RIP Neil Armstrong

[Wilfy84]

Taken from BBC Website:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19381098

US astronaut Neil Armstrong, the first man on the Moon, has died aged 82.

A statement from his family says he died from complications from heart surgery he had earlier this month.

He set foot on the Moon on 20 July 1969, famously describing the event as "one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind".

He was the commander of the Apollo 11 spacecraft. More than 500 million TV viewers around the world watched its touchdown on the lunar surface.

US President Barack Obama said Amstrong was "among the greatest of American heroes - not just of his time, but of all time".

Last November he received the Congressional Gold Medal, the highest US civilian award.

 

[Bocefish]

He was and will always be a true American pioneer and hero in my book. He survived 78 Combat missions in Korea, a crazy career as a test pilot, an accident where he was testing the lunar lander where he had to eject at low altitude, not to mention his historic flight to the moon and back.

R.I.P.

 

[OPepperO]

PFFFT MOON LANDING WAS FAKE!!!


i mean..ya it totally sucks...><

 

[LadyLuna]

PFFFT MOON LANDING WAS FAKE!!!


i mean..ya it totally sucks...><

...

 

[bob]

PFFFT MOON LANDING WAS FAKE!!!


i mean..ya it totally sucks...><

but what if it's wasn't?
:whistle:

 

[camstory]

PFFFT MOON LANDING WAS FAKE!!!


i mean..ya it totally sucks...><

Don't you see this is a crazy idea. It is not crazy to believe that our government is so honest or whatever that it could not have happened. I would not for a second believe that it was not faked for any moral reasons. But as amazing as it is that we could have done it, the ability to pull off a fake would have been even more amazing. The whole world was watching, and there would have had been hundreds involved. So unless you believe that all the major technologically advanced observers were involved (to included Russia), and that everyone has keep the secret, then a fake didn't happen. And if you believe that shit, let me ask, do you want to compare meds?

 

[bob]

PFFFT MOON LANDING WAS FAKE!!!


i mean..ya it totally sucks...><

Don't you see this is a crazy idea. It is not crazy to believe that our government is so honest or whatever that it could not have happened. I would not for a second believe that it was not faked for any moral reasons. But as amazing as it is that we could have done it, the ability to pull off a fake would have been even more amazing. The whole world was watching, and there would have had been hundreds involved. So unless you believe that all the major technologically advanced observers were involved (to included Russia), and that everyone has keep the secret, then a fake didn't happen. And if you believe that shit, let me ask, do you want to compare meds?

yeah....what if it did happen? the question is always about what would be lost to consider the possibility that "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

i sure wish we knew who wrote that :lol:

 

[camstory]

PFFFT MOON LANDING WAS FAKE!!!


i mean..ya it totally sucks...><

Don't you see this is a crazy idea. It is not crazy to believe that our government is so honest or whatever that it could not have happened. I would not for a second believe that it was not faked for any moral reasons. But as amazing as it is that we could have done it, the ability to pull off a fake would have been even more amazing. The whole world was watching, and there would have had been hundreds involved. So unless you believe that all the major technologically advanced observers were involved (to included Russia), and that everyone has keep the secret, then a fake didn't happen. And if you believe that shit, let me ask, do you want to compare meds?

yeah....what if it did happen? the question is always about what would be lost to consider the possibility that "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

i sure wish we knew who wrote that :lol:

I have no problem in imaging the possibility of anything, it just seem to me that the ability to fake such a thing is and was beyond our ability. Even if i am wrong about that, i think it is reasonable to say that the effort to do so if we did possess the ability would have been greater than that to do the thing, so why? I have not yet heard the argument that has come anywhere near persuasive ether that fits within my philosophy or beyond. To me it makes no sense for too many different reasons, but i remain open to ponder.

Regardless we have veered from the threads intent i think. RIP Neil

 

[SoTxBob]

RIP Neil. Another pioneer of modern times fades away.


Having known many of the Apollo astronauts as friends and neighbors, I find certain remarks made from ignorance not even worth comment.

 

[Nordling]

PFFFT MOON LANDING WAS FAKE!!!


i mean..ya it totally sucks...><

Don't you see this is a crazy idea. It is not crazy to believe that our government is so honest or whatever that it could not have happened. I would not for a second believe that it was not faked for any moral reasons. But as amazing as it is that we could have done it, the ability to pull off a fake would have been even more amazing. The whole world was watching, and there would have had been hundreds involved. So unless you believe that all the major technologically advanced observers were involved (to included Russia), and that everyone has keep the secret, then a fake didn't happen. And if you believe that shit, let me ask, do you want to compare meds?

yeah....what if it did happen? the question is always about what would be lost to consider the possibility that "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

i sure wish we knew who wrote that :lol:

I have no problem in imaging the possibility of anything, it just seem to me that the ability to fake such a thing is and was beyond our ability. Even if i am wrong about that, i think it is reasonable to say that the effort to do so if we did possess the ability would have been greater than that to do the thing, so why? I have not yet heard the argument that has come anywhere near persuasive ether that fits within my philosophy or beyond. To me it makes no sense for too many different reasons, but i remain open to ponder.

Regardless we have veered from the threads intent i think. RIP Neil

It's actually nearly the most insane conspiracy theory ever devised. The concept is, we spent 247.634 BAZILLION dollars faking the Moon landing...in the hopes that the Soviets would believe it and bankrupt themselves trying to catch up.

Well, yeah, they believed it because there is and was NO evidence to the contrary--and they didn't bankrupt themselves trying to outdo us--they bankrupted themselves in Afghanistan and other adventures while having an economy based on wishes and fairy dust.

I am sad that Congress has all but ended NASA.

 

[OPepperO]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
I ADORE THAT MY LIL COMMENT STARTED A RUCKUS..mwaHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[GingerOwnsChris]

PFFFT MOON LANDING WAS FAKE!!!


i mean..ya it totally sucks...><

When a person believes that the world began its existence 6000 years ago, I can live with that, because it is so horrendously laughable.

But when a person sincerely believes that there is no man bold enough to construct a billion dollar tin can loaded with a few tons of explosive fuel, and that there is no man brave and stupid enough to load himself into that can to be launched at 30,000 miles per hour to the nearest rock... For those I only have two words...

 

[WickedTouch]

Neil Armstrong was not solely an American pioneering hero... he was a hero for humanity. To leave this world and walk upon another, is something that we have a hard time contemplating as a mere concept never mind a reality. To know that one of our kind has accomplished such a feat is awesome... yet somehow even describing such a feat as awesome does not even come close to understanding how big a deal it was even today.

Also remember, that to this day, more men have walked the surface of the moon than have travelled to the deepest parts of the earth's oceans... we still have a very long way to go to explore all that is around us. Thank you Neil Armstrong for taking the first and probably biggest step yet.

:handgestures-salute:

 

[Rose]

Has anyone else seen the comments about: "Rip Green Day missing it's lead singer"? Lol......One of my facebook friends shared some screen caps making fun of his other friends for posting stuff like that to their statuses. It made me chuckle.

 

[loveyougipsy]

Neil Armstrong and Uri Gagarin will be the two names that live on worldwide in the history of manned space flight.

It always amazes me how much NASA and other space agencies achieve vs their budgets. The whole Apollo mission spend over 10 years was something like $20-$24 billion. Adjusted to modern dollar value it's only something like $140 billion over 10 years.
For 2013 they only get a budget of $17 billion :shock:
http://useconomy.about.com/od/usfederalbudget/p/nasa_budget_cost.htm
Where's NASA in the 2010 budget map?

 

[Poker_Babe]

But when a person sincerely believes that there is no man bold enough to construct a billion dollar tin can loaded with a few tons of explosive fuel, and that there is no man brave and stupid enough to load himself into that can to be launched at 30,000 miles per hour to the nearest rock... For those I only have two words...

Wait, what... ummm... I can't quite tell where exactly your sarcasm is directed towards???????????

I for one have never done any research into the subject of whether or not the moon landing was real or faked. So I really can't argue on the subject. I will say that although I want to believe it was real, I never take anything the government has to say to the American People at face value.

Don't poo poo what someone believes until you've researched it yourself also.

 

[GingerOwnsChris]

Wait, what... ummm... I can't quite tell where exactly your sarcasm is directed towards???????????

I for one have never done any research into the subject of whether or not the moon landing was real or faked. So I really can't argue on the subject. I will say that although I want to believe it was real, I never take anything the government has to say to the American People at face value.

Don't poo poo what someone believes until you've researched it yourself also.

Poker,

I really don't think that Pepper is committed to the Lunar landing conspiracy theory. She probably meant her comment as a shenanigans. Obviously, no private person's search can convincingly prove or eliminate the conspiracy theory. But what little I do know about the Lunar mission comes from working in an area closely related to space technologies, reading about the history of the XX century, and a class on space flight that I took in college. From these sources I know two facts:

1) A manned mission to the Moon is very doable. If you want to deliver mass M to point A, I can derive a formula that says how much $ you have to spend on the rocket that does it. Jet propulsion is not exactly rocket science... (hmm?)

2) A manned mission to the Moon is scientifically pointless. Everything a man can do on the moon can also be done by Lunokhods and similar apparatuses. What the Apollo project has achieved is (a) we can say "Woohoo, we did it!" and (b) "Woo hoo, we did it before the Soviets!"

However, my beef with this particular conspiracy theory is that it takes away what is really valuable in this achievement: heroism. Achievements of men and women committed to doing something cool: astronauts, olympic athletes, firefighters and cancer survivors — are not just a tribute to the stubbornness of the human species. Heroes unite people. When someone lands on the moon or lands after the perfect jump on ice, people at home can say "woo hoo, we did it" or "I want to be like this" or even "I am a part of it".

And to conspire against something as great as this deserves an "f u" comment.

I do realize that almost addressing such a comment to a girl makes me deserve a black eye, but at least I am entitled to wear it with pride, as my "f u" was issued for a good cause. Sorry, Pepper, no personal harm intended.

 

[GingerOwnsChris]

P.S.: Thank you, Mr. Armstrong, for being our hero, along with other pioneers of space exploration.

 

[Red7227]

I for one have never done any research into the subject of whether or not the moon landing was real or faked. So I really can't argue on the subject. I will say that although I want to believe it was real, I never take anything the government has to say to the American People at face value.

Don't poo poo what someone believes until you've researched it yourself also.

Sweetie, the only people ignorant enough to believe it was faked are Americans. Receivers all over the world were collecting the data for NASA. It came from the moon. NASA would have had to send a vehicle to the moon to send back the imagery that was being faked. It would have been simpler to just send them to the moon than to fake it.

These days we also have pictures of the hardware left on the moon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14811336

 

[Poker_Babe]

Sweetie, the only people ignorant enough to believe it was faked are Americans.

Whaaaa????? I know it's easy to misinterpret text over the internet, it happens all the time. But am I alone here in thinking that sounds very condescending and that it also reads as an insult towards Americans or something???

Maybe I'm just reading it wrong.

 

[Lintilla]

My only reaction to this argument these days is to post this video of Buzz Aldrin punching Bart Sibrel in the face, because... it's just awesome, and anyone who still believes it was a conspiracy is delusional at this point.



Besides, everyone knows that the real conspiracy is much more complex, involving the Illuminati, complex numerology and rituals, and extraterrestrial contact. Ha! Anyone's crazy to think we weren't on the moon and beyond LONG before 1969 :roll:

 

[OPepperO]

lol ya I was being pretty sarcastic/ Although I am one of those people who finds conspiracy theory interesting...I am not quick to believe anything without ridiculous research. And even then...I'm always a skeptic. Of truth and fiction.^-^

 

[Red7227]

My only reaction to this argument these days is to post this video of Buzz Aldrin punching Bart Sibrel in the face, because... it's just awesome, and anyone who still believes it was a conspiracy is delusional at this point.

 

[Lintilla]

My only reaction to this argument these days is to post this video of Buzz Aldrin punching Bart Sibrel in the face, because... it's just awesome, and anyone who still believes it was a conspiracy is delusional at this point.

I tweeted a link to a YouTube playlist of their full Moon Hoax episode yesterday. It's also on Netflix, for anyone who wants to watch it.

Also a fan of the Bad Astronomer. He's dealt with it countless times on his website, but here is his post from the tenth anniversary of the airing of Fox's "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?"

I agree with him that "in the long reach of history, [the conspiracy theorists] will be forgotten, gnats buzzing around a monumental edifice."

 

[Poker_Babe]

Yeah I remember when that Fox show aired on TV. If Faux puts it on the air, I usually chock it up to being another decoy, "smoke screen" (if you will), BS to get our attention on that, instead of the real important cover ups and conspiracies with in our government that have taken place.

 

[Nordling]

:-D

 

[lordmagellan]

:-D

I know it's just a cartoon, but there's a flaw in the logic (unless it's pre- 2005). Deep Impact was a one fuck of an accomplishment- to name only one. Think about it: most people can't shoot a gun and hit a stationary target; they launched a probe into space and hit an object travelling at around 23,000 miles per hour.



At least, that's what they want you to believe.....

 

[Nordling]

:-D

I know it's just a cartoon, but there's a flaw in the logic (unless it's pre- 2005). Deep Impact was a one fuck of an accomplishment- to name only one. Think about it: most people can't shoot a gun and hit a stationary target; they launched a probe into space and hit an object travelling at around 23,000 miles per hour.



At least, that's what they want you to believe.....

Ha! All I can say is... Most personal guns don't include telemetry.

 

[AllisonWilder]

It seems pretty rude to derail a thread made in tribute to someone. :twocents-02cents:

I wasn't around in 1969 to watch the first person walking on the moon, but I sure would have loved to have seen it.

 

[Mork]

I agree with Allison on this.. One jaskasses smartass remark and lack of respect for the death of what many view as a true hero/space pioneer, took this all sideways and folks followed like sheep. Nice goin pepper.

RIP Mr. Armstrong.