about "PM for info". If you have info, why not share with the class?? Now you want to run off like a troll-child because we called you out? If your friend is really supporting a good site, your not representing it very well. If your friend is just as defensive as you about answering questions, its not a site that will get off the ground very fast or have much longevity. As for CL, go ahead, those MILFs will back down the first time a troll leaves comments somewhere linking to 4chan. Hope you find your cinderella, white knight.

As I look at your avi I clearly see that your picture is out there. Don't play games with me. I'm highly intelligent and far from stupid. I came here simply trying to help you females out. I blueprinted a guideline for you girls to get more information and nobody followed it. You just bitched and moaned about "how it could be a scam." Or "how it's not legit". Why would I waste my time signing up to a website "that's designed to help models" trying to scam? Think about that. I personally don't care if you believe me or not. I simply came here to help. If you don't want the help move on. How many times do I have to say it??? On the other hand, if you do want the help simply PM me and I'll show you the money (jerry mcguire). Lol all reality, I simply presented an opportunity. If you have any questions or concerns, PM me, it's that easy. I don't know what's so hard to understand. The site works with or without you, I was simply trying to look out.

 

[Eva_ChangeN]

Ok, here, let me try to say it differently... we message in the topic so that we all can see the answers. Say in a year, your not available to answer the same old "whats the payout?", we can redirect to this topic, like we do with other site questions like MFC, SV, MGF, ELM....

You are coming off like a ton of other guys that come in here with pipe dreams of having a site full of women who get naked. We LITERALLY get them on this forum weekly, or more. If you can't give info in public, its hard to trust your being serious. I can say your serious. You can say your serious. But history dictates that 99% of the guys who come here saying what your saying (some with even more info, and more of a site) disappear and end up stealing info or pics from girls. Its happened. More than once. So we are defensive.

Also, if we PM you, its our word VS yours. So, say you tell model A its 80% payout. Model A tells model B its 85%, she goes on twitter saying that you guys pay out 85%, then theres all these girls who think Model B is making more than them cause she is "special" which spurs trolls and hate mail for your site. (Also, past history proven)

I thought the site owner was signing up here like 2 hours ago....?

Can we get some straight answers please?

And if you REALLY wanted us to ONLY PM you, then why keep responding to the thread? Why even post at all? Just PM us....

And what did you mean by my avi being "out there"? Just curious...but I suspect you will side step even that question

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

:?
1) Sweetie... oh no he didnt... :shock:

2) You want me to pay for a forum membership to buy the same video and pics n stuff from MFC models I can already buy without a forum membership?

3) You want the models to upload new and exclusive content to your server for you to sell to members already paying a fee to be there. I've built run and administrated several internet forums so... all your code monkeys have free access to all that content.

4) You do this for free, because you like to help. Try painting "free candy" on the side of a van, that works too. Unless you are retired, rich and need a hobby, nobody does anything for free "just to help".

5)No offense but I've slapped up better forums in my sleep. "Simple Machines Forum — SMF in short — is a free, professional grade software package that allows you to set up your own online community within minutes."

Learn to use something like phpBB and set up a real forum.... you're going to run a business off SMF? I don't think so. None I'd input my CC# into.

6) if he's paying $200 a month for that forum... he's being raped. I know a few server owners personally who will set up and maintain a phpBB forum starting at $6 a month, and up depending on what you wanna do with it. A simple business front forum isnt $200 a month.

7) If he's paying $700 "for visa" a month then he's going to lose his shirt with this deal. You'll never get $700 er... $900 a month in paid members to keep the lights on.

8) You never open the store's front door until you actually have a store. You really jumped the gun.

9) where exactly are you getting the traffic and members to make this pile of cash?

and lastly,
10) Stop what you're doing, take some classes in basic business PR.... Sweetie.

 

[Tragaveli]

Ok, here, let me try to say it differently... we message in the topic so that we all can see the answers. Say in a year, your not available to answer the same old "whats the payout?", we can redirect to this topic, like we do with other site questions like MFC, SV, MGF, ELM....

You are coming off like a ton of other guys that come in here with pipe dreams of having a site full of women who get naked. We LITERALLY get them on this forum weekly, or more. If you can't give info in public, its hard to trust your being serious. I can say your serious. You can say your serious. But history dictates that 99% of the guys who come here saying what your saying (some with even more info, and more of a site) disappear and end up stealing info or pics from girls. Its happened. More than once. So we are defensive.

Also, if we PM you, its our word VS yours. So, say you tell model A its 80% payout. Model A tells model B its 85%, she goes on twitter saying that you guys pay out 85%, then theres all these girls who think Model B is making more than them cause she is "special" which spurs trolls and hate mail for your site. (Also, past history proven)

I thought the site owner was signing up here like 2 hours ago....?

Can we get some straight answers please?

And if you REALLY wanted us to ONLY PM you, then why keep responding to the thread? Why even post at all? Just PM us....

And what did you mean by my avi being "out there"? Just curious...but I suspect you will side step even that question

What part of "model agreement" don't you understand? If you knew anything about the court of law you'd know that a signed agreement trumps everything. We provide that. If you feel like anything we promised is invalid you can sue us and make good money for that. The reason I keep replying is because I like speaking "logically" and if you don't understand "logic" then that's something you need to work on. My first post clearly stated any info you needed to know, and if you needed to know anymore all you had to do was shoot me a pm. Was that hard to understand???? Be honest, was it???? You're trying to discredit me for whatever reason, those motives only you know. Like I said, the site will run with or with out you, I was simply trying to give you girls a jump start. Now if you have any other concerns shoot me a PM, I will provide any info you need. Stop trying to belittle me and the website I'm promoting because it's for your benefit, not mine. My boy spent over $1,000 cash!!!! If you think he spend that money to scam you then you can easily disregard anything I'm saying. But if you have any concerns about the website then you can PM me. At the end of the day we do not need you, we're just trying to help.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

So clearly you chicks/pervs don't know how to follow instructions. If you think I don't know a lot of TOP MODELS willing to join the site you're terribly wrong. I was simply trying to lend a hand out to you girls that have a hard time. Ban me, delete my thread. Do what ever you wanna do. I simply tried to help, you girls have your head so far up your asses that you don't see it. LOLLLL good luck to you......

As I look at your avi I clearly see that your picture is out there. Don't play games with me. I'm highly intelligent and far from stupid. I came here simply trying to help you females out. I blueprinted a guideline for you girls to get more information and nobody followed it. You just bitched and moaned about "how it could be a scam." Or "how it's not legit". Why would I waste my time signing up to a website "that's designed to help models" trying to scam? Think about that. I personally don't care if you believe me or not. I simply came here to help. If you don't want the help move on. How many times do I have to say it??? On the other hand, if you do want the help simply PM me and I'll show you the money (jerry mcguire). Lol all reality, I simply presented an opportunity. If you have any questions or concerns, PM me, it's that easy. I don't know what's so hard to understand. The site works with or without you, I was simply trying to look out.

Dude you are one smooth businessman. You'll go far. :lol:

They are women, not "females"... bro. Take your fail back to 4chan.