Re: My response. CamScores, Money laundering, MilaMilan & Co
I think that people need to wake up and realize that contrary to what MFC says, MFC IS A PORN SITE. Anyone that looks at it in any other way is delusional in my personal opinion. And any guy that says he originally visited MFC for any other reason than to see hot women is either delusional or a liar, or perhaps both.
NONE of this means that people cannot develop real relationships on MFC and other cam sites. We are all human beings. We have hearts. We have minds. We have emotions. We have needs. We have desires. And real feelings can develop between models and members as they spend more and more time together. But let's never forget how all of this started, namely on a PORN SITE!
What does that mean? It means that members went online to check out hot women and models went online to make some money. That was our ORIGINAL motivation to log onto MFC. If it was anything else, such as to meet people, make friends, find a significant other, et cetera, then I would suggest that the person in question has some serious issues. The only exception I can think of is that a model that I know, and have met, from another site married a guy who went to that site to learn how they work in hopes of improving a site of his own. (I'm not sure it was a porn site that he was making. I think he was interested in the technical features of the chat aspects of the cam site that she worked on.) Other than something like that, we all know EXACTLY why we first came to MFC. (And I am guessing that my friend's husband was interested in a lot more than just the "technical" features of porn sites, lol.)
Okay. So now you say something like, "Yeah. Seeing hot women was my original motivation, but as I got to know some of the models here, I really felt a personal connection and seeing them naked really wasn't the issue any more." I get this point. I just would like to know a few things. First, for those members with this supposed strong connection to a model, did you ever see her doing a show BEFORE this connection developed? Second, now that you have this personal connection, do you leave the room whenever she does a show, or even if she is simply wearing a bra and panties and doing sexy things? Third, once the topic is reached, even if you didn't "tip for topic" because you are such good friends and want to just help her out, do you leave the room before the show starts? And finally, how often do you "check out" your "friend" while logged in as a guest or basic?
But let's take it a step further. Let's assume that the member truly views a particular model as a good friend, never has looked at her in a sexual way and never intends to do so. Fine. I still think that the member is being delusional in almost all cases. He will "tip but not for topic" to help her out. Maybe he will send her money too. His motivations and intentions are pure. And maybe the model's motivations are pure too. Nevertheless, are these two people really friends just because they interact online on a regular basis?
Sadly, as someone that has been around online sites for a long time, I think that the answer is no, and I say that as someone that actually has met models and feels that he is in fact friends with some of them. (And no, I did not meet them at some perv convention, lol.) The problem is that, more often than not, these guys that are being nice and helping a model out will lose touch with them in time. The model will finish school, hopefully get a decent job and move on with her life. She will do EXACTLY what the goodhearted member intended. But often, she will leave him behind. What is she going to do? Be friends with some guy from a porn site and introduce him to her husband one day as "John, the nice guy that I met on that porn site I used to be on."? You think her husband is ever going to believe John never pictured or even saw his wife naked unless she was truly a non-nude model and be comfortable being around him? You think the model is going to want to have John in her life when doing so 1) reminds her of a past that she is very likely happy that she left behind and 2) risk having her relationship with a guy from a porn site interfere with her marriage?
It is the nature of relationships that we all have in "real" life that we all drift apart from some of the people that are close to us, and the fact that these are predominantly online relationships where the member and the model do not meet in most cases, the chance of the relationship lasting long-term is low. If MFC was a site where people just chatted and made friends, that would be different. But it is not, and anyone who says that they are on MFC, a porn site, just for the social aspects of things, is delusional or a liar in my view. And while meeting someone in real is not necessary to have a real friendship, in my opinion, being willing to meet in real should the opportunity arise clearly is necessary.
If a guy understands that and goes forward anyway, then fine, he is being realistic and not delusional. But I think what happens is that guys forget this. They get lost in MFC world and feel that they have a stronger connection than they really do. Guys that spend lots of time on MFC are often bored and/or lonely. They have nothing better to do so they turn on their PC, check out some hot women and start interacting with them. And let's face it, the need for human interaction is a powerful force. We are social beings after all and need that connection. MFC fills that need for members and models.
And it happens to models as well. They get lost in MFC world. I know a model that once told me she would never meet a member from a site. Now she is popular and feels like she is "friends" with guys on MFC and thinks it would be cool to meet them. And who are these "friends"? They are her regulars that support her each day not just with their words, but with their tokens too while they are checking out and complimenting her hot body the entire time.
I applaud those members that tip models to help them out. I see nothing wrong with doing this except, while I obviously don't know everyone's financial situation, the amount of the tips seems excessive. When I see these guys just hanging out in one room, all day long, throwing lots of tokens in one particular model's way, it strikes me as a bizarre situation.
And what are these topics we tip for or don't tip for, lol? "Get me to #50." "Help me be #1." "Going on vacation. Tip me so I can have a good time." Hey, I get it is the model's job and she is on MFC to make money, but the topic might as well just say "Please give me tokens. I want money." Instead, because of the dynamic of MFC, and what I feel are usually artificial relationships in my view, guys buy into this "TeamModelABC" game. Models find ways to draw members in and enlist them in a common goal. It is pure genius on Leo's part. And all along the way, members spend lots of money on models that they will most likely never meet, change their names to ModelABCsJohn and feel that they truly are these models' friends. That doesn't mean that models are lying or even manipulating members. Although sometimes they definitely are, I think models get lost in MFC world too as I have indicated.
I spend a lot of time on sites, and I have spent a lot of money too. And I have sent models lots of money to help them out, met models and consider some to be my "real" friends. So, yes, once again, I know that real friendships are possible. But sadly, most of the time, based on what I hear from members and models, this usually is not going to be the case, and, for lack of a better word, my objection to what these guys are doing is that it is far more likely than not that they will be disappointed. And for those that say that they have no expectations of anything and are just being nice, with all due respect, I don't believe that. At a minimum, many members are most likely are expecting a real friendship, and it is far more likely than not that in the end, they won't even have that.
In sum, I don't object to guys that hang out in one model's room and give her huge tips because I think anyone is necessarily doing anything wrong. I think that the member is being generous and personally, if it isn't a non-nude model, I enjoy the show that often results, lol. The problem I have is that I think the members will end up disappointed in the long run. I think that they get lost in MFC world and lose site of what is really going on. Obviously, every situation is different, but I think most of the time, that the connection the member feels is not as real as it seems and most likely will not be a long lasting one. I actually feel bad for some of them because a lot of us members that have actually met models (again, outside of perv conventions, lol) and do have real relationships with them have had our share of disappoints too.
One final thought: if a model isn't willing to meet the member in real (or you need to win a raffle to meet her, lol), in my opinion, the member is not a real friend. The same is true if the member isn't willing to meet the model. You might be an "online friend", but in my view, that is something quite different. And there is a big difference between being a nice, supportive fan of a model and being her real friend as well. And that is how, in my opinion, I think members should look at things on MFC, namely, that they are fans of models and are supporting and tipping to express their appreciation for the entertainment, even if it is just conversation, that the model provides.
But I don't think that is what is happening. Instead, guys get lost in MFC world and think that they are a lot closer to models as people and as friends than they really are. The constant day to day contact with these models combined with the human need for companionship can cause a lonely guy to have a distorted view of things. And that is why the guys hanging out in one room, constantly tipping just one model, regardless of the size of the tip, concerns me. I think many of these members are just deluding themselves and are not being realistic regarding the true nature of their relationship with models. That is just my opinion, and there are always going to be exceptions, but a member should be very careful before concluding that his relationship with a model is an exception and not what I feel is the rule.
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