Sex Work

[PlayboyMegan]

I'd like to think that most of us on the forums are pro-sex work. But is there any type of consensual sex work you're against? Why?

 

[PlayboyMegan]

I'm personally torn on how I feel about girls doing "porta potty" work. (When girls get paid 40g to go to a different country and get shit on and have to eat shit)
On one hand, it's consensual. On the other, it's extremely humiliating and degrading.

 

[Jupiter551]

I'm personally torn on how I feel about girls doing "porta potty" work. (When girls get paid 40g to go to a different country and get shit on and have to eat shit)
On one hand, it's consensual. On the other, it's extremely humiliating and degrading.

40g as in....forty thousand dollars? is there a market for doing this to men?

 

[PlayboyMegan]

I'm personally torn on how I feel about girls doing "porta potty" work. (When girls get paid 40g to go to a different country and get shit on and have to eat shit)
On one hand, it's consensual. On the other, it's extremely humiliating and degrading.

40g as in....forty thousand dollars? is there a market for doing this to men?

Yes, $40,000
Not that I'm aware of....
Why? You looking to make some extra cash? :lol:

 

[Jupiter551]

I'm personally torn on how I feel about girls doing "porta potty" work. (When girls get paid 40g to go to a different country and get shit on and have to eat shit)
On one hand, it's consensual. On the other, it's extremely humiliating and degrading.

40g as in....forty thousand dollars? is there a market for doing this to men?

Yes, $40,000
Not that I'm aware of....
Why? You looking to make some extra cash? :lol:

Sure, for $40k I ain't too proud

 

[Evvie]

The best I can tell, people who are against sex work are so for three reasons.

1. They are incredibly insecure ("if men can sleep with prostitutes they'll never choose me!")
2. They have a religious belief which states that having sex without love or marriage corrodes or decays the soul, or makes a god angry, or,
3. They have very antiquated ideas about what people should be "allowed" to do, and because they do not understand sex work they do not think people should be "allowed" to engage in it.

Ethically, I probably would not support sex workers engaging in fetishes which encourage psychological problems (like a stalking/kidnap/rape fantasy). However, like Stephen Fry says... you're offended, so what? Just because I do not like something does not make it bad or wrong.

Street corner hooking, posh escorting, stripping, phone sex, sugar babies, webcam sex shows, paid consensual slavery, I don't see a problem with any of it. I am not sure how a lady could be okay with camming but not with other kinds of sex work! Then again, maybe someone can educate me I actually have a great deal of respect for women who do other kinds of sex work because I understand it is very demanding.

 

[Jupiter551]

Then again, maybe someone can educate me

:downtown:

 

[PlayboyMegan]

I am not sure how a lady could be okay with camming but not with other kinds of sex work!

I assume you mean be okay with it in general, but not be okay with doing it all. For example. I am okay with doing webcamming, I am not okay with prostituting. But I am okay with prostitutes in general.

 

[mynameisbob84]

For $40k, I'd let someone do poos on me.

I don't have any problems with sex work in general. I watch porn and visit camsites, so I'd be a massive hypocrite if I did. There are risks that some sex workers take that I wish they didn't (street corner hooking strikes me as particularly dangerous for example) but what somebody chooses to do to make their money is ultimately up to them.

The only argument I can see for being against sex work that has nothing to do with insecurity, prudishness, or righteous indignation, is that so long as there's a sex trade, there will always be people (women, essentially) who are exploited and forced to do things that they wouldn't otherwise choose to. Often for very little (or nothing) in return. But there's an unfortunate underbelly to pretty much everything, ya know? The sex trade isn't unique in that regard.

 

[Evvie]

I am not sure how a lady could be okay with camming but not with other kinds of sex work!

I assume you mean be okay with it in general, but not be okay with doing it all. For example. I am okay with doing webcamming, I am not okay with prostituting. But I am okay with prostitutes in general.

Yes, that is what I meant just because a person is intellectually fine with something doesn't mean they also have to want it for themselves. That would just be silly!

 

[Evvie]

For $40k, I'd let someone do poos on me.

I don't have any problems with sex work in general. I watch porn and visit camsites, so I'd be a massive hypocrite if I did. There are risks that some sex workers take that I wish they didn't (street corner hooking strikes me as particularly dangerous for example) but what somebody chooses to do to make their money is ultimately up to them.

The only argument I can see for being against sex work that has nothing to do with insecurity, prudishness, or righteous indignation, is that so long as there's a sex trade, there will always be people (women, essentially) who are exploited and forced to do things that they wouldn't otherwise choose to. Often for very little (or nothing) in return. But there's an unfortunate underbelly to pretty much everything, ya know? The sex trade isn't unique in that regard.

I agree with you, Bob, but to me the "there is a black market for sex so consensual workers shouldn't engage in it" argument is a poor one. There are child slaves suffering abuse making tennis shoes, but nobody is arguing that therefore nobody should ever work at a factory job. Likewise, while some women will always be exploited inside the sex trade, that is true of any industry. Many sex workers argue that 12 hour minimum wage shifts at Burger King are abusive and exploitative, yet people have to take those jobs because they have no other choice.

 

[KaterinaPryde]

I have no problem with other sex work, unless it is my husband partaking. He would be soooo dead. :lol:

 

[CharlotteLace]

What an individual chooses to do with his/her life doesn't concern me, so long as it's not hurting somebody else in a non-consensual way. For that reason, I think I'd have a very big issue if I encountered a fetishist that does genuine "crush" videos of small animals. (I'm fine with people who do stuffed animals/toy cars/etc. crush videos, though).

But between consenting adults, I don't give any fucks what they do. I wish we had more laws to safeguard those who do more dangerous sex work, though. Girls on the corner are so vulnerable to be hurt or killed by angry clients, and that scares me for them.

 

[curvyredhead]

I really tried to rack my brain trying to think of a form of consensual sex work I didn't agree with.

There are some I don't think I would personally take part of---but none that I can think of that I think is wrong.

 

[mynameisbob84]

For $40k, I'd let someone do poos on me.

I don't have any problems with sex work in general. I watch porn and visit camsites, so I'd be a massive hypocrite if I did. There are risks that some sex workers take that I wish they didn't (street corner hooking strikes me as particularly dangerous for example) but what somebody chooses to do to make their money is ultimately up to them.

The only argument I can see for being against sex work that has nothing to do with insecurity, prudishness, or righteous indignation, is that so long as there's a sex trade, there will always be people (women, essentially) who are exploited and forced to do things that they wouldn't otherwise choose to. Often for very little (or nothing) in return. But there's an unfortunate underbelly to pretty much everything, ya know? The sex trade isn't unique in that regard.

I agree with you, Bob, but to me the "there is a black market for sex so consensual workers shouldn't engage in it" argument is a poor one. There are child slaves suffering abuse making tennis shoes, but nobody is arguing that therefore nobody should ever work at a factory job. Likewise, while some women will always be exploited inside the sex trade, that is true of any industry. Many sex workers argue that 12 hour minimum wage shifts at Burger King are abusive and exploitative, yet people have to take those jobs because they have no other choice.

Agreed. It's more of an unfortunate and practically unavoidable aspect of life than it is a reason for the sex trade to be abolished.

 

[Crumb]

I'd like to think that most of us on the forums are pro-sex work. But is there any type of consensual sex work you're against? Why?

Can't think of any type of sex work that I'm against... considering I watch porn, watch camgirls, and have paid a visit to a Nevada brothel.
if the consenting people are aware of the risks involved, then I have no issues

 

[Albert_1]

I'd like to think that most of us on the forums are pro-sex work. But is there any type of consensual sex work you're against? Why?

Nope as long as it's consenting adults then have at it hoss. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Gen]

I can't think of any forms of sex work I'm opposed to, either. Again, if people are consenting to it, I hope they have fun and make lots of money and are happy about it. The same things I'd hope for any job.

For what it's worth, I used to work at an outreach program for sex workers (well, really for prostitutes), and there were a lot of women involved in the industry (particularly the lower end) who advocated for abolition. It's a bit different (in my opinion) to compare things like camming to escorting/prostitution, but I have heard a lot of arguments against legalization that have made sense to me, even if I don't agree with them.

It's been a big discussion here, particularly at that job and within the industry, because the prostitution laws are being debated by our Supreme Court. It's quite interesting as whether prostitution is legal or not has been a matter of controversy in itself, but they're now looking at the possibility of decriminalizing or possibly legalizing it. (Really, the surrounding laws about running a bawdy house, or brothel, solicitation and living off the avails.)

Anyways my point being that a lot of the women I worked with (I never worked with any male sex workers at that job) were quite outspoken that they thought sex work should stay illegal, that legalizing it would only make it easier for workers to be exploited and make it harder for workers to exit the industry. It was hard for me to compare, though, because all of my sex industry experience has been in much safer environments and most sex workers I've worked with have been doing it completely by choice.

Personally I don't agree with those views and I think that decriminalization would do more good than harm, but it seemed relevant to add in that not all anti-sex work views come from outsiders or from moral policing.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

I don't think I'm against any sex work but I am against it being pushed as a long term career. Closes way more doors than it opens and for the majority it will hold them back from pursuing non sex work related interests. I can't believe people are willing to be shit on for 40 grand. 40 grand goes quick but the shame of being a human toilet has to stay with you forever.

 

[AllisonWilder]

I don't think I'm against any sex work but I am against it being pushed as a long term career. Closes way more doors than it opens and for the majority it will hold them back from pursuing non sex work related interests. I can't believe people are willing to be shit on for 40 grand. 40 grand goes quick but the shame of being a human toilet has to stay with you forever.

Judging from the sheer volume of men that pop into my chat and ask me to poop for them (I don't, just to clarify), I'd venture a guess that some people just don't find it all that shameful to be a human toilet.


Edit to answer the OP!

I don't have a problem with any form of consensual sex work, but personally I'm only comfortable with being virtual. I couldn't be an escort/prostitute/stripper/etc., not because it's wrong, but because it's wrong for me.

 

[Sevrin]

I would like to see it treated as a regular thing that people do, and its practitioners provided the same protections as people engaged in every other type of work enjoy. I think that would go a long way with people feeling more comfortable with knowing that their loved ones are engaged in it.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

The best I can tell, people who are against sex work are so for three reasons.

1. They are incredibly insecure ("if men can sleep with prostitutes they'll never choose me!")
2. They have a religious belief which states that having sex without love or marriage corrodes or decays the soul, or makes a god angry, or,
3. They have very antiquated ideas about what people should be "allowed" to do, and because they do not understand sex work they do not think people should be "allowed" to engage in it.

Ethically, I probably would not support sex workers engaging in fetishes which encourage psychological problems (like a stalking/kidnap/rape fantasy). However, like Stephen Fry says... you're offended, so what? Just because I do not like something does not make it bad or wrong.

Street corner hooking, posh escorting, stripping, phone sex, sugar babies, webcam sex shows, paid consensual slavery, I don't see a problem with any of it. I am not sure how a lady could be okay with camming but not with other kinds of sex work! Then again, maybe someone can educate me I actually have a great deal of respect for women who do other kinds of sex work because I understand it is very demanding.

Eevie - theres another type of person who is antisexwork.
Sadly they are calling themselves feminists.
I once had a raging argument on a plane with a woman who was anti sex work because it 'degrades' women etc etc. She had lots of stories about how CUM SHOTS to the FACE degrade women etc etc and how all porn girls are on drugs and basically saw herself as a white-knight saving the day!

Of course, she's never done drugs, sex work, or anything similar.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

as for what type of sex work I am against:

If its not Safe Sane and Consensual, im against it.

 

[AllisonWilder]

The best I can tell, people who are against sex work are so for three reasons.

1. They are incredibly insecure ("if men can sleep with prostitutes they'll never choose me!")
2. They have a religious belief which states that having sex without love or marriage corrodes or decays the soul, or makes a god angry, or,
3. They have very antiquated ideas about what people should be "allowed" to do, and because they do not understand sex work they do not think people should be "allowed" to engage in it.

Ethically, I probably would not support sex workers engaging in fetishes which encourage psychological problems (like a stalking/kidnap/rape fantasy). However, like Stephen Fry says... you're offended, so what? Just because I do not like something does not make it bad or wrong.

Street corner hooking, posh escorting, stripping, phone sex, sugar babies, webcam sex shows, paid consensual slavery, I don't see a problem with any of it. I am not sure how a lady could be okay with camming but not with other kinds of sex work! Then again, maybe someone can educate me I actually have a great deal of respect for women who do other kinds of sex work because I understand it is very demanding.

Eevie - theres another type of person who is antisexwork.
Sadly they are calling themselves feminists.
I once had a raging argument on a plane with a woman who was anti sex work because it 'degrades' women etc etc. She had lots of stories about how CUM SHOTS to the FACE degrade women etc etc and how all porn girls are on drugs and basically saw herself as a white-knight saving the day!

Of course, she's never done drugs, sex work, or anything similar.

I will never understand how being sexually free and generally satisfied with life is 'degrading'.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Judging from the sheer volume of men that pop into my chat and ask me to poop for them .

Hate when dudes ask that. Nothing kills a good tease like some guy asking for a poo show.

 

[Shaun__]

I have things I do not want to do, but I do not try to make other people stop doing them. I do not see how it is any of my business.

 

[Jessi]

The best I can tell, people who are against sex work are so for three reasons.

1. They are incredibly insecure ("if men can sleep with prostitutes they'll never choose me!")
2. They have a religious belief which states that having sex without love or marriage corrodes or decays the soul, or makes a god angry, or,
3. They have very antiquated ideas about what people should be "allowed" to do, and because they do not understand sex work they do not think people should be "allowed" to engage in it.

Ethically, I probably would not support sex workers engaging in fetishes which encourage psychological problems (like a stalking/kidnap/rape fantasy). However, like Stephen Fry says... you're offended, so what? Just because I do not like something does not make it bad or wrong.

Street corner hooking, posh escorting, stripping, phone sex, sugar babies, webcam sex shows, paid consensual slavery, I don't see a problem with any of it. I am not sure how a lady could be okay with camming but not with other kinds of sex work! Then again, maybe someone can educate me I actually have a great deal of respect for women who do other kinds of sex work because I understand it is very demanding.

Eevie - theres another type of person who is antisexwork.
Sadly they are calling themselves feminists.
I once had a raging argument on a plane with a woman who was anti sex work because it 'degrades' women etc etc. She had lots of stories about how CUM SHOTS to the FACE degrade women etc etc and how all porn girls are on drugs and basically saw herself as a white-knight saving the day!

Of course, she's never done drugs, sex work, or anything similar.

That lady sounds like a shit feminist to me. Last I checked, it was supposed to be about enabling everyone to have options for themselves regardless of gender, not judging them for the choices they make.


I can't say Im against any kind of sex work. I mean, I think getting shit on is disgusting and would never do that, but I also found working in back of a restaurant pretty disgusting and wouldn't do it again. And some people like poo I guess, Im not going to tell them not to go for it :?

 

[Reina Lynn]

I've gone back and forth on this. There have been some times in my life when I had some issues with the adult industry, and others when I was very grateful for and enjoyed the sex industry. Now is one of those latter times, by the way. :-D I don't know that there's an easy answer.

I've worked in a lot of different areas of the sex industry. Being on camera is sort of "the last frontier". Like any other job, jobs in the sex industry each have their pros and cons.

I don't have a problem with consensual sex work by itself. I have a problem with the way many aspects of the sex industry are run and the way many of the women in it are treated. (I say "women" because a large majority of sex workers are women, not to discount male sex workers.)

I will also say the industry has changed a lot over the past 20 years, and women generally have more rights, a better voice, and are treated more humanely than in the past.

$40,000 to get shit on? Umm, maybe. To eat it? There aren't enough zeroes, but each to his or her own. :whistle:

 

[Jupiter551]

I have no problem with other sex work, unless it is my husband partaking. He would be soooo dead. :lol:

:lol:

As to the whole 'shame of human toilet thing', well shame is in the eye of the umm...toilet.

I readily agree it's gross, $40,000 is a lot of money. Some people need it more than others. Some people, and I think I'm one of them, would just live through the grossness, keep my own counsel, laugh all the way to the bank and smoke the most knockout memory repressing bowl of stank straight up pungent indica I could get my hands on :-D

 

[BlueViolet]

Sadly they are calling themselves feminists.

That lady sounds like a shit feminist to me. Last I checked, it was supposed to be about enabling everyone to have options for themselves regardless of gender, not judging them for the choices they make.

It pisses me off that those women really have the audacity to call themselves feminists, when they clearly are not. At all. Or even close to being a feminist.

It gives real feminists a bad name. It makes me mad that most people don't take feminists seriously because of how certain people who call themselves feminists behave.