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Tragaveli said:
Eva_ChangeN said:
Ok, here, let me try to say it differently... we message in the topic so that we all can see the answers. Say in a year, your not available to answer the same old "whats the payout?", we can redirect to this topic, like we do with other site questions like MFC, SV, MGF, ELM....

You are coming off like a ton of other guys that come in here with pipe dreams of having a site full of women who get naked. We LITERALLY get them on this forum weekly, or more. If you can't give info in public, its hard to trust your being serious. I can say your serious. You can say your serious. But history dictates that 99% of the guys who come here saying what your saying (some with even more info, and more of a site) disappear and end up stealing info or pics from girls. Its happened. More than once. So we are defensive.

Also, if we PM you, its our word VS yours. So, say you tell model A its 80% payout. Model A tells model B its 85%, she goes on twitter saying that you guys pay out 85%, then theres all these girls who think Model B is making more than them cause she is "special" which spurs trolls and hate mail for your site. (Also, past history proven)

I thought the site owner was signing up here like 2 hours ago....?

Can we get some straight answers please?

And if you REALLY wanted us to ONLY PM you, then why keep responding to the thread? Why even post at all? Just PM us....

And what did you mean by my avi being "out there"? Just curious...but I suspect you will side step even that question

What part of "model agreement" don't you understand? If you knew anything about the court of law you'd know that a signed agreement trumps everything. We provide that. If you feel like anything we promised is invalid you can sue us and make good money for that. The reason I keep replying is because I like speaking "logically" and if you don't understand "logic" then that's something you need to work on. My first post clearly stated any info you needed to know, and if you needed to know anymore all you had to do was shoot me a pm. Was that hard to understand???? Be honest, was it???? You're trying to discredit me for whatever reason, those motives only you know. Like I said, the site will run with or with out you, I was simply trying to give you girls a jump start. Now if you have any other concerns shoot me a PM, I will provide any info you need. Stop trying to belittle me and the website I'm promoting because it's for your benefit, not mine. My boy spent over $1,000 cash!!!! If you think he spend that money to scam you then you can easily disregard anything I'm saying. But if you have any concerns about the website then you can PM me. At the end of the day we do not need you, we're just trying to help.

Where-fore ist thou Model Agreement?? Oh...yea... you said "your boy" didn't have one yet.





















:shhh:

*whispers* I sooooo illogical!
 
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Paulie Walnuts said:
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1) Sweetie... oh no he didnt... :shock:

2) You want me to pay for a forum membership to buy the same video and pics n stuff from MFC models I can already buy without a forum membership?

3) You want the models to upload new and exclusive content to your server for you to sell to members already paying a fee to be there. I've built run and administrated several internet forums so... all your code monkeys have free access to all that content.

4) You do this for free, because you like to help. Try painting "free candy" on the side of a van, that works too. Unless you are retired, rich and need a hobby, nobody does anything for free "just to help".

5)No offense but I've slapped up better forums in my sleep. "Simple Machines Forum — SMF in short — is a free, professional grade software package that allows you to set up your own online community within minutes."

Learn to use something like phpBB and set up a real forum.... you're going to run a business off SMF? I don't think so. None I'd input my CC# into.

6) if he's paying $200 a month for that forum... he's being raped. I know a few server owners personally who will set up and maintain a phpBB forum starting at $6 a month, and up depending on what you wanna do with it. A simple business front forum isnt $200 a month.

7) If he's paying $700 "for visa" a month then he's going to lose his shirt with this deal. You'll never get $700 er... $900 a month in paid members to keep the lights on.

8) You never open the store's front door until you actually have a store. You really jumped the gun.

9) where exactly are you getting the traffic and members to make this pile of cash?

and lastly,
10) Stop what you're doing, take some classes in basic business PR.... Sweetie. ;)

1) the way I talk has nothing to do with anything.

2) I expect a perv to object, seeing how you wouldn't get any cheap videos anymore.

3) Plenty of pervs will pay to see content that they won't get anywhere else. Hence what trueprivate is for.

4) I have 4 jobs, I don't need the money, whereas females that sign up to camsites do.

5) The forum is free, we took the time to create it so models can promote themselves.

6) We make good money so $200 a month is nothing, we provide legit service not a cheap ass $6 a month.

7) 750.00 A visa is nothing when you run a legit website, being a website owner yourself you know that the site pays for it itself.

8) The store is open already, we're just giving these girls an opportunity to make good coin.

9) The models provide their own traffic, if you been apart of any camsite you'd know that they make good money off vids/pics, we just provide an opportunity to make even more.

10) I'm just providing an opportunity for models to make more cash, I expect a perv to object. Don't be mad because you won't be receiving cheap videos for little cash. You'll be alright.
 
Simply put, if you're a perv, you have no need to respond. If you're a model PM ME, you'll see that you make more money with us. No need to sell videos for cheap. No need to cam without knowing how to cam. Any more comments????
 
um... "your boy" as in your son or "your boy" as in your buddy?

Stop trying to belittle me and the website I'm promoting because it's for your benefit, not mine.

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And these aren't the droids you're looking for. Move along....
 
The way you speak means a lot to those of us who value professionalism.

Models don't want to have to provide their own traffic, nor should they have to. That's what the site is there for. To provide traffic. I don't want to bring my twitter following to a new site when they are perfectly fine buying from me where they have been.

What you don't get is that YOU don't deserve a cut. By YOU, I mean your friend/your site/his site/whatever. We've all signed up for the sites we're on for whatever reasons we signed up. We don't have a problem with the site taking a cut. Members have a problem with the site taking a cut.

Charging a member $30 (of which a model would get $18 after the site takes a cut and taxes assuming it's still the aforementioned 80%) for access to all her videos actually makes them CHEAPER and therefore a model makes LESS.

I'm not saying that you're out to scam us. I'm just looking for answers. I'm also not looking to PM you because I don't want to work for my answers. That's your job, to hustle and garner interest in your (your friends) site.
 
Tragaveli said:
Simply put, if you're a perv, you have no need to respond. If you're a model PM ME, you'll see that you make more money with us. No need to sell videos for cheap. No need to cam without knowing how to cam. Any more comments????

Yeah just one...

You talk like an angry crack dealer who just got caught selling rock salt.

Keep digging that hole deeper, we like to see how long it takes the rocks we toss in to get to the bottom.
 
Tragaveli said:
Simply put, if you're a perv, you have no need to respond. If you're a model PM ME, you'll see that you make more money with us. No need to sell videos for cheap. No need to cam without knowing how to cam. Any more comments????

And there's no need to be rude to the guys here. They are your audience. If you're rude to them they won't follow us to your site. See how that works?

A little professionalism goes a long way.
 
I sent a legit PM....and so far, got no answer..... :think:

Oh, and I thought this was ironic (hope I used that word logically)


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Hmmm :think:
 
I'm not saying that you're out to scam us.

I am. He's a fucking shitweasel probably trolling for personal info to sell. After reading how he responds to your questions would you trust him as a business partner?
:lol:

I wouldn't hire him to pick dog shit out of my yard after reading his responses.
 
Paulie Walnuts said:
I'm not saying that you're out to scam us.

I am. He's a fucking shitweasel probably trolling for personal info to sell. After reading how he responds to your questions would you trust him as a business partner?
:lol:

I wouldn't hire him to pick dog shit out of my yard after reading his responses.

Okay, okay. I was trying to be nice. :lol:
 
I got about 1/4 of my questions kind of answered in my PM so far....oh and was told I was being a troll and asking troll questions... still waiting on the answers about money and such...since that IS why we are here...unless he thinks I'm just a lowly perv
 
Lmao, my post clearly states "models read" how should i respond to a perv reading my post other than someone trying to discredit me????? Be honest. I'm simply trying to provide you models a way to make more money off your vids/pics. Nothing more nothing less. I expect everyday pervs to discredit what I'm saying. I'll answer any question you models have to say. Sorry for you pervs though. The day of getting cheap content is over.
 
"I'm highly intelligent about everything! Why, just last week I told a potential customer, 'hey son, come to my store over on Meathead Lane, our goods cost MORE. No more cheap turnips for you!'"
 
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Lmao, my post clearly states "models read" how should i respond to a perv reading my post other than someone trying to discredit me????? Be honest. I'm simply trying to provide you models a way to make more money off your vids/pics. Nothing more nothing less. I expect everyday pervs to discredit what I'm saying. I'll answer any question you models have to say. Sorry for you pervs though. The day of getting cheap content is over.
You repeatedly calling the members "pervs" is not a good way to attract male traffic to go there and buy videos from models to begin with. Why would a model want to sign up for a site where they obviously don't care about respecting the members also? The road has to go both ways anywhere. Keep BOTH models and members happy without dismissing the "pervs".

Your biggest mistake was coming in here all puffed up on this business idea with no site to back it up. Come back when it's up and running and you can answer all the questions models may want to ask you.
 
Lol I answered every PM i've received, I'll no longer respond to Pervs being that they just want a cheap show. Our website is designed to stop all that cheap shit. Sorry pervs....
 
Rileyster said:
Tragaveli said:
Lmao, my post clearly states "models read" how should i respond to a perv reading my post other than someone trying to discredit me????? Be honest. I'm simply trying to provide you models a way to make more money off your vids/pics. Nothing more nothing less. I expect everyday pervs to discredit what I'm saying. I'll answer any question you models have to say. Sorry for you pervs though. The day of getting cheap content is over.
You repeatedly calling the members "pervs" is not a good way to attract male traffic to go there and buy videos from models to begin with. Why would a model want to sign up for a site where they obviously don't care about respecting the members also? The road has to go both ways anywhere. Keep BOTH models and members happy without dismissing the "pervs".

Your biggest mistake was coming in here all puffed up on this business idea with no site to back it up. Come back when it's up and running and you can answer all the questions models may want to ask you.

Are "WE" not pervs? we pay money to look at you girls naked. Even us "PERVS" refer to eachother as "PERVS". Stop fishing please. It is what it is. If you have a concern PM ME, nothing more to it.
 
You have not answered all questions, so stop saying you've answered all the questions.

allisonwilder said:
We need to see real figures.
We need to see a real site.
We need to know payout options, methods, fees.
We need to know what our cut is.
We need to know what the site requires from us.
We need professionalism from people attempting to recruit us.
We need cold, hard facts--not maybe this or possibly that.
 
You just simultaneously dismissed your potential customers and insulted them. Why would a "perv" try to discredit you any more than a model? Both are part of the business model. Suppliers and consumers. And why would anyone want to spend more?
 
AllisonWilder said:
You have not answered all questions, so stop saying you've answered all the questions.

allisonwilder said:
We need to see real figures.
We need to see a real site.
We need to know payout options, methods, fees.
We need to know what our cut is.
We need to know what the site requires from us.
We need professionalism from people attempting to recruit us.
We need cold, hard facts--not maybe this or possibly that.



Did you send a PM?
 
Nordling said:
You just simultaneously dismissed your potential customers and insulted them. Why would a "perv" try to discredit you any more than a model? Both are part of the business model. Suppliers and consumers. And why would anyone want to spend more?

You're a perv bro, I need not respond to you, The model will bring you in simply by not selling her vids on MFC. Leave me alone please. I already know who you are and you should know who I am. Cut it out please.
 
Tragaveli said:
Nordling said:
You just simultaneously dismissed your potential customers and insulted them. Why would a "perv" try to discredit you any more than a model? Both are part of the business model. Suppliers and consumers. And why would anyone want to spend more?

You're a perv bro, I need not respond to you, The model will bring you in simply by not selling her vids on MFC. Leave me alone please. I already know who you are and you should know who I am. Cut it out please.
This is an open forum. Why don't you "cut it out?"

So the "perv" moves onto another model that isn't one of your Magic 100. :D
 
Heres the comments from my PMs:

E: So, how long till the site is up and running? When will a model agreement be available for review? How often are pay periods? Minimum pay outs? Amounts we are paid? Where are you advertising? How many girls currently signed up? What sponsors are helping with the site, if any? How are we to file taxes? Are you requiring DCMAs to remove content? What happens if someone steals out content? Is the site responsible for legalities if content or personal info is stolen? What if a customer uses a stolen card? what if a minor joins? If there are chargebacks, stop payments, stolen credit card numbers, how do you plan to handle this? What information are you using to ensure we are who we say we are? What is your security certificate number for your site? Thanks

T: if somebody "steals" their content, since it isn't exclusive, we can;t say it was stolen from here or not. That's why we ask for exclusive content. If exclusive content is stolen we seek legal action. DMCAs will be filed if EXCLUSIVE content is stolen, yes. If a customer uses a stolen credit card, its fraud. The payment processor, and us work to handle that. what if a minor joins? What if a minor joins any site, how does anybody really know who is, or isnt a minor? And we verify they are who they say they are by two forms of ID, just like any other website does. And my SSL, or site security number quite frankly I don't believe is anybodies business. You can ask all the troll questions you want. We know what we're doing and simpy won't answer just any troll question. We're legit, nothing less, nothing more.

E: How about all those payment and money questions, model agreement? I'm not trolling. I'm asking questions that I ask EVERY site I post info on....

T: We're currently working on a model agreement, we're trying to make the website good for you and us. That's the only reason the site hasn't launched yet. We want to make sure you get what you want, but at the same time we don't want to lose money helping you girls out. Keep PMing questions. I appreciate that.

E: what about pay periods? how often? how are the payments going to be made?

T: Models get paid bi-weekly.

E: and??

T: And what? The owner doesn't need extra girls, simply sign up to the site and ask your questions there. I'm going out of my way advertising to help you girls out. I'm not trying to scam anyone.

E: I asked like 4 questions about payments and you had an answer for 1....

T: Well shit, I apologize if I only answered one but I'm new to this site and it's not constructed like most sites. Ask again if you don't mind.

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How about I post this instead, guess what I found?

http://[site name banned*6].com/showthread.php?17 ... 4939f97aa2 (check who posted on page #2)

Oh and let me post a pic LOL Google is your friend!! TROLLS BE TROLLIN!!

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Nordling said:
Tragaveli said:
Nordling said:
You just simultaneously dismissed your potential customers and insulted them. Why would a "perv" try to discredit you any more than a model? Both are part of the business model. Suppliers and consumers. And why would anyone want to spend more?

You're a perv bro, I need not respond to you, The model will bring you in simply by not selling her vids on MFC. Leave me alone please. I already know who you are and you should know who I am. Cut it out please.
This is an open forum. Why don't you "cut it out?"

So the "perv" moves onto another model that isn't one of your Magic 100. :D

Are you Horney_fella84? If I guessed correctly you have to tell the truth. It's only right. But anyway... I just posted this to help the models. I don't really care what the "guys" have to say. Sorry.
 
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