poor vs rules

[Mork]

was in a room watching a bit ago. girl was sub 1000 cs.
not a very active room but a very attractive girl.
Nobody would chat with her altho she greeted everyone that came in. [good english skills btw]
one guy took the initiative and made conv with her between dances.
he tipped a little as did 1-2 others.
She all of a sudden went into an explanation of sorts .
..evidently he'd asked if she would like a brief pvt. on the back of a tip note and said he didnt expect much more than some nudity for his requested 5 minutes. he'd repeated as much in chat after she started the explanation. [im guessing he had a bit less than 400 tokens.]
she explained her min was 200 and after that had passed, she would do anything.
pvt didnt happen.....

I'm not slamming anyone by any means,..... rules are a good thing as are personal limits.
but to me it seems if a girl is struggling with no tips, poor CS and a dead room, and the guy wants to give 3-400 tokens for simple naked in pvt, [which she does in free many times anyway, not today tho] she might better serve herself by going along and not being quite so rigid in dead slow times. :confusion-shrug:

:twocents-02cents:

 

[LindseyDoll]

Ah but what if that short little private entirely clears out her room?
Once he's satisfied and gone, she goes back to an empty room with little to show for it and may not attract another tipper all night.
I've been in that situation before and it's very stressful no matter what you choose to do. I say good for her for sticking to her guns. After you make an exception once, everyone expects you to do it again and again.

 

[Shaun__]

If it was a studio model then she may have a set of rules she has to follow. It may not be her decision, or like ShelterLight said the amount of money she would lose in tips may not have been worth it.

 

[Mork]

yes, of course the room would be an issue.. IF she'd actually had one. 2 prems besides the talker. handful of basics and believe it or not, no guests.
she is an independent and not a studio girl....

Ive seen her a few times....
she has some traffic but its the looky loos and not much of the 'stay and maybe tip' like you want....

I'd have taken the tokens.... 300 is better than 70 for her entire time online. [she talks freely... told the token total as why she was signing off.]

 

[Shaun__]

Was she a studio model though? Also if that guy was going to spend several hundred tokens on her why did he care about a two hundred token minimum? Sounds like he just wanted a cheap look.

 

[ScarlettLeigh]

Not all cam girls are money grubbers who will take any and all pennies thrown at them.

 

[MadisonLeigh]

I am sure she made that choice for a reason and it seemed like the best choice for her at the time...whether it was a good choice or not is debatable, but it's probably not worth overthinking her motives.

 

[Mork]

Was she a studio model though? Also if that guy was going to spend several hundred tokens on her why did he care about a two hundred token minimum? Sounds like he just wanted a cheap look.

she was never a studio girl that Im aware of... IDK why that would be relevant anyway...

and if you had absorbed the conversation, he didnt have but 3-400 tokens total.. which would have optimistically given him about 150/200 to chat with her while naked had the 200 burned up while she was off cam. Some folks here aren't flush with unlimited tokens or huge bankrolls so "several hundred" is misleading. I don't see this as a money grubbing or a cheap look thing. I see it as a decent guy that wanted to give the girl some tokens for no real effort on her part, since she routinely is naked in public chat anyway.

its funny, and sad, how so many reach so hard to find the bad in any given situation here.

I agree Madison, not worth the scrutiny.... we all have our days....
:thumbleft:

 

[Shaun__]

Was she a studio model though? Also if that guy was going to spend several hundred tokens on her why did he care about a two hundred token minimum? Sounds like he just wanted a cheap look.

she was never a studio girl that Im aware of... IDK why that would be relevant anyway...

Some studio models have bosses who tell them what they can and can not do. If the boss says this is the minimum private you are allowed to do then that is what she will do.

and if you had absorbed the conversation, he didnt have but 3-400 tokens total.. which would have optimistically given him about 150/200 to chat with her while naked had the 200 burned up while she was off cam. Some folks here aren't flush with unlimited tokens or huge bankrolls so "several hundred" is misleading. I don't see this as a money grubbing or a cheap look thing. I see it as a decent guy that wanted to give the girl some tokens for no real effort on her part, since she routinely is naked in public chat anyway

If he was going to do her a favor then he should not have minded the minimum amount. Since he did mind then it sounded like he wanted her to do her regular show on the cheap.

 

[SoTxBob]

lol shaun....

..and said he didnt expect much more than some nudity for his requested 5 minutes.
.....3-400 tokens for simple naked in pvt, [which she does in free many times anyway....

to me 5 minutes says 300 or so tokens.

she is an independent and not a studio girl....

I also have to agree to that part about not everyone has big bank like you apparently do Shaun. Some guys while wanting to help, like a lil something for the memory even if its trivial amounts of a few hundy to some of us. It's not like the guy in the room asked for a "show" at all from what mork stated...

This sounds like a couple of girls I know actually. Never worked for a studio, struggle to make rent and bills. Traffic thru the room is hard simply because of page placement and the fact they dont freely shove the toaster up their hooch in free for nothing but the endless "wow BB's" and "you're pretty, show XXX"...

 

[Shaun__]

I also have to agree to that part about not everyone has big bank like you apparently do Shaun. Some guys while wanting to help, like a lil something for the memory even if its trivial amounts of a few hundy to some of us. It's not like the guy in the room asked for a "show" at all from what mork stated...

My bank roll is far from big. Being in the same room as some of the monstrously rich people that roam MFC is unreal. The premium in question though should have at least spent a couple days getting to know the model and let her know what kind of person he is, if he was honestly trying to help her. If the model in question has decided on her own to set up the 200 token chat rule then she may have had a rash of people in her early days getting her naked then leaving. I have seen several models on here saying that is a problem they have occasionally.

As to the question of what she really had to lose, sometimes when my regulars are being night owls I go roaming the pages of MFC to find someone to play with. A surprising number of times models will disappear into one or two minute privates while I am typing out my tip note. I will not stick around for someone who is not my friend, so I just close my tip window and move on.

 

[Megaclit]

Yeah, Mork. I'd agree that she was being somewhat doctrinaire in her approach. Sure everyone has their own set of standards, rules, policies... but it's a shame when you see those things replacing an actual thought process. Small dollops of $10 and $20 add up to a lot at the end of the day. At the risk of sounding too businesslike, lol, as a low camscore girl myself (I don't do public shows) I never set a minimum on privates because it's my bread and butter, and often, someone will come back later and do a bigger show with me if I can demonstrate that they'll see a lot more next time. But I do understand how it interrupts the flow of a room if there are 150 people sitting in it.

 

[SweepTheLeg]

her room her rules, but just this one time then could develop into other guys bringing up and getting mad when she doesn't accept their cheap privates either. Rather a girl no matter how far down they are in the list of models stick to her guns than doing anything she's not comfortable with just for the sake of some extra money, good for her.

 

[SoTxBob]

The premium in question though should have at least spent a couple days getting to know the model and let her know what kind of person he is, if he was honestly trying to help her. \

While this is perhaps a great rule of thumb, I cant count the tens of thousands of tokens I've given to girls on a one time whim, because I like her smile, her eyes, want her to add some clothes to piss off asshole beggars or whatever.. Getting to know her past that meeting isn't necessary for me. I also know many other prems that do this. Not all men are total fucktards looking to take advantage.

 

[LadyLuna]

I can understand both sides of this.

For him, he's thinking "I don't want to wait 200 tokens for her to get naked"

For her, she's thinking "He's probably going to leave as soon as I get naked"

If she were to make an exception for him, she'd have to make the exception for everyone. While it might not seem a big deal on a day when there's 1 or 2 people in the room, if she ever does have days where there are 30 people, she's going to have issues with members getting upset at her for not giving in and leaving for the 10 token private.

 

[AmberCutie]

Making exceptions for our rules is difficult to recover from. I have a strict "no private" policy, but broke that for 2 30 second joke privates last year. It took weeks to get past people hinting at the "but you did it for them, so maybe I can get a private sometime" messages. Also when I did a true private with the admin to test features, people were a bit slow on the uptake that it was a special circumstance.

Sticking to our rules without exception is the only way to avoid hurt feelings or confusion and hassle.

 

[Anonymous]

I was a bit annoyed when one of my chatters (who hardly ever tips, and when he does it's 10 tokens once in a blue moon with a request for me to "let the bra straps hang down"...lol) made a comment about how it doesn't make sense to have a minimum for private. I would expect a guy who's never cammed a day in his life to make a statement like that. Yes, it DOES make sense to have a minimum for privates when you've had so many guys buzz you for private, and then end it abruptly 3 seconds after you've inserted your toy. Then when you return to your public chat room, you find that many or most of your chatters are GONE and have moved on to other models' rooms. As hard as we work to keep the guys IN our rooms, it's really uncool when this happens.

This is why so many models have a minimum for private, and if you take her private for a lousy 10 seconds and then leave, you will be banned. I remember when some jerk did that to me and then had the nerve to bitch about it on my profile wall. LOL. He said that I'm lucky he didn't file a complaint with MFC admin. :lol: Dude...seriously?!

Another thing that pisses me off about that is that I have to leave my room to go wash my toy after EVERY use. If you buzz me for a private show and bail only seconds after I've inserted the damn toy, I'm gonna be pretty irritated.

It's also a huge let-down when I'm not even given the chance to enjoy my toy, and you've already ended the session after typing "Mmmmm. I wish that was my dick." SMH...

Mork, I get what you're saying about accepting privates when it's dead, but my opinion remains the same. You are paying for sexual entertainment, or whatever you wish to call it. If you wish to have one-on-one naughty playtime with a model AWAY from the other guys in the room, it shouldn't be a big deal for you to put at least $20 (400 tokens) in her pocket. And even 400 tokens, by the way, is only 6 1/2 minutes of a private show.

 

[Nordling]

:twocents-02cents: Members should stop thinking they have any insight into the dynamics of being a model. No different than for a grade school dropout trying to tell a physicist about GRAVITY.

 

[Shaun__]

:twocents-02cents: Members should stop thinking they have any insight into the dynamics of being a model. No different than for a grade school dropout trying to tell a physicist about GRAVITY.

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