stalking

[dilligaf0]

Recieving unsolicited e-mail from some other cam girl while I'm in a model's room enjoying the show. If I really was interested in watching you, I'd be in your room watching you. By stalking me, all you've accomplished is insuring I'll never tip you one single token.....ever.

 

[Kickaz]

Very good point. The only way I can explain this is that a very small part in their head says "you are perving on a new girl now because you are not aware "the stalker" model is online"

 

[BullFrogBlues]

I just click on ignore and block, never to see the stalker model ever again, oh and I let them know it.

 

[Zoomer]

Stalker? I think that's a bit of a stretch.

Much like spam / junk mail. She looks in others rooms for potentials to spend on her, sends mail, moves on. Fairly indiscriminate.

If 1 in 5 check her out, and 1 in 5 then go on to tip her - she profits. Chances are you wouldn't have noticed her anyway, so nothing lost

 

[Anonymous]

Recieving unsolicited e-mail from some other cam girl while I'm in a model's room enjoying the show. If I really was interested in watching you, I'd be in your room watching you. By stalking me, all you've accomplished is insuring I'll never tip you one single token.....ever.

Exactly. I can imagine how annoying that must be (e-mails or PMs).

And I think when members get lots of annoying PM's from models like that, they should consider setting their PMs to friends list only.

 

[Shaun__]

It was so annoying, before I set my PMs to friends only.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

What about when models you've already tipped/talk to send you a pm saying hello/asking how you are? I do this a LOT! It's not spam, I do it while I'm offline just to be friendly, if I'm online sometimes I'll test a bit to see if they might be interested in tipping/buying vids, it's a bit cheeky, but I wouldn't call it spam, plus, it often works! I don't really think at the time if they were enjoying another models room.

I sometimes wonder if a member is there perving on another model and then chatty me starts talking to them and it's more of an annoyance/they might think i'm watching/stalking them.

I actually very very rarely pm someone on my friendslist when I see them in another girls room. Sometimes I do, but I always feel really guilty about it, like I'm stealing them! Then again, I also feel kind of guilty that I can see what they tip/write and they don't know I'm there...

I have heard there are a few girls who really do spam people when they see them in other girls rooms, asking if they want vids etc/getting aggressive/banning them if they don't answer. That must be really annoying!
Hate it when members have pms set to friendslist only though! Makes it harder to pm vids or a thank you and if I add them onto my friendslist it means I can't pm them to say hello . I can understand why it's a good idea though if you're getting lots of spam!

What I LOVE doing is seeing someone I'm friends with in another models room while I'm on my basic account/chatting to them at the same time on my model account, and just send dirty messages to them so it seems like I'm some dirty guy. Not sure why, but it rarely fails to entertain me! Haven't done it many times though lol

 

[CallMeWilliam]

It was so annoying, before I set my PMs to friends only.

^^^ This...

Sorry but personally I have no sympathy for the OP or any member who complains about stuff like this and allows anyone to PM them, just like people who complain about Facebook privacy and have their settings set to "Everyone" or "Friends of Friends".

:twocents-02cents:

 

[IsabellaSnow]

It was so annoying, before I set my PMs to friends only.

^^^ This...

Sorry but personally I have no sympathy for the OP or any member who complains about stuff like this and allows anyone to PM them, just like people who complain about Facebook privacy and have their settings set to "Everyone" or "Friends of Friends".

:twocents-02cents:

Yes, this! lol

I think members need to sometimes accept that you're not the only ones who are allowed to stalk/lurk/be needy on mfc! Members will get upset that their favourite model isn't online when she said she'd be/normally is, models will get upset that their favourite member isn't in their room/spending their time/tokens on them. As on mfc it is very easy to catch people out (especially if you let the model know who you watch), you should be aware that people could stalk you! Like models should remember their regular could be watching as a guest! For example, a lot of members who visit me tend to only visit uk models, so all I have to do is go onto a guest account and flick through the uk rooms and i'm sure I'll see members I recognise.
Doing it now, second room I look into is Fluffs, and there's a member I recognise who hangs out a lot (non tipper), next few rooms I can see at least one person who I recognise in each, it's not even the sort of time I ever come online. Come evening when I'd usually be coming online, there will be many who I recognise in the rooms, meaning I could deliberately stalk (which I don't do because it would turn me mad) or I could just be checking out the other girls and catch what's going on, so when that member who comes into my room later says they have no tokens/are broke, I have already seen them drop 400+ tokens in another girls room "just because".

 

[Kradek]

It was so annoying, before I set my PMs to friends only.

^^^ This...

Sorry but personally I have no sympathy for the OP or any member who complains about stuff like this and allows anyone to PM them, just like people who complain about Facebook privacy and have their settings set to "Everyone" or "Friends of Friends".

:twocents-02cents:

OP specifically said mail. I assumed someone MFC Emailed. I think you can receive MFC mail from anyone, but I wouldn't swear to it.

 

[Shaun__]

It was so annoying, before I set my PMs to friends only.

^^^ This...

Sorry but personally I have no sympathy for the OP or any member who complains about stuff like this and allows anyone to PM them, just like people who complain about Facebook privacy and have their settings set to "Everyone" or "Friends of Friends".

:twocents-02cents:

OP specifically said mail. I assumed someone MFC Emailed. I think you can receive MFC mail from anyone, but I wouldn't swear to it.

You do, but if you put the person on your ignore list they can never mail you again.

 

[Mirra]

It was so annoying, before I set my PMs to friends only.

^^^ This...

Sorry but personally I have no sympathy for the OP or any member who complains about stuff like this and allows anyone to PM them, just like people who complain about Facebook privacy and have their settings set to "Everyone" or "Friends of Friends".

:twocents-02cents:

If this post is in reponse to the model I asked dilli about last night, she was actually sending MFC mails as Kradek suspected and she was targeting specifically people who were tipping AmberCutie. In other words, she was looking to steal people with a good chance of having tokens from another model. I received one as well and noticed it was sent around the time of my tips. dilli had also recently tipped her so I asked him about it and he confirmed he too had received one. Several other people then noted they had also received MFC mails from her shortly after tipping and at least one person mentioned it happening on a previous evening. This is not an okay behavior in my opinion. Adding them to ignore so you never see them again is a good thing for eliminating my personal annoyance, but trying to steal another model's tippers is an extremely rude thing to do to another model.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Yup, that's ridiculous, it amazes me that models even do this! There's a uk girl with a camscore of about 8k who goes into another popular uk models room (with a lower camscore) and does this. But she's really rude about it. A member sent me all the unanswered pms/mfc mail she sent them, apparently she does it all the time, I don't get it though! Does it actually work?!

 

[Mirra]

I imagine it accomplishes nothing more than pissing off someone who is a regular/friend of the model. And while the regulars and friends of models are extremely important tippers and often carry the room for shows and such, they are a finite source of tokens. It's the transient premiums and newer visitors who are most prone to being swayed by these mails and THOSE are the model's best chance of growing her potential. It's like with any type of sales. Your return customers are your base. Keeping them is important and you definitely have to put some effort into maintaining those relationships, but much more effort goes into attracting new customers with the initial payoff rarely being worth the extra effort but when you are able to turn that first time customer into a repeat customer, growth happens. The short term effects of a campaign to steal customers may be minimal but you can only speculate on the long term.

 

[Zoomer]

Sent around the time of your tips? there's a 4.5 day difference... or am I missing something?

 

[Mirra]

You're missing the fact that the other mails are from offline tips. Amber was online during the tips in question so there were no MFC mails associated with them. No to mention that both of the other mails you see there are actually the time of Amber's REPLIES to the offline tip mails and are actually both regarding the same tip. The tip came before either of those mails.

 

[Zoomer]

ah, makes more sense! Just looking at the picture I was left going "erm, what?" - cheers.

 

[dilligaf0]

You're exactly right about the incident I'm referring to. I do check other models, but I'm picky. I don't want to watch a model watch t.v., talk on her phone, or stare at the camara (not saying a word) whike typing. If she's friendly and makes her room fun, I pay attention, and tip, regardless of the fact of her "doing a show" or not. I just don't want to be harassed by a sub-par model because she can't attract members on her own. And my settings are "friends only.

It was so annoying, before I set my PMs to friends only.

^^^ This...

Sorry but personally I have no sympathy for the OP or any member who complains about stuff like this and allows anyone to PM them, just like people who complain about Facebook privacy and have their settings set to "Everyone" or "Friends of Friends".

:twocents-02cents:

OP specifically said mail. I assumed someone MFC Emailed. I think you can receive MFC mail from anyone, but I wouldn't swear to it.

You do, but if you put the person on your ignore list they can never mail you again.

 

[LadyLuna]

See, I was gonna say I only send mails to regulars if I want to let them know about a special they might be interested in.

Like a guy who likes feet I might send a mail to if I have a new foot vid for sale.

 

[Anonymous]

Yup, that's ridiculous, it amazes me that models even do this! There's a uk girl with a camscore of about 8k who goes into another popular uk models room (with a lower camscore) and does this. But she's really rude about it. A member sent me all the unanswered pms/mfc mail she sent them, apparently she does it all the time, I don't get it though! Does it actually work?!

A while back a model came into my room (under a premium account, I think) and told guys in my room that I'm too "fugly," and to visit her room instead. She also posted her Skype name so she could give everyone a FREE Skype show. :lol: Desperate much? She also loved posting that middle finger emote.

Fuck me? Nah, fuck YOU, Miss Thang. I'm not the one offering to shove fruit up my pussy for 10 tokens...lol.

 

[AmberCutie]

Tacky. Tacky tacky tacky.

I sent a tweet out this morning with the girl's profile in it, too. Not like it'll help anything, or that this girl is actually successful in her attempt to lure big tippers away from a girl they're already watching.

Sending a PM to a person on your friend list who you already talk to frequently isn't the same thing as sending unsolicited MFC mails to a complete stranger for no reason other than the fact you see him tipping big amounts to another girl. I PM my friends in my friend list whenever I feel like it. Whether I'm off cam and just want to say "hay" or if I'm just about to get on cam and want to send a note before I get too busy in my chat room.

 

[Shaun__]

See, I was gonna say I only send mails to regulars if I want to let them know about a special they might be interested in.

Like a guy who likes feet I might send a mail to if I have a new foot vid for sale.

That is just good business. People who already visit you probably like getting them from you.

 

[camstory]

Stalker? I think that's a bit of a stretch.

Much like spam / junk mail. She looks in others rooms for potentials to spend on her, sends mail, moves on. Fairly indiscriminate.

If 1 in 5 check her out, and 1 in 5 then go on to tip her - she profits. Chances are you wouldn't have noticed her anyway, so nothing lost

Yes, so it makes good business sense, but it is exactly this attitude of, 'you can't blame em for doing what makes sense', that has allowed corporate America to become so grotesque. It might seem like a reach to go from Cam Model to GE, but when something is wrong with the way one does business, than it should not be tolerated. And when something is allowable because there is no rule against it, it does not mean that, that thing is absolute from being wrong in ethics. If it is ethically wrong, and will not or can not correct itself then corrective actions or regulations should be swift, nonporous, and, encompassing. In the case of the Cam Model the Ignore/hide button, in the case of big business in the US,,, well we have long since past that point and lost that battle, and now wonder why Exxon, GE, Citygroup, etc, dictate our political/governmental powers so completely that only the blindest of sheep might still reasonably refer to it as a democracy. I do not wonder, - It is because there was a time to say, 'No, that is wrong, that is wrong, and it does harm to what is ethically correct', and that time was wasted, and pushed past in the attitude that 1 in 5 times it works, so... In the attitude, that there is no wrong in doing what makes good business sense, so nothing lost. I have taken this thread off course, out of the arena and far afield, of this I am aware. I have very little problem with random spam/stalker Models, and understand it is a backwards number's game they play to do what they can to bring in yellow nickels. In my defense I would only say that my excursion was driven by the belief that the greater attitudes of dome are built with the many small stones quarried from the masses, and we should not forgive the unethical actions of a Cam Model and at the same time except our large corporate entities to behave ethically. Or that's how this old man sees it anyway.

PS, as goes the OP, sorry for the thread jack. Brass Tacks, DSTSS...

 

[Zoomer]

I wasn't saying it's okay, or disagreeing with the opinion that what they're doing is bad/frowned upon as rude - I'm just pointing out that (to the OP) it is a zero loss situation from the girls perspective. If she messages and gets any tips she is up. The people she's messaging may block her and never see her, but the chances are they'd never have noticed her anyway - hence why nothing is lost.

It's the only reason I posted. It's bad, but from her perspective, there's no real loss in trying.

 

[camstory]

I wasn't saying it's okay, or disagreeing with the opinion that what they're doing is bad/frowned upon as rude - I'm just pointing out that (to the OP) it is a zero loss situation from the girls perspective. If she messages and gets any tips she is up. The people she's messaging may block her and never see her, but the chances are they'd never have noticed her anyway - hence why nothing is lost.

It's the only reason I posted. It's bad, but from her perspective, there's no real loss in trying.

I understand Zoomer, My bad for Quoting you, and using it as a spring board to express what might have been better posted in the pet peeves thread. As my last line sorta contradicts my post,(don't sweat the small shit) I really am not too bothered by this. It happens and is annoying, but I understand it, very much as you do, and for that reason don't let it really bug me.

I have to remind myself though, To keep in mind that my acceptances of these little slights, are because I understand where, (in this case the Model), the person is coming from, and that it is not such a great injury to me. At the same time I remind myself that this wrong is no less an assault to what is ethically correct than any other ethical misdeed. I guess my point was, that though this behavior was tiny in scope, it still is an unethical practice, and we need to keep that in mind. There was really nothing in your post to dispute that, but caused me to be reminded that this, "small shit" at the end of the day, still stinks.

 

[dilligaf0]

Upon reflection, maybe "stalking" is too harsh. A more accurate description would probably be "cam-whore telemarketing", or "CWT" for short.

 

[Keithy]

Upon reflection, maybe "stalking" is too harsh. A more accurate description would probably be "cam-whore telemarketing", or "CWT" for short.

Every time I go on MFC I get a hello from the same model. Not even one I know. Like... if any of the girls I knew from here or there messaged me, I wouldn't care. But I really have no clue who this model is.

 

[dilligaf0]

But is she saying "hi" and begging for tokens? That'

Upon reflection, maybe "stalking" is too harsh. A more accurate description would probably be "cam-whore telemarketing", or "CWT" for short.

Every time I go on MFC I get a hello from the same model. Not even one I know. Like... if any of the girls I knew from here or there messaged me, I wouldn't care. But I really have no clue who this model is.

s my point.

 

[Zoomer]

Every time I go on MFC I get a hello from the same model. Not even one I know. Like... if any of the girls I knew from here or there messaged me, I wouldn't care mind. But I really have no clue who this model is.

I swear I am not being picky or pedantic... just doing this as I got confused for a second and thought it'd reflect better

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

On my list of top 1000 pet peeves getting mfc mails or pm from pretty models does not make the list. It only takes a a second to read "hi bb hru?". Most of the time I ignore them some time I check out their room or profile. Now the tipper stalking that is described is awfully sleazy behavior. But I am not sure it is against MFC's rules.